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----------------------------------------------------------------- 4258. delorean502@excite.com Instument cluster case 4259. Doc Intake 4260. Doc Re: relay for doors 4261. Doc Re: headliner fabric 4262. Doc Re: Historical Status for CA? 4263. Jesse D. Sightler Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? 4264. DMC Joe Re: History Channel Documentary 4265. DMC Joe Re: undercarriage cleaning 4266. mishka1@interlog.com Help a Canadian Out, eh! 4267. DMC Joe Re: relay for doors 4268. DMC Joe Re: headliner fabric 4269. DMC Joe Re: dash and other questions 4270. Carson Clark Re: dash and other questions 4271. Carson Clark Re: relay for doors 4272. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! 4273. Marc A Levy Re: Hesitation from the Line 4274. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: undercarriage cleaning 4275. Scott Donnelly Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? 4276. Phil Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? 4277. Jonathan Heslop Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? 4278. David Sontos Re: Instument cluster case 4279. CBL302@aol.com Re: History Channel Documentory 4280. Garrit Taylor Antenna Switcheroo 4281. GFesta5@aol.com BTTF DeLoreans 4282. CBL302@aol.com Re: History Channel Documentary 4283. SweatyEddy Re: Historical Status for CA? 4284. Deloreanernst@aol.com Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! 4285. Rob Hook Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? 4286. Dave Stragand Disassembled D web page 4287. Dave Stragand Re: Disassembled D web page 4288. J.D. Robbins car history, delorean one, dead end 4289. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! 4290. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: Struts source 4291. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: relay for doors 4292. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: DeLorean Owners in Southern Ontario 4293. John Hanley Sump Drain Tool 4294. Doc Radio wires 4295. Kemp, Nick (MN10) DMC look alike 4296. raynet@home.net Re: headliner fabric 4297. Josh S. Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4298. Josh S. '82 DeLorean knock-off found in new computer game 4299. delorean502@excite.com oil drain tool 4300. Robert Brandys Dyno Day starting time 4301. Kevin Rawlings Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! 4302. Stian Birkeland Re: History Channel Documentory 4303. delorean502@excite.com carpet stains 4304. Carson Clark Re: Antenna Switcheroo 4305. Goin88mph@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4306. thai vu power antenna 4307. thai vu Power door lock (tv) 4308. thai vu Stereo and vents (tv) 4309. delorean502@excite.com framed prototype pic 4310. Todd Kneib Lockzilla 4311. NBeatson@aol.com Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! 4312. porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com eBay Delorean 4313. IVe099@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4314. IVe099@aol.com No DMC logo 4315. dmc-flux Re: DeLorean Owners in Southern Ontario 4316. BondAtomic@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4317. MaineMan5@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4318. Carson Clark Re: eBay Delorean 4319. Tamir Ardon Re: carpet stains 4320. Carson Clark Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4321. Mike Substelny Unanswered DeLorean Questions 4322. Tamir Ardon Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4323. TTanaka504@aol.com Radio fuse 4324. Danrc30 Re: Stereo and vents (tv) 4325. MikeRobberts@aol.com Had accident need parts 4326. Jim Re: BTTF DeLoreans 4327. Amazinrick@aol.com Re: BTTF DeLoreans--FINAL! :) 4328. BigJohn927@aol.com Re: eBay Delorean 4329. Marc A Levy Re: Unanswered DeLorean Questions 4330. jsight@pair.com Armrest Removal 4331. Marc A Levy Re: eBay Delorean 4332. DMC Joe Re: Are these relay problems? 4333. DMC Joe Re: Hesitation from the Line 4334. DMC Joe Re: relay for doors 4335. DMC Joe Re: Instrument cluster case 4336. Josh S. Re: Lockzilla 4337. delorean502@excite.com drivers front fender 4338. jrobbins@brit.ca Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! 4339. jrobbins@brit.ca tow truck anyone? 4340. DMC Joe Re: Hesitation from the Line 4341. DMC Joe Re: carpet stains 4342. DMC Joe Re: power antenna 4343. DMC Joe Re: undercarriage cleaning 4344. DMC Joe Re: Radio wires 4345. DMC Joe Re: History Channel Documentary 4346. DMC Joe Re: Antenna Switcheroo 4347. MG36@aol.com Re: History Channel Documentory 4348. Martin Gutkowski Re: DeLorean in BBC's "Watchdog" programme 4349. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: History Channel Documentory 4350. Marc A Levy Re: Stereo and vents (tv) 4351. James Espey Re: Stereo and vents (tv) 4352. Doc Re: Some questions for the doc, Zillas and antena 4353. DMC3309@aol.com Re: Radio fuse 4354. Doc Re: Stereo and vents (tv) 4355. Mike $ One more antenna question :) 4356. DMC3309@aol.com Re: Stereo and vents (tv) 4357. delorean502@excite.com Re: Radio fuse -----------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:00:28 -0800 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] Instument cluster case Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is it possible to just by the binnicle (is that how it is spelled) without the instuments inside? Or do I have to buy it all in one piece? All my instuments work GREAT...never a problem, but the grey "hump" is cracked in many places from the sun. New ones from DMC Houston cost $600+ for the whole thing. OR, does anybody know how to cover up cracks...short term of coarse. I will replace it eventually. thanks alot
Erik Geerdink 4512
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Doc" <doctor280@email.msn.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:54:49 -0500 Subject: [DML] Intake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I would like to thank Bill Lane for giving me further insight, this past weekend, in how the PRV-6 is put together. Bill showed me first hand how the intake assembly comes off the engine and you can service the areas that are located under the intake. ( Water hoses, vacuum hoses, thermal control valve, and intake seals)
After experiencing this procedure being done, I can say that the job is time consuming, but not that difficult. I would also recommend to anyone out there that is considering having a tune up on their engine done, to service this area as well. When the intake is off it also makes access to the spark plugs and distributor so much easier.
Thanks again Bill for sharing the knowledge, Robert Starling Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Doc" <doctor280@email.msn.com> References: <7vni95$kjii@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:00:16 -0500 Subject: [DML] Re: relay for doors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot of > the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in a > lockzilla? thanks > > Erik Geerdink > 4512
Lockzilla is a must for reliability of the door locks. I would strongly recomend installing one before reconnecting the door lock system.
Robert Starling Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Doc" <doctor280@email.msn.com> References: <7vnifl$kjkc@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:05:44 -0500 Subject: [DML] Re: headliner fabric Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Also, DMC Houston offers > refurbished or machined wheels. Does that mean I have to send in my > wheels to get them redone, or do I actually get new wheels for that > price? I've e-mailed Houston, but no responce on this subject. Thanks
Yes, the price that they are quoting is with trade in of your wheels.
Robert Starling Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Doc" <doctor280@email.msn.com> References: <19991102234318.9479.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:13:37 -0500 Subject: [DML] Re: Historical Status for CA? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> I am also interested in the car's status in North Carolina since I will > be moving there soon. Any info would be helpful! > > thanks,
If you are moving near one of the larger cities here in North Carolina, you will most likely have to pass emission testing.
Robert Starling Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 13:55:19 -0500 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <941578599.4300.520@excite.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
dcsj@excite.com wrote: > > While looking through the back of an AutoWeek mag., a couple months back, I > ran across a for sale ad with picture. The car was a 1980 BMW M1 It appeared > to be a 2seat sports coupe the design was strikingly similar too a > Delorean/Lotus Espri Hybrid concept.
You are definately correct here. :) No gull-wing doors, but other than that, the car looks very much like a Delorean. It was also designed by Giugiaro and Ital Design, and I believe there were about 8000 produced, although I could be mixing the production number up with the Z1.
> It was listed @ $85,000 . Is this a rare prototype or an actual production > model? I have to say its the sharpest looking BMW I've ever seen. The front > end looks delorean and back end looks espri.
I've seen two of them in person at the Euro99 show earlier this year, and yes they are very impressive looking vehicles. I've never seen one for less than 70-80000, though. :)
--------------- Jesse D. Sightler http://www.biddin.com/delorean/
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:15:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Claude, There is only one statement that you made that I personally disagree with. You said "hence the oversize factory". Based on the projections of manufacturing capacity and room for expansion the factory was well designed and proportioned. As a matter of fact the factory is the only asset that the British Government gained when DMC closed. This beautiful facility is still in use today employing hundreds of workers in the Belfast area. John DeLorean said his operation would put a lot of jobless people back to work, so in reality the British government is getting a return on their investment to this very day.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: CBL302@aol.com > > > If there was someone to blame for a "Blunder" it was the man himself (JZD)not > the British Goverment,ok maybe a little blame on the British Government for > not keeping closer tabs on how the money was spent,but JZD was a General > Motors man,and the only thing he knew real good was about making high volume > cars,he was trying to run DMC as if it was one of the divisions of General > Motors,in other words some > body else pays all the bills(British Gov.),no matter what the cost,hence the > oversize factory,the Park Ave offices(New York)the overruns in expenses, the > over production > of cars ect.By the time he realized his "Blunders" it was to late,the British > Goverment > stopped the supply of cash,unless he could match the next Twenty million the > British Goverment was willing to give him,then we all know what happen in
> L.A. after that. > > Claude > 000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:03:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: undercarriage cleaning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Don, Any multi-purpose cleaner (409, Bleach White, etc.) will do the job with to harm to the metal, epoxy frame, and fiberglass underbody. The safest and easiest way to accomplish this is to place the car on four jack stands and remove the wheels. Use your garden hose to spray off all the loose dirt. A scrub brush with soap and water will aid in removing caked on dirt in areas like the wheel wells.
After a good rinsing get yourself a bunch of rags and the musti purpose cleaner mentioned above, slide under to car and clean, clean, clean. To remove oil and dirt from the bottom of the engine and trans, use carburetor spray cleaner and a paint brush. Be sure to use the carb cleaner with a spray nozzle to avoid over spray onto the epoxy frame and adjoining rubber components.
Be sure to read the warning labels on all of the products mentioned.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: saintern <saintern@peri.com> > So here's the big question....whats a good cleaner to get all > the grease and other stuff off all the pieces in the whell well (I'd > like to clean up the actual black under body too if possible) > Don Kazmark > http://www.geocities.com/dkazmark/
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:08:37 -0800 From: mishka1@interlog.com Subject: [DML] Help a Canadian Out, eh! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear DML members,
The day has come. I'm finally going to get one. My own D!
These are the elated thoughts that run through my mind all day and nights however I my bubble was a little burst when I found out almost every D being sold is in America somewhere. Arg. I'm stuck.
So a little insight into the Deloren obsessed psycho you read before you. I'm an eighteen-year old high school student with aspirations of Electrical and mechanical engineering. I drive an 81 Volvo 240 GLT with 272k on it (second best car on the planet) and all I've ever wanted in terms of a dream car was the Delorean.
So now the dilemma: I've searched endlessly for a black '81 5 speed for ages. Frankly, I'm to the point now where if someone has a scrapped one in the Ontario are I'd take it..... and pay as well. Even if it is a little ratty and doesn't run I'd be happy. I just want one to call my own once and for all.
So as cheesy and as annoying as this sounds please help me out if you know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in Canada please tell me! Any fleeting ideas as to how I'd get my hands on this fine peice of machinery are also welcomed.
not much more to say other than just remember the instant you realized the Delorean was yours.... Wouldn't you want someone else to know that type of joy?
Please Email me back, even if it is just to say hi at:
Mishka1@interlog.com
If you need to cantact me in any other way here's my info.
(416) 485-4708 (press 3 to leavre a msg)
Mike Kadonoff 8 Cole Millway Toronto, ONT. M4N 3P8
Thanks again!
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:46:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: relay for doors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Erik, The former owner did what we suggest to all D owners; disconnect the door lock module. Your lock module can be found at M:07:02 fig. 32 refereed to as the impulse unit in your DeLorean Workshop Manual. This item has no connection to the other relays therefore the relay update kit will not effect the door lock circuit.
To return your locking system to the original design and function purchase the Lockzilla.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > > I was wondering which relay controles the door locks. the former owner > of mine made it so both doors would not unlock with the turn of the > key. Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot of > the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in a > lockzilla? thanks > > Erik Geerdink > 4512
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:56:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: headliner fabric Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To match you fabric color just drive your DeLorean to your local appolstory shop and they will match your existing color with new fabric.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > > Does anybody know what shade of gray goes on the headliners?? is there > a color code or something? I'd like to get it done localy, but if need > be I will send them to DMC Houston. Also, DMC Houston offers > refurbished or machined wheels. Does that mean I have to send in my > wheels to get them redone, or do I actually get new wheels for that > price? I've e-mailed Houston, but no responce on this subject. Thanks > for the help. > > Erik Geerdink > 4512 > (looking forward to DMC 2000!!)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:21:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dash and other questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Unfortunately there are no removal or installation instructions for the dashboard.
The fuel tank removal is described at B:01:01 In the DeLorean Workshop Manual. This procedure requires a lift and should be left to a qualified service facility.
Relay locations are at M:07:02 in the above publication.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > > OK, a couple more questions that I just thought of... > > 1. Does anybody have instructions on how to take off teh dashboard? > > 2. How hard is it to take out the fuel tank to clean? is this > something I shouldn't try? anybody have instructions on how to do it? > > 3. Is there a diagram of the relays and what goes where? I couldn't > find it in the service manuals > > thats about it.....thanks! > > Erik
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:42:28 -0800 (PST) From: Carson Clark <cnsandog@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dash and other questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I dont know if it would be tacky or not but you could try:
1. finding a "dash mat" cloth to cover only the instrument panel.
2. take it to a local upholstry shop and see if they can cover it with leather that matches the rest of the interior.
either way it would be short term and not cost too much.
--- DMC83in99@aol.com wrote: > Erik, > > Is it your whole dashboard or just the binnacle that's cracked? > DMC and > DeLorean One both sell binnacles for around 300 dollars or so. > > Scott > 16738 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > eGroup Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/ > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:46:57 -0800 (PST) From: Carson Clark <cnsandog@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: relay for doors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Why should we disconnect the lock feature? It is very nice to have.
--- DMC Joe <DMCJOE@att.net> wrote: > Erik, > The former owner did what we suggest to all D owners; disconnect the > door > lock module. > Your lock module can be found at M:07:02 fig. 32 refereed to as the > impulse > unit in your DeLorean Workshop Manual. This item has no connection to > the > other relays therefore the relay update kit will not effect the door > lock > circuit. > > To return your locking system to the original design and function > purchase > the Lockzilla. > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> > Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com> > > ---------- > > From: delorean502@excite.com > > > > I was wondering which relay controles the door locks. the former > owner > > of mine made it so both doors would not unlock with the turn of the > > key. Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot > of > > the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in > a > > lockzilla? thanks > > > > Erik Geerdink > > 4512 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1 > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:04:27 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7vq17l$g7bq@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Mike wrote: > > The day has come. I'm finally going to get one. My own D! > > These are the elated thoughts that run through my mind all day and > nights however I my bubble was a little burst when I found out almost > every D being sold is in America somewhere. Arg. I'm stuck.
Why "stuck" Mike"? Is there a reason I don't know about why a DeLorean can't be brought into Canada from the US? I'm sure there are many sellers in the US that would be willing to work with you (myself included) to arrange shipping to your doorstep. At my asking price of $25K (maybe even less) I will include shipping costs to you (not to include import duties, if any).
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA USA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:27:25 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <D1471D59E7F6D011A2E10000C06B5BD63036BA@ntordsrv> Subject: [DML] Re: Hesitation from the Line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I sometimes have this problem too when the engine is cold. Was it cold when this happened?
I suspect the problem is that with the turbos (I have twin turbos, so I am assuming your setup is similar to mine) the cold start valve does not work properly due to the lack of vacuum in the intake where the valve (injector?) is located. My non-professional opinion would be that because this extra shot of fuel is not being sucked in to the intake as it normally should (because of the boost), the car hesitates.
I have considered relocating the tube that the valve is in to a point in the system before the turbos. On my car there is some space between the throttle plate and turbo inlet (This is where the vacuum for the timing control is taken from). This should be the point of highest vacuum in the system under all driving circumstances (boost or not). I have some reservations about trying this, and it may be a good time to present questions to the list to see if there are any answers-
- Is it OK to run a air/fuel mixture through the turbo? Currently no fuel goes through the turbo and I worry that the fuel may damage the turbo, and may even be a fire hazard.
- The cold start valve assembly also includes two barbs for vacuum for the PCV system, and fuel vapor recovery system. Will the contaminants from those sources damage the turbo or be a fire hazard?
- I had some others, but forget now :)
Rich Kula wrote: > > This morning I noticed some hesitation in 1st gear (5 speed with a single turbo) and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. I had to press the pedal all the way to the floor and once it hit 2000 to 2500 it seemed normal again. Just it seemed slower in getting there. The other gears and speeds seemed fine from an acceleration standpoint. Thanks for your support. > > Richard Kula > > #1460
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:32:05 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991103190544.CEOH23762@delorean> Subject: [DML] Re: undercarriage cleaning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> DMC Joe wrote: > > Any multi-purpose cleaner (409, Bleach White, etc.) will do the job with to > harm to the metal, epoxy frame, and fiberglass underbody. The safest and > easiest way to accomplish this is to place the car on four jack stands and > remove the wheels. Use your garden hose to spray off all the loose dirt. A > scrub brush with soap and water will aid in removing caked on dirt in areas > like the wheel wells. > After a good rinsing get yourself a bunch of rags and the musti purpose > cleaner mentioned above, slide under to car and clean, clean, clean. To > remove oil and dirt from the bottom of the engine and trans, use carburetor > spray cleaner and a paint brush. Be sure to use the carb cleaner with a > spray nozzle to avoid over spray onto the epoxy frame and adjoining rubber > components.
While I'm sure your method will work just fine Joe, it sounds extremely labor intensive. What about simple high pressure steam cleaning? There are numerous detailing shops in this area that will do a complete undercarriage steam cleaning for about 50 bucks, engine & tranny only for about $25. The results I have seen using this method are great! Most will even include touching up any chassis paint (usually flat black) that has been knocked off by the high pressure steam cleaning. I have had this done to several cars and the result usually is "like new". This method is commonly used by used car dealers to clean up the "top" of the engine so when you pop the hood you see "like new". Most detailing shops do not include undercarriage cleaning (except for wheel wells) in their price of "whole car" detailing, but will usually do it for an additional charge, or will do it without doing the rest of the car.
If you prefer to detail your own undercarriage after cleaning I highly recommend high pressure steam cleaning. There is NO resulting residue from various cleaning products and you can begin touch up painting without further preparation.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA USA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:26:05 -0500 From: Scott Donnelly <oharajem@free.midcoast.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.5083a3b5.2551a812@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Far from an expert on the M1 (or DeLorean), I've always thought the M1 was an in house effort. Here's what I've dug up: http://www.korman.com/m1.htm Back to lurk mode. Scott Donnelly
Macstacker@aol.com wrote:
> The M1 was a joint venture with BMW and ferrarri. The engine was from > ferrarri. Dont know if it was a V-8 or a V-12. But this car was from late > 70's early 80's. Italdesign did the styling on it. The car was sold in > small quantities in the U.S. (less than 500 if i recal the facts) and was > discontinued when ferrarri wanted out of the deal. Hot looking car though > with lots of lines similar to other ItalDesign cars of the period (DMC12, > Esprit, Maserati, Izuzu impulse). I would take it to be a very hot > collectors item, meant to be seen and not driven :^( unlike D's. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your eGroup's Document Vault > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Phil" <delorean@usfamily.net> References: <0.5083a3b5.2551a812@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:43:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The BMW M1 had a Indy-aspired I-6.
-Phil philf@ssesco.com
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> The M1 was a joint venture with BMW and ferrarri. The engine was from > ferrarri. Dont know if it was a V-8 or a V-12. But this car was from late > 70's early 80's. Italdesign did the styling on it. The car was sold in > small quantities in the U.S. (less than 500 if i recal the facts) and was > discontinued when ferrarri wanted out of the deal. Hot looking car though > with lots of lines similar to other ItalDesign cars of the period (DMC12, > Esprit, Maserati, Izuzu impulse). I would take it to be a very hot > collectors item, meant to be seen and not driven :^( unlike D's. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your eGroup's Document Vault > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1 > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Jonathan Heslop" <gatewayaag@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:02:13 -0600 Subject: [DML] Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This is my first posting here so I hope I do this right. :))
Another car that resembled the DeLorean was the first phase prototype of the Cadillac Allanté built in 1983 by Pininfarina in Turin, Italy. It had four seperate headlights with a grill just like the D. They were surrounded with a rubber or plastic gray front end piece as well. Above the grill and lights that piece was only about an inch long before the hood started but it still looked a lot like a DeLorean.
But by late 83 when the second prototype came out, all those DeLorean resemblances were gone and the car took on more of a look of it's own. One day I'll get a picture of it up on my website: http://www.mindspring.com/~gatewayaag
Well at least they still share the same spirit--low production orphan 2 seater.
--Jonathan Heslop DMC#000697 (Allanté NU126027, PU128044, & PU128171) St. Louis, MO mailto:gatewayaag@mindspring.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 18:47:40 -0500 From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7vppnb$bosr@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Instument cluster case Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There are six nuts on studs holding the binnacle to the dashboard. Remove them and the binnacle lifts straight up. Pop out the gauges and take the binnacle to your local upholstery shop.
Dave Sontos VIN 02573
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> Is it possible to just by the binnicle (is that how it is spelled) > without the instuments inside? Or do I have to buy it all in one > piece? All my instuments work GREAT...never a problem, but the grey > "hump" is cracked in many places from the sun. New ones from DMC > Houston cost $600+ for the whole thing. OR, does anybody know how to > cover up cracks...short term of coarse. I will replace it eventually. > thanks alot > > Erik Geerdink > 4512
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:50:39 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/3/99 8:55:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, dmc_norway@hotmail.com writes:
<< I disagree with you Claude, on your thoughts about the British Government. In fact, the British Government knew how the money was spent since they had people at the board. Also, the GPD scandal has often been blamed on Chapman/DeLorean. But what other fails to realize is that this deal was APPROVED by the British Government, that is, the Bank of England. Mo >>
I have read most of the books that are out there on the DMC Blunder,and again, JZD was the the person who was used to living a lavish lifestyle (as he still Does,look at his present estate)for example there was no reason for a startup company for JZD to fly first class on the Concord back and forth from New York to Britain,or buy $50,000 paintings for his Park Ave.offices(or even to have a very expensive office on Park Ave.,or throw big money at Lotus Engineering,only for them,to "throw away"the ERM process of making the car,and then Lotus just "cheapened" the Delorean by coping their Lotus Esprit,Sure the British Government knew money was being spent,but JZD,just like Mal.Bricklin were"Confidence Men"meaning that they could sell you the shirt off your back,and you would think you were getting a great bargain that was the kind of attitude that was present with the British Gov.They figured that they could get a area that was war torn,with a very high unemployment rate,and religious difference and get the people working together and, make a profit at the same time to boot,but again Delorean had a great idea at first,but he still had that GM attitude,spend,spend spend,and don't worry about the bills,his idea was that if he spent enough the British Gov.would have to much invested in the DMC project to back off,because you must remember it is Very difficult to get any Major Government involved in a private enterprise,but when they do WATCH OUT,they go full speed ahead,and that is exactly what happened with the British Gov.they were dazzled by JZD and he played his cards as far as he could,until his blunder finally fell thru.
Claude 000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Garrit Taylor" <carlover53@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 18:07:57 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Antenna Switcheroo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Id just like to know if it would be possible to get one of the automatic antennas into the right front fender spot. I know the manual one is supposed to go there, but it would be so much cooler if I could get my D to have an auto antenna. Thanks in advance.
Garrit Taylor 7197
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: GFesta5@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:42:04 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know what happened to the DeLoreans used in the "Back To The Future" films? Where they kept, sold scrapped? And what Vin Numbers did they have. Scott.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:50:26 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/3/99 4:32:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, DMCJOE@att.net writes:
<< here is only one statement that you made that I personally disagree with. You said "hence the oversize factory". Based on th >> Joe,by that I meant that for a one car factory to expect to produce X amount of cars and keep all the workers and the factory going for a startup company was way oversize,fine the property size was good but he should have built a smaller factory to start and see how the "market" would bear his product,and expand on site if it became successful thus avoiding what "really" happened,too many cars for the market to bear to keep the factory going,or at least KEPT the spending down to reasonably minimum until it was profitable,in other words do as Ferrari did,Small factory with a well built car,with a low volume production,and a high price.I know he was under pressure from the British Gov. to produce cars,but that was a big mistake between him and the British gov. to not have more that one type of car produced,or at least a non-gullwing Delorean,and possibly a convertible Delorean.
Claude 000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SweatyEddy" <swetyedy@cwnet.com> References: <19991102234318.9479.rocketmail@web504.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:05:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Historical Status for CA? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Carson, You will have to check with the DMV but last time I checked the state of California upped the requirement of an auto to be classified as historic from 25 to 30 years. It has been a few years so as I said before give the DMV a ring. -SweatyEddy
----- Original Message ----- From: Carson Clark <cnsandog@yahoo.com> To: DMC Group <dmcnews@egroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:43 PM Subject: [DML] Historical Status for CA?
> Do any of you fellow California DMC owners know if our cars can be > registered as a 'historical vehicle', and (more importantly) not have > to be smogged? I wondered about this after reading about it in the > latest DeLorean World Mag. > > I am also interested in the car's status in North Carolina since I will > be moving there soon. Any info would be helpful! > > thanks, > > > ===== > C > VIN 16367 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your eGroup's Document Vault > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1 > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Deloreanernst@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:21:27 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/3/99 4:33:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, mishka1@interlog.com writes:
<< please help me out if you know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in Canada please tell me! >> I recently responded to another Canadian remarking that you might be surprised to find some under your nose... but when my son checked www.traderonline today, there wasn't one listed in all of Canada! On the other hand, you're closer to a lot of US D's than you are to one in, say, Vancouver. One word of advice (to any buyer): talk to SEVERAL owners as well as sellers before you buy. I had to hang onto my wallet to keep money from jumping out of it at the first DeLorean I actually saw for sale. It was an '82, carefully garaged but totally unrestored, for an asking price of $17,000. I now know that it would probably need a minimum of $5,000, up to $10,000. to make it a daily driver. I know, because there are a number of fully restored D's in that same (asking) price range, or less. Not concours, but really great looking. One guy on this (DML) list, also a teenager, is in NJ selling his for an asking price around $8,000 but it needs work and $$$. So, happy hunting! - Wayne
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Rob Hook <rob_hook@pop.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:52:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Actually, the earlier prototype for this car (the M1) DID have gullwing doors and VERY DeLorean-esque windows. It was simply called the BMW Turbo and was introduced in 1973. For more info (not much more) see "The Best Of Motor Trend", their 50th Anniversary Special. This magazine also has two pictures of and some words about the DeLorean. The M1 was a very limited production car with only 457 examples produced. It did NOT have a V8 or V12 and Ferrari had nothing to do with the design. The engine was essentially the 3.4 from the 635CSi. For more info on the M1, see "The Ultimate Classic Car Book" by our friend Quentin Willson. This book also has a couple unfriendly pages (but nice pictures) about the DeLorean.
Now, if you want to see another prototype that looks ALOT like the DeLorean, look up the Ford Mustang RSX designed by GHIA in the late 70s/early 80s. This can be found on page 240 of "The Complete Book of Mustang". The doors may not be gullwings (can't tell from the picture) but the windows look identical to the DeLorean.
--Rob Hook
-----Original Message----- From: Jesse D. Sightler [SMTP:jsight@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 1:55 PM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Another Giugiaro Design Influence?
dcsj@excite.com wrote: > > While looking through the back of an AutoWeek mag., a couple months back, I > ran across a for sale ad with picture. The car was a 1980 BMW M1 It appeared > to be a 2seat sports coupe the design was strikingly similar too a > Delorean/Lotus Espri Hybrid concept.
You are definately correct here. :) No gull-wing doors, but other than that, the car looks very much like a Delorean. It was also designed by Giugiaro and Ital Design, and I believe there were about 8000 produced, although I could be mixing the production number up with the Z1.
> It was listed @ $85,000 . Is this a rare prototype or an actual production > model? I have to say its the sharpest looking BMW I've ever seen. The front > end looks delorean and back end looks espri.
I've seen two of them in person at the Euro99 show earlier this year, and yes they are very impressive looking vehicles. I've never seen one for less than 70-80000, though. :)
--------------- Jesse D. Sightler http://www.biddin.com/delorean/
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:15:19 -0500 From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand@ketchum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Disassembled D web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi All,
Progress is going steadily on VIN 5927. I got my first roll of film back, and made a web page of my first two weeks of progress. I think this might be the worst-looking D I've ever seen, but things will be changing shortly!!! =)
-Dave Stragand dave.stragand@ketchum.com VIN 5927
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:23:56 -0500 From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand@ketchum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38211667.49CA6726@ketchum.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Disassembled D web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
D'oh! I forgot the link. I must be loopy from breathing all that leather cleaner tonight...
http://www.forwardlook.net/DMC
-Dave
Dave Stragand wrote:
> Progress is going steadily on VIN 5927. I got my first roll of film > back, and made a web page of my first two weeks of progress. I think > this might be the worst-looking D I've ever seen, but things will be > changing shortly!!! =)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:50:41 -0500 From: "J.D. Robbins" <jrobbins@brit.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] car history, delorean one, dead end Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I recently found repair records for my car tucked deep in the glove box. It seems that my car was repaired quite exclusively at Delorean One in California.
It would seem, however, that Delorean One doesn't have very good bookkeeping because upon emailing them, they told me that they have no records for my car... even though they last repaired it in 93 and I have about 10 of their invoices.
I would imagine that most reputable places would try to keep records far longer than 7 years, especially for a special car that stopped production in 83.
I have to admit that I am very disappointed in Delorean One for not having anything on my car, even though I have about $10,000 in repair invoices for my car.
Anyone else have a similar experience with these guys?
J -- J.D. Robbins Project Lead, BRIT Inc. http://www.brit.ca BBCanada Inc. http://www.bbcanada.com - If ever there was a time for solution-
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0800 From: jrobbins@brit.ca In-Reply-To: <7vq17l$g7bq@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> So now the dilemma: I've searched endlessly for a black '81 5 speed for > ages. Frankly, I'm to the point now where if someone has a scrapped one > in the Ontario are I'd take it..... and pay as well. Even if it is a > little ratty and doesn't run I'd be happy. I just want one to call my > own once and for all.
I hear ya brother.
I looked for TWO YEARS all across Ontario for a solid Delorean. I saw alot of junkers, a few passable ones... and even a few decent ones, but nothing I'd want to own. I wanted a daily driver car, not a project car. I ultimately had to fly to San Diego, CA to find and buy one.
If it is in your budget, I recommend going to CA to at least see a few. The worst delorean in CA was better than the finest I could find around Ontario. I saw far too many 'guidoed' cars, like monster engines... or worse: painted deloreans. Also, I found alot of people said their delorean was a "9/10" but they really were more like 5/10's. Alot can happen to a car in 20 years, especially if it has changed hands many times. Be careful to inspect wiring, engine, cockpit... there can be many mistakes which will cost you to repair.
The car I ended up buying and having shipped back to me in Ottawa was a 81 5 speed with grey interior (I recommend Grey because Black is unbelievably hot in the summer). Heck, Grey is hot too, but not as hot. I only know of one other Delorean in Ottawa, but he never drives it. It is in storage. Having a Delorean here is like owning a spaceship that travels to mars: everyone has heard of such things, but nobody has actually seen one until they see mine. It is a bit unnerving actually... I can never get out of my car without someone making a BTTF (flux capacitor, Marty McFly) comment, or someone wanting a tour. That's ok sometimes, but not when I'm in a hurry. I'm sure that I'm not the only person to have this problem.
> So as cheesy and as annoying as this sounds please help me out if you > know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in > Canada please tell me! Any fleeting ideas as to how I'd get my hands on > this fine peice of machinery are also welcomed.
Consider the following:
Owning is only the first step in the Delorean experience. Finding a mechanic within 1000 miles of where you live is also a big problem. I found a guy in Ottawa who knows the Volvo engine the DMC has, as well as the fuel injection system.
But as for the rest, you're on your own. Since I'm a "long distance" owner (ie: in Canada), the best place I have found to buy parts and to just talk to someone who cares and who knows the car inside out is PJ Grady www.pjgrady.com They also have some really cool 'zilla' products which make the car alot more wonderful. IMHO, PJGrady is the best for service, price and proximity (New York State).
> Mike Kadonoff > 8 Cole Millway > Toronto, ONT. > M4N 3P8
I was just in Toronto seeing "Forever Swing" on Yonge. I brought my delorean. The day after, I parked next to a Ferrari ... needless to say the Delorean caught more stares and gasps than the red monster parked next to me.
What type of budget are you on? I spent about $30,000 CDN (about $17,500 US) all told getting my car back from California. I still have my notes on some of the 'project cars' out here in Ontario if you're looking for a starter. Just let me know.
Best regards,
J. Robbins
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 22:09:40 -0800 From: jrobbins@brit.ca In-Reply-To: <19991103081945.RZVO23762@delorean> Subject: [DML] Re: Struts source Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I recently ordered door list pistons from PJ Grady's www.pjgrady.com
They worked great! My doors went from opening half way to opening fully. Took about 5 minutes to install.
J
> > From: Mike $ <sheilaridez@hotmail.com> > > > > Hi, I just got an 81, red dmc, it is a beautiful car, but the doors only > go > > up a little over half way, the struts seem very weak, and i'm pretty sure > it > > is the problem. Could someone aim me in the direction of an inexpensive > > source for replacement struts for the doors, and are there any cheaper > > struts that can be used to replace the front and louver struts? Any > > information is greatly appreciated, i'm very new to the community, but I > > have been doing my homework. > > thanks, > > Mike Schaefer >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 22:14:27 -0800 From: jrobbins@brit.ca In-Reply-To: <001901bf2625$498ebd40$edfe183f@computer> Subject: [DML] Re: relay for doors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"doc" <doctor28-@email.msn.com> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=4260 > Also, if I purchased the relay update, would that fix a lot of > > the problems with the doors locking you in?? Or should I invest in a > > lockzilla? thanks > > > > Erik Geerdink > > 4512 > > Lockzilla is a must for reliability of the door locks. I would strongly > recomend installing one before reconnecting the door lock system. > > Robert Starling > Vin#5252
I second the motion. I recently purchased lockzilla and can't believe the difference. You only need to get locked inside your car once to realize how poorly designed the original door control module is.
FYI: https://ssl.internetcreations.com/grady/power.htm
J
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 22:20:25 -0800 From: jrobbins@brit.ca In-Reply-To: <19991031142316.52336.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Owners in Southern Ontario Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"kevin rawlings" <blast5-@hotmail.com> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=4161 > Hello DMLers, > > I live in Canada and I don't own a DeLorean (yet.) As you can guess, there > aren't many of them at all here, and I would really like to get in touch > with someone who owns one. If you do, or you know someone who does, please > let me know.
I'm in Eastern Ontario (Ottawa) and own a DMC12. I know of someone in Picton who owns one. I've seen a few scattered across Ontario, but nothing wonderful.
I had to go to California to buy mine.
If you have any questions, let me know!
J jrobbins@brit.ca
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:58:28 -0500 From: John Hanley <106165.1407@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Sump Drain Tool Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Could anyone advise if the Bung on the Sump is 3/8" BSP or 8mm
Regards John Hanley VIn 16369
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Doc" <doctor280@email.msn.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:52:32 -0500 Subject: [DML] Radio wires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone out there know the color codes of the wires that plug into the Craig radio. I am replacing it with a Kenwood and knowing which wire goes where would save me a lot of time.
Robert Starling Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp@HBC.honeywell.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:05:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DMC look alike Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On a hasty trip to the airport, the car I was in passed a flatbed truck with what looked to be a 4 door DeLorean. It turned out to be either a: Aston Martin Lagonda V8 (Series IV) 1987-1990 http://www.globalserve.net/~hidinger/aml/postwar/l-v8-3.htm or a: Lagonda V8 (Series II & III) 1976-1987 http://www.globalserve.net/~hidinger/aml/postwar/l-v8-2.htm
For other post war Aston Martin cars see: http://www.globalserve.net/~hidinger/aml/postwar/index.htm
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 07:26:18 -0800 From: raynet@home.net In-Reply-To: <7vnifl$kjkc@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: headliner fabric Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If you are going to be redoing both the door headliners and center T panels, They sell a nice gray fabric at Wal-Mart. I purchased that and a 1/8" think insulation material for the backing. Using 3M super adhesive spray in even coats, I adhered the backing/fabric to the headliner panels. I was actually surprised on how good it came out. Two notes for doing this
1) Adhere the fabric to the backing BEFORE adhering to the headliner. I had adhered the backing and then the fabric to the backing... Turned out to be a real pain to get it smooth but I finally did
2) Leave lots of extra fabric off the ends to be able to run up to the weather stripping. I cut it a little short and almost didn't have enough to cover up to the rubber stripping
For never doing anything like this before, I think it came out quite well. Give yourself LOTS of time to do it. If your not a patient person (which I am definitely not) You may want to let a professional apolster do it!!
Raymond McKay
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:45:42 EST From: "Josh S." <now.here@mindless.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Scott asked: >Does anyone know what happened to the DeLoreans used in the "Back To The >Future" films? Where they kept, sold scrapped? And what Vin Numbers did they >have.
I'm not online currently but I know that alot of this information is in the archives, both on eGroups and also some was dealt with in the archives at http://www.dmcnews.com ... check with your searches for "BTTF" and "Universal Studios" -- Specifically I'd check the 10/13/97 issue or around that time frame on the DmC News site :-) I don't remember whether the vin numbers are available on the list archives tho ...
Sincerely, Josh S. vin: Not yet ... =-=-=-=-=-=-= Mother told me to be good, but she's been wrong before.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 11:00:11 EST From: "Josh S." <now.here@mindless.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] '82 DeLorean knock-off found in new computer game!?! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was reading one of the gaming magazines and saw what looked to be a DeLorean in a new computer game published by Activision. I dropped off at their www site and lo and behold the game (Titled "Interstate '82") has what appears to be an '82 DeLorean knockoff in their new game :-) With extremely similar styling and appearance the quote from the WWW site on the vehicle was as follows:
"'82 De Landau The De Landau's body is made of beautiful brushed stainless steel making it quite resilient. The car is consequently quite heavy when compared to other sports cars of comparable size."
The WWW page for Interstate '82 is: http://www.activision.com/games/i82/
Just a note for those who want a computer game with the D's ...
-Josh S. vin: Not yet ... =-=-=-=-=-=-= A day without sunshine is like night.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:05:06 -0800 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] oil drain tool Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
anybody know where I can find an oil drain tool? would Auto Zone have this or is this a DMC Houston only thing? and if so, how much are these things? thanks
Erik Geerdink 4512 EGGS D
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:12:36 -0600 From: Robert Brandys <oehcs@flash.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0.83a742db.254f7ccd@aol.com> <19991102172043.62227.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Dyno Day starting time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Starting time for dyno day is 9 AM. We have not made plans for lunch, but there is a nice hot dog place next door.
So far we have about 10 people coming with testing of 4-5 cars.
Bob
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Kevin Rawlings" <blast59@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:11:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Same here Mike! I too know the pain of living in a DeLorean deprived country. The only difference is I'm 14. I am slowly driving everyone in my family insane with DeLoreans, but I think that I've convinced them to go to Cleveland for DMC 2000! The sad fact is that I've never seen a DeLorean in real life, except when I was about three, someone out by Niagra Falls drove one to work every single day, right past my house! I was just not old enough to remember it!!!!!! Oh well... if anyone has one they want to get rid of (I can't imagine why) please let me know! My goal is to buy one and work on it until I can drive.
Kevin (blast59@hotmail.com)
>From: mishka1@interlog.com >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@eGroups.com >Subject: [DML] Help a Canadian Out, eh! >Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:08:37 -0800 > >Dear DML members, > >The day has come. I'm finally going to get one. My own D! > >These are the elated thoughts that run through my mind all day and >nights however I my bubble was a little burst when I found out almost >every D being sold is in America somewhere. Arg. I'm stuck. > >So a little insight into the Deloren obsessed psycho you read before >you. I'm an eighteen-year old high school student with aspirations of >Electrical and mechanical engineering. I drive an 81 Volvo 240 GLT with >272k on it (second best car on the planet) and all I've ever wanted in >terms of a dream car was the Delorean. > >So now the dilemma: I've searched endlessly for a black '81 5 speed for >ages. Frankly, I'm to the point now where if someone has a scrapped one >in the Ontario are I'd take it..... and pay as well. Even if it is a >little ratty and doesn't run I'd be happy. I just want one to call my >own once and for all. > >So as cheesy and as annoying as this sounds please help me out if you >know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy that owns one in >Canada please tell me! Any fleeting ideas as to how I'd get my hands on >this fine peice of machinery are also welcomed. > >not much more to say other than just remember the instant you realized >the Delorean was yours.... Wouldn't you want someone else to know that >type of joy? > >Please Email me back, even if it is just to say hi at: > >Mishka1@interlog.com > >If you need to cantact me in any other way here's my info. > >(416) 485-4708 (press 3 to leavre a msg) > >Mike Kadonoff >8 Cole Millway >Toronto, ONT. >M4N 3P8 > >Thanks again!
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:16:18 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Claude wrote: >I have read most of the books that are out there on the DMC >Blunder,and >again, JZD was the the person who was used to living a >lavish lifestyle >(as he still Does,look at his present estate)
Mr. DeLorean's present estate in Bedminster,NJ, was bought before he started DMC. Lavish lifestyle? Well, he has declared bankruptcy so as to protect his house and so that he can live there...Now who wouldn't have done that?
>for example there was no reason for a startup company for JZD to fly >first >class on the Concord back and forth from New York to Britain,
AFAIK, Mr. DeLorean was in Northern Ireland two times.
>or buy $50,000 paintings for his Park Ave.offices(or even to have a >very >expensive office on Park Ave.,
Well, you may have a point here, but DeLorean's point was to be noticed. You don't start up a new car company living in barracks. This style is of course expensive, yet essential in getting investors to invest.
>or throw big money at Lotus Engineering,only for them,to "throw >away"the >ERM process of making the car,and then Lotus just >"cheapened" the Delorean >by coping their Lotus Esprit,
The ERM process was only patented but never tried out. Therefore DMC went for the Lotus solution - cheaper, and proven! Imagine what could happen if ERM was chosen and didn't work. The company would have gone out of business at once...
>Sure the British Government knew money was being spent,but JZD,just >like >Mal.Bricklin were "Confidence Men" meaning that they could sell >you the >shirt off your back,and you would think you were getting a >great bargain >that was the kind of attitude that was present with >the British Gov.They figured that they could get a area that was war >torn,with a very high unemployment rate,and religious difference and >get >the people working together and, make a profit at the same time >to >boot,but again Delorean had a great idea at first,but he still >had that GM >attitude,spend,spend spend,and don't worry about the >bills,his idea was >that if he spent enough the British Gov.would >have to much invested in the >DMC project to back off,because you >must remember it is Very difficult to >get any Major Government >involved in a private enterprise,but when they do >WATCH OUT,they go >full speed ahead,and that is exactly what happened with >the >British Gov.they were dazzled by JZD and he played his cards as far >as he >could,until his blunder finally fell thru.
You have some points here, but again, this is only half the story. The British Government (Conservatives) REFUSED to give DeLorean export-financing while every other manufacturer gets that whether they make tooth-brushes or steam-engines. To quote Thatcher "You're on your own!" Besides, I think there is more...the Conservatives couldnt allow Labour to have success with the DeLorean project... It cost the British Taxpayer a lot more to close the factory than it would have cost to keep the company afloat a few months more...
As I see it DeLorean did only one mistake, and that was that the company was too slow to get to the other markets, esp. the European market. The car was a winner, and when recession set in in the US, the European market could have swallowed those "extra" cars that piled up...
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:23:43 -0800 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] carpet stains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anybody know of a GREAT product to get out tough stains on carpet...for the Delorean of course! I took out my seats and I want to give all the carpet area a good clean, and hopefully make them look like new. Thanks
Erik 4512
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My auto antenna is located inside the air intake on the rear of the drivers side. If you open the engine and look to the left you will see some bolts holding on an access pannel, if you remove it you will find plenty of room to insert your antenna. You will have to figure out a way to position it so it will stay, and then when it comes up it will stick out of the air vent and retract into the vent when down. Also when down it cannot be seen. Hope this helps, I just had to replace mine last weekend- some idiot broke it before i bought the car- he opened the louvres then turned on the radio then closed the louvres---> on my antenna. *SNAP
good luck
Garrit Taylor <carlover53@hotmail.com> wrote: Id just like to know if it would be possible to get one of the automatic antennas into the right front fender spot. I know the manual one is supposed to go there, but it would be so much cooler if I could get my D to have an auto antenna. Thanks in advance.
Garrit Taylor 7197
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<P>My auto antenna is located inside the air intake on the rear of the drivers side. If you open the engine and look to the left you will see some bolts holding on an access pannel, if you remove it you will find plenty of room to insert your antenna. You will have to figure out a way to position it so it will stay, and then when it comes up it will stick out of the air vent and retract into the vent when down. Also when down it cannot be seen. Hope this helps, I just had to replace mine last weekend- some idiot broke it before i bought the car- he opened the louvres then turned on the radio then closed the louvres---> on my antenna. *SNAP</P> <P>good luck</P> <P> </P> <P><B><I>Garrit Taylor <carlover53@hotmail.com></B></I> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Id just like to know if it would be possible to get one of the automatic <BR>antennas into the right front fender spot. I know the manual one is <BR>supposed to go there, but it would be so much cooler if I could get my D to <BR>have an auto antenna. Thanks in advance.<BR><BR>Garrit Taylor<BR>7197<BR><BR>______________________________________________________<BR><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:<BR>www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html<BR><BR>To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:<BR>moderator@dmcnews.com<BR><BR><BR>eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews<BR>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>C<br>VIN 16367 <br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>Bid and sell for free at <a href="http://auctions.yahoo.com/">Yahoo! Auctions</a>.<br> </body></html> --0-424238335-941734042=:8817--
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Goin88mph@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:50:50 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
These are still kept, at universal cities (i am pretty sure) and i believe that the VIN to the one in the first films was #6475 (i may be wrong, so please correct me)
Jay (VIN# Not Yet)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:24:11 -0800 (PST) From: thai vu <thaiqvu@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] power antenna Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > > > Could anyone please let us know what aftermarket power antenna will fit in the DeLorean (rear left), and brackets, etc.
Thanks "tvwingz"
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:22:37 -0800 (PST) From: thai vu <thaiqvu@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Power door lock (tv) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > > > It may have been asked many times before,.. but my power door locks are not working.
What do we need (components) to replace and where to get them?
Thanks, "tvwingz"
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:31:02 -0800 (PST) From: thai vu <thaiqvu@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Stereo and vents (tv) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > > > How do we remove the center vents so the original radio can be removed (easily)?
Thanks, "tvwingz"
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:11:08 -0800 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] framed prototype pic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I've been meaning to post this, but its slipped my mind. About a month ago my friends dad gave me a gift. It is a professionaly done framed picture of the prototype delorean. the one with the Citroen engine, muffle is painted yellow, only one latch to hold the doors down and thats right in the senter of the opening. the SS panels look a LOT better than the production panels,,,very sharp and precice. My friends dad works at a place called GENTEX. They produce high tech rearview mirrors for very expensive cars. it was hanging in one of the confrence rooms there. GENTEX never worked on anything with delorean BTW. I will scan the pic and the back of it (it has where it came from). I was just wondering if anybody else has a pic of this "D" professionaly done....and where you bought it from. thanks
Erik Geerdink 4512
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:20:20 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Kneib <jtkvhti@walden.mvp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Lockzilla Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Where do you get Lockzilla, and how much do they cost?
Thanks Todd Enthusiast without money (...Still saving...:)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NBeatson@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:10:15 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What about us poor unfortunates who live in the UK? Most of us have imported our cars across the pond. You should think yourself lucky having the US as a neighbour. Believe me that its probably a whole lot cheaper to ship a car up to Canada than it is to get one across the Atlantic (and a bit quicker too!!!)
Nigel Vin 2677
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 11:32:58 -0800 From: porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com Subject: [DML] eBay Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anybody seen one of the recent Deloreans posted on eBay claiming that the Delorean is one of the fasted production cars on the road? He said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can the Northstar Delorean even go 160MPH?? I e-mailed the seller and he says it goes well over 160MPH.
Bill
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: IVe099@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:07:30 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
they have some cars on display at the universal studios theme parks. i don't know the vin numbers. apparently 6 or 7 were used in the film, meaning there are 4 or 5 still unaccounted for.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: IVe099@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:09:10 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] No DMC logo Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_0.c5e51480.255341e6_boundary" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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The DeLorean used in the movie "The Wedding Singer" has no DMC logo on the grill. Why is this? The only DeLoreans I've seen without a DMC logo were the prototypes. They wouldn't use a prototype in the movie would they?
-Tom Vin #5588
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "dmc-flux" <dmc-flux@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:29:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Owners in Southern Ontario Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
We am in Cape Vincent, New York right across from Kingston, Ontario. I am not sure where you are in Ontario, but we are always glad to meet fellow enthusiasts. Please email me privately regarding this matter at stiefel@geocities.com
Jack and Virginia Stiefel DMC Vin 3461 -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Rawlings <blast59@hotmail.com> To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com> Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 5:24 PM Subject: [DML] DeLorean Owners in Southern Ontario
>Hello DMLers, > >I live in Canada and I don't own a DeLorean (yet.) As you can guess, there >aren't many of them at all here, and I would really like to get in touch >with someone who owns one. If you do, or you know someone who does, please >let me know. > >Thanks, >Kevin > >PS - Check out my webpage: www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Factory/9755/ > >______________________________________________________ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator@dmcnews.com > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: BondAtomic@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:01:01 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
All I know about the Back to the Future DeLoreans is that they are still intact and they are on display in like California.
John Feldman
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: MaineMan5@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:06:44 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
One of them is at Uneversal Studios i thing flordia with the "time train"
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:50:12 -0800 (PST) From: Carson Clark <cnsandog@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: eBay Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If he is talking about the stock DeLorean (PRV) engine going 160MPH, without any modifications he is smoking crack cocaine. ;-)
--- porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com wrote: > Has anybody seen one of the recent Deloreans posted on eBay claiming > that the Delorean is one of the fasted production cars on the road? > He > said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale > starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can > the Northstar Delorean even go 160MPH?? I e-mailed the seller and he > says it goes well over 160MPH. > > Bill > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- Create a poll/survey for your eGroup! > -- http://www.egroups.com/vote?listname=dmcnews&m=1 > > >
===== C VIN 16367 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:41:11 -0800 From: Tamir Ardon <tamir@entermyworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7vsbuf$pa58@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: carpet stains Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C7D2C30ECBE99022DA843290" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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The best carpet cleaner I have worked with is Spot Shot, they sell it at Home Depot and probably other large hardware stores. It did miracles with my mats.
Tamir http://www.entermyworld.com
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> Does anybody know of a GREAT product to get out tough stains on > carpet...for the Delorean of course! I took out my seats and I want to > give all the carpet area a good clean, and hopefully make them look > like new. Thanks > > Erik > 4512 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your eGroup's Document Vault > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> The best carpet cleaner I have worked with is <b>Spot Shot</b>, they sell it at Home Depot and probably other large hardware stores. It did miracles with my mats. <p>Tamir <br><A HREF="http://www.entermyworld.com">http://www.entermyworld.com</A> <p>delorean502@excite.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Does anybody know of a GREAT product to get out tough stains on <br>carpet...for the Delorean of course! I took out my seats and I want to <br>give all the carpet area a good clean, and hopefully make them look <br>like new. Thanks <p>Erik <br>4512 <p>------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br>Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: <br>www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html <p>To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: <br>moderator@dmcnews.com <p>-- 20 megs of disk space in your eGroup's Document Vault <br>-- <a href="http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1">http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1</a></blockquote>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:53:59 -0800 (PST) From: Carson Clark <cnsandog@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I once read on a web page that they never used a REAL delorean in the BTTF movies. I dont know if that information was correct or not. The author said that they built lookalike DMC's. If I find the page again I will post it. If anyones knows that I am wrong feel free to speak up...;-)
--- BondAtomic@aol.com wrote: > All I know about the Back to the Future DeLoreans is that they are > still > intact and they are on display in like California. > > John Feldman > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1 > > >
===== C VIN 16367 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:40:41 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Unanswered DeLorean Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
As moderator this week, I just reviewed the messages that were posted so far. I noticed that a number of questions were left unanswered (some lead to tangents but never actually got answers). Most of these concerned alternate sources for parts like shocks and window motors.
I also saw quite a few questions asked today that might not get answers (e.g. The Wedding Singer, radio antenna, and Lockzilla questions).
The reason they might not receive answers is because the topics have already been covered extensively by the DML. Many subscribers will see the repeat topic and immediately delete the question without responding. If the DML were still running at a ridiculous pace (more than 100 postings per day in September) I would try to discourage these repeat topics. Right now there is room for them.
Even if someone does answer them, the response will take at least half a day. If the people asking the questions had scanned the back issues instead, they would probably have found their answers within ten minutes.
- Mike Substelny This week's DML moderator
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:17:45 -0800 From: Tamir Ardon <tamir@entermyworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991104215359.10186.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
No, that is not true. Search the archives, from the info I know, there were seven Deloreans used in the movie (most real, others models), and four Deloreans made into BTTF cars after the ride came out at both theme parks. The cars they display are not really from the movie, just mock ups to impress tourists. I am almost positive that one of the cars from the first movie is in Steven Speilberg's hands, and the other real ones are kept in storage, probably falling apart.
Tamir http://www.entermyworld.com
Carson Clark wrote:
> I once read on a web page that they never used a REAL delorean in the > BTTF movies. I dont know if that information was correct or not. The > author said that they built lookalike DMC's. If I find the page again > I will post it. If anyones knows that I am wrong feel free to speak > up...;-)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: TTanaka504@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:41:44 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Radio fuse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello list
I am also a 81' delorean owner and have some problems. My car radio is not working at all. Last owner
told me that when he jumped up the delorean, then the radio did not work since that. I doubt the radio fuse was burned up. Then I looked at the manual for the fuses.
One near the relay box was fine. Is anybody know where is others or any recommendtion for fixing my radio? I feel pretty lonely to drive a car without music. Thank you for help.
Blacknight
ttanaka504@aol.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30@hotmail.com> References: <19991104173102.3076.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:36:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Stereo and vents (tv) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
You have to remove the center console in order to remove the radio properly. ----- Original Message ----- From: thai vu <thaiqvu@yahoo.com> To: <dmcnews@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:31 PM Subject: [DML] Stereo and vents (tv)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we remove the center vents so the original > radio can be removed (easily)? > > Thanks, > "tvwingz" > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: MikeRobberts@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:10:17 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Had accident need parts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all,
I've been a member of this list for about a year under my old e-mail address. I've never actually posted anything until now. Earlier this year I was involved in a front end collision at around 30 mph with my baby. It's been my weekend car for 5 years now and I miss driving it and I have better resources now ($$) so I'm finally getting around to fixing it, that and my wife is tired of watching it sit in the garage, and probably dreaming of putting it out of it's misery :). The crash thankfully was offset to the right but the hood, fascia, radiator assembly and right fender have all been trashed. The fiberglass was slightly crushed in the front right but I still think it's possible to temporarily peice it back together until a permanent fix can be found. If anybody has any of these parts for sale (used prefereably) please E-Mail me privately
Hood (stamping releif lines only prefferably) Right Fender (passanger) Front Fascia Radiator Assembly (radiator, condenser, fans, any or all)
Thanks in Advance
Michael Robberts
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I work at Universal Studios Florida and the VIN # is SCEDT26TXBD006475. I'm trying every avenue to get the Delorean back to its original self. I've printed out the previous postings on how poorly the car is looking and gave them to Marketing and Guest Services. I've spoken to the Garage maintenance tech's but they are tired with dealing with the car. I've tried to join forces with the supervisors in the "Celebrity's" division. They are the look a likes of Doc Brown, Mark's Brothers, Ghost Busters ect... and each one of these characters has a vehicle in the parade except Doc Brown rides around on a bike. The response I get is there is no money in the budget set aside for it and its not a high priority
Jim
BondAtomic@aol.com wrote:
> All I know about the Back to the Future DeLoreans is that they are still > intact and they are on display in like California. > > John Feldman > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I work at Universal Studios Florida and the VIN # is SCEDT26TXBD006475. I'm trying every avenue to get the Delorean back to its original self. I've printed out the previous postings on how poorly the car is looking and gave them to Marketing and Guest Services. I've spoken to the Garage maintenance tech's but they are tired with dealing with the car. I've tried to join forces with the supervisors in the "Celebrity's" division. They are the look a likes of Doc Brown, Mark's Brothers, Ghost Busters ect... and each one of these characters has a vehicle in the parade except Doc Brown rides around on a bike. The response I get is there is no money in the budget set aside for it and its not a high priority <p>Jim <p>BondAtomic@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>All I know about the Back to the Future DeLoreans is that they are still <br>intact and they are on display in like California. <p>John Feldman <p>------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br>Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: <br>www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html <p>To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: <br>moderator@dmcnews.com <p>-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! <br>-- <a href="http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1">http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1</a></blockquote>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Amazinrick@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:51 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: BTTF DeLoreans--FINAL! :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hey everyone. Back in Feb. I think the DML actually figured out how many D's
were used in the movies, what happened to them, how many there were and
everything, so if anyone would like the compilation I made, feel free to
e-mail me. (Don't be surprised if you've been on the list a while and you
see something YOU contributed yourself!) Hope that helps...
~Rick
VIN--soon to have one in NJ!!
'55 Chevy :)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: BigJohn927@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:36:48 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: eBay Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It sounds like that seller is full of it. He probably put that on there to help sell it for a little more.
Thats just my 2 cents, Johnnie
In a message dated 11/4/99 3:10:05 PM Central Standard Time, porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com writes:
<< Has anybody seen one of the recent Deloreans posted on eBay claiming that the Delorean is one of the fasted production cars on the road? He said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can the Northstar Delorean even go 160MPH?? I e-mailed the seller and he says it goes well over 160MPH.
Bill >>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:54:31 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3821FD59.A990DF11@lorainccc.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Unanswered DeLorean Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It funny you post this, I was about to respond to Erik's question about the oil drain tool with a 'Check the archives' message, but wanted to see is someone else already posted it to the list.
Frankly, I dont think that the message volume should be a factor in deciding what messages to bounce... Especially when a topic (such as the oil drain plug) has been covered SO MANY TIMES.
I will go as far to say that if the question is so basic that it would be hard to believe that no one has asked it before, it should be bounced no matter what..
I mean no personal insult to Erik (he just happens to be my example--sorry!), but does he think he is the first person on the list to try and change his own oil??
So I say Erik please check the archives for the answer to your question.
To the moderators, No matter what the traffic, as I see larger numbers of messages that are just not worth my time to read, I will be more likely to start deleting. I think other list old-timers will agree.
And now, back to our regular show- Marc
Mike Substelny wrote:
<SNIP> > The reason they might not receive answers is because the topics have > already been covered extensively by the DML. Many subscribers will see > the repeat topic and immediately delete the question without > responding. If the DML were still running at a ridiculous pace (more > than 100 postings per day in September) I would try to discourage these > repeat topics. Right now there is room for them. <SNIP>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:18:13 -0800 From: jsight@pair.com Subject: [DML] Armrest Removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I've just started work on repairing the Window Regulator's and alignment on my Delorean, but am completely confused as to how to proceed. :(
I was able to successfully remove the upper trim panel on the door. That part was quite easy, so I thought that removing the lower assembly shouldn't be too bad, either. The instructions in the workshop manual say that you simply unscrew the mount bracket on the top, break loose the small plastic clamps on the bottom, unscrew the pull strap bracket with a long philips screwdriver, and pull the thing off.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, that long Philips screwdriver would need by about a foot long, as the bracket looks like it is extremely difficult to get too without having the armrest off (which, of course, is impossible without already having removed the pull handle:).
Anyway, suffice it to say, I am perplexed. Is there any easier way to go about removing this thing, as I can't imagine how you could every reattach the handle the way the book describes?
Thanks much,
Jess http://www.biddin.com/delorean/ VIN# 5220
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:25:38 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7vsn19$bqmj@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: eBay Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I dont think this is true... I see in the listing that he does claim to have a "corresponding speedometer". This would not be original, but he does not say that.
Maybe it was a windy day, and he had some sails tied to the roof!
Based on the gear ratio of a Delorean, I would expect that in 5th gear you would have to maintain about 6000RPM for 160MPH. That is assuming you could keep the car on the road at that speed.
I have had my twin turbo at 130MPH for a sustained 15 seconds (I have a 170MPH spedo). That was about the point that I started to feel on the edge of good control of the car.
160, I just dont think so. Maybe 160KMPH? I agree with Carson, he is Smokin' Crack!
I see the listing does not say he drove it 160MPH (Smart move.. Its not a selling point to say you dove a car like that!). The sellers claim is that it is RATED at 160MPH.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=193582183
The pictures look familiar.. Is it someone on the list?
porn_starr_bill@hotmail.com wrote: <SNIP> > said he got it to go over 160MPH with the stock engine! Its for sale > starting off at $15,000. 160MHP without any mods or turbos?!?! Can <SNIP>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:11:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Are these relay problems? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Which fans are you talking about ? The interior heater fan or the exterior cooling fans.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: DMC83in99@aol.com > > Last night was the first night I have gotten to really use my heater and the > fans for it. After doing this most of the day, I found that after cutting > the car completely off, the fans would run for 2 or 3 extra seconds. Also, > the horn quit working yesterday. > Scott > #16738
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:21:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Hesitation from the Line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Rich, This sounds like an acceleration enrichment problem. Try this test. Have an assistant turn the ignition key to the start position for just an instant and let the ignition key return to the ignition on position (You don't want the engine to start) while you listen for the frequency valve buzzing sound in the engine compartment. The buzz will only last about a second and a half. If you do not hear the buzz your frequency valve is not operating. This will cause a lean condition when you accelerate causing the condition you describe. Contact us directly for more details.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
> From: Rich Kula <rkula@landrum-brown.com> > > This morning I noticed some hesitation in 1st gear (5 speed with a single turbo) and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. I had to press the pedal all the way to the floor and once it hit 2000 to 2500 it seemed normal again. Just it seemed slower in getting there. The other gears and speeds seemed fine from an acceleration standpoint. Thanks for your support. > > Richard Kula > > #1460
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:11:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: relay for doors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Carson, I have had several inquires about this subject so I will publish this information at our website within the next couple of days. I will notify you when the information goes on line.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Carson Clark <cnsandog@yahoo.com> > > Why should we disconnect the lock feature? It is very nice to have. >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:22:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Instrument cluster case Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Erik, Binnacles, less instruments, are available from PJ Grady and DMC Houston for under $350.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com
> > Is it possible to just by the binnicle (is that how it is spelled) > without the instuments inside? Or do I have to buy it all in one > piece? All my instuments work GREAT...never a problem, but the grey > "hump" is cracked in many places from the sun. New ones from DMC > Houston cost $600+ for the whole thing. OR, does anybody know how to > cover up cracks...short term of coarse. I will replace it eventually. > thanks alot > > Erik Geerdink > 4512
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:31:25 EST From: "Josh S." <now.here@mindless.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Lockzilla Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Tod asked: "Where do you get Lockzilla, and how much do they cost?"
Lockzilla, (along with fanzilla [a replacment for the often problematic engine fan] and all of the excellent 'zilla products and apparently fiberglass headliners [pulled from a post to the DML a number of weeks ago, tho I havn't found them on their site] along with alot of other great products and improvments) are available from P.J. Grady. Their www site is: http://www.pjgrady.com
The cost is $389.00 for the entire kit plus a $25.00 core charge per door solenoid. Plus s/h etc.
-Josh S. vin: Not yet ... ------------------------------------- Have you ever noticed that the people who are always trying to tell you, "There's a time for work and a time for play," never find the time for play?
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:23:30 -0800 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] drivers front fender Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Just wanted to let everyone know that I know a guy who has an extra PERFECT CONDITION drivers side front fender. If anybody need one, let me know privately and I'll give you his e-mail address. he also has MANY MANY other needed Delorean parts.
I wish I had a stockpile of Delorean parts like this guy has.
Erik 4512
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:41:32 -0800 From: jrobbins@brit.ca In-Reply-To: <0.4c912c05.25533417@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Help a Canadian Out, eh! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
nbeatso-@aol.com wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=4311 > What about us poor unfortunates who live in the UK? Most of us have imported > our cars across the pond. You should think yourself lucky having the US as a > neighbour. Believe me that its probably a whole lot cheaper to ship a car up > to Canada than it is to get one across the Atlantic (and a bit quicker too!!!) > > Nigel > Vin 2677
Actually, I had a friend ship a car to Germany and it cost FAR less than what it cost me to import a car from the US. The Canadian government is insane with PST (8%), GST (7%) and duty (6.1%), plus the $2500 it cost me to ship it.
Frigging Canada.
J
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:44:13 -0800 From: jrobbins@brit.ca Subject: [DML] tow truck anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I locked myself out of my running delorean tonight. Keroist, what a nightmare. I had to call 2 tow truck drivers, and then finally a locksmith to open my doors.
The failure was strange, because my doors were not locked when I started the car and closed the doors. When I slammed the door closed, I heard the lock activate... and 2 hours later, with my car still running, I was finally able to get back into my car after a specialist came and slimjim'ed the door.
Lockzilla, here I come.
J
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:04:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Hesitation from the Line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Marc, The cold start valve's only function is to fire during the cranking process to aid in the starting of a cold engine. The modification you mentioned could result in premature combustion inside the turbo.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> > > I sometimes have this problem too when the engine is cold. Was it cold > when this happened? > > I suspect the problem is that with the turbos (I have twin turbos, so I > am assuming your setup is similar to mine) the cold start valve does not > work properly due to the lack of vacuum in the intake where the valve > (injector?) is located. My non-professional opinion would be that > because this extra shot of fuel is not being sucked in to the intake as > it normally should (because of the boost), the car hesitates. > > I have considered relocating the tube that the valve is in to a point in > the system before the turbos. On my car there is some space between the > throttle plate and turbo inlet (This is where the vacuum for the timing > control is taken from). This should be the point of highest vacuum in > the system under all driving circumstances (boost or not). I have some > reservations about trying this, and it may be a good time to present > questions to the list to see if there are any answers- > > - Is it OK to run a air/fuel mixture through the turbo? Currently no > fuel goes through the turbo and I worry that the fuel may damage the > turbo, and may even be a fire hazard. > > - The cold start valve assembly also includes two barbs for vacuum for > the PCV system, and fuel vapor recovery system. Will the contaminants > from those sources damage the turbo or be a fire hazard? > > - I had some others, but forget now :)
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:24:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: carpet stains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Westley's Bleche-White sprayed on a damp cloth is what we use to remove stains, grit, and grime from DeLorean carpeting.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > > Does anybody know of a GREAT product to get out tough stains on > carpet...for the Delorean of course! I took out my seats and I want to > give all the carpet area a good clean, and hopefully make them look > like new. Thanks > > Erik > 4512
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:34:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: power antenna Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The Metra Electronics PW12/PW12B power antenna from Auto Zone.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: thai vu <thaiqvu@yahoo.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Could anyone please let us know what aftermarket power > antenna will fit in the DeLorean (rear left), and > brackets, etc. > > Thanks > "tvwingz"
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 02:47:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: undercarriage cleaning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Ed,
You're almost completely correct. I do agree with your assessment of steam
cleaning the underbody, my description was based on a "shadetree" project.
However, I don't recommend steam cleaning the engine. As you know the spark
plug wells are very susceptible to water pooling unless the spark plug
boots are in good shape and properly installed. I have received lots of
reports
from owners who had their engines steam cleaned and than could not re-start
their cars for days.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 02:52:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Radio wires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Rob, The only wiring diagram for the radio multi-pin plug that I know of is the one I created several years ago. Unfortunately when we moved to our new location earlier this year it disappeared. Yours is the third request I have received just this week. Over the weekend I will pull one of the radios from our shop and draw up a new diagram.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Doc <doctor280@email.msn.com> > > Does anyone out there know the color codes of the wires that plug into the > Craig radio. I am replacing it with a Kenwood and knowing which wire goes > where would save me a lot of time. > > Robert Starling > Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 02:50:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Your reasoning is logical but when it comes to big business, if you want to attract serious money you must think and talk big. If JZD approached investors with a smaller project with conservative projections he would not have been able to raise the money he needed. Keep in mind that if it were not for some unexpected events the DeLorean could have been in production to this date.
Yes there was some bad decisions, like the Park Avenue offices and investing in other projects, but once again if the automobile market was not in such a deep slump things could have turned out much different.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: CBL302@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> if it became successful thus avoiding what "really" happened,too many cars > for the market to bear to keep the factory going,or at least KEPT the > spending down to reasonably minimum until it was profitable,in other words > do as Ferrari did,Small factory with a well built car,with a low volume > production,and a high price.I know he was under pressure from the British
> Gov. to produce cars,but that was a big mistake > between him and the British gov. to not have more that one type of car > produced,or at least a non-gullwing Delorean,and possibly a convertible > Delorean. > > Claude > 000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 02:53:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna Switcheroo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There is no room in the right front fender for a power antenna. Installing the rear mounted power antenna is not very difficult and looks much cooler.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Garrit Taylor <carlover53@hotmail.com> > > Id just like to know if it would be possible to get one of the automatic > antennas into the right front fender spot. I know the manual one is > supposed to go there, but it would be so much cooler if I could get my D to > have an auto antenna. Thanks in advance. > > Garrit Taylor > 7197
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: MG36@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:21:26 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Why JZD's lifestyle relevant?
As for twice in Belfast - a gross error, as were $50,000.00 paintings in NY office. Complete nonsense.
He did not buy his NJ estate prior to forming DMC, he bought it during his term at DMC , in approx. ''79 or '80.
Let's stick to the car, and lose this thread. MG36
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:36:13 +0000 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991029214354.47172.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean in BBC's "Watchdog" programme Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Stan,
Thanks for all your kind words, but credit must go to Chris Hawes for the capture - he has a better card than me, and a VCR that works!
Just to clarify, this switch is on all the "Euro-spec" cars.
Best Wishes,
Martin
Stian Birkeland wrote:
> It has a red switch in the middle, and according to Martin Gutkowski this is the > ONLY FACTORY INSTALLED SWITCH FOR FOGLIGHTS ON THE DELOREAN!
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:30:17 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991104161619.48075.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: History Channel Documentory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Claude wrote: > > and then Lotus just "cheapened" the Delorean by coping their Lotus Esprit >
Lotus did not "copy" the Esprit. Lotus had nothing to do with the design of the DeLorean, at least not the styling design. The DeLorean was designed and two prototypes were built in Detroit long before Lotus engineering got involved, about 2 years before. Giugiaro of Ital Design did the final design work in 1975 and built a full scale model according to his contract with DMC. Lotus engineering was hired by JZD in 1978 to do the production engineering work.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA USA
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:57:45 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19991104173102.3076.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Stereo and vents (tv) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There are four tabs in the corners of the vent above the radio, lift the tabs with a small pick or screwdriver. you can get the radio out through the vent without removing the console.
You will have more fun getting the vent back in. Check the archives for the proper procedure.. I doubt you get it back together without the proper procedure.
thai vu wrote: > How do we remove the center vents so the original > radio can be removed (easily)? > > Thanks, > "tvwingz"
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <19991104223802.42785.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19991104173102.3076.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:08:27 -0500 From: James Espey <james@usadmc.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Stereo and vents (tv) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What? This is ridiculous! And terribly, terribly incorrect!
Radio removal is VERY easy! Remove the center vents above the radio, and then reach behind the radio down from the footweel, there's a small nut in the center of the radio on a support that holds the radio. Remove it, and the knobs/nuts from the front of the radio. Push the radio back, and then remove it through the hole where the vents were earlier.
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
At 5:36 PM -0500 11/4/99, Danrc30 wrote: >You have to remove the center console in order to remove the radio properly. >----- Original Message ----- >> How do we remove the center vents so the original >> radio can be removed (easily)? >> >> Thanks, >> "tvwingz" >> >> ===== >>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Doc" <doctor280@email.msn.com> References: <7vni95$kjii@eGroups.com> <001901bf2625$498ebd40$edfe183f@computer> <38222860.D1BF5A90@elpaso.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:06:38 -0500 Subject: [DML] Re: Some questions for the doc, Zillas and antenas. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Some questions for the doc
Hi Robert, I'm new to the Delorean scene, and need some help. You seem to be the most informed person on the list, so I'm asking you first. I didn't want to post, because I would be embarrassed. But what are the lockzilla, fanzilla, and other zilla's everyone is always talking about? :) Where are they available from? Thanks a lot, Mike Schaefer p.s. I've already bought my first 81 Red DMC, and I'm picking it up on the 20th! I'm really excited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ These questions have come up on the list lately, so I will be taking just a little bit of your time to inform some of the new people on the list and maybe some help to the vets that are out there. First off Mike you have no reason to be embarrassed for asking something about the Delorean that you dont know. That is what this list is for and is where I gained a lot of my information. As far as you saying "You seem to be the most informed persons on the list", I am truly flatter, but I dont think that this is the case. (But I am working on it.) As we all know the Delorean was not produce long before the company went out of business, so the car never got developed and refined by the company. But we owners are fortunate to have people around that took on the task, such as Steve Wynne, Rob Grady and DMC Joe, just to name a few. Rob Grady took on some of the electric's that were a problem with the Delorean. The products that came from his and his employees work are called Zillas. They are designed to make the problem areas work as they should , by improving how they work and making them reliable. For more information check out : As for the antennas. The power antenna in the left rear of the Delorean was manufactured by Harada. Harada is still in business and can provide for your needs. They can supply a complete unit or just the mast. Most of the failures with the power antenna is in the mast and just buying this part can save you money over replacing the complete unit, that you might not require. Also the mast is offered in black (what came with the Delorean) or chrome.( looks great with the Delorean) I do not know how much room behind the front fender there is for a power antenna. But if someone could check it out, Harada may manufacture a power antenna that would fit. To contact Harada call 1-800- 442-7232 and ask for Mike. He was very helpful to me and I am sure that he will be more than glade to assist you. (If anyone does call Mike tell him that I clued you in and that I still have not received my black mast, he was going to sent me.)
Robert Starling Vin#5252
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC3309@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:56:46 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Radio fuse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The fuse next to your relay box is for your power antenna. You have two inline glass fuses in the radio wiring harness.
Robert Vin 3309
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Doc" <doctor280@email.msn.com> References: <19991104173102.3076.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> <19991104223802.42785.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:29:17 -0500 Subject: [DML] Re: Stereo and vents (tv) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> You have to remove the center console in order to remove the radio properly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------
NO NO NO......There is no need to do this. Mark is right on the money follow his instructions and save yourself some trouble.
Robert Starling Vin#5252 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------
There are four tabs in the corners of the vent above the radio, lift the tabs with a small pick or screwdriver. you can get the radio out through the vent without removing the console.
You will have more fun getting the vent back in. Check the archives for the proper procedure.. I doubt you get it back together without the proper procedure.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike $" <sheilaridez@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:02:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] One more antenna question :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi, I'm picking up my Red 81 on the 20th. One thing I noticed when test driving it was that the radio wouldn't pick up any stations. I inspected the car and found that there was no antenna, I've heard of a windsheild embedded antenna being offered, is that where mine is? Or was it just removed. There was no hole on it anywhere for the mast, but I suppose it could have beed filled before the car was painted. Thanks, Mike Schaefer p.s. Thanks to Doc, and everyone else for clearing up my recent questions.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC3309@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:03:24 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Stereo and vents (tv) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I think that the best way to remove and install a new radio is to remove the console. You have all the access you need and you dont have to worry about getting your vents back in right.
Robert Vin 3309
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:05:22 -0800 From: delorean502@excite.com In-Reply-To: <0.d60be031.255365a8@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Radio fuse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Me and another DMLer had the same problem until I found the fuse. to get to the fuse sit in the passenger seat and slide your hand under the center consols underside. right below the radio under the vinyle side there is going to be a place for two fuses. One controls the power, the other controls the saved radio stations. I hope this helps. let me know if you have any questions
erik 4512
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