From: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:43 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 139

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Strange hesitation
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

2. Front Spoiler
From: Jonathan Miller <betaray_at_dml_kludge.org>

3. RE: Strange hesitation
From: "Doc" <doctor280_at_dml_email.msn.com>

4. Re: Driving from Phila (was Intro/Thanks...)
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Digest Number 136
From: burkephoto_at_dml_aol.com

6. Re: Steering Column help
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

7. Re: Front Spoiler
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Re: "Hot Wheels" type DeLoreans
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

9. Re: The Delorean Fall Foliage Tour
From: pantera74l_at_dml_aol.com

10. Overheating...hot...hot...hot!!
From: "Jared Williams" <actually_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

11. My good road trip experience!
From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. Windscreen Prices
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>

13. microswitch and idleing
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

14. Re: "Hot Wheels" type DeLoreans
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

15. Re: microswitch and idleing
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

16. D's for sale (kinda silly)
From: "DMC Wannabe" <jzd_88mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. Reliable, Automatic D wanted
From: bduncan_at_dml_visualmining.com

18. Re: Theft Survey.. just curious
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

19. Gone for awhile.
From: Lee <lseiler_at_dml_radiance.com>

20. Windows Backgrounds
From: Ryan Stroschein <rstroschein_at_dml_mn.rr.com>

21. Re: My good road trip experience!
From: rorx77_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:26:53 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Strange hesitation

Scott, 
First I would look at the rubber boots covering the spark plugs. If they leak 
then water will be in the spark plug holes. Blow out and drive on, but 
sometime replace the wires with a good seal. My second choice is the dist cap.
John



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:25:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Miller <betaray_at_dml_kludge.org>
Subject: Front Spoiler

In removing my fron fascia I broke some of the rusted out bolts on my
front spoiler. Is there anyway to fix this? I only broke one or two, so
it's not a huge deal, but if there's anything I can do outside of
replacing the spoiler, I'd like to know.

TIA

-- Jonathan





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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:10:30 -0400
From: "Doc" <doctor280_at_dml_email.msn.com>
Subject: RE: Strange hesitation

 Is this water getting into the distributor?  If not, what's happened?
Thanks!!

Scott
-----------------------------------------------------
If you don't have the correct sparkplug wires or they are not sealed
correctly around the sparkplug holes, you will get water in the sparkplug
holes causing a miss. It is very unlikely that you have gotten water in the
distributor. With it's placement, it is covered by the engine lid keeping
the elements away from it.

Robert Starling,
Vin#05252







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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:55:07 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Driving from Phila (was Intro/Thanks...)

Hi Nate-
Where in PA are you starting out from?  You could probably link up with a D 
owner or two to give it a quick once over  Watch your temp and oil pressure 
carefully.  Driving it around the block is different from going 70 mph on the 
Penna Turnpike for hours on end.  Actually, I think I wouldn't go above 50, 
especially if the tires are the original NCT's.  I'd stay off the Turnpike 
altogether, in case of problems.  DeLoreans aren't any worse than any other 
18 year old car, but you'll be pushing it to the limits for  probably the 
first time in years. Your coolant hoses probably have some minor leaking.  
Check clutch and brake fluids levels before you blast off.  If you detect any 
problems on the road, park it!  My Neon's temp gauge redlined on I-95 in 
Philadelphia, and I didn't expect it... or notice it until a buzzer went off. 
 Who expects that in a 5 year old car? (I told my wife we should've been 
driving my dependable DeLorean!)  I had to have the head replaced on the 
Neon.  OWWW!  $$$$  Just be careful until you've checked it out personally, 
and replaced the old rubber and header bottle, if it's still the plastic one. 
 The adventure begins!

-Wayne
11174  (runs great at 70 mph on new Yokos!)



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:00:58 EDT
From: burkephoto_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Digest Number 136

In a message dated 7/19/00 3:52:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com writes:

<< > If I can compile a list of D's State Farm insures...I can prove the 
 > underwriters wrong and they will have to insure. 
  >>
Why in the world would you want to FORCE someone to take your money (provide 
insurance coverage)?  We can all attest to the fact that there ARE companies 
that are very happy to provide DeLorean coverage. 

If you are planning limited driving (3,000 miles/year) take a look at the 
specialty insurers like Hagerty that will provide stated value, full coverage 
for $300/year or less.

Burke



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:30:14 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: Steering Column help

Funny, when I was looking to purchase a DeLorean 7 years ago, one of the
first cars I drove felt odd because the steering wheel was so low.  I
asked the owner if it was adjustable, he said no.

It just seem very odd that it would be that low, so I looked under the
column to see if something was broken.  Sure enough, there was a little
back dial used to loosen the clamp and make the column adjustable!

As far as I know, all DeLoreans have this.


Jared Williams wrote:
> 
> How hard would it be to install a steering column with tilt?  My legs barely
> fit in the car, and are almost enough to make me not want to purchase this
> car...but I REALLY want it!  If I knew that there was a way of adjusting or
> replacing the steering column with tilt or something, that would be a big
> help.



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:51:41 -0400
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Front Spoiler

Jon, I just went through the same thing with my spoiler and rear fascia. What I did was I went to the hardware store and bought some stainless screws at the same thread size. I then cut the heads off, and had them tig welded to a little rectangle piece of stainless steel. It matched the same size of the piece that was in the spoiler. I then carefully cut out the old ones with a Dremel tool by cutting 3 of the four sides, peeled back the rubber material, slipped in the new stainless ones in their place, and folded the rubber material back over. Tadaa!! Stainless steel replacements. On the rear fascia, I had to cut the rubber material away totally, and epoxy those stainless pieces in. It's working perfectly! If you have access to someone who can weld stainless steel, you're in good shape. The pieces I made look similar to the pieces PJ Grady offers for the wind deflectors that are underneath the car. Those replace the rusty bolts that hold up the deflectors with 3 stainless bolts welded to a single strip of satinless steel. Same concept. If anyone needs any more info, e-mail me directly.

---Dan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jonathan Miller 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 12:25 AM
  Subject: [DML] Front Spoiler


  In removing my fron fascia I broke some of the rusted out bolts on my
  front spoiler. Is there anyway to fix this? I only broke one or two, so
  it's not a huge deal, but if there's anything I can do outside of
  replacing the spoiler, I'd like to know.

  TIA

  -- Jonathan






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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:27:50 +0800
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: Re: "Hot Wheels" type DeLoreans

These are produced in China by the truck load! They were recently in the
shops here in Hong Kong, so they are still being produced over the Border in
the big 'RED' (Commie) Zone.

I have to chuckle when I see them going for rediculous money on eBay!

Cheers,               IAN  (HongKong, China)
                                    6425 LHD and 0780 RHD
******************************************

----- Original Message -----
From: <deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: [DML] "Hot Wheels" type DeLoreans


> Awhile ago someone gave me a little DeLorean toy car when I bought some D
> manuals off e-bay.  It's metal, 2  3/4 inches long, the doors open, stock
> DeLorean.  The bottom says "DE LOREAN     P374  and has a Z in a circle
> emblem.  My wife put it out in the display case at our business, and kids
> keep asking if it's for sale!  I always say, "No, but you can take a look
at
> the real thing in the parking lot out back."  So, does anybody know where
I
> can buy little toy cars like this?  What a bizarre thing to sell in a
bakery,
> eh?
>
> -Wayne
> "Living the dream!"
> 11174  (big enough to drive)
>
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:37:02 EDT
From: pantera74l_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: The Delorean Fall Foliage Tour

There is no information in this email about the location. Could you tell us a 
little please.



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:52:07 -0700
From: "Jared Williams" <actually_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Overheating...hot...hot...hot!!

I'm not an afficionado of DeLoreans, but for those who are or who have
experienced quite a few days with one, answer me this;

How often does the DeLorean overheat with the stock fan cooling system?  How
often does it fail?  Is the FanZilla something I should purchase immediately
when I buy one?

Thanks!

-jw

P.S.  Again, the steering column thing was very helpful.  My knees feel much
better in it.  :)



----- Original Message -----
From: Jared Williams <actually_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:43 AM
Subject: [DML] Steering Column help


> How hard would it be to install a steering column with tilt?  My legs
barely
> fit in the car, and are almost enough to make me not want to purchase this
> car...but I REALLY want it!  If I knew that there was a way of adjusting
or
> replacing the steering column with tilt or something, that would be a big
> help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -jw
>
>
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: My good road trip experience!

Hey Gang

Have a good story to share with the list over the past
weekend i drove up to NJ from Washington DC to work
with Dan (danrc30) on getting in my new Recarro seats
put in! I had no experience mounting with new seats
and Dan had already performed the entired procedure on
his delorean with the exact same seats! 

Firstly id like to thank dan who took an entire day
and evening to design/install custom brackets he made 
and give them to me for my new seats and not ask for s
penny!  

My trip started out a mess and driving the 4 hours to
NJ with 2 rather large seats taking up the entire
cabin and providing me with NO VISIBILTY except out of
the drivers side and front was pretty crazy! #10854
ran smooth the whole way thanks to Rob grady and his
new suspension Kit (which i wholey recommend if your
replacing your suspension) 

The only hicup i experienced was a lead came off my
ignition coil and stranded me on a VERY busy VERY
narrow strip of I-95 shoulder (it was so narrow i was
scared to even open the door).  Took me about 5 mins
to figure out what happened.. (which previously took
me a whole month a massive phone bills to DMC-joe)
Anyways reattached the wire and off i went.  

Got up to NJ and met dan... who btw is a extremely
nice and very into deloreans (ask him about what hes
doing to his car right now JEEZ!)

The big word of that day was luck, we needed parts for
the electrical harness that powers the FULLY electric
seats and other odds and ends.  So a trip over to
radio shack was in order. We get there and OMg they
were closed at 6pm on a saturday, this was not good..
if we didnt get those parts.. my trip was for nothing
or i would have had to crash out at dans place till
sunday.  

Dan banged on the store window and a reluctant store
worker emerged from the back and after explaining our
situation let us in to get the parts! Whew...

We worked (more like i watched... dan worked) till
evening exeprienced a couple more close calls with
wrong parts or ill fittings, but managed to either
customize or substitute out the problems.

The job was finished around 9pm and DAMN, I really
must say that having new up-to-date seats makes a HELL
of a difference to the car.  Firstly im not the
tallest and biggest of guys (5'8/135p) and i always
felt like i was one of those grannies barely seeing
over the steering wheel.  The new seats and brackets
raise the seats about a Inch and provide hell of a lot
better visibility.  Before whenever i looked out the
side window i had a bigass bar blocking my view.. now
im just over it and get a better picture of whats
going on.  

Also the seats are super conforming and i had always
felt that the stock seats just sucked.. they dont
provide any lateral or lumbar support.. whenever i
would take a turn i would feel like i was sliding out.
NOT ANYMORE.  Im glued in..  It total feels like they
should have come stock with the car.  They also
provide alot more shock dampering.. combined with the
new shocks.. the ride is smoooth.. no more jarring or
bucking around.  Finally best of all the seats match
my grey interior PERFECTLY and Just give the interiour
a nice modern look.

Needless to say the ride home was THE best ride i have
ever had in the car.  So a big thanks to Danrc30 for
helping me out! Anyway thought this fit in as a good
Delorean story.

-Cliff Andrews


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 20:15:10 +0100
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Windscreen Prices

Hi everyone

Just a quick question to see what kind of price people are 
paying for a new front DeLorean windscreen (with or without the DMC logo).

cheers 

Jim




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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:39:43 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: microswitch and idleing

Hello,
    I finally got my car running again after it stalled in the street last 
week.  My car will only stay running when the full throttle microswitch(parts 
manual 2/3/0 #15) is depressed.  When I bought my car there was a bread tie 
around it keeping it pressed in.  when the car is running and you take the 
bread tie off, the car will go to a VERY low idle and the car will shake and 
eventually die out. 
    Why does it go down to such a low idle?  The microswith triggers the 
acceleration enrichment circuit, right?  I can here it start to buzz when I 
press the switch down.  any ideas on how to get my car to idle correctly.  It 
idles pretty high with the switch on all the time.  the car will not be 
driven for a few more months But I would like to get this figured out.

Thanks in advance
dave
#2496-carpet goes in soon.



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:50:34 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: "Hot Wheels" type DeLoreans

Yes, we have a few of  them in the DOC uk, cost is about 3 each plus
postage   . email me privately if you want to take it   further.
chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net


----- Original Message -----
From: <deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 2:30 AM
Subject: [DML] "Hot Wheels" type DeLoreans


> Awhile ago someone gave me a little DeLorean toy car when I bought some D
> manuals off e-bay.  It's metal, 2  3/4 inches long, the doors open, stock
> DeLorean.  The bottom says "DE LOREAN     P374  and has a Z in a circle
> emblem.  My wife put it out in the display case at our business, and kids
> keep asking if it's for sale!  I always say, "No, but you can take a look
at
> the real thing in the parking lot out back."  So, does anybody know where
I
> can buy little toy cars like this?  What a bizarre thing to sell in a
bakery,
> eh?
>
> -Wayne
> "Living the dream!"
> 11174  (big enough to drive)
>
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:44:12 -0400
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: microswitch and idleing

Try adjusting your CO to a more richer setting. This will get your engine to
idle and then you can work on the other problems.
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: [DML] microswitch and idleing


> Hello,
>     I finally got my car running again after it stalled in the street last
> week.  My car will only stay running when the full throttle
microswitch(parts
> manual 2/3/0 #15) is depressed.  When I bought my car there was a bread
tie
> around it keeping it pressed in.  when the car is running and you take the
> bread tie off, the car will go to a VERY low idle and the car will shake
and
> eventually die out.
>     Why does it go down to such a low idle?  The microswith triggers the
> acceleration enrichment circuit, right?  I can here it start to buzz when
I
> press the switch down.  any ideas on how to get my car to idle correctly.
It
> idles pretty high with the switch on all the time.  the car will not be
> driven for a few more months But I would like to get this figured out.
>
> Thanks in advance
> dave
> #2496-carpet goes in soon.
>
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
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> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 01:52:57 -0000
From: "DMC Wannabe" <jzd_88mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: D's for sale (kinda silly)

    Dear list,
  I was surfing the other day on yahoo classifieds and came across 
a "GMC" Delorean for sale. Taking great offence to this I wrote the 
person(s) with the correct "DMC". I just checked and found this in 
reply. This is just as I got it and is all I know:
 
 Thanks for your info.  Our add agency cant read our writing or made 
a type "o".  Well try and get it corrected.  This vehicle has a 
deposit on it at this time.  We do however have two more for sale.  
One auto with 24k on it and one stick with 8k miles on it.  If you 
are interested please call for details or E-M me with your # and I'll 
call you.  Thanks again for your interest.  Hope to hear from you 
soon.  Ron Fortune.   316-263-2247  
PS:  As you probably know GMC isnt too remote as John Delorean was 
with GM for years as I think he helped on the Corvair and the Ferio 
was his invention.  A great man with vision.  

   OK I'm back.  Was John involved with the corvair? I seem to recall 
him being in the (ill fated) Vega thing but not Corvair. what about 
the Fiero?  It looks very similar to our beloved beauties but...
  Anyway, I'm rambling now so till next time...
  Stay Stainless,
  The DMC Wannabe
  P.S. Hey Tom you said you wanted a low mileage stick D. Heres your 
chance.  One is a stick with 8k, give Ron a call and let me know how 
it turns out OK?





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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 02:52:04 -0000
From: bduncan_at_dml_visualmining.com
Subject: Reliable, Automatic D wanted

Well, I'm finally ready to commit.  I am looking for
a reliable automatic D.  Preferrably an 81' with
black interior.  I am really interested in the car
having all of the safety updates done on it already.
Things like the relays, Fanzilla, Lockzilla, etc...
I plan on enjoying this car the way it was intended 
to be enjoyed....by driving it!  Very low mileage 
trailer queens needed not apply.

I am willing to travel to come pick up the car,
probably as far as 15 hours driving time (I live in
MD).  So Alabama, for instance, is not out of the
question.

I would really like to buy a car from someone on
the list...rather than take my chances with a dealer
or an "investor".  I'd like to buy one from a real
DMC fan.

Unlike most of the other "wanted" posts the list
gets, I am not looking to get a D on the cheap.  I
realize what the going rate(s) are.

Thanks in advance.
Bruce




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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:17:33 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Theft Survey.. just curious

Hank,

Thefts and attempted thefts of DeLoreans are very rare. Most standard theft
methods do not apply to the DeLorean. The doorlock system is virtually pick
proof, the ignition and electrical set-up are totally unfamiliar to most car
thieves. In dealing with DeLoreans since 1983 I don't know of any incident
of thefts or attempted theft of a DeLorean.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hank Eskin <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 10:37 PM
Subject: [DML] Theft Survey.. just curious


>
> Hello All,
>
>   I've been pondering the chance of having a Delorean stolen or broken
into.
> So, what better source of info than the DML.  So, if people would be kind
> enough to *email me*  (heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net)  the answers to these
> questions, I'll compile the results and post a summary in about a week.
> Unfortunately, the eGroups Poll only handles one question at a time, so I
> couldn't use that facility.
>
> 1. Have you ever had your Delorean stolen?
> 2. If so, was it recovered?  It's condition upon returning home?
> 3. Have you heard of anyone else's Delorean being stolen?
> 4. Optional: How much theft protection do you currently have on your D?
> (Alarm, fuel/ignition/battery cut-offs, LoJack, The Club, etc.)
> 5. Have you ever had your Delorean broken into?
> 6. If so, how was it done? (picked lock, broken window [toll or fixed
> window?])
> 7. Do you think it is necessary to invest in theft and/or break-in
> protection? How much?
>
> Please answer by question number or quote the question in your answer.
> Thanks for your time.
>
> -Hank  #1619





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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:58:36 -0700
From: Lee <lseiler_at_dml_radiance.com>
Subject: Gone for awhile.

Note: Lee posted this once already but I think he wants all concerned to be sure to understand his delema so when he posted it again I approved it again.

Bruce Benson, this weeks moderator

To ALL:

	To all interested DML list members and our moderators -

It appears that the ISP provider for Radiance Software/Totalimmersion LLC 
has gone belly
up stranding most of it's ISP clients.  I have had no end of problem with 
this ISP as many of the limited edition owners know. Over the week end 
ISPChannel simply shut down their servers and dumped all its clients 
Internet and e-mail files.

This means that all the limited edition mail and replies over the week end 
and up until about an hour ago were lost for ever.

Ken Montgomery and I have spent all day attempting to correct what we 
thought was our problem only to discover that the ISPChannel simply decided 
not to be in the provider business and pulled the plug. Radiance and 
Totalimmersion are for all practical purposes out of business on the 
Internet until a new provider can be found, domain name transfers completed 
and setting up all new sites.

Ken has managed to get ISPChannel to set up Radiance for a few days as an 
accommodation (probably to avoid facing legal consequences).

Please: if you have sent me e-mail regarding your edition or expected to 
hear from me over the past 5 days, expect that those e-mails were dumped 
and lost for ever.

Please: don't worry as soon as Ken and I get moved and e-mail running we 
will announce it here.
I will re-post all the replies that may not have gotten sent. I will 
continue to finish up the old edition and setting up the extension. Again 
if you were becoming an edition owner or had questions, all that will pick 
up when I have on-line e-mail access again.

I apologize to the list members for having to use this forum and the waist 
of time but I don't know of any other fast fix for the problem, and did not 
want any edition owners to feel I was just not bothering to reply or answer 
edition questions.

Thanks again.......


Lee

CAUTION :   Any individual or group discharging a nuclear device or weapon
inside Los Angeles city limits may be fined $500 - and/or serve 30 days in 
county jail.

It's the LAW!




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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:43:01 -0500
From: Ryan Stroschein <rstroschein_at_dml_mn.rr.com>
Subject: Windows Backgrounds

Hey Everyone,

I made some Windows Backgrounds from the 16 page brochure.  They are the pictures with the blue background (Front, Rear, Side, and Frame).  What I did was smooth out the blue color so it was solid.  That way if you have a large monitor, you can center the picture and then set the background colors to RED 79, GREEN 128, BLUE 191.  The result is that you cannot tell where the picture ends and background begins.  You must be running at least 16 bit resolution.

If you're like me and have to have a tidy looking desktop, then these are for you.  They are posted in the vault as "Brochure Backgrounds.zip"  Approx 1.2Mb.  http://www.egroups.com/files/dmcnews/Brochure+Backgrounds.zip

Enjoy,
Ryan
vin #1132

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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:51:35 EDT
From: rorx77_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: My good road trip experience!

Cliff!, what model recaros did you get?  Can you post a pic on how they look 
in your "D". How much work was the bracket set-up?


THANX
Rory
vin#3010



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