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4085. mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com    Re: Tracking a DeLorean's history :)
4086. magriese(AT)us.ibm.com       Rubber car covers
4087. delorean502(AT)excite.com    dent removal
4088. delorean502(AT)excite.com    Northstar engine
4089. John Hanley               Rubber car covers
4090. James Espey               Re: dent removal
4091. at88mph                   Wheel/wheel-well
4092. Clifford T McComb         Re: dent removal
4093. robert parker             Re: DMC = Disassembled Motor Car
4094. Martin Gutkowski          DOC Site Update
4095. Stian Birkeland           New DeLorean documentary (almost)
4096. Kemp, Nick (MN10)         Re: Rubber car covers
4097. BRUCE BENSON              Re: Wheel/wheel-well
4098. Christopher Hawes         Re: DYNO TESTING DAY
4099. Deloreanernst(AT)aol.com     Re: dent removal
4100. Steve Brodsky             Re: dent removal
4101. Doc                       Re: New DeLorean documentary (almost)
4102. mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com          Starting problem at in-between temps
4103. BondAtomic(AT)aol.com        The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4104. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com        Door Key Blank
4105. Richard Cutter            Re: Northstar engine
4106. DMC Joe                   Re: Starting problem at in-between temps
4107. Reggie_Knowlton(AT)vapower.com EDPM RUBBER
4108. Kemp, Nick (MN10)         Re: Starting problem at in-between temps
4109. Ann & Ed Thompson         Re: The DeLorean's Gullwing doors
4110. John Hanley               EDPM RUBBER
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"stian birkeland" <dmc_norwa-(AT)hotmail.com> wrote: 
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> 
> Hello DML'ers,
> In trying to track the history of DeLorean VIN 6759, I've found out
(Thanks 
> to James at DMC Houston) that the car was sold by:
> 
> Kurland Cadillac-Oldsmobile, (Selling Dealer # 32100)
> 32 Route 304,
> Nanuet
> New York 10954.
> 
> For all New Yorkers out there - Does this dealer still exist? Is the
address 
> still valid? What is the phone number? 
 
Yes they are still in business and the phone number is (914) 623-6060
the address you have is still the same. 
 
Mike D.
Vin 3113
NY Lic. DLORIANN
 
PS Anyone who would be interested  participating in a Northeast
Delorean assosiation (New York, NJ,CT, RI ect...) please e-mail me at
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Reggie wrote:
>Dave in Pittsburgh : I've found that a great storage cover can be made of
EDPM
rubber, thats the stuff they use on roofs, it's UV resistant and tough,<
This is not a good idea.  A car cover that does not breathe will
trap moisture under the cover right where you don't want it.
Mike Griese
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I know the "big boys" like DMC houston and Grady remove small dents on
deloreans, but I don't live near either.  I've been looking around and
can't find anybody, so I thought I would turn to the list.  Has anybody
in Michigan ever had small dings taken out of their delorean by someone
located in michigan?  and if so, where?  thanks a lot for you help.

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could the owner of the delorean with the Northstar Engine in it please
e-mail me privately?  I have to questions I'd like to ask you.  thanks
Erik Geerdink

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>>Dave in Pittsburgh : I've found that a great storage cover can be made =
of
EDPM
rubber, thats the stuff they use on roofs, it's UV resistant and tough,<
This is not a good idea.  A car cover that does not breathe will
trap moisture under the cover right where you don't want it.
<
Dave, I have to agree with Mike but also add if the ED compound contains
staining ingredients normally they dont but have you checked to see if th=
e
rubber will not migration stain any plastic componants it is in contact
with. The fact that you said it was EDPM means that the material is likel=
y
to be vulcanised with Sulphur and theres a lot of staining nasty by
products left over from the vulcanisation process. One other thing is, no=
one needs worry much about roofing membrames staining anything they are i=
n
contact with. One final thing the cheaper plasticisers used to extend
rubber also stain ( roofing is not a high $ item ). Just my $0.02 you may=
want to reconsider or make sure first.
Regards
John Hanley
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At 10:43 AM -0500 10/28/99, delorean502(AT)excite.com wrote:
>I know the "big boys" like DMC houston and Grady remove small dents on
>deloreans, but I don't live near either.  I've been looking around and
>can't find anybody, so I thought I would turn to the list.  Has anybody
>in Michigan ever had small dings taken out of their delorean by someone
>located in michigan?  and if so, where?  thanks a lot for you help.
Part of the beauty of the DeLoran is the fact that all the panels and doors
are relatively easily removed for shipping. The "big boys" as you put it,
regularly receive panels in the mail and by truck that we then repair and
return to the owner for reinstallation. An owner from Tennessee actually
brought us both quarter panels and the "T" roof section which we repaired
while he was in Houston for a week.
Stainless repair is not something you want to attempt or have someone
attempt without training and experience. Occasionally we get panels here
that have been worked on prior to us getting them. It *always* costs more
to fix what someone else has screwed up, and in a fewinstances, the panels
have had to be replaced.
Next week I will post some images of our "before and after" stainless
repair work. I think you will be amazed at what can be fixed when there are
trained craftsmen doing the work.
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
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Dear Group,
     I recently lowered my car and now I realized that my left front tire 
is not in the center of the wheel well.  It is more to the front of the 
car.  I can not stick one finger in the front but three will fit in the 
back.  The wheel on the right side is in the middle and looks good, no 
problem.  Could this have been caused because I lowered it?  I also did 
not notice this before I lowered it.  Any suggestions?
Thanks 
Felix
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Try Pfieffer Lincoln Mercury in Grand Rapids.  They were a large Delorean
Dealer at one time.  They removed a door ding from my Delorean last year,
and then earlier this year, a small dent from my fender.  Very, very
reasonably priced and the repairs are unnoticable.  Talk to Scott Baker at
their body shop.
Good Luck,
Cliff McComb "STNLESS"
Farmington Hills
delorean502(AT)excite.com wrote:
> I know the "big boys" like DMC houston and Grady remove small dents on
> deloreans, but I don't live near either.  I've been looking around and
> can't find anybody, so I thought I would turn to the list.  Has anybody
> in Michigan ever had small dings taken out of their delorean by someone
> located in michigan?  and if so, where?  thanks a lot for you help.
>
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Think of the LEARNING experience to be had!!!!  And...The HUGE amount of 
self satisfaction & pride, when completed, in knowing YOU did this,  & it 
LOOKS GOOD!!!     THAT can never be replace...even though the car can.     
Hang in there!        Drive Stainless     Robert VIN 6924
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>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:23:25 -0400
>
>Well,
>
>I finally got my D home last Saturday... She's VIN #5127; an '81 with
>5-speed, grey interior, and a lined hood (no gas flap).
>
>It wasn't the easiest chore to dig the car out of the shed it has been
>buried in the last 9 years, but we managed.  It had been stored rather
>poorly... lots of the parts are damaged due to poor storage & handling.
>In fact, if you are planning on storing a car, two things to avoid
>putting in it are a bail of fiberglass insulation & a ten pound bag of
>Puppy Chow.  It was a veritable rodent resort town.
>
>The three of us that were trying to lift the pontoon & frame up into the
>body just couldn't quite get it off the ground.  That posed quite a
>challenge as we had to lift it up into the 24' U-Haul truck I rented to
>get her home.  We eventually had to use a roll-back truck to drag the
>unit across the floor and up onto the rollback, then position the
>rollback to slide the unit into the truck.  Ouch.
>
>Getting it out was a bit easier, as we had six people, and also noticed
>that the pontoon was in fact not even bolted to the frame.  Made for
>pretty easy lifting when separated.
>
>We manuevered it all into my garage and I started to work.  Here's my
>preliminary shopping list:
>
>- all new lines, both fuel and brake.
>- 4 new brake calipers
>- all new carpets
>- front and rear glass
>- new headliners
>- new inside rearview mirror
>- all new weatherstripping
>
>But it isn't too bad, I keep telling myself.  I'm just at the initial "I
>bit off more than I can chew" stage.  I decided to start small by
>cleaning the pontoon and organizing the interior parts inside.  I then
>hung the body panels on the car with a couple of bolts each just to get
>them out of the way.  Doing these things made me feel a bit better.  I
>then put the binnacle on the dash, and when I looked at the odometer, I
>nearly cried.
>
>The car has 1721 miles. And four-tenths.  Now maybe that's 101,721.4 ...
>I'm afraid to ask, but so far everything on the car seems to support
>that the only wear & tear is that caused by poor storage.  Whatever
>sparked the previous owner to take the car apart that completely will
>always boggle me...
>
>Sigh...  I have my work cut out for me.  My first 'real' work on the car
>involved climbing under the front frame to chip away broken epoxy, wire
>brush, and then coat the metal with Rust Reformer.  I bought several
>cans of Rustoleum Machine Gray (but I need the Dark. not the light) and
>plan to paint the affected areas as correctly as I can, but I realize
>I'll never get them perfect.  I'm on something of a timeline.  I need to
>have the car assembled enough to sit outside by Christmas, as I need to
>get my '58 Plymouth out of the elements as soon as possible.
>
>I realize that while under both my time and monetary constraints, I will
>never have a concours-quality D.  The undercarriage will have to be a
>bit ugly, and I'll have to 'make do' with a lot of non-perfect pieces.
>I intend to focus my energies into the car's exterior and replacing lots
>of the interior.  Having the car look good at least will help stop me
>from panicking about the scope of this project.  I had a bad spot last
>night, where I just imagined myself selling the car piece by piece on
>eBay... potentially making enough money to buy a car in better shape...
>but I guess I'll just try to hang in there & build the best car I can
>with the resources I have.  I can't expect anything more of myself than
>that.
>
>-Dave Stragand
>-Pittsburgh, PA
>-VIN 5127
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Dear All,
The DOC site Download Page now includes a new 3-page article with some
excellent photographs, scanned in from "Popular Classics" magazine,
Sept. 1993 (thanks Tris). There's also a new video capture of Simon's
DeLorean from BBCTV's Watchdog program, screened last week.
Best Wishes,
Martin
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I just surfed in on the BTTF Website and there is a mentioning of another 
documentary w/the DeLorean.
It airs on the HISTORY CHANNEL on OCT. 31st.
If you have access to this channel, please record the programme for your own 
good.
Here's a synopsis of the up-coming show:
"HISTORY'S GREATEST BLUNDERS: THE SPRUCE GOOSE / THE DELOREAN CAR:  Slated 
to air October 31 on the History Channel, this 60-minute documentary "looks 
at two machines designed for style and speed, but flawed and confined to the 
scrap heap of history: the Spruce Goose, created by Howard Hughes to be the 
largest and quietest flying boat in the world; and the DeLorean car, a 
revolutionary sports car created by American businessman John DeLorean".  
DeLorean owners will surely disagree of the one-sided slant the documentary 
seemingly presents on the vehicle."
Probably an exciting programme....
Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Also, EDPM roofing material has fungicides (or something related) to deter
unwanted growth.  I'm not sure I'd put that next to anything that was of
value.
As an aside, never use roofing EDPM as a pond liner as it will kill the
inhabitants (Bacteria, plant life and the fish).  Use "pond quality" EDPM
only.
NK
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I realized that my left front tire
> is not in the center of the wheel well.  It is more to the front of the
> car.
The caster alignment on the DeLorean is held by the front sway bar and is
not adjustable. For that matter either is the camber. Only toe-in is
adjustable. Lowering shouldn't have had much affect on the caster of the
front wheels so I'd check the front suspension very carefully. Either the
lower control arm, lower ball joint, or the sway bar and/or it's mounting
points must have a problem.
Bruce Benson

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Will anyone be able to record the DYNO TESTING DAY NOV. 6, 1999 event 
(camcorder/digi-camera) as those of us who are not local would like to still 
enjoy at least some of this....
Thanks
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
Manchester
UK
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I've heard that dent removal "can't be done" on a hood... true or false?
- Wayne
vin: still looking at 'em
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I can attest first hand as to their work. I had a garage door and garage door
opener rip loose from its mountings damaging #10688 during a "typical" Texas
storm some years back. The luggage compartment door, door tops, and H panel
were repaired with NO traces of damage.
steve brodsky
James Espey wrote:
> At 10:43 AM -0500 10/28/99, delorean502(AT)excite.com wrote:
> >I know the "big boys" like DMC houston and Grady remove small dents on
> >deloreans, but I don't live near either.  I've been looking around and
> >can't find anybody, so I thought I would turn to the list.  Has anybody
> >in Michigan ever had small dings taken out of their delorean by someone
> >located in michigan?  and if so, where?  thanks a lot for you help.
>
> Part of the beauty of the DeLoran is the fact that all the panels and doors
> are relatively easily removed for shipping. The "big boys" as you put it,
> regularly receive panels in the mail and by truck that we then repair and
> return to the owner for reinstallation. An owner from Tennessee actually
> brought us both quarter panels and the "T" roof section which we repaired
> while he was in Houston for a week.
>
> Stainless repair is not something you want to attempt or have someone
> attempt without training and experience. Occasionally we get panels here
> that have been worked on prior to us getting them. It *always* costs more
> to fix what someone else has screwed up, and in a fewinstances, the panels
> have had to be replaced.
>
> Next week I will post some images of our "before and after" stainless
> repair work. I think you will be amazed at what can be fixed when there are
> trained craftsmen doing the work.
>
> James Espey
> DeLorean Motor Company
> Houston, Texas
>
> 281/568-9573
> 800/USA-DMC1
> http://www.usadmc.com
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History Channel
Sunday, October 31      11:00 PM - Midnight
History's Greatest Blunders
 The Spruce Goose/The DeLorean Car.
Monday, November 1      3:00 AM - 4:00 AM
History's Greatest Blunders
 The Spruce Goose/The DeLorean Car.
These are the times the show will be coming on.
Robert Starling
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Hi,
I've got a couple of ideas on this, but wanted to get more input in
case I forgot something obvious.
This past weekend my DeLorean wouldn't start when the engine was warm,
but cooler than normal operating temp. Cold start is fine. Hot start is
fine. It only showed up if I left the car sit for a while and the
engine temp dropped to around 100 degrees or so. Then, no start. Let it
cool down another 1/2 hour and it started just fine. Drive down the
road. Stop at a rest area for 5 minutes. Engine is still warm when I
get back and it starts fine.
It did this to me twice. If it had a carburetor instead of FI, I'd say
the choke was adjusted wrong. I'm thinking the thermo-time switch could
be going bad? Not completely bad or it wouldn't cold-start properly,
but maybe lost it's calibration?
Any suggestions appreciated!
Mark N
VIN 6820

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As many of you know, the DeLorean wasn't the only car to have gullwing doors. 
I have seen a lot of e-mails saying it was, but it wasn't. For example, the 
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing also has gullwing doors, as specified in the 
name. There is a 1956, 1957 and I think more of the years when this car was 
in production. Who knows, maybe John got his idea from it, but I doubt it.
John Feldman
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I was able to get my ignition key copied with no problem at my local 
locksmith's today.  I have a two key system on my DeLorean.  However they 
werent able to find a key blank for my door key which is the factory lighted 
key.  Does anyone have a key blank code for this?
Gary
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Hello...
I have the Northstar powered Delorean that was at the St Lewis Meet this 
month.  We drove it there then to East Coast and through Michigan and home 
to Colorado, 5,035 miles.  Averaged over 1,000 miles per driving day.
Contact me at DMC_Power(AT)hotmail.com
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>could the owner of the delorean with the Northstar Engine in it please
>e-mail me privately?  I have to questions I'd like to ask you.  thanks
>
>Erik Geerdink
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The most common reason for a warm or hot start problem is usually related
to the fuel accumulator. If it's an original it has a high probability of
failure, I suggest that you replace it. If the problem is corrected your
done, if not, no loss, it will have to be replaced sooner or later anyway.
If the problem persists after the replacement let me know and I'll walk you
through the next step.
 
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> From: mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've got a couple of ideas on this, but wanted to get more input in
> case I forgot something obvious.
> 
> This past weekend my DeLorean wouldn't start when the engine was warm,
> but cooler than normal operating temp. Cold start is fine. Hot start is
> fine. It only showed up if I left the car sit for a while and the
> engine temp dropped to around 100 degrees or so. Then, no start. Let it
> cool down another 1/2 hour and it started just fine. Drive down the
> road. Stop at a rest area for 5 minutes. Engine is still warm when I
> get back and it starts fine.
> 
> It did this to me twice. If it had a carburetor instead of FI, I'd say
> the choke was adjusted wrong. I'm thinking the thermo-time switch could
> be going bad? Not completely bad or it wouldn't cold-start properly,
> but maybe lost it's calibration?
> 
> Any suggestions appreciated!
> 
> Mark N
> VIN 6820

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Sorry, I was only trying to help Dave out, I guess there are drawbacks around
every corner.
Reggie


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Joe,
Does the replacement fuel accumulator have a lower failure rate?  Should
this be a standard upgrade item?
Nick Kemp
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> As many of you know, the DeLorean wasn't the only car to have gullwing doors.
> I have seen a lot of e-mails saying it was, but it wasn't.
Who are these people John?  I would like to help set them straight.
> Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing also has gullwing doors, as specified in the
> name. There is a 1956, 1957 and I think more 
The original Mercedes gullwing coupe (introduced March 1952) was not designated 
"300SL Gullwing".  It was simply the "Mercedes-Benz 300SL Coupe" the "SL" meaning
Sport-Light.  Of course it did have gullwing doors and was to become affectionately
know as "The Gullwing Coupe" by automobile enthusiasts.  Later the Mercedes C111 
with gullwing doors was developed primarily for speed and endurance trials.
In the early seventies, under the watchful eye of JZD (as General Manager at
Chevrolet), the Corvette group designed and built a gullwing Corvette coupe that was
supposed to be powered by the 4-rotor Wankle.  It never made it into production but 
was no doubt the single most influential project that led JZD to incorporating 
gullwing doors into the design of the DMC-12.  The Corvette doors were remarkably
similar to those on the DMC-12, except the lower half of the door had a second hinge.
(BTW, JZD unsuccessfully tried to buy the Wankle from GM for the DMC-12.)
Later the Bricklin SV-1 gullwing coupe was introduced.  The Bricklin went into
production in 1974, the same year JZD formed the De Lorean Motor Company. 
Incidentally, the fact that the DMC-12 design was remarkably similar to the Lotus
Esprit was no accident.  Lotus had no small part in bringing the DMC-12 to fruition,
but the Esprit did not have gullwing doors.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
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>Sorry, I was only trying to help Dave out, I guess there are drawbacks
around
every corner.
Reggie
<
I do believe we all try and help our fellow DMLers Reggie....my biggest
boob here was not noticing the typo and even continuing ......its actuall=
y
EPDM  Ethylene Propylene Diene Modified Rubber.. its one outstanding
property is that its resistance to Atmospheric Ozone is Super, plus its
able to be extended with vast amounts of filler and oil it finds its way
into quite a few areas of the automotive trade and would suspect that the=
Black rubber on the rear fender of our DL's is EPDM
Regards
John Hanley
Vin 16369
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