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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Speakers...
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: Crying DeLorean thread is dead
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

3. Purchasing questions!
From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Re: Cadillac By Delorean
From: Trevor L L Johnson <comet6974_at_dml_juno.com>

5. Re: Field Trip Report: Mark DeLorean Fundraiser
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

6. Re: Seeking Used Fuel Distributor
From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye_at_dml_creativeworlds.com>

7. Re: rear speaker removal
From: ledgend2_at_dml_aol.com

8. DeLorean Car Show UPDATE
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

9. Re: Delorean Limited Edition
From: "Bobby D. Mims" <bmims_at_dml_ut-texas.com>

10. John Z DeLorean
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

11. Tachometer Needle
From: "Heywood, Nick" <nheywood_at_dml_acxiom.com.au>

12. Re: Speakers...
From: sharkywtrs_at_dml_aol.com

13. Looking for Chase Clark VIN#1529
From: "mike/russ" <mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com>

14. coolant lines
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>

15. Re: Re: Cadillac By Delorean
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4_at_dml_osu.edu>

16. Re: Tachometer Needle
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4_at_dml_osu.edu>

17. Re: Torsion bar,door
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

18. Re: Tachometer Needle
From: "Kevin Rawlings" <blast59_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:28:00 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Speakers...

Hey List,

     Now that I have the panels of my car off I want to get new speakers for 
it and I was searching online for some speakers and I came across 2 that I 
liked.  I don't want to go crazy with the speakers I just want to use the 
original mounting points and not add any more speakers.  I found a speaker 
that I think should fit in the space for it in the rear of the car at URL:

http://www.sound-creations.com/Speakers/AS41.htm?cart=30385015892339

 And I found speakers that I like for the front at URL:

http://www.sound-creations.com/Speakers/AS31.htm?cart=30385015892339

  I was just wondering if you think these speakers are good for my car and if 
they will fit in the Delorean  or maybe you might tell me a better speaker 
for the DeLorean.  Thanks!

Later,
Nick
VIN#1852


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:42:07 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: Crying DeLorean thread is dead

Enough about the dented car sporting a spare tire.  This thread is dead.

- Mike Substelny
Moderator of the week



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:51:01 CDT
From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Purchasing questions!

Group,

      If one is buying a DeLorean that runs and drives and has "few" 
problems as seen in a first inspection, what should be the first things you 
tackle in trying to get the car up to optimum running order and daily driver 
status? Any secrets to avoiding costly repair bills?

Thanks,
Sean
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:18:50 -0700
From: Trevor L L Johnson <comet6974_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: Cadillac By Delorean

What Is the site about? It just looks like a cadillac site. Is it like a
conversion company or something?
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:33:16 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Field Trip Report: Mark DeLorean Fundraiser

>Last night DMLers Ken Koncelik, David Levey, Josh Haldeman, and myself
>attended the political fundraiser of Mark DeLorean, candidate for
>Cuyahoga County Commissioner.  My wife Patti, though not a DMLer, was
>there as well.
>
>As advertised, the keynote speaker was John Z. DeLorean.  The speech he
>gave could have put Ronald Reagan to shame.  He was witty, highly
>intelligent, polished, and straightforward in his opinions.  It was a
>pleasure to be in the audience.
>
>


Any chance the speech was recorded, with or without video?

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.usadmc.com



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:05:03 -0500
From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye_at_dml_creativeworlds.com>
Subject: Re: Seeking Used Fuel Distributor

Hi Joe,

I'm not really sure if I do, but the symptoms are pointing to the fuel 
distributor.  The mechanic thought #4 cylinder was dead because it was 
getting spark, but not fuel.  He replaced the injector, and then #3 stopped 
working.  I had a ton of water in the tank over the winter (and probably in 
the engine/lines).  If you have any other ideas, it would be very 
appreciated!!!

Thanks.

-Daniel

At 11:14 PM 4/12/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Dan,
>
>Are you absolutely sure your fuel distributor is NG?
>
>DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
>Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
>.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye_at_dml_creativeworlds.com>
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:41 AM
>Subject: [DML] Seeking Used Fuel Distributor
>
>
> > I'm looking for a functional used fuel distributor, possibly from one
> > of you guys who have otherwise cooked or worn out your engine.
> > Please reply privately.
> >
> > Also looking for an exorcist that specializes in DeLoreans. :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan McGauley
> > hawkeye_at_dml_creativeworlds.com
>
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:56:14 EDT
From: ledgend2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: rear speaker removal

 
 
   You should NOT cut the trim that overhangs the panel, when reglued this 
helps hold the panel in place and is why a minimal number of screws are used. 
 If you use a hair dryer or heatgun properly you don't need to cut anything.. 
-Dave


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:04:13 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Car Show UPDATE

Well we did it again
another addition and I apologize if I mentioned this one earlier but it has 
now been confirmed.
The DeLorean Tow Truck 
(a D made to tow)
is going to make its appearance at the show in Cleveland.  We will have the 
car available Friday night in the museum if insurance allows us to and all 
day saturday.
Come and see this rare D in action 
Watch out Stephen I think he has eyes on your motor home.

check out this car and the gold Car on the <A 
HREF="http://deloreancarshow.com">Delorean Car Show Web Page</A>


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:16:34 -0500
From: "Bobby D. Mims" <bmims_at_dml_ut-texas.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean Limited Edition

I have not received mine but Lee has responded to me each time I contacted
him.
Bob Mims
Tyler, Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: Cecil Longwisch <dmc1982_at_dml_compaq.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:22 PM
Subject: [DML] Delorean Limited Edition


> Has everyone on the list got their Limited Edition model from Lee? There
> hasn't been much talk about them. I have written emails to him without a
> response and since I paid in full two years ago I am getting concerned.
>
> Cecil Longwisch
> #10663
> IL  DMC1982
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:20:33 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: John Z DeLorean

I had the pleasure to finally meet John Z DeLorean himself in person 
Wedensday night at his Nephew's Commissioner Kickoff campaign gathering.  
John was of course the main speaker and as Mike pointed out made quite a 
political debut.  Even got after Bob Dole and Viagra.

There is so much to say that there is not enough space here to say it but the 
one thing that I did see was his appreciation of the DeLoreans.  As he was 
leaving he came over to my car and asked me about it.  After seeing it he 
commented that it looked better than when it left the factory and he just 
looked it over for a few minutes then we had our picture taken.  
His brother Charles who sold me the car told me if he knew it was that good 
he would have charged me more.


A great Family and a Great car

for pictures of the DeLorean family (and me, sorry lol)
they will be posted in the next day or so on my web page
<A HREF="http://deloreancarshow.com">deloreancarshow.com</A>

The show is filling up fast and I am starting to work on alternate hotels 
There is no question that the 80 rooms at the Holiday Inn will be gone within 
the week there are less than 10 left. 
I will post alternatives once I find them.
There is also an antique car show going on at the same time at Burke 
Lakefront airport, a five minute walk (10 minute drive).

In addition I have the pleasure to announce that there will be airbrushed 
T-shirts with no two alike that will be available featuring all models 81-83 
plus the Brandy's time machine.  

The shirts will be comprably priced as you would find them anywhere else 
starting at $40.00 and up. So far the most expensive one is $79.00
Wanna guess which one?

I can also put a picture of you and your D on a T-shirt and if you send me 
the pictures before the show they are $8.00 at the show it will be $10.00 one 
side $12 two sides.

Photos of you and your car on an 8 1/2 x 11 will be $10.00 and a 4x6 will be 
$5.00 if you want them I will supplyy the digital camera for it so if you 
don't have a camera don't worry.

The photos can be taken the day of the show or at the Crawford and we will 
try to process them there while you wait.  I am looking for computer 
volunteers to help me on this one I have two printers to run plus a show.

Any volunteers????

There is still more to come in the next few days
(contracts are a pain)

Ken


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:12:24 +1000
From: "Heywood, Nick" <nheywood_at_dml_acxiom.com.au>
Subject: Tachometer Needle

Dear List

I have a question, which is making me very curious. Why is it that on a lot
of DeLorean photos I have seen of the dashboard, the tacho needle is a bit,
er, vertical....? I'm sure it's not a idling problem, but it is bugging me a
bit! Anyone care to explain?

Thanks

Nick


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:17:44 EDT
From: sharkywtrs_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Speakers...

As far as the front, I can't comment on those, I still have craigs running in 
them.  The back though, I did replace with Pioneer TS-A4103.  Very good for 
rear speakers.  You can find them at crutchfield.com


Scott


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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:28:24 -0400
From: "mike/russ" <mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com>
Subject: Looking for Chase Clark VIN#1529

Hi Gang!

Sorry to have to post to the list but I'm trying to contact Chase.

The old email address from the archives is dead as well as the new
aol address in the updated version of the Owner's Directory.

Chase if you're out there - contact me.  I'm your new best friend. :)

I have your original DMC window sticker.

Thanks
mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com
VIN#17089





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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 06:04:00 PDT
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: coolant lines

Hey guys:

I am going to replace all of the hoses and coolant and temp sensor very soon 
(because they are all original).  What I am wondering is about the hoses 
that are "under the manifold".  I guess you have to remove the manifold?  
Question: what is the cost for these hoses (four?) and the gasket for the 
manifold?  Is there anything else I will need other than the gasket and 
hoses and clamps?  How long should this project take? Also, do you seal the 
gasket with a sealer?

Thanks,

Brian
16584
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:11:27 -0700
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: Cadillac By Delorean

    DeLorean Cadillac is a car dealership in Cleveland, Ohio previously
owned by Charles DeLorean. (John's brother) It is now  owned by Charles'
son Mark, who is the guy running for County Commissioner.  The website has
been in the works for a while now, and was finally uploaded sometime in the
last few weeks.
    It's interesting because this is John's family, they are very nice
people and it's nice to see that they are doing well!  It has a link to
DMC Houston and a breif mention of the D2K show in June simply because Mark
and his company know what a great car we have.  The web site is however
mainly for the Cadillac dealership, so that's what's there mostly.  If you
missed it the first time the URL is:
http://www.deloreancadillac.com
    If you're in the market for a car that holds more than two people, buy
a Cadillac from this man!!
    Ciao,
    Josh
    VIN 5102
    VIN 15964

PS-John's speech was very humorous and overall he's the kind of guy that
everybody would want to be friends with.  I'll upload the images I took at
the event to my website soon!




Trevor L L Johnson wrote:

> What Is the site about? It just looks like a cadillac site. Is it like a
> conversion company or something?



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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:23:35 -0700
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Tachometer Needle

Nick and whoever else might be wondering,
    The most likely explanation of this phenomenon is that when the DeLorean
engine is shut off, the tach usually doesn't return to zero but rather freezes
where it was last, or sometimes jumps a bit higher.  When you crank the engine
the tach returns to zero until the engine has started.
    Given that the electronics are made by Lucas may help to explain the needle
jump.  It also does other sorts of weird things, like when the battery power is
low on mine, the tach needle will spin around violently.  My Dad's is not
connected properly and jumps around all the time.  Who knows what other
"indicators" Lucas thought they were putting in to help, but are generally just
a hinderance!  However, it is still the most reliable guage by which to judge
your speed when your speedo cable and/or angle drive break.
        Josh
        VIN 5102
        VIn 15964


"Heywood, Nick" wrote:

> Dear List
>
> I have a question, which is making me very curious. Why is it that on a lot
> of DeLorean photos I have seen of the dashboard, the tacho needle is a bit,
> er, vertical....? I'm sure it's not a idling problem, but it is bugging me a
> bit! Anyone care to explain?
>
> Thanks
>
> Nick
>
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:59:13 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Torsion bar,door



>From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DML] Torsion bar,door
>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:20:43 -0400
>
>This job is best left to a professional with the right tools.
>
>A mistake is easy to make (especially without the right tools), and the
>mistake could cost you your rear window, a torsion bar, or a hand!

A HAND?!?
Is this true? Can you actually risk loosing your hand?
I know there's lot of stored power in those torsion bars, but still...
True or false?

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:30:49 EDT
From: "Kevin Rawlings" <blast59_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tachometer Needle

  I wondered this myself at first, but I believe that the reason for this is 
the electronic instrumentation.  I suppose when the car shuts off, the 
needle holds at whatever position it was at last.  I can't tell which cars 
are running in the pictures and which aren't!

Kevin
DRIVE STAINLESS


>Dear List
>
>I have a question, which is making me very curious. Why is it that on a lot
>of DeLorean photos I have seen of the dashboard, the tacho needle is a bit,
>er, vertical....? I'm sure it's not a idling problem, but it is bugging me 
>a
>bit! Anyone care to explain?
>
>Thanks
>
>Nick
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