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----------------------------------------------------------------- 5024. mike@mrcopies.com Removing Epoxy from the frame - need insight. 5025. eGroups.com Poll Results Voting Results: How did you first find out about 5026. Carororo@aol.com Re: Poll 5027. ROBLAMROCK@aol.com Re: United Kingdom DMC Registration? 5028. Delorean17@aol.com Removing fuel pump 5029. Martin Gutkowski Fwd: re: United Kingdom DMC Registration? 5030. Martin Gutkowski Fwd: RHD DeLoreans - Part 1 5031. Martin Gutkowski Fwd: RHD DeLoreans - Part 2 5032. William F. Lane Re: Push Starting 5033. Gus Schlachter Re: Service with a Frown 5034. Gus Schlachter Re: Turning Radius 5035. Luke Sandel Re: CUSTOMIZING THE DELOREAN 5036. DeLorean31@aol.com Re: CUSTOMIZING THE DELOREAN 5037. Dave Swingle Re: Removing Epoxy from the frame - need insight. 5038. Darryl Tinnerstet Re: engine detailing 5039. DMC Joe Re: Removing fuel pump 5040. CBL302@aol.com Re: RIGHT HAND DRIVE 5041. magriese@us.ibm.com Re: Squeeky right turns 5042. Danrc30 Re: RIGHT HAND DRIVE 5043. Mike $ door panel removal 5044. Erik Geerdink speakers 5045. James Espey Re: RIGHT HAND DRIVE 5046. Police6627@aol.com something easy -----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "mike@mrcopies.com" <mrcopies@jet2.net> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:36:27 -0600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Removing Epoxy from the frame - need insight. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF39B6.55AE9880" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Hey Gang!
One of the projects on the books this winter is to do a restoration on my D= elorean's frame. I'm not looking for concours here just need to be able to= patch the frame in the spots it requires and put the car safely on the roa= d.
I'd like to remove the epoxy from the frame and was wondering what the best= way is. Wire brush and some elbow grease? or can you do it chemically? = I know at one point someone had a webpage on this but I've been unable to l= ocate it on the archives.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks mike@mrcopies.com
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the car safely on the road.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I'd like to remove the epoxy from the f= rame and =
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:59:36 -0800 From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" <blast59@hotmail.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Voting Results: How did you first find out about the DeLorean? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Here are the results of the vote:
1. Worked for JZD 1 2. friend/family member owns one 2 3. Saw one pass me on the freeway 3 4. Media 8 5. other 9 6. BTTF 20
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From: Carororo@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:19:15 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Poll MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This will date me, but here goes.... Our 25th anniversary was approaching, and my husband wanted to buy me something silver. I had seen a billboard picture of the Stainless Beauty near Grand Rapids, Mi. SOOOOO, I told John I would take a Delorean for the event. The next think I knew, a salesman was calling me on the phone asking when I wanted delivery. I let out a shriek, and I have never calmed down.. Still think it is one of the most head-turning machines on the road. Carol Vin# 01552
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From: ROBLAMROCK@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:32:49 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: United Kingdom DMC Registration? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/27/1999 4:15:04 PM GMT Standard Time, ian@netvigator.com writes:
> Has anyone in UK / N.Ireland any recent experience of MOTing and Registering > their DeLorean. My LHD '81 DMC # 6425 is presently mid-Atlantic on her way > back home to N.Ireland. I think our system in N.Ireland is less strict than > the GB (especially some recent amendments in GB to deter Grey Imports?). I > want to sort out the MOT and Registration while I'm home in N.Ireland for > Christmas.
Ian, Unless the car has been previously registered in the United Kingdom then you will probably need E type approval first of all. This involves meeting all the current regulatory specifications and having the car meet these at a special test centre. Secondly to pass the MOT you certainly need to change over main beam lights (Valeo 5-27-001-39), and depending on which MOT centre you use you may have to re-wire front side quarter lights as signal indicators. You are also required to have a rear fog lamp. Instead of spoiling the rear bumper with an extra lamp it is possible to wire the outer brake light to double up. And finally the number plate has to be the correct size front and rear. Everything else is standard.... the MOT centre will check; seat belts, all lights, wipers, washer, overall condition of car, tyres, thorough inspection underneath, steering joints, test all brakes on rollers, and emission test. I passed my MOT just last week. Best wishes, Robert Lamrock Belfast
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From: Delorean17@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:11:04 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Removing fuel pump MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I removed the plastic panel to get to the fuel pump to check the seal. I
loosend the clamp and the fuel pump will move. I cant get it out all the way
to see if the seal is ok. should I remove the fuel lines coming from it?
there is also a few wires there. how should I go about removing the whole
pump without damaging anything. I would like to get this done when I get
out of school tomorrow! any suggestions? I was relieved when I smelled the
gas, it isnt too bad at all. If I find that the seal and pump look fine
should I attemp to start it?
hopefully she will start for the first time in 9 months.
Thanks
David, vin#2496-looking for owners in west michigan
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:04:54 +0000 From: Martin Gutkowski <dmc.12@connect-2.co.uk> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Fwd: re: United Kingdom DMC Registration? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Bob Aitchison wrote:
> Ian I made the following conversions for MOT 1. Replaced ALL FRONT > headlamps. I bought the Audi replacement kit from Dave. You may find > that you have some beam pattern in which case you may be able to get > away with tape but I don't recommend it. My headlamps had no pattern > so I just replaced them all. 2. Fogs You must have a rear fog. I cut > the rear pair to make two rear lights - I think an additional fog > looks messy. Purists (such as Martin) would argue for changing rear > intensity of the pair at the back - I think this is best but I did not > have time.I fitted an internal switch. Apart from that....NOTHING As > long as it meets UK emissions, breaks etc. there are no other > conversions as it has an mph speedo. Best Regards Bob
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:23:29 +0000 From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.gutkowski@connect-2.co.uk> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Fwd: RHD DeLoreans - Part 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This message has been cropped into two parts as it exceeded the e-groups limit.... (cheers for the info, Dave)
> Dear all, > > Chris Parnham is on the DML now, and sent this mail to me today, copied > on a mail to the DML, but unfortuately I need to let him know to turn > off HTML! This is a cracking read for anyone interested in our > "euro-spec" cars. > > Best Wishes, > > Martin > > Chris Parnham wrote: > > Dear David Knudson > > As a member of the De lorean Owners Association (USA) and > secretary and registrar of the De Lorean Owners Club (UK), and owner of > 4 original right hand > drive cars, I was surprised to see that you have stated in the > latest edition of De lorean World, that no RHD cars left the factory! > > There is no shame in saying I don't know, but you could have > first checked with your British cousins. > > If you check out Martin Gutlowski's web > site....www.delorean.co.uk you will see numerous photo's and > descriptions of about half of the known surviving > UK RHD examples. > > Some of these photo's taken earlier this month at the "NEC", > Britain's biggest and most prestigious Classic Car Show, where our club > displayed 4 RHD's and 3 > LHD's. on its "prize winning" stand. ( 2nd out of 520). > > As far as I know no "original" RHD cars ever made it to the other > side of the pond, so it perhaps not supprising how little is known about > them in States. > Indeed even in the UK apart from the ones I have recently > bought,( all previously one owner cars) only two others have changed > hands in the last 10 years or > so. > > One of America's leading De Lorean experts and concourse judge, > Steve Wynn, checked out the latest RHD "barn find" to turn up, "DUSTY", > this has only > got 4 miles on the clock, and has never been registered for road > use! > > Steve said that this is a "significant" car, in some ways as > "important" as the 2 GOLD cars! > He also said after checking out the car, that because of the > many and varied differences between this and the other RHD cars on > display, he was going to > have to "re-write" the rule book, about what is and is not > "original fitments"!..If we in the DOC ever get into "concourse"! > > What is an "original Right Hand Drive Car"?........My > interpretation is, one that left the De Lorean factory as such. > > All RHD cars are " conversions" in that, the plastic underbody > would have to have been re-designed and re-made in the footwell, and > spare wheel areas to be > a true "un-converted RHD". This never happened, the "under > bonnet" area's were cut out and re-made separately, the foot well area > was not altered, such, > that the pedals ( on manuals) seem a bit close together. > > There is no doubt that, depending whitch book you read between > 15-25 were "converted" to RHD for or by the factory. Of these about > 12/14 are thought to > survive. Some were used for testing purposes and were later > scrapped.
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:23:33 +0000 From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@delorean.co.uk> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Fwd: RHD DeLoreans - Part 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > It is known for sure that much of the development and > conversion > work was done in other parts of the UK, mostly at Woller-Hodeck in > Andover, but Lotus > and Girling were also involved. As this work was done FOR the > De > Lorean factory. It is legitimate to say these cars are FACTORY > ORIGINAL > cars. > > I would seem that the conversion work started and various and > different stages in the building of these cars, some were undoubtedly > complete LHD cars that > were "ripped apart", whilst some were taken off the production > line at an earlier stage, some had the hand brake already fitted on > the > "wrong" side, some did > not. etc. etc. > > Most (but not all) of these cars were given batches of > consecutive VIN and or registration numbers, one batch of 3 cars, > (registed by the factory) as AXI > 1697, AXI 1698, AXI 1699 (in Northern Ireland) were thought to > have had most of the conversion work performed in the Dunmurry > factory, > certainly they > differ from the other 10 by all having roof aerials ( radio > ante), no rear side markers ( or holes in the panels), small round > front > side markers, non-locking petrol > caps, one key to do everything,etc. etc. > > One other batch of Euro LHD/ RHD cars were mostly registered ( > > by the factory) with SIJ..... registration numbers, the vin numbers in > > the area of 012170 - 80 , > another batch still, has reg. numbers SJI..... What is certain, > > is that hardly any 2 RHD's are identical, they all show "evolutionary" > > differences, indeed some of > the last ones, sold by the receiver, (DUSTY for example) seem > to > have "any old" bits stuck on, just to get them "out of the door". > > As we all know the only parts actually made in the De Lorean > factory, were the plastic under bodies, the rest of the car was > sourced > from other manufactures > and suppliers and "assembled" in the factory. In my opinion > this > makes all of the "left the factory as RHD's" just as legitimate, if > not > considerably rarer, than > the more normal left hand drives. > > There are further cars, that have been converted " post > factory". > as long as this has been done well, I cant see anything wrong with > this, > if it encourages the > "safe" use and enjoyment of driving, what in my opinion, is > one > of the best and most distinctive cars in the world! > > I am currently researching all of the right hand drive cars by > sending out questionnaires, talking to former factory employees, > searching documents etc. and > will, hopefully, next year publish a book detailing the > differences between all the RHD cars, wether "Factory originals" of > post > factory conversions. Any > owners who contact me with useful info will eventually receive > a > "complementary" signed copy of the book. > > All contributions gratefully received, > > Chris Parnham chrisparnham@cwcom.net > > P.S. My black interior "AUTO" RHD (one of only 2 RHD automatics > > made) with just 1,600 kilometres on the clock, is for sale, thanks to > the "unexpected " > arrival of "DUSTY"! ....Price £23,000...so if any of you rich > > chaps out there want a unique car, get in touch.
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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:35:36 -0500 From: "William F. Lane" <blane@netunlimited.net> References: <0.a8d3c6aa.25720fbd@aol.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Re:Push Starting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Everyone seems to forget that the Delorean uses an electric fuel pump. You can push the car till Doomsday but unless there is enough charge in the battery to run the pump, it just ain't gonna start!
Bill Lane vin 3635
Altomarine@aol.com wrote:
> I don't understand! No pushing a manual drive car to start? 'Splain please! > MHL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups.com Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/ > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
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From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus@austin.rr.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:19:45 -0600 In-Reply-To: <19991128062034.XLSI1865@delorean> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Service with a Frown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm sure you're right, Joe, but I had that discussion with them, and they didn't care how easy or difficult it was...they simply weren't going to touch it. They said they wouldn't work on Porsches, either, which is saying a lot. Thanks to Michael Dell, there are quite a few Porsches-per-capita here in Austin.
This oil-change place wouldn't even work on the new VW Bugs! So I don't feel like I have an "orphaned" car.
Gus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMC Joe [mailto:DMCJOE@att.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 12:13 AM
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Service with a Frown
>
>
> Gus,
>
> You will find that most quick oil change places will change your oil once
> you tell them that the engine is the same as a Volvo 760 V-6.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
>
> ----------
> > From: Gus Schlachter <gus@austin.rr.com>
> >
> > I understand that the Delorean is an unusual vehicle and that
> others have
> > had problems getting service, but I never knew it would be difficult to
> get
> > an oil change. My local "Kwik Lube" absolutely refused to touch my car
> > today, even for a state inspection. Why? "They're too expensive if
> > something goes wrong." They were unimpressed when I told them that the
> DMC
> > was actually cheaper than the other cars of mine that they've worked on,
> and
> > equally unimpressed when I informed them that those other cars would not
> be
> > returning.
> >
> > Fortunately, I found a Texaco down the street that was more
> than happy to
> > work on it. They thought my being there was odd since they'd
> had another
> > Delorean in a few weeks ago (anyone here?) for service. I was a little
> > concerned at first ("Sure we'll work on a Delorean, it's just a
> > Chrysler...") but the service manager assured me that they knew
> what they
> > were doing. In fact, they knew about the female oil-drain plug and
> offered
> > to drill it and replace it with a standard one, but I opted not. Of
> course,
> > the tech doing the inspection looked in my trunk for the engine....
> >
> > Gus Schlachter
> > Austin, TX
> > VIN# 4695
>
>
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From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus@austin.rr.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:26:55 -0600 In-Reply-To: <0.a1c870e6.2572a7dc@aol.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Turning Radius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Scott,
I'm probably just spoiled. My other car is a Miata and could run a skidpad test on a freebee. :-) When I first started driving the D, perpendicular parking turned into a 3-point maneuver!
Gus
> -----Original Message----- > From: DMC83in99@aol.com [mailto:DMC83in99@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 9:44 AM > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Turning Radius > > > Gus- > > I've never experienced a rubbing of tires, and I've turned mine as far as > possible. But if you think the DMC has an inadequate turning > radius, try a > new camaro. It's like steering a battleship. > > > Scott > #16738 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > >
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:22:00 -0800 From: "Luke Sandel" <luke.sandel@cmich.edu> In-Reply-To: <81p8g8$llem@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: CUSTOMIZING THE DELOREAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> or anything but little things. i am personaly putting custom seat > covers in my d. the original factory seat covers are in great shape,
On the thread of seat covers, has anyone found fitted seat covers besides the sheepskin covers? The seat cover style that I thought would best match the DeLorean's appearance are the Wet Okole (www.wetokole.com) seat covers, but they don't make any for the D. I emailed them about creating a set for a bulk order, but I didn't get any response.
So, has anybody found any alternatives? I like the look of the original leather seats, but they seem too prone to wear.
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From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:47:47 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: CUSTOMIZING THE DELOREAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/28/99 11:27:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, rapparivarat@erols.com writes:
<< To a true DeLorean enthusiast, "customizing" a DeLorean is akin to taking the Lord's name in vain >>
Just remember what the Ultimate Customization did for the DeLoreans fame and notoriety. If it wasn't for the customized time machine in Back To The Future, the DeLorean would probably be as well known as the Bricklin or the DeTomaso is as stated earlier this week on the DML. I know the majority of the comments I get from people are related to the movie and in most cases that the only reason they knew the car. In fact most know nothing else about the car or its production history. I think any owner should do whatever he or she wants to make their D special to them. I prefer to keep mine original. But I enjoy seeing some of the customized ones at shows too. The Cincinnati show had some of the best examples I have ever seen.
Gary
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:57:15 -0800 From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@enteract.com> In-Reply-To: <003501bf39e8$a13404c0$0b4addd8@mrcopies> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Removing Epoxy from the frame - need insight. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"mike@mrcopies.com" <mrcopie-@jet2.net> wrote: > One of the projects on the books this winter is to do a restoration on my Delorean's frame. I'm not looking for concours here just need to be able to patch the frame in the spots it requires and put the car safely on the road. > I'd like to remove the epoxy from the frame and was wondering what the best way is. Wire brush and some elbow grease? or can you do it chemically? I know at one point someone had a webpage on this but I've been unable to locate it on the archives.
Depending on how much you have to do, and where it is, removing the old epoxy is done in a combination of ways. 1 - scrape off with screwdrivers 2 - A small propane torch, if you can get everything out of the way, really speeds things up.
Don't bother with chemical strippers, in my experience they can't get through the epoxy.
If you are stripping the entire frame, the best thing I have heard was a full chemical or hot galvanizing dip (Bruce Benson had this done many years ago). This is difficult since there are many closed in areas, and the epoxy tends to come off but get trapped as gooey globs inside the frame that you can't get out.
Here's the link back to DMCNews for the article on this.
http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/framepaint.htm
Dave
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:45:46 -0800 From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@techline.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: engine detailing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Someone recently asked about how you could detail the engine in a DeLorean. While I was detailing the Chevy motor in my supercharged car a few years ago, I decided to also do the turbo motor in my other project DeLorean. Since the engine is all aluminum it lends itself well to polishing, so I had the timing cover, water pump, valve covers, oil pan, intake manifold, turbo pipes, etc. polished and all the steel brackets, pulleys, and injection line bolts chrome plated. I also routed the injection lines behind the manifold and the wiring under it instead of over the top like stock. Unused holes in the manifold were filled, and I planned to use a custom air cleaner. Look in the e-groups vault under "chromed & polished engine" (also check out "superchargedChevyDMC").You will also note in the photos the one-piece mirror stainless steel panel covering the 3 sides of the engine bay (it looks dull because the plastic protective film is still on it). Both of my cars have that and it really lights up the engine compartment. I've also just added a rear quarter photo of the Chev powered car showing the air cleaner just peeking out thru the louvers, and the chrome stock wheels.
If anyone is interested, I have one more of the one-piece mirror stainless engine bay panels available, for $250 plus shipping. For the record this project car was just sold (I think; haven't seen the $ yet).
-- Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive 4 LaBelle Lane McCleary, WA 98557 PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:23:02 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Removing fuel pump MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
David, If the gas smells O.K. and the pump and boot look like there in good shape it should be safe for you to start the engine.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Delorean17@aol.com > > Hello, > I removed the plastic panel to get to the fuel pump to check the seal. I > loosend the clamp and the fuel pump will move. I cant get it out all the way > to see if the seal is ok. should I remove the fuel lines coming from it?
> there is also a few wires there. how should I go about removing the whole > pump without damaging anything. I would like to get this done when I get > out of school tomorrow! any suggestions? I was relieved when I smelled the > gas, it isnt too bad at all. If I find that the seal and pump look fine > should I attemp to start it? > > hopefully she will start for the first time in 9 months. > > Thanks > > David, > vin#2496-looking for owners in west michigan
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From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:53:21 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: RIGHT HAND DRIVE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 11/26/99 9:43:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, webmaster@delorean.co.uk writes:
<< Definitely. To reiterate from above: ALL RHD CARS ARE CONVERSIONS. The body-tub was never designed to take a RHD version. Check for the hole from the steering column on the left, for eg. >>
That is weird,because if you look in the in the Black Brochure,(the one with the fold-outs)you will see a picture of a Black body on a tellis carrier that IS a right hard drive,with the gas fill bump out (where the gas cap goes) on what is the passenger side,you could even make out the big rubber gas fill hose that goes to the gas tank.THAT is absolute proof that RHD DRIVE black grp bodies were made,and right hand cars were made at the DMC factory.One picture says a thousand words.
Claude 000570
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From: magriese@us.ibm.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:29:48 -0600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Squeeky right turns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Burke wrote:
>My Delorean has also developed what I would call a 'groan' coming from the front end when turning. The 'groan' can also be felt through the steering wheel.<
There is a rubber bushing that the steering column passes through at the front bulkhead. The groaning is caused by the column rubbing on an aged bushing. Some WD-40 is a short-term solution, replacing the bushing is the long-term solution. This is a common problem.
Michael A. Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30@hotmail.com> References: <0.34f07ae9.25737ce1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:06:26 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: RIGHT HAND DRIVE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Claude, I see the picture you are talking about. But don't you think that it just could be a printing error in that they printed the picture backwards? (I think they did it on that DeLorean they took a picture of for that poster. From what I've heard, it was a RHD car that was printed backwards.) I've seen such mistakes made on other advertisements as well. I saw it on a motorcycle ad, and even the writing on the tank was backwards!!! Since there are no markers like writing or a clock in the picture, there is no way to tell if the picture is backwards or not. ---Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: <CBL302@aol.com> To: <dmcnews@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 1:53 AM Subject: [DML] Re: RIGHT HAND DRIVE
> In a message dated 11/26/99 9:43:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > webmaster@delorean.co.uk writes: > > << > Definitely. To reiterate from above: ALL RHD CARS ARE CONVERSIONS. The > body-tub was never designed to take a RHD version. Check for the hole from > the > steering column on the left, for eg. >> > > That is weird,because if you look in the in the Black Brochure,(the one with > the fold-outs)you will see a picture of a Black body on a tellis carrier that > IS a right hard drive,with the gas fill bump out (where the gas cap goes) on > what is the passenger side,you could even make out the big rubber gas fill > hose that goes to the gas tank.THAT is absolute proof that RHD DRIVE black > grp bodies were made,and right hand cars were made at the DMC factory.One > picture says a thousand words. > > Claude > 000570 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1 > > >
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From: "Mike $" <sheilaridez@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:29:27 GMT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] door panel removal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi, I need to fix my windows (I'm doing the $5 fix for now), but I would like to know the proper way of taking apart the interior panel of the door first. I didn't want to just jump in and break something :) Could someone explain the proper procedure, or direct me to a web-page explaining how to do this? Thanks in advance, Mike Schaefer vin 01118
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:40:12 -0800 From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@excite.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] speakers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anybody know how to get to the back speakers to replace them?
Erik 4512
CO was great! Breck needed more snow though :(
Thanks to everyone who responded to my post even though I didn't get a chance to visit anybody when I was out there. 4512 will travel out there in 2001
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:38:46 -0800 From: "James Espey" <james@usadmc.com> In-Reply-To: <0.34f07ae9.25737ce1@aol.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: RIGHT HAND DRIVE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
cbl30-@aol.com wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=5040 > That is weird,because if you look in the in the Black Brochure,(the one with > the fold-outs)you will see a picture of a Black body on a tellis carrier that > IS a right hard drive,with the gas fill bump out (where the gas cap goes) on > what is the passenger side,you could even make out the big rubber gas fill > hose that goes to the gas tank.THAT is absolute proof that RHD DRIVE black > grp bodies were made,and right hand cars were made at the DMC factory.One > picture says a thousand words. > > Claude > 000570
All it says is that some guy at the printer flipped the negative when the color separation was made - it's an easy mistake, and having had worked in the printing industry for many years - it happens all the time...
James
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From: Police6627@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:40:20 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] something easy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
need some cheap advise, here is the problem:
i have an 82 automatic delorean that normally runs fine. lately after a small drive i turn if off and it will not restart for about five minutes. it turns over fine but just turns and turns and then about five minutes later i come back and it starts fine. also when it idles the engine noise goes up and down for about three minutes then maintaines a happy medium. any suggestions....
mike leising sugarland, tx vin 11288
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