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5200. Nicholas T. Spellman, MD  Thus Spake David E
5201. Ann & Ed Thompson         Re: antifreeze leak
5202. LovDMC12@aol.com          Re: Another Funny Story
5203. David Sontos              Re: antifreeze leak
5204. Mark Noeltner             Re: CarFax VIN History
5205. Mark Noeltner             Re: antifreeze leak
5206. sean333@email.com         Re: Want your VIN rerport run free 2?
5207. Iznodmad@aol.com          Re: antifreeze leak
5208. Kelvin                    Re: Another Funny Story
5209. mike@mrcopies.com         Clock Schematic - crystal question
5210. VIPERTV@aol.com           JZD Background info...
5211. DMC Joe                   Re: antifreeze leak
5212. DMCCHRIS@aol.com          Re: Automatic opening gullwing doors
5213. DMC Joe                   Re: Air filter on the DMC-12
5214. Sean Jones                Re: Clock Schematic - crystal question
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 15:37:31 -0500
From: "Nicholas T. Spellman, MD" <spellman@massmed.org>
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Thus Spake David E.:
The (DeLorean) car itself was a discarded Guigiaro protoype that sounded and
behaved like a late-model Chevroloet Corvair.  Obsolete before they ever
turned a wheel, the cars were junk, the organization was a joke, and
somebody got way with most of the inattentive British government's
investment...  Automobile Magazine, January 2000, p.44.  The OUTRAGE!!!
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 16:16:31 -0500
From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat@erols.com>
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>  I started up the Delorean today to get the gas moving.  When I turned
>  it off I noticed that it was leaking antifreeze!!  I started it back up
>  to see where it was coming from.  If you took the back fascia off and
>  looked at the engine that way, it would be coming from the center,
>  behind all those belts.  
Sounds like the water pump to me!
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:36:26 EST
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Josh,
I hate to burst your bubble, but the tow truck with the DeLorean on the back 
is a stock photo used in ads.  My local Yellow Pages, Orangeburg, SC, has had 
this ad, minus the "Towing for Jesus" part, for several years.  It has been 
used by this particular local tow company for quite sometime.  In fact, I 
submitted a copy of it to "DeLorean World" over a year ago, and they printed 
it.  I'm curious as to how many other Yellow Pages have this same ad used by 
a local tow service.
Brian  
VIN 1597
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From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net>
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Dear friend,
You are looking at a leaking waterpump. Unless you are a competent mechanic,
I would suggest you order the waterpump and intake manifold gasket set from
one of the DeLorean suppliers and get a local garage to change it.
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
Erik Geerdink wrote:
> I started up the Delorean today to get the gas moving.  When I turned
> it off I noticed that it was leaking antifreeze!!  I started it back up
> to see where it was coming from.  If you took the back fascia off and
> looked at the engine that way, it would be coming from the center,
> behind all those belts.

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:40:53 -0800
From: "Mark Noeltner" <mnoeltne@ezl.com>
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And it doesn't necessarily show all of those. Only the ones that a
given state has chosen to put in the database that CarFax uses. My car
only showed the title transfer to me, but did not show the original
owner back in 1982 even though I actually saw the title and know that
he had one.
Mark N
VIN 6820
njp54-@aol.com wrote: 
<snip>
>    CarFax.com only has a listing of cars that were ever registered
for 
> driving, I highly doubt someone actually registered their gold
delorean for 
> purposes to drive it.  But just like the NY Lotto guy says..."Hey, Ya
never 
> know"  
> 
> Later,
> Nick
> VIN#1852

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:43:20 -0800
From: "Mark Noeltner" <mnoeltne@ezl.com>
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You need to look a little closer to actually tell. Remember that the
leak will always be above where you see the antifreeze.
If the leak seems to be coming from behind the pulley in the center,
then it probably is a bad water pump, not a hose.
Mark N
VIN 6820
"erik geerdink" <delorean50-@excite.com> wrote: 
> I started up the Delorean today to get the gas moving.  When I turned
> it off I noticed that it was leaking antifreeze!!  I started it back
up
> to see where it was coming from.  If you took the back fascia off and
> looked at the engine that way, it would be coming from the center,
> behind all those belts.  Anybody know what I'm talking about?  Is
there
> an antifreeze hose there that maybe didn't like the cold and decided
to
> break?  help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Erik Geerdink
> 4512......clean title! Thanks Devin Mitchell!!
> 

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From: sean333@email.com
References: <199912051845.NAA23607@smv02-mc.iname.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:39:15 -0500
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Someone with a little programming experience could write a script that would
automatically try every VIN and record which are and aren't found.  I may
try to do this now that you got me thinking.   If I get any interesting
results I'll post them.
-sean
vin #3868
> You know, I think the best use for this CARFAX service would be to
complete
> the DMC production chronology.  I'm not suggesting that someone should
plug
> in ALL of the possible VINs, just the unknown ones that appear to be in
> gaps.  If the car has ever been registered, it should show up in the
> database and can be added to the chronology.
>
> There's over 1000 people on the list, right?  Everybody gets 10 VINs to
look
> up.  :-)


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From: Iznodmad@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:56:11 EST
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If you are saying there is a leak from the center of the engine (e.g. under 
the intake), then you are referring to the 4 coolant hoses buried under the 
intake.  The only way to get to them is to remove the intake.  This was done 
to my car a month or two ago.  I too had a weeping coming from that area.  
Inspection revealed original coolant hoses with original clamps, along with a 
socket for spark plugs and organic matter that used to be leaves.  Since 
replacement of those 4 hidden hoses, the coolant system has no leaks.  Good 
luck.
Regards,
Darren Decker
#5000
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 99 19:54:39 -0500
From: Kelvin <mason_k@wvwc.edu>
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>I hate to burst your bubble, but the tow truck with the DeLorean on the back 
>is a stock photo used in ads.  My local Yellow Pages, Orangeburg, SC, has 
>had 
>this ad, minus the "Towing for Jesus" part, for several years.  It has been 
>used by this particular local tow company for quite sometime.  In fact, I 
>submitted a copy of it to "DeLorean World" over a year ago, and they printed 
>it.  I'm curious as to how many other Yellow Pages have this same ad used by 
>a local tow service.
Doesn't anyone find it annoying that the Delorean is being used as "the 
quintessential vehicle in need of a towing service"? I think I would find 
it a bit insulting.
Kelvin



__________________________
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From: "mike@mrcopies.com" <mrcopies@jet2.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:11:38 -0600
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Subject: [DML] Clock Schematic - crystal question
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Hi Gang!
I had great success repairing my lock module (put in heavy duty relays etc.=
.) but the service depot I used (family) were hesistant to touch it without=
 a schematic.  Once I gave it to them they did a FANTASTIC repair job...the=
 unit looked better than factory new. =
My 1983 Delorean didn't have a dash clock but I recently purchased a clock =
and panel out of a wreck and it's in super shape except the clock's not wor=
king properly.  Has anyone had any luck repairing their clock?  Mark Hershe=
y was kind enough to point me in the right direction but I was wondering if=
 anyone else has replaced their clock crystal.  A schematic for the clock w=
ould be a real bonus...saves all those long faces at the service counter wh=
en you walk in for a repair. :)
Thanks
mike@mrcopies.com

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi Gang!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I had great success repairing my lock m=
odule =
(put in heavy duty relays etc..) but the service depot I used (family) were=
 =
hesistant to touch it without a schematic.&nbsp; Once I gave it to them the=
y did =
a FANTASTIC repair job...the unit looked better than factory =
new.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>My 1983 Delorean didn't have a dash clock but I recently purchased a c=
lock =
and panel out of a wreck and it's in super shape except the clock's not wor=
king =
properly.&nbsp; Has anyone had any luck repairing their clock?&nbsp; Mark =
Hershey was kind enough to point me in the right direction but I was wonder=
ing =
if anyone else has replaced their clock crystal.&nbsp; A schematic for the =
clock =
would be a real bonus...saves all those long faces at the service counter w=
hen =
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
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From: VIPERTV@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:29:07 EST
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Dear List:
     In Journalism class, we have to choose a person, and find information 
about that person's background.  What they did that was famous, how they did 
it, and various other things.  I chose to do John Z. DeLorean.  I was curious 
if anyone can point me out to a website, or send me an email, about JZD and 
his accomplishments.  I need to have 5 paragraphs about JZD, and make some 
interviewing questions. (Please note that I do not have to ask the man 
himself, but just make up questions and turn them into the teacher.)  Any 
help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks for your time.
**Happy Holidays!**
Steven Lawrence
~vipertv@aol.com
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:35:31 -0500
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Erik,
The leak is either coming from the water pump shaft seal or one of the
coolant hoses behind the water pump. The best and easiest way to find any
coolant leak is by conducting a "cooling system pressure test". If you
don't own your own pressure tester than bring your D to a reliable repair
facility and ask them to test your system.
Happy Holiday's
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Erik Geerdink <delorean502@excite.com>
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] antifreeze leak
> Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 2:58 PM
> 
> I started up the Delorean today to get the gas moving.  When I turned
> it off I noticed that it was leaking antifreeze!!  I started it back up
> to see where it was coming from.  If you took the back fascia off and
> looked at the engine that way, it would be coming from the center,
> behind all those belts.  Anybody know what I'm talking about?  Is there
> an antifreeze hose there that maybe didn't like the cold and decided to
> break?  help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Erik Geerdink
> 4512......clean title! Thanks Devin Mitchell!!
> 
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hello all,
back about a year ago, while i was searching the web, i found i site that 
sold door locks. And they did have a make for the delorean which also opened 
the doors by remote. The remote could also start the engine, and lock and 
unlock w/ out opening the doors. Problem is, i dont know what that site is 
anymore. Does anyone know what im talking about? I will try to find it in the 
mean time.
chris 
vin: not yet
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:03:05 -0500
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From: DMC Joe <DMCJOE@att.net>
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Subject: Re: [DML] Air filter on the DMC-12
Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 4:16 PM
Here is something to think about. The horsepower difference between running
the car with an OEM filter and no filter at all is less than 2 hp. So
unless the K&N filter does some kind of magic trick with the air as it
passes through the filter I would have serious doubts about any substantial
increase in horsepower.
Happy Holiday's
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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From: Christopher Hawes <cmhdevelopment@hotmail.com>
 
I purchased a K&N 57i air induction filter kit for my Opel Manta and I
will DEFINATELY be purchasing one for my DMC (When I buy one). The K&N
never has to be replaced!!!!
 
It also helps the engine to breath more easily and on my Manta I could
hear the distinctive 'induction' sucking noise.  It sounded great and with
the
 
Big Bore exhaust on the back and noticed an increase in acceleration.  Of
course with the exhaust too the whole engine sucks and breathes out at
the other end more efficiently.....
 
On the DMC the induction noise will be probably hardly heard but I think
it is worth fitting.  Just think how much you spend on a new air-filter
every time you service your Delorean!!!!!  I never had the car tested to
find the exact horse power increase.  I think 
26 is a little unrealistic!!!!
 
 Just my 2 pence worth!!!
 
Chris

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From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com>
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Hello,
As being a electronic buff i could do a crystal replacement in a  couple
of seconds as long as that if the only problem.  I've never seen a
DeLorean clock but if it's a small little clock why not just get a new
one?
- Shain
"mike@mrcopies.com" wrote:
>  Hi Gang! I had great success repairing my lock module (put in heavy
> duty relays etc..) but the service depot I used (family) were
> hesistant to touch it without a schematic.  Once I gave it to them
> they did a FANTASTIC repair job...the unit looked better than factory
> new. My 1983 Delorean didn't have a dash clock but I recently
> purchased a clock and panel out of a wreck and it's in super shape
> except the clock's not working properly.  Has anyone had any luck
> repairing their clock?  Mark Hershey was kind enough to point me in
> the right direction but I was wondering if anyone else has replaced
> their clock crystal.  A schematic for the clock would be a real
> bonus...saves all those long faces at the service counter when you
> walk in for a repair. :) Thanksmike@mrcopies.com
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Hello,
<p>As being a electronic buff i could do a crystal replacement in a&nbsp;
couple of seconds as long as that if the only problem.&nbsp; I've never
seen a DeLorean clock but if it's a small little clock why not just get
a new one?
<p>- Shain
<p>"mike@mrcopies.com" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Hi Gang!</font></font>&nbsp;<font color="#000000"><font size=-1>I
had great success repairing my lock module (put in heavy duty relays etc..)
but the service depot I used (family) were hesistant to touch it without
a schematic.&nbsp; Once I gave it to them they did a FANTASTIC repair job...the
unit looked better than factory new.</font></font>&nbsp;<font color="#000000"><font size=-1>My
1983 Delorean didn't have a dash clock but I recently purchased a clock
and panel out of a wreck and it's in super shape except the clock's not
working properly.&nbsp; Has anyone had any luck repairing their clock?&nbsp;
Mark Hershey was kind enough to point me in the right direction but I was
wondering if anyone else has replaced their clock crystal.&nbsp; A schematic
for the clock would be a real bonus...saves all those long faces at the
service counter when you walk in for a repair. :)</font></font>&nbsp;<font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Thanks</font></font><font color="#000000"><font size=-1><a href="mailto:mike@mrcopies.com">mike@mrcopies.com</a></font></font>&nbsp;
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