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----------------------------------------------------------------- 4044. mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com Re: PJ Grady 4045. Dave Stragand DMC = Disassembled Motor Car 4046. Mike Substelny Libraries and Stainless Steel Illusion 4047. cnsandog(AT)yahoo.com DMC year...important? 4048. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Re: PJ Grady 4049. James Espey Struts that dampen opening shock 4050. Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Re: DeLorean in Year 2000 Calendar 4051. James Espey Cars sold outside normal channels 4052. William T Wilson Re: DMC year...important? 4053. Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Re: DMC = Disassembled Motor Car 4054. Mrgolf77(AT)aol.com Fuel system cleaning 4055. Murray Fisher DeLorean Related books 4056. Mail Master Re: Libraries and Stainless Steel Illusion 4057. dcsj(AT)excite.com Re: Struts that dampen opening shock 4058. Comet42483(AT)aol.com Louvers 4059. KnightJRL(AT)aol.com Re: DMC = Disassembled Motor Car 4060. Duke plutonium suit for halloween 4061. mike(AT)mrcopies.com Bill Collins - Great Interview...thanks for the h 4062. Brian Henderlong Zilla products 4063. dcsj(AT)excite.com Question for Bruce Benson 4064. BondAtomic(AT)aol.com DeLorean Screensaver 4065. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com Re: DMC = Disassembled Motor Car 4066. CBL302(AT)aol.com Re: door lift pistons 4067. dcsj(AT)excite.com Re: Fuel system cleaning -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Check http://www.pjgrady.com/ for Lockzilla pricing.
I talked to Rob and Debbie at the DOA Expo in St. Louis. He had prototypes of the remote control and door actuator on display. No firm pricing set yet, especially on kit vs. piece price. They are still doing final testing to make sure there aren't any problems with the setup according to Debbie. She said that they will probably start selling them in the late winter time frame. She also said that they are just a plug in setup, so you can use them with an existing Lockzilla setup with no modification.
Hope this helps.
Mark N
"j.d. robbins" <jrobbin-(AT)brit.ca> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=4043 > > Does anyone have info on PJ Grady's Lockzilla product <snip> > I've heard a rumour that Lockzilla will soon have a door opening > actuator and a remote control? >
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:23:25 -0400 From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand(AT)ketchum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DMC = Disassembled Motor Car Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Well,
I finally got my D home last Saturday... She's VIN #5127; an '81 with 5-speed, grey interior, and a lined hood (no gas flap).
It wasn't the easiest chore to dig the car out of the shed it has been buried in the last 9 years, but we managed. It had been stored rather poorly... lots of the parts are damaged due to poor storage & handling. In fact, if you are planning on storing a car, two things to avoid putting in it are a bail of fiberglass insulation & a ten pound bag of Puppy Chow. It was a veritable rodent resort town.
The three of us that were trying to lift the pontoon & frame up into the body just couldn't quite get it off the ground. That posed quite a challenge as we had to lift it up into the 24' U-Haul truck I rented to get her home. We eventually had to use a roll-back truck to drag the unit across the floor and up onto the rollback, then position the rollback to slide the unit into the truck. Ouch.
Getting it out was a bit easier, as we had six people, and also noticed that the pontoon was in fact not even bolted to the frame. Made for pretty easy lifting when separated.
We manuevered it all into my garage and I started to work. Here's my preliminary shopping list:
- all new lines, both fuel and brake. - 4 new brake calipers - all new carpets - front and rear glass - new headliners - new inside rearview mirror - all new weatherstripping
But it isn't too bad, I keep telling myself. I'm just at the initial "I bit off more than I can chew" stage. I decided to start small by cleaning the pontoon and organizing the interior parts inside. I then hung the body panels on the car with a couple of bolts each just to get them out of the way. Doing these things made me feel a bit better. I then put the binnacle on the dash, and when I looked at the odometer, I nearly cried.
The car has 1721 miles. And four-tenths. Now maybe that's 101,721.4 ... I'm afraid to ask, but so far everything on the car seems to support that the only wear & tear is that caused by poor storage. Whatever sparked the previous owner to take the car apart that completely will always boggle me...
Sigh... I have my work cut out for me. My first 'real' work on the car involved climbing under the front frame to chip away broken epoxy, wire brush, and then coat the metal with Rust Reformer. I bought several cans of Rustoleum Machine Gray (but I need the Dark. not the light) and plan to paint the affected areas as correctly as I can, but I realize I'll never get them perfect. I'm on something of a timeline. I need to have the car assembled enough to sit outside by Christmas, as I need to get my '58 Plymouth out of the elements as soon as possible.
I realize that while under both my time and monetary constraints, I will never have a concours-quality D. The undercarriage will have to be a bit ugly, and I'll have to 'make do' with a lot of non-perfect pieces. I intend to focus my energies into the car's exterior and replacing lots of the interior. Having the car look good at least will help stop me from panicking about the scope of this project. I had a bad spot last night, where I just imagined myself selling the car piece by piece on eBay... potentially making enough money to buy a car in better shape... but I guess I'll just try to hang in there & build the best car I can with the resources I have. I can't expect anything more of myself than that.
-Dave Stragand -Pittsburgh, PA -VIN 5127
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:41:13 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199910190229.UAA10193(AT)cmn.net> <008a01bf1ea7$736a9600$66e0aec7(AT)gandalf> <3814A60C.2CBDC4E1(AT)mindspring.com> <000d01bf1f30$8d133240$58b935cf(AT)compaq> Subject: [DML] Libraries and Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Personally, I am 100% opposed to Murray's method of acquiring a copy of Stainless Steel Illusion.
When I was shopping for a sports car, it was a copy of SSI from a local library that convinced me that the DeLorean was the car for me. I would like more people to have the opportunity to learn about the DeLorean the way I did. It is patently obvious to me that every copy of SSI that is available in a public library is beneficial to the DeLorean marque, and every copy that leaves a public library to land on a private bookshelf diminishes the value of the DeLorean marque.
Sometimes when I mention to local DeLorean owners that our county library system owns a copy of SSI they immediately begin to concoct schemes of how they can acquire it for themselves. As you might imagine, this immature selfishness makes me angry.
Although I own most of the DeLorean books, I do not own a copy of SSI. I already know what it says, and if I ever need to refer to it I can go back to the library. As long as it remains in the library, others have the chance to discover the DeLorean for themselves.
Back when James Espey was trying to produce a reprint of SSI, I intended to buy a large number of copies and donate them to library systems across the country. Too bad his plan never played out, it would have been a good thing for the DeLorean marque.
- Mike Substelny
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:29:59 -0700 From: cnsandog(AT)yahoo.com Subject: [DML] DMC year...important? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just bought my DMC two weeks ago and quite enjoy it, as a matter of fact I have driven it every day! It is an 1983 VIN 16367, with only 35,000 on it, plus a copy of Stainless Steel Illusion in the trunk! (which i just found out yesterday is a rare book)
I see most of the post are from people who have very low VIN numbers. Is that more desireable? When I was looking for one to purchase I was looking for a higher VIN because of the old saying "first -worst, last best".
When I was searching for a DMC to buy I only found a few of the higher vin numbers out there?
Dont worry, it wont brake my heart to find out that the last ones made are not coveted like the earlier models! ;-)
I love mine...
C
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:08:20 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: PJ Grady Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/26/99 10:03:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jrobbins(AT)brit.ca writes:
<< Anyways, Lockzilla comments? >>
I just recently installed the Lockzilla in my DMC this past summer. In fact the one I installed is their new unit which has the built in plug for Rob's new remote system if you wish to add it now or later. I also bought the remote unlocking module he sells which plugs right into the Lockzilla. It comes with a four button remote for future add ons and has the DMC logo on it. Looks great. Rob is still ironing out the little imperfections with the remote door opening system. I did see his prototype openers on his green DeLorean the last time I was at his shop. They will definitely be an attention getter at shows. I have the remote door unlock option which has worked well. When the door opener is ready it will simply be added to the remote as the buttons are already there for it. There is also a button for a remote trunk release as well which he plans to produce. As with the Fanzilla and the other Zilla products, the Lockzilla works flawlessly. In my opinion both the Fanzilla and the Lockzilla are a must for any DeLorean. However I would call PJ Grady directly for further information. Rob is always willing to answer any questions you may have. Hope this helps.
Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic VIN 3360
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <940895684.22915.840(AT)excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:29:26 -0500 From: James Espey <james(AT)usadmc.com> Subject: [DML] Struts that dampen opening shock Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 6:54 PM -0500 10/25/99, dcsj(AT)excite.com wrote: >Yes ,the LIFT-O-MAT struts are still availiably as new manufactured units. >I saw all 6 struts at the St louis expo . Don Steger of Delorean Motor >Center in California sells the NEW units. > >Basicly the same price as all the other vendors. Btw: the manufacturer is >Stabilus, Its in small print on the side of the strut housing > >Don told me he is also trying to get the manufacturer to make a set of door >struts that dampen the last 25% of the opening stroke, to help ease the >strain from the more abrupt opening shock, > >Hope this helps, Dennis VIn 5180
The fact that the Lift-O--Mat struts do NOT have this dampener are the reason that we do not sell those at DMC (Houston). I wasn't aware of how big of a difference that dampening feature made until I replaced my old struts with some from Don this spring in Phoenix. Once it got warmer, the doors would seemingly fly open, causing a significant "bounce" at the top of their travel. This is really hard on the door hinges, and when I got to Houston, I mentioned it to our mechanic, Bill. he replaced them with a set of our struts, that have the dampening valve in them and the problem was solved. When the door is opened, once the door reaches about 75-80% of its travel, the valve kicks in and slows the door down so that when it reaches the top of it's travel, it's moving slowly enough that there is no "bounce".
Stabilus has shown no interest in creating their strut with a valve for such a small market, so we have stuck with our current supplier.
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:54:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean in Year 2000 Calendar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I checked their web page (CSK) and they are located only west of the Mississippi, I left a request for their calendar, if I get an address I'll forward it to the news so that the folks over here on the east coast can get a copy!!
no vin/no De Lorean, maybe someday
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:07:05 -0500 From: James Espey <james(AT)usadmc.com> Subject: [DML] Cars sold outside normal channels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In addition to cars that were sold by authorized DeLorean dealerships, there were some cars that were sold through other channels. I am aware of the following:
- Some DeLoreans were sold at auction by the firm that transported them from the factory to the docks (a little help here, Rob Lamrock?). How many cars and their specifics are unknown to me, as well as their whereabouts now.
- When the contents of the factory were auctioned off, several cars were auctioned, too. Acording to the auction program, they were:
0717, automatic LHD 0513, automatic LHD 0796, manual LHD 0529, automatic LHD 0534, manual LHD 0510, manual RHD
And something described as "a Model Pilot 25" , manual LHD - I'm guessing that this is a preproduction or prototype car? Rob, again?
- I just got a list of a LOT of very early cars that were sold by a "Chestnut Fleet Rental", they appear to be the cars that are shown on an internal memo as "Company Assigned DeLoreans".
- And finally, I think Consolidated International sold some DeLoreans in 1983.
Any others?
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:23:05 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson <fluffy(AT)snurgle.org> In-Reply-To: <7v4rv7$l6ro(AT)eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC year...important? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 cnsandog(AT)yahoo.com wrote:
> I see most of the post are from people who have very low VIN numbers.
There are more '81s than there are '82s and '83s combined.
> Is that more desireable? When I was looking for one to purchase I was
Not really. The only differences are cosmetic - the differences in the hood styling, or the two-tone interior available on the '83s.
> looking for a higher VIN because of the old saying "first -worst, last > best".
That may have been true initially, but at this point the primary difference in the quality of the car will be how it has been maintained over the years.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:22:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC = Disassembled Motor Car Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dave in Pittsburgh : I've found that a great storage cover can be made of EDPM rubber, thats the stuff they use on roofs, it's UV resistant and tough, just contact a local roofer and see if they have a piece you can have that will cover your car, I use it quite a lot due to limited space in the shop.
Reggie in Norfolk, Va.
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Mrgolf77(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:59:53 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Fuel system cleaning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I recently purchased an 81 DeLorean. The car has been sitting for about
a year since the last time it was started. I have heard starting the car
after it has been sitting is the worst thing you can do. Is there a site
that has complete directions on cleaning an entire fuel system? I have never
cleaned a fuel injection system, should I atemp to clean it myself? I am
pretty good with mechanics. I just dont want to wreck anything. I should
probably clean the tank out while am at it too.
any information would be greatly apprecited.
Thanks vin#2496
David,
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)hscis.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:11:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean Related books Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF1FBB.EF8CF100" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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In my quest to find ALL of the De Lorean related books, I found one recen= tly that is not really that interesting to most people, but it sort of fits= to a very lesser extent. It is by John De Loreans Ex wife. It is called= "Cristina Ferrare Style" (How to have it in every part of your life). Co= pyright 1984. It is not an automotive book but does show you what their li= fe style was and how the family lived. There are lots of pictures in color= , but mostly of Cristina (She WAS a world famous model of course) and a few= with both of them and some of them with their children Kathryn and Zachary= . Zachary had his walls covered with large photos of the De Lorean car It = is about many things which my wife says are outdated now! Parties, Decorat= ing, food, diets etc. A few comments like one that quoted "when my husband= was arrested" but no De Lorean auto stories. =
I got it via Amazon. I had it ordered for over a year before they notifie= d me, and had forgotten about it. The cost was $6.00! Not in the class o= f SSI of course.
FWIW Department.
Murray Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mail Master" <boss(AT)woodgreenschool.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:38:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3815BD89.8A3746ED(AT)lorainccc.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Libraries and Stainless Steel Illusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike,
I disagree with your comments - Murray has shown admirable enterprise and I for one congratulate him on securing a valuable item for much less than it's worth. I know a lot of people (not necessary DeLorean owners, simply people of such morals) who would have no hesitation in stealing a book they know to be valuable from a public library. Murray negotiated a price so that both parties were happy with the transaction.
As for the detrimental value to the DeLorean marque from this sale - personally, I know of no-one whose interest in DeLorean's stemmed from finding "Stainless Steel Illusion", in fact quite the opposite is apparent - it is the established DeLorean enthusiasts who most desire this book. The marque itself can credit it's infamy mainly to the Back to the Future films for younger fans and the 80's DeLorean scandal.
You say that you do not own a copy of this book, and your message smacks of sour grapes. Maybe Murray would consider selling his copy to you? Then you could donate it to whatever library you feel fit...
Regards,
Tris Harvey-Rice ----- laddie(AT)globalnet.co.uk
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj(AT)excite.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:04:05 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Struts that dampen opening shock Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:29:26 -0500, James Espey wrote:
> At 6:54 PM -0500 10/25/99, dcsj(AT)excite.com wrote: > >Yes ,the LIFT-O-MAT struts are still availiably as new manufactured units. > >I saw all 6 struts at the St louis expo . Don Steger of Delorean Motor > >Center in California sells the NEW units. > > > >Basicly the same price as all the other vendors. Btw: the manufacturer is > >Stabilus, Its in small print on the side of the strut housing > > > >Don told me he is also trying to get the manufacturer to make a set of door > >struts that dampen the last 25% of the opening stroke, to help ease the > >strain from the more abrupt opening shock, > > > >Hope this helps, Dennis VIn 5180 > > The fact that the Lift-O--Mat struts do NOT have this dampener are the > reason that we do not sell those at DMC (Houston). I wasn't aware of how > big of a difference that dampening feature made until I replaced my old > struts with some from Don this spring in Phoenix. Once it got warmer, the > doors would seemingly fly open, causing a significant "bounce" at the top > of their travel. This is really hard on the door hinges, and when I got to > Houston, I mentioned it to our mechanic, Bill. he replaced them with a set > of our struts, that have the dampening valve in them and the problem was > solved. When the door is opened, once the door reaches about 75-80% of its > travel, the valve kicks in and slows the door down so that when it reaches > the top of it's travel, it's moving slowly enough that there is no "bounce". > > Stabilus has shown no interest in creating their strut with a valve for > such a small market, so we have stuck with our current supplier. > > James Espey
James thanks for the added info . However Don did tell me that the manufacturer has already made him a prototype set for him to try out . Perhaps they have changed there position on small market production runs. He said that in his conversations with the developement dept., that they were willing to make him anything he wanted. I guess only time will tell. btw. only the LIFT-O-MATS are truly concours' correct !
Speaking of concours' correct items The bosch wipers blades were not the only ones used on the car. If you remember back in 96 when you visited the warehouse they had several items for sale that were steeply discounted, one of the items were wiper blades. These units had no manufacturer markings on them any where. Also their method of attachment was different than the bosch units I had on my car. They had a pin that protruded from the side of the pivot point. I guess they used a different brand in later production cars . Anyway I bought them and consider these to be OEM concours' correct also. You might want to check them out for what its worth.
Dennis
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Comet42483(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:45:22 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Louvers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What are the louvers made out of?, the second level down has a chip on it, and it looks like meatal under it, but i thought the louvers were plastic?
Thank you Trevor Johnson #6974
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: KnightJRL(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:48:16 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC = Disassembled Motor Car Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/26/99 9:14:09 AM Hawaiian Standard Time, dave.stragand(AT)ketchum.com writes:
> I realize that while under both my time and monetary constraints, I will > never have a concours-quality D.
> I had a bad spot last night, where I just imagined myself selling the car > piece by piece on eBay... potentially making enough money to buy a > car in better shape...but I guess I'll just try to hang in there & build the > best car I can with the resources I have. I can't expect anything more > of myself than that.
Dave,
I think that sometimes a Concours D is highly overrated. I know it's
been defended to the death, but sometimes I feel like a Concours D might not
be the safest on the road. To me it seems more worthwhile to own a DeLorean,
practically constructed from one's own two hands. That would hold more worth
in the vehicle than anything else. At least in aesthetic and sentimental
value. The worth of a fully restored D can run between thirty and
fifty-thousand dollars. The worth of a D built up by one's self, and almost
literally from scratch is priceless.
More into the actual substance of the topic, why would you leave your D
to sit outside and bear the harsh elements, in its already depreciated (used
to illustrate only) state? Wouldn't that be likened to sending a dying man
out to meet the firing squad? Don't mean to sound harsh, but it is a concern
I'd have for a D in the state yours is in. I'm sure you have good call, just
being the inexperienced D enthusiast I am, I'd like the info. Thanks.
Yukio Kahului, HI VIN# - still lookin
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:25:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] plutonium suit for halloween Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF1FF0.46FA8AE0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I know this is kinda off topic, but does anyone know where I can find a plu= tonium suit to wear for Halloween? I have a costume party to go to and tho= ught it would be neat to show up in the D wearing one.
Thanks in advance,
Duke
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can find a plutonium suit to wear for Halloween? I have a costume par= ty to =
go to and thought it would be neat to show up in the D wearing one.</FONT><= /DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks in advance,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Duke</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "mike(AT)mrcopies.com" <mrcopies(AT)jet2.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:57:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Bill Collins - Great Interview...thanks for the help. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01BF1FFD.22036CE0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Just wanted to thank the list for helping compile a bunch of questions for = Bill Collins. I went up to meet him last week and he was great!!
Told me some terrific stories and provided real insight into behind the sce= nes at the early Delorean Motor Company.
A great guy!!
Thanks again for the help,
mike(AT)mrcopies.com VIN #17089 Windsor, Onario
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compile a bunch of questions for Bill Collins. I went up to meet him = last =
week and he was great!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Told me some terrific stories and provi= ded real =
insight into behind the scenes at the early Delorean Motor Company.</FONT><= /DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>A great guy!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks again for the help,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A =
href=3D"mailto:mike(AT)mrcopies.com">mike(AT)mrcopies.com</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>VIN #17089</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Windsor, Onario</FONT></DIV>
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:02:56 -0400 From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1(AT)tampabay.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Zilla products Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
With all the DeLorean owners out there who have had troubles with their automatic transmission governors, it's a wonder that Rob hasn't come out with a "Trans-Zilla" by now...
Just a thought!
Brian Henderlong / no VIN yet! mailto:bhender1(AT)tampabay.rr.com http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj(AT)excite.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:03:37 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Question for Bruce Benson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Bruce, do you happen to know If Paul Curny still has his Delorean? Certain younger DML's might be interested in seeing photos of it in the photo gallery .
For the benefit of other list members. Paul customized his car by lowering it and installing ground effects . But the real interesting thing about his car, is the stainless steel wing he built for it . It closely resemblies the wing that was used on the lambroghini Countach . he also incorporated a full length LED brake light across the trailling edge of it.
Dennis Vin 5180
Duluth, MN
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: BondAtomic(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:39:16 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean Screensaver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear members,
I was wondering if anyone has a DeLorean screensaver, and if you do, if you could send it to me. If you do have one, please send it to me in a non-zip file. Thanks!
John Feldman
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:51:14 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC = Disassembled Motor Car Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have to agree with Yukio on this one.
Dave, when I bought my 83, it was not in the best shape. I had never seen
it, much less heard it run, or even knew if it did run. I bought this car
purely on a feeling I had that it was either now or never.
When they delivered the car to me, midnight on a Friday night, all I
could do was go over it with a flashlight. It glistened when the light hit
the grain right; it was definately the most beautiful sight I had ever seen.
The next morning, I started taking in the damage. Front and rear fascias
faded and chipping. Cracked binnacle. Bad gas struts. And most importantly,
it didn't run. Entire cold start process was dead. It was stuck in third
gear. That's when the infamous "I have bit off more than I can chew" thought
came into my mind. But I persevered.
It is now almost 2 months later. All major problems have been fixed.
She runs incredibly good for a car that had as much wrong with her as #16738
did. I went into this knowing this car needed much work as you did, and
trust me, the minute you finally get it on the road after all the work you've
done, you will know it's all worth it.
Scott #16738
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:06:53 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: door lift pistons Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 10/26/99 10:02:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jrobbins(AT)brit.ca writes:
<< I'm not a small guy, and I near crushed my head in when I was standing under the door at the moment I pulled out a pisto >> Number one rule when you do work on a Delorean door adjustment is to support the open door,I usually use a 2x4 wedged between the door and the ground,the door weights about 70 pounds.
Claude vin#000570
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X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj(AT)excite.com Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:13:09 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel system cleaning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If the car has only been sitting for a year, thats a little different than one that has been in storage for years . Depending on how much the car had been driven previously. Have you added any fuel to the tank yet? If not stick your nose in the filler neck and see if it smells like normal gas or has a varnishy smell which would be bad news. The oxygenated fuels we are forced to use these days have substantially shortened storage life than it used too. They say that the gas now starts to go bad after about 90 days. At least thats what all the local recreational toy stores say. Thats there biggest business cleaning and tuning engines that are used seasonally.
Do you happen to have a maintenance history for the car? Has it ever had fuel system work done to it before? Have you started the car since you bought it? Alot depends on the condition of the rubber boot that supports the fuel pump. Bad gas will attack the rubber braking it down. These bits of rubber can work their way through the system which can clog the fuel filter sending it into bypass mode without you knowing it and contaminating and clogging everything down stream. btw. A friend of mine used to own a mid 70's porsche 911 that developed a fuel problem, this is what happened to him except his was contaminated with a layer 3/4 in deep of rust and sludge in in his fuel tank . He said he ended up replacing almost every fuel componant Major $$$$
As I stated in a earlier posting , Give Don Steger a call at Delorean motor center in California He has put togather a step by step sheet for the do-it yourselfer types. He will be more than happy to fax or send you a copy. and answer any questions you have.
Good Luck , Dennis Vin 5180
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:59:53 EDT, Mrgolf77(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Hello, > I recently purchased an 81 DeLorean. The car has been sitting for about > a year since the last time it was started. I have heard starting the car
> after it has been sitting is the worst thing you can do. Is there a site
> that has complete directions on cleaning an entire fuel system? I have never > cleaned a fuel injection system, should I atemp to clean it myself? I am > pretty good with mechanics. I just dont want to wreck anything. I should
> probably clean the tank out while am at it too. > > any information would be greatly apprecited. > > Thanks > vin#2496 > > David
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