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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: door locks
From: "Gus Schlachter" <>

2. Re: door locks

3. Re: Re: Rough running durring acceleration

4. Re: Re: Accumulator Problems

5. Re: ahhh.. those brown stains.

6. Re: Re: Celebrity DeLorean owners...
From: "Trent Bailey" <>

7. Re: How to top Cleveland

8. New De Lorean Nose Bras Have Arrived!

9. Re: Lee Seiler model DeLorean
From: Lee <>

10. Panaramic view DeLorean Car Show

11. Fuel Pump Buzzing
From: scottmueller<>


From: robertbrady <>

14. Re: PRV6 Variations
From: Marc A Levy <>

15. Site Update - DMC2 (new D.) pics and more!
From: Tamir Ardon <>

16. DeLorean model
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <>

17. Re: Fuel Gauge
From: "robert parker" <>

18. Re: Re: Celebrity DeLorean owners...
From: "MrCopies" <>

19. Re: How to top Cleveland

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:58:26 -0500
From: "Gus Schlachter" <>
Subject: RE: door locks

I some posted door lock troubleshooting info a couple of months ago...

Basically, you need to determine if the problem is with the wiring through
the doors, the solenoids/switches, or the lock module.  There's about a 90%
probability that it's the module.

Good luck,

Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695

> -----Original Message-----
> From: []
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 10:34 AM
> To:
> Subject: [DML] door locks
> Hello List,
>      Since I have owned the car the power locks have not worked.  I have
> checked everything out.  I cleaned all the connections under the
> T-panel and
> tested the wires from the t panel connection to the solenoids.


Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:07:04 EDT
Subject: Re: door locks

Dave, In looking at the diagram and not knowing to what extent your back 
ground is in electronics and in reading diagrams, it's hard to diagnose some 
problems over the chat group with out a lot of back and forth . If you would 
like to call me we can review what you have done and I could give you some 
pointers and things to maby check.
evening, 972-564-9321
Dallas, Tx. area.


Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:26:51 EDT
Subject: Re: Re: Rough running durring acceleration

Dave, I just replaced a catalytic converter on my truck. I was getting bad 
gas mileage 
and everyone said the converter might be stopped up. My son in law who works 
on cars at a dealership said that if it glows red it ( might ) be bad. My 
truck has about 150,000 miles on it at that time and my poor gas mileage, 
after replacing the converter for  $300.00 was the transmission torque 
converter not the catalytic converter. These thing can fool you.
My $.02's worth


Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:34:51 EDT
Subject: Re: Re: Accumulator Problems

Robert, Does your car have the check valve in the top of the fuel pump. If so 
could it be bleeding back and letting the pressure off.The accummulator also 
holds pressure in the system.
My $0.02's worth


Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:41:29 EDT
Subject: Re: ahhh.. those brown stains.

Mike and Group
 No rubbing , No scrubbing, I got the brown stains out of my dash with suntan 
cream. Just rub a little on the dash and let it sit in the shade for a while. 
Then in a day or two rub a little more on. Mine went away in a day or two. 
Please report back and let me know how it worked for you. P.S. Use a damp 
My $0.02's worth


Message: 6
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:57:37 -0500
From: "Trent Bailey" <>
Subject: Re: Re: Celebrity DeLorean owners...

Yes that is very interesting I am 1/2 owner of the Jim Varney car.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jake <>

> The interviewer euphemistically asked Varney at the height of his "Ernest
> Worrell" career how much money he was making.  Varney answered that he was
> making enough to keep gas in his DeLorean.


Message: 7
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 01:15:51 EDT
Subject: Re: How to top Cleveland

Well Josh maybe I ought to give up right now
any more tall orders LOL
well I hve done some thing to make the Graceland show just as memorable
all you have to do is show up



Message: 8
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 01:22:42 EDT
Subject: New De Lorean Nose Bras Have Arrived!

For those of you who ordered a re-issued limited edition Colgan Custom De 
Lorean Nose Bra, I'm happy to say that they have arrived!  You're gonna love 
it when you see it!  I didn't expect to see them before Monday, at the 
I'm adding an additional diagram that I made to show you how to refold your 
nose bra.  They're like road maps.... they fold up small, but not if you 
don't know how!  
I've begun breaking down and repacking the bulk delivery into individual 
shipping units.  I discovered that somehow the storage bags are not with the 
shipment.  Colgan says they're normally a stock item and they'll ship Monday 
by FedEx so I can include them with your order, (if you ordered a storage 
I've got a website under construction where I'll post pictures and info for a 
waiting list for future orders... and other items:  DELOREANSTUFF.COM  That's 
a few weeks off, though.  

"Living the dream"


Message: 9
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:34:41 -0700
From: Lee <>
Subject: Re: Lee Seiler model DeLorean

At 06:15 PM 6/20/00 EDT, you wrote:
>This is our first message to dmcnews as we are new to this, we are new 
>DeLorean owners as well.  We feel very privileged to have won the raffle for 
>the Lee Seiler model Saturday night at Cleveland.  At first our plans were 
>>.  Thank you for any input and help!
>                                Howard & Leslie Smith

I reply here on the DML as I feel that the reply will be of interest to ALL - 

Dear Howard & Leslie Smith,

First let me make it clear that your kit is unique, it is the Only One that
will ever
be produced. It is not just another one twenty-forth scale kit, it's very
containing double the amount of 24Kt Gold.  Half it's value is that it was
specifically for the Cleveland show as a special edition of ONE of one. If
you contact 
me at: I will send you the certificate of ownership
and the 
personalized assembly manual and engine/frame coupons.

The limited edition consist of only 100 kits of which 95 have been sold
leaving 5
left over.

I can't stress enough that opening and assembling the kit will only create
a DeLorean
in stainless or Gold (which ever you select) but it's collector value will
be no better 
than any of the current 100 limited editions.  If you would like a kit to
assemble I have 
several still un-purchased one of which you can have for the shipping cost.
This would 
allow you the fun of assembly with out risking your Cleveland 2000 prize.

What ever decision you make you can contact other edition owners at - 

Just follow the links to the DMC area. There is a bulletin board and lots
of pictures.

I should note that both myself and the authors of the assembly manuals
monitor the
site and will answer any assembly question you may have.

Congratulations with your prize.


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:57:02 EDT
Subject: Panaramic view DeLorean Car Show

For those of  you that were in panaramic photo shot let me tell you it came 
out great 
its the only photo where you can see it all in one shot. tHE DELOREANS ARE A 

The only thing I am sorry about is I didn't advertise it more for Crabtree 
Photography.  He just notified me he was coming and showed up.

Well again it was one of the unexpected bonuses of the show.
don't let this one get away It is well worth the price.
You can contact him direct at Crabtree Photographics,
 BOX 1452, 
Morgantown, WV 26507
phone 304-296-6050


Message: 11
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 06:24:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: scottmueller<>
Subject: Fuel Pump Buzzing

I just made the 2000 mile round trip to the Cleveland show.

During the Rally last Friday, I stopped at a BP station to fill up.  Shortly after the fill up, my 
fuel pump started to make a terrible racket with a full tank.  The noise would come and 

When I got home, I pulled the pump.  The suction strainer was jam packed with debris.  
Looked like "Coke Fines", thats a term from the oil refineries.  Please, no jokes.  This 
debris causes the pump to cavitate.  After I drain the tank, I am going to clean it.

As far as the gas heating up while in the tank, there are three main sources.
1-The engine cooling lines that run along both sides of the tank.
2-Hot air from the radiator.
3-Engine heat into the fuel lines.

The reason the pump makes that horrible noise is that it is caviating, that is there are 
vapor bubbles being formed and then collapsing.  Cavitation can be caused by 
1-In sufficient suction head, ie: low fuel level
2-Increased line loses, ie: plugged suction strainer or collapsed hose.
3-Hot gasoline, which vaporizes more readily.

How can we correct this problems?
1-Keep the gas tank full when driving, do not let the  level drop to empty.
2-Make sure that the suction strainer is clean.
3-Make sure there are no kinkes in the suction hose.

I am currently working on a replacement suction hose that will not collaspe, and is 
impervious to the reformulated fuels.  The reformulated fuels have different additives 
which chemically attack the rubber used in the suction hoses that you are currently able 
to buy.

I have been running a prototype suction hose and strainer for the past two years.   The 
prototype components are not pretty, but strictly functional.  They are inside the tank, so 
you can not see them anyway.

I will keep the group posted on my progress.

Scott Mueller

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:40:47 EDT

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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:08:08 -0400
From: robertbrady <>

had a great time in cleveland even if I was only there for the saturday
that was a super place to have the show and the weather was as good as I
have seen in cleveland .
got some great ideas there
has any one on the list ever used the jag shop in Florida? talked to
them there and may send my d over to have it worked on
thanks  bob


Message: 14
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:54:23 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <>
Subject: Re: PRV6 Variations

If the higher power PRV6 variations were available in the states (and
parts to rebuild them) I am sure a DMC block could be rebuild with parts
from the high power cousins.

This has been discussed before on the list, and I have had some
discussions with fellow DeLorean owners about it.  In theory, it would
be possible to swap the fuel system, intake, exhaust, and even heads
with one of the higher power PRV6 motors.  I hear there are even 24V
heads for the PRV6, getting 250+ HP with no forced induction.

The big problem here in the USA is that we can just run over to a bone
yard to look for possible donor cars.  I suspect the DeLorean community
across the pond either does not have enough interest to do this, or has
done it but they are keeping the secrets to themselves!  :)

Our only other option in the US for real power is either a motor swap,
or to wait for the Stage II or Stage III DMC Houston motor.


Message: 15
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tamir Ardon <>
Subject: Site Update - DMC2 (new D.) pics and more!

Dear List,

Working hard on updates.  On the site now there is
about 10% of expected updates to be completed within
the next month.  Things to check for now are...

- New DMC2 section with pics. of DeLorean's new super
car he plans to build.
- New Rare DeLorean section with video clips and
pictures of the Gold DeLorean, VIN 501, and Johnny
Carson's DeLorean.
- New Book section with lots of books never discussed
- New Propaganda section with a complete brochure
scanned, company newsletter, and DeLorean
- New DeLorean family section with video and pictures
of DeLorean family members. (Pic. of DeLorean's
daughter kissing me :-)[My personal favorite]

Well, enjoy the updates and expect more things to come
within the next couple weeks.


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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:44:39 +0200
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <>
Subject: DeLorean model

Hello all,
Is anyone out there willing to sell their limited edition DeLorean model
that was made by Lee?
I really want to one. I talked to Lee few times and he told me that he's got
one for me. I even got a reservation number 037/94-6298. But then Lee just
stopped responding to my emails.Last email I got from him was 6 months ago.
I can see him post sometimes on the DML, but when I try emailing him I never
get any response.

If someone is willing to sell their model let me know.
Lee, if you read this and you still have my model... please let me know what
is happening.

Tom Niemczewski
vin 6298


Message: 17
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:32:26 PDT
From: "robert parker" <>
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge

Not uncommon.  If you like living on "the edge" of fuel, watch for the 
yellow low-fuel light.  I've found it begins "flashing" with ~2gals. left, & 
stays on with ~1.5gal. left, regardless of where the guage needle sits.    
Driving back from St. Louis, my tripometer read 340 mi. & the yellow light 
was just starting to flash at me.  By then I was home (Tulsa) so I don't 
know how much further I could've gone. Oh, my!             Drive Stainless   
   Robert VIN 6924

>Subject: [DML] Fuel Gauge
>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:18:37 -0000
>My fuel gauge doesn't seem very accurate 


Message: 18
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:19:28 -0500
From: "MrCopies" <>
Subject: Re: Re: Celebrity DeLorean owners...

And at the top of the celebrity list......

One of the greatest stars of tv and entertainment - a man who's film career
includes such memorable hits as "'P' is for Psycho", "Muppets Go Medieval"
and "Give My Remains to Broadway"....

Troy McClure (of "The Simpsons" fame)

but seriously....

I'd heard that Don Knotts owns/owned a Delorean.


Message: 19
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:26:27 -0400
Subject: Re: How to top Cleveland

Who can even think of two years away? Yearly events would be really