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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Help! Wire next to fuel filler neck! DMC Joe?
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net>

2. Importing to Canada
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

3. THANK YOU
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Rare DeLorean Documentary video review
From: "Ryan Bennett" <rpbennet_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

5. Re: How to top Cleveland
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

6. RE Help! Wire next to fuel filler neck! DMC Joe?
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>

7. Re: DeLorean model
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

8. Funny squeeling sound!
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>

9. Another strange occurance
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>

10. Can You Already Buy A New D? ]was: ( DeLorean model)
From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude_at_dml_juno.com>

11. DELOREANS IN THE UK
From: marktjury_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: How to top Cleveland
From: "Ray Haug" <rdh_at_dml_hozt.com>

13. 18k or 14k
From: nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us

14. www.deloreantime.com
From: "Steven" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>

15. Water pump
From: <mikeatk_at_dml_concentric.net>

16. Re: weird factory writings
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

17. Re: Delorean Starter Electronics 101 .... what am I missing?
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

18. Re: DELOREANS IN THE UK
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

19. Re: DeLorean model
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

20. Re: MSD pros and cons
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

21. Fwd: MSD pros and cons
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

22. RE: 18k or 14k
From: Declan Kelly <declan_at_dml_seagreentech.com>

23. Re: 18k or 14k
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

24. Re: Importing to Canada
From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7_at_dml_hotmail.com>

25. Re: How to top Cleveland
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:12:30 +0200
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net>
Subject: Re: Help! Wire next to fuel filler neck! DMC Joe?

Hi,
You're right, that wire is suppose to be connected to one of those three
bolts. It is a ground wire that prevents sparks when you fill up your car.
Without it a spark could jump between the fuel filler neck on your car and
the tip of a fueling gun at a gas station. It is a VERY good idea to clean
that wire and attach it where it should be.

Hope this helps,
Tom Niemczewski
tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net
vin 6298

----- Original Message -----
From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Cc: <dmcjoe_at_dml_aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 9:20 PM
Subject: [DML] Help! Wire next to fuel filler neck! DMC Joe?


>
> Ok, here's what happened...I decided to change the 3 bolts holding the
fuel
> filler neck. I did that, then suddenly discovered a wire hanging loose in
> the fuel filler "compartment" when I checked the clutch fluid level.
>
> At the same time I discovered that the 3 bolts I had just replaced did
have
> a nut on each, holding the bolt from the bottom up.
>
> Well, one of the bolts did not have this nut. I looked under the car and
> sure enough, there was the missing nut! I believe that the loose wire is
> suppose to be between the bolt and the nut. Is this correct?
>
> I can't find anything in the Manuals? So what does this wire do? It has an
> "O" fastener on the end (To be threaded onto a bolt), so I suspect that is
> is a ground wire? I believe the wire is black... Where is it supposed to
be
> connected...
>
> Please help!
> DMC Joe?
>
> Best wishes
> Stian Birkeland
> Norway
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:27:11 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Importing to Canada

Anyone have info on what it takes to get a car into Canada if it's 
purchased in the states?

Email em privately - thanks...

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:46:28 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: THANK YOU

Besides from recovering from the show and traveling a lot for buisiness I 
have been reading all of your letters to me and on the DML about the show and 
can say that for once in my life I am speachless.  Words cannot express what 
I feel right now other than to say I wish I could thank each and every one of 
you for helping to make the Cleveland DeLorean Car Show the best show ever.

I have spent hours reading each piece of mail and the stories attached with 
each one.  The show was a dream of mine from the time I bought my car and all 
of you helped me make my dream come true.  I hope I made yours come true with 
everything we did at the show.  

A special thanks to all of the owners of the special DeLoreans we had there 
and to each and every owner of the rest of the DeLoreans that made my dream 
of 100 + DeLoreans come true.

My special thanks to Kathryn and Mark who made all our dreams come true by 
bringing John to the show.  And of course to John Z DeLorean thank you from 
all of us.

Sincerely

Ken



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:08:38 -0700
From: "Ryan Bennett" <rpbennet_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Rare DeLorean Documentary video review

I concur with Russ on the quality of this video. It is well worth the price.
A very informative, entertaining, and well made production indeed. There is
no doubt that any DeLorean collection in incomplete without this first-hand
account of the fledgling company, and the man behind the marque. I don't
represent the publishers here, I just really enjoy having the tape. I
particularly liked seeing the meetings and the members addressing issues
that have been topics of discussion here on the DML, and John's reactions
and decisions throughout the production design process. My only complaint is
that at 54 minutes it isn't long enough, even though a lot of ground is
covered in that time. I could probably sit through an entire mini series on
this topic. I'm hoping that "Room 507", which is purportedly the movie being
made by the people who bought the rights to this documentary, is as
enjoyable.

Ryan Bennett
#01085

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ohlin" <ozone_at_dml_gte.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 9:27 PM
Subject: [DML] Rare DeLorean Documentary video review


> I just got done viewing Dan's video (picked it up at the Cleveland show)
and
> I must say it is one of the best things I've seen and am proud to have it
in
> my DMC collection. I have read all of the major books out there on JZD and
> the company, but this video left me with a strong impression of exactly
what
> John and his supporters had to go through in order to build up a brand new
> car company from scratch in just a few years. I found myself wishing more
> than once that things had turned out differently. Since the video
concludes
> just when the DMC was in their first year of production, it predates most
> all of the serious problems that befell the company later on. You could
> sense the optimism and sense of adventure that was still in the air. I
> highly recommend it.
>
> Russ
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:03:10 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: How to top Cleveland

In a message dated 6/25/00 5:34:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com writes:

<< This will be the very last opportunity to drive a 
 DeLorean around the test track at the factory in Dunmurry >>

Why?

-Wayne
11174



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:31:29 +0100
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: RE Help! Wire next to fuel filler neck! DMC Joe?

It is probably an earth strap to stop static build up around the filler neck
I have one attached to my filler and it is held on by one of the bolts which
you
mentioned it probably fell off when the nut was removed or vibrated loose,
if I were
you I would stick it back on as the fuel area is not a good place to have a
static
spark occurring use a Nylok nut which won't vibrate loose, or use some of
that
Loctite Nut Lock stuff.

RG




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:32:55 -0400
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: DeLorean model


How does one get in touch via email with Bob of the infamous Zilla products?
I bought LockZilla (w/remote) at Cleveland, and would really like to see an
enhancement that includes an engine cut-out switch/relay that is also
enabled/disabled with the remote control unit.  This would primarily act as
a theft-deterrent device. (It would obviously need some intelligence NOT to
cut out the engine if it is running!)   I think it would take too long for
some car thief not familiar with Deloreans to find the fuse panel and
disable the device.

-Hank




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:19:18 +0100
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Funny squeeling sound!

I jumped in the D this morning turned the key and it was dead I checked the
battery sure enough it was as flat as a pan cake only registering 0.3 of a
volt
on my tester. I only used the car 3 days ago and the battery was fine,
however I sometimes get this squealing sound from under the steering
column (not the door open buzzer) and when I put my hand under the dash
and giggle the wires around it goes on and off, has anyone else had this
problem and if so what did you have to change to get rid of it? is this
likely
to be the cause of the flat battery which has occurred more than once in the
past couple of months

Oh. and thanks for filling in the parts form on my web page I am updating it
every time a new part is sent to me via the form. feel free to add any other
cross reference parts you know.

www.btinternet.com/~dmc12

Enter the site and go to the parts cross reference page.

Cheers

RG




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:33:12 -0400
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>
Subject: Another strange occurance

I had something terribly strange happen to me today.   Today I picked up the DMC from storage and having a few minor tweaks done to it.  It drove fine, idled fine, best I've ever had it.  I filled it up with gas, then when I came back out to start it, the ac,the radio, and the power windows didn't work.  No power.   Now mind you, it was nearing 95 degrees outside, and I have no ventilation.  I made it home, and parked it.  I messed with the fuses, they seemed fine.  I didn't have a test light, so I couldn't see how that would have tested.  Went ahead and changed out the fuses, just to be safe, still no power.  Frustrated, I went in and cooled off.  2 hours later I came out, started the car, and everything worked.  The only thing I could think to do was to change the circuit breakers that control the fans and ac, as I hadn't done that yet.  My question is this; I know the circuit breakers could feasably have caused the shutoff on the ac, but what about the radio and windows?  C!
!
ould this be a heat issue?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Scott


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:50:06 -0500
From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Can You Already Buy A New D? ]was: ( DeLorean model)

"I signed up for production #16 of the new DeLorean too.  I hope the
result isn't the same."

Richard

What do you mean, you've already got dibs on the 16th Second Gen.
DeLorean
car that is to be produced?  Please shed some more light on this shady
subject.
Tell us how we too can reserve a New DeLorean, without buying a $3K
watch.

BTW, does the car have an official name yet?

Thanks,
Robert G.



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:47:12 EDT
From: marktjury_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DELOREANS IN THE UK

Could you please let me know how I can find a right hand drive Delorean to 
buy in the UK. About how many were made and what should I expect to pay for 
one?



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:14:14 -0000
From: "Ray Haug" <rdh_at_dml_hozt.com>
Subject: Re: How to top Cleveland

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, jettrink_at_dml_o... wrote:
> Who can even think of two years away? Yearly events would be really
> neat.

The DeLorean Owners Association sponsors a DeLorean Expo for ALL 
Delorean owners and enthusiasts every year. This annual event usually 
includes a DeLorean Car Show and/or Concours, DeLorean Tech Talks, 
DeLorean Products Fair, a DeLorean Road Rally and two evening dinners 
with program and LOTS of Raffle Prizes (ask Pattie Substelny).

22 DeLorean Expos have been held since 1984 in different locations 
around the US with recent expos held in Williamsburg, Virginia; 
Nashville, Tennesse; Belfast, Northern Ireland; Snowmass, Colorado; 
Los Angeles, California; and St. Louis, Illinois.  Check out the 
locations at:

http://www.delorean-owners.org/events/locales.html

DeLorean Expo 2000 - Road to Rio  will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada 
at the Rio Suite Casino resort on November 9 - 12, 2000.  TWO 
DeLorean Road Rallies are planned - one which includes a Lake Mead 
Cruise (not in your DeLorean), and the other with a luncheon stop at 
the lovely Pahrump Valley Winery (where over 50 DeLoreans gathered in 
1995).  Plus all of the lights and excitement of Las Vegas.  

More information and on-line registration (soon) is available at:

http://www.delorean-owners.org/events/index.html

http://www.delorean-owners.org/events/2000expo.html
 
ALL DeLorean owners and enthusiasts are welcome.  Association 
membership is not required to attend.

Its a Great Time to drive your DeLorean to Las Vegas!

Ray Haug, Internet Director
DeLorean Owners Association
webchair_at_dml_delorean-owners.org




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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:46:01 -0000
From: nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us
Subject: 18k or 14k

HI, I've been researching the Delorean Motor Company, the dmc-12 and 
John Delorean himself for the past couple years.  alot of my 
information came right from this list.  I was wondering if I could
get 
some advice.   I currently have two possiblitys for my first
delorean. 
 a 81' 5speed with 9,000 miles, I drove it, rus great, absolutly 
flawless in apperance, not to say what the condition of it
mechanicaly 
after sitting so much.  I did check for frame rust and I couldnt find 
any.  the engine starts right up with out hessitation and seems to 
idle and drive smooth and consistant.  the owner wants 18,900 for it. 
The biggest catch is that when I drove it the Sped. and Odometer
didnt 
work, he said they worked the last time he drove it about a month
ago. 
 I belive that the car is at least close to this reading because the 
origional tires still have alot of tread left.  I intend on driveing 
this car everyday, in the summer and storing it for the michigan 
winters.  so I'm not sure if I should buy a 9,000 mile car and drive 
it alot when it probably should be preserved as it is.  the other car 
is a 81' 5speed with 49,000miles.  new clutch, some other new stuff, 
the dash is cracked, instrument cover cracked, seats worn, fascias 
need re-painting, small dents on front of car, and bend in the 
stainless steel by the wheel well. it was a southern car so its been 
in the sun. the owner of the second car seems to be very
knowledgeable 
about deloreans and I would guess that means the car was well taken 
care of Mechanically.  I'm just wondering if anyone has experiences
or 
advice for me, it would be greatly Appreciated! thanks!  




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:45:22 -0500
From: "Steven" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>
Subject: www.deloreantime.com

Hello All,

     During the Saturday Night Banquet during the Cleveland Tour, Kathryn DeLorean talked about www.deloreantime.com, Well, I checked it a few days after I heard about it, but it wasn't up.  Well, I just checked it out, and it shows the picture of the watch found on dmc2.com, and a caption that says: "Site Under Construction, Stay tuned for an Interview with John Delorean, and other cool stuff."  Just thought I'd let everyone know that the site is up, and will be updated soon...  See ya

Steven Lawrence
vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net
VIN# - not yet.....
My DeLorean Website
http://go.fast.to/delorean/


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:49:29 -0700
From: <mikeatk_at_dml_concentric.net>
Subject: Water pump

Well, I've been putting off replacing the coolant system since we bought the car, but the water pump on our D decided it has had enough so I need a new one.  Does anyone have a new one they don't need.  I've also decided to replace the hoses while I'm at it so could use those as well.  This may also be a good time to replace the radiator so if anyone has a brass radiator?  I knew this was coming but hoped it was a little further down the road.  Not complaining though, almost 20 years old.  BTW, my cooling fans were cycling on and off causing the car to overheat and we have the Fanzilla installed.  It turned out to be a failed 40 amp C/B.  DMCJoe suggested I remove the C/B and use the Fanzilla's fuse's.  Worked great.  Thanks again Joe for your help.

Mike Atkinson
vin 16232

mikeatk_at_dml_concentric.net      


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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:27:07 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: weird factory writings

There were many times during production when the production line was
stopped. Idle time led to personal writings on the inside of the stainless
steel panels (the black body's were not very good writing tablets). This is
very common especially on the inside upper sections of the doors.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 1:25 PM
Subject: [DML] weird factory writings


> Hello,
>     I just removed my passenger side front fender because I was going to
see
> if I could have a small ding removed.  I found some very strange writings
on
> the back.  heres what it says.
>
> "dead-ant" "dead-ant" "dead-ant" "dead ant" "dead-ant" and then "a picture
of
> an ant=(a picture of fire)" Then off to the side there is a LARGE picture
of
> another and and maybe some stick people.  on the top there is a picture of
a
> 6 inch flag that says "3".  I will be taking the other fender off soon
just
> to see what it says.
>
> I wonder what that was all about.......... any ideas....LOL
>
> later
> Dave
> #2496





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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:24:03 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean Starter Electronics 101 .... what am I missing?

Mike,

Try this test to substitute your master battery ground. Clamp one end of a
jumper cable to the negative side of the battery and attach the other end to
the engine block. If you still experience the same problem repeat the test
while conducting a "jump start" through the jump start post to another
vehicle battery.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: MrCopies <mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 11:45 PM
Subject: [DML] Delorean Starter Electronics 101 .... what am I missing?


> Hi gang....
>
> I'm just finishing a frame off restoration of my Delorean and have
> reattached the body to the frame.  In the midst of reconnecting the
> electrical system I'm running into the problem of low voltage on my
starter.
> I worked over the weekend on this, read the "freakin" manual :), and
scoured
> the archives... so if this is a dumb question...sorry.
>
> What am I missing.....
>
> - I have full power in the car (all the onboard stuff including the radio,
> windows, instrument cluster, door lights, locks etc work - except my horns
> ...not sure if it's related)
> - fuel pump engages when you turn the key
> - Facias are off the car presently so the rear wiring harness (big black
> plug) is not connected
> - Start inhibit relay pins tests fine... 12 v and then 12 v when key is
> turned
> - Starter only registers 8.5 v when key is turned (on the white/red wire)
> - I've checked and double checked ground wires including the trailing arm
> one (Knut had a great archive message about that)
>
> When I turn the key all the lights fade and I get one click from the relay
> compartment.
>
> What the heck am I missing?
>
> thanks
> mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com
> VIN#17089





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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:09:17 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: DELOREANS IN THE UK

Mark/ list,
as we have already corresponded on this subject,
I will be interested to see what the rest of the list can come up with.

Chris Parnham Hon. Sec. Delorean Owners Club UK.

 Owner of  "RHD cars" and recent seller of another 2.(none currently for
sale)


----- Original Message -----
From: <marktjury_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 10:47 PM
Subject: [DML] DELOREANS IN THE UK


> Could you please let me know how I can find a right hand drive Delorean to
> buy in the UK. About how many were made and what should I expect to pay
for
> one?
>
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:47:48 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: DeLorean model

Hank,

Contact me privately for the information you are looking for.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hank Eskin <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] DeLorean model


>
> How does one get in touch via email with Bob of the infamous Zilla
products?
> I bought LockZilla (w/remote) at Cleveland, and would really like to see
an
> enhancement that includes an engine cut-out switch/relay that is also
> enabled/disabled with the remote control unit.  This would primarily act
as
> a theft-deterrent device. (It would obviously need some intelligence NOT
to
> cut out the engine if it is running!)   I think it would take too long for
> some car thief not familiar with Deloreans to find the fuse panel and
> disable the device.
>
> -Hank





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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:29:42 EDT
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: MSD pros and cons

Andrew,

I had done a tune up on my car over month ago.  
I had the original Bosch ignition coil which is around 16 months old, 
replaced by a MSD Ignition coil Blaster 2, model #8200.  
It was an experiment to see if there is a difference between the two.

The MSD coil made a major difference.  
The acceleration was better from stand still, and more power from the engine 
with additional 3 to 5 HP?  
It was smoother in the lower RPM right up to the higher RPM -- at speeds over 
120 mph with power -- pedal to the metal.    

The MSD is cheaper in price then the Bosch coil are $55 to $60.  
The MSD Blaster coils are $45. for the red painted (#8203) and $50. for the 
chrome (#8200).  
They are both the same in performance, the difference is the cosmetics.  
Go to: www.msdignition.com

I got over a 1,000 miles on the MSD coil and the "difference and the thrill" 
is still there and enjoying every mile with it.  
The two Bosch coil never produce that kind of "feel" since my ownership over 
the last 4 years of daily driving.

I was hoping to attend the Cincinnati Show, but I could not rearrange my 
agenda.  
So, I missed the show and I missed enjoying the long drive in "the new 
difference."  

Kayo Ong
#5508
Lic 9D NY



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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:18:38 EDT
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Fwd: MSD pros and cons

In a message dated 6/27/00 5:29:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Kayo Ong writes:

<< 
 I was hoping to attend the Cincinnati Show, but I could not rearrange my 
agenda.  
 So, I missed the show and I missed enjoying the long drive in "the new 
difference."  
 
 Kayo Ong
 #5508
 Lic 9D NY >>


I meant to say Cleveland not Cincinnati.  
Cincinnati was two years ago.
Working too hard.  
Can't get my time line straight.   ;-)

Kayo 



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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:53:37 -0400
From: Declan Kelly <declan_at_dml_seagreentech.com>
Subject: RE: 18k or 14k

Hi
	Question .. what is the owner of the second DMC asking ?.
	I find that selling a D is not as easy as it first seems !
	We all know that our passion for the D's has made us very 
	knowledgeable about the car itself. I must have read several
	books on Delorean, joined mailing lists, searched the web,
	all before I ever attempted to buy my first D. So the buying
audience
	is always a smaller more knowledgeable group of people. Which brings
	me to my point.... The first Delorean owner may have this
	car of sale longer then he expects, call him every one or two
	weeks and offer him $15,000. If the second owner is looking for
	10k or above, I would hang out for the first one. 
	Delorean parts are not cheep. We cannot see inside the engine so
	appearance is all we have to go on. 
	P.S. I believe the owner about his odometer, this item has always
been
	an issue on the DMC.

Good Luck.
Declan, Dublin, Ireland.






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From: nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us [mailto:nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 8:46 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
Subject: [DML] 18k or 14k


HI, I've been researching the Delorean Motor Company, the dmc-12 and 
John Delorean himself for the past couple years.  alot of my 
information came right from this list.  I was wondering if I could
get 
some advice.   I currently have two possiblitys for my first
delorean. 
 a 81' 5speed with 9,000 miles, I drove it, rus great, absolutly 
flawless in apperance, not to say what the condition of it
mechanicaly 
after sitting so much.  I did check for frame rust and I couldnt find 
any.  the engine starts right up with out hessitation and seems to 
idle and drive smooth and consistant.  the owner wants 18,900 for it. 
The biggest catch is that when I drove it the Sped. and Odometer
didnt 
work, he said they worked the last time he drove it about a month
ago. 
 I belive that the car is at least close to this reading because the 
origional tires still have alot of tread left.  I intend on driveing 
this car everyday, in the summer and storing it for the michigan 
winters.  so I'm not sure if I should buy a 9,000 mile car and drive 
it alot when it probably should be preserved as it is.  the other car 
is a 81' 5speed with 49,000miles.  new clutch, some other new stuff, 
the dash is cracked, instrument cover cracked, seats worn, fascias 
need re-painting, small dents on front of car, and bend in the 
stainless steel by the wheel well. it was a southern car so its been 
in the sun. the owner of the second car seems to be very
knowledgeable 
about deloreans and I would guess that means the car was well taken 
care of Mechanically.  I'm just wondering if anyone has experiences
or 
advice for me, it would be greatly Appreciated! thanks!  





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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:02:32 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: 18k or 14k

I'd go for less mileage and good condition every time..could you get the
cheaper car up to the standard of the better one for the  $4K difference?
..but whether you could get a better deal, buying from someone off the
list.......might be worth a try as you are a serious potential buyer.

Just my 2pence

CP DOC uk

----- Original Message -----
From: <nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 4:46 AM
Subject: [DML] 18k or 14k


> HI, I've been researching the Delorean Motor Company, the dmc-12 and
> John Delorean himself for the past couple years.  alot of my
> information came right from this list.  I was wondering if I could
> get
> some advice.   I currently have two possiblitys for my first
> delorean.
>  a 81' 5speed with 9,000 miles, I drove it, rus great, absolutly
> flawless in apperance, not to say what the condition of it
> mechanicaly
> after sitting so much.  I did check for frame rust and I couldnt find
> any.  the engine starts right up with out hessitation and seems to
> idle and drive smooth and consistant.  the owner wants 18,900 for it.
> The biggest catch is that when I drove it the Sped. and Odometer
> didnt
> work, he said they worked the last time he drove it about a month
> ago.
>  I belive that the car is at least close to this reading because the
> origional tires still have alot of tread left.  I intend on driveing
> this car everyday, in the summer and storing it for the michigan
> winters.  so I'm not sure if I should buy a 9,000 mile car and drive
> it alot when it probably should be preserved as it is.  the other car
> is a 81' 5speed with 49,000miles.  new clutch, some other new stuff,
> the dash is cracked, instrument cover cracked, seats worn, fascias
> need re-painting, small dents on front of car, and bend in the
> stainless steel by the wheel well. it was a southern car so its been
> in the sun. the owner of the second car seems to be very
> knowledgeable
> about deloreans and I would guess that means the car was well taken
> care of Mechanically.  I'm just wondering if anyone has experiences
> or
> advice for me, it would be greatly Appreciated! thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:47:57 CDT
From: "Richard Petrie" <juffo7_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Importing to Canada

Would it be possible if any responses could "cc"-it to me as well. I am 
faced with this situation and I am somewhat in the dark on the subject.

Many Thanks,
Richard P.


>From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Importing to Canada
>Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:27:11 -0600
>
>Anyone have info on what it takes to get a car into Canada if it's
>purchased in the states?
>
>Email em privately - thanks...
>
>James Espey
>DeLorean Motor Company
>Houston, Texas
>
>281/568-9573
>800/USA-DMC1
>http://www.delorean.com
>
>
>
>
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:13:03 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: How to top Cleveland

Robert will doubtless give an up to date reply, but I think the problems
with the track are a combination of age, disrepair, trees growing right over
it that will require cutting back, but mostly that adjacent companies have
bought some of the land/track to expand there business onto. It is your last
chance chaps..mark you diaries up now..get over to Northern Ireland in 2001
as many of did a few years age and have a ball!

Chris P DOCuk  ( volunteer tree cutter)

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From: <deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] How to top Cleveland


> In a message dated 6/25/00 5:34:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com writes:
>
> << This will be the very last opportunity to drive a
>  DeLorean around the test track at the factory in Dunmurry >>
>
> Why?
>
> -Wayne
> 11174
>
>
>
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