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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 161

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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Dead Speedometer
From: cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com

2. reserve Wheel with tire
From: cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com

3. Re: Door opening caveats
From: "Christopher M. Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>

4. Found a car with possible PRV V6....
From: "Toscano" <toscano2_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

5. Torsion Bars supply
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>

6. ADMIN: Search utility fixed
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

7. Interesting Stainless Steel Info
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

8. Re: Temperature guage dead
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

9. cats for sale
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>

10. Re: Engine Compartment LIGHT Wiring Question.
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

11. RE: Door opening caveats
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

12. Project Delorean Site Update 8/7/00
From: jus4sho_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: Torsion Bars supply
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

14. Re: Torsion Bars supply
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:26:29 +0200
From: cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com
Subject: Re: Dead Speedometer




Hi Matthew

If you need a new Speedometer ore a Angle Drive I would have both in Stock

Christoph Wirz
De Lorean Automobile





"Matthew P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com> on 07.08.2000 03:45:05

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cc:    (bcc: Christoph Wirz/atraxis/APD)

Subject:  [DML] Dead Speedometer




Greetings,
        My speedometer is being stubborn and has decided not to work.  I
have to get my car to a shop a few hours away to have a real DeLorean
mechanic look at it and repair the problem.  Does anyone have speeds at
different gears by RPM so I can try to avoide a speeding ticket?  Any help
is greatly appreciated.

Matthew
VIN #10365



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:35:26 +0200
From: cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com
Subject: reserve Wheel with tire




Someone was looking for a Reserve wheel.
Please send me a mail again.
I have this in Stock


Christoph Wirz
De Lorean Automobile
wirz_at_dml_delorean.ch





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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:05:23 +0100
From: "Christopher M. Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Door opening caveats

A thread on my food-crunch door vision was not expected.

At time of writing I forgot about the maximum height being less than 6 feet
when open.  It just goes to show how well designed the DMC gullwings really
are.

Knowing this you can let your door shoot upwards at speed (assuming you have
healthy gas-struts) knowing that providing nothing is nearer than 12-14
inches and less than 5' 10" from above the door, it will reach its final
destination intact.

The low section of roof seemed very low but as a van would be wrecked if
attempting to 'aquire some grub' it must have been an illusion and therefore
be at a height suitable for all vehicles.


Christopher M. Hawes


----- Original Message -----

> "Christopher M. Hawes" wrote:
>
> some of the fast food drive-in places in the UK have a low roof section
> to shield the cars from the rain and an inexperienced DeLorean owner not
> knowing how much height clearance is needed would pull up flick the door
> open switch and hear the 'crack' of the door mirror and scrapping of
> stainless steel as it is elevated into the roof of the drive-in

Wow!  Just how low are these "low roof sections"?  The DeLorean door, when
fully opened, has an elevation of slightly less than 5'10" from grade (not
counting the mirror).  This means that most any pickup truck or van would
not clear the roof.  And many people (including myself) would bump their
heads when walking by.  I would not think the building code would allow
that low of a roof over a drive-thru.

As an aside, most people think that it is impossible to get out of a
DeLorean in a close quarters parking situation when in fact the door only
extends
about 11" from the car as it opens, and only about 6" when fully opened.
This
would actually make it easier to get out of than a conventional door which
would
have to open considerably more that 11" in order to get out.  For example,
the
door on my 4-door family sedan extends over 3 feet when fully opened.  A
2-door
would extend even more.

Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982





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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 05:46:53 -0700
From: "Toscano" <toscano2_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Found a car with possible PRV V6....

A guy at work is selling a 1978 Volvo 262 Bertone, out of curiousity I took a peek under the hood and the engine in there appears to be a PRV V6. Thursday I first saw it and even the air filter housing looked like DMC, then Friday I brought my DMC shop manual to work and took another look and sure enough much of the engine looks identical.

Have I found a PRV V6? If I purchased this car just for the engine would it be useful in a D? 


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 10:22:38 -0400
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
Subject: Torsion Bars supply

Does anyone have an idea of what the supply of torsion bars look like?
I believe Grumman made them (yes,no?) and they are still in business.
I don't want to start a rush on buying up torsions bars but a recent
post said that when the current supply is gone, that's it.  Are we in a
limited supply situation?

Tom
#05732





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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 16:00:08 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Search utility fixed

I inadvertantly "broke" the archive search utility on the DMCNews web 
site a couple of weeks ago. It is now working again, although you 
will notice that the search utility for the archive is separate from 
searching rest of the site. I may clean up the interface a little 
more, but at least it is working now. 

Check at http://www.dmcnews.com/search.html and be sure to follow the 
link to the archive if that's what you want to search.

Remember you can always search the archives on the eGroups site http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/info.html as well, it goes back to 4/99 only. The Web archive is complete from to the beginning in 1995 to whenever I update it (currently mid-July). 

Sorry for any inconvenience. 

Dave Swingle




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:45:42 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Interesting Stainless Steel Info

I found this to be interesting.  It may be basic for some, but oh well..

http://www.marinemechanic.com/site/page180.html

This article talks about grades of Stainless, and so fourth.



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:46:34 -0400
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Temperature guage dead

Is your temperature guage pointing to the 6 o'clock position or the 7-8 o'clock
position?? This is important.

If it is at 6 o'clock means the pointer mechanism just fell passed the the guage
limits and needs to be pushed back up. Turn the ignition on. Stick a small wire
in through the trip reset hole and give the pointer a small nudge, it should pop
back up to the 7-8 o'clock position.

If the pointer is already at the 7-8 o'clock position it is probably a bad
electrical connection. Check the green/blue wire on the guage to the temperature
sender on the engine right rear cylinder head.

Dave Sontos
VIN 02573

MrCopies wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I've got a dead temperature guauge.  My cooling fans cycle properly on and
> off and the car doesn't appear to be overheating.
>
> I checked the archives and it mentioned loose/bad diode connections which it
> didn't appear to be when I went under my dash.




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 20:06:48 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: cats for sale

If anyone is interested, I have a couple used catalitic converters 
for sale.  They all appear to be in good condition.  If you are 
interested, make an offer.  I'll sell them for a good price.
I also have a pair of exhaust manifolds and a couple crossover pipes.

Erik Geerdink
4512




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:10:27 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Compartment LIGHT Wiring Question.

I took a look at my Delorean wiring and found the following:

The light switch has two wires coming out of it: a black and a purple/white.
This runs through a wiring harnes to the yellow plug/socket (the one closest
to the front of the car.)  Facing the rear of the connector, the
purple/white wire is the second from the bottom on the right side.

I cannot see what wires are going to the light fixture without disassembling
it, but the bundle of wires leaving that area show up at the wiring block at
the black plug/socket at the center bottom.  Facing the rear of this plug,
there is a purple/white wire on the right side, 3rd from the bottom and a
solid purple wire on the right side 4th from the bottom.

This is on a September '81 Delorean Vin #03633

Hope this helps.

Walt




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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:14:14 -0500
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Door opening caveats

This issue of open-door height has come up before:

  http://www.dmcnews.com/backissues/dml269.html

Look for the post from Murray Fisher that uses the work "ceiling".


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher M. Hawes [mailto:chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:05 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] Door opening caveats
>
>
> A thread on my food-crunch door vision was not expected.
>
> At time of writing I forgot about the maximum height being less
> than 6 feet
> when open.  It just goes to show how well designed the DMC
> gullwings really
> are.
>
> Knowing this you can let your door shoot upwards at speed
> (assuming you have
> healthy gas-struts) knowing that providing nothing is nearer than 12-14
> inches and less than 5' 10" from above the door, it will reach its final
> destination intact.
>
> The low section of roof seemed very low but as a van would be wrecked if
> attempting to 'aquire some grub' it must have been an illusion
> and therefore
> be at a height suitable for all vehicles.
>
>
> Christopher M. Hawes
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > "Christopher M. Hawes" wrote:
> >
> > some of the fast food drive-in places in the UK have a low roof section
> > to shield the cars from the rain and an inexperienced DeLorean owner not
> > knowing how much height clearance is needed would pull up flick the door
> > open switch and hear the 'crack' of the door mirror and scrapping of
> > stainless steel as it is elevated into the roof of the drive-in
>
> Wow!  Just how low are these "low roof sections"?  The DeLorean door, when
> fully opened, has an elevation of slightly less than 5'10" from grade (not
> counting the mirror).  This means that most any pickup truck or van would
> not clear the roof.  And many people (including myself) would bump their
> heads when walking by.  I would not think the building code would allow
> that low of a roof over a drive-thru.
>
> As an aside, most people think that it is impossible to get out of a
> DeLorean in a close quarters parking situation when in fact the door only
> extends
> about 11" from the car as it opens, and only about 6" when fully opened.
> This
> would actually make it easier to get out of than a conventional door which
> would
> have to open considerably more that 11" in order to get out.  For example,
> the
> door on my 4-door family sedan extends over 3 feet when fully opened.  A
> 2-door
> would extend even more.
>
> Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982
>
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:13:40 EDT
From: jus4sho_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Project Delorean Site Update 8/7/00

Hey, I'm getting on the ball here with keeping this thing up to date.  
(Digital cameras are great!) Since the last update I've finished the 
"smoothing" of the firewall and primering of it and also coated the frame.  
(Pics in the My D/Frame Restoration section)  I've also posted shots of the 
cleaned tranny as well as a rendering of what the custom interior might look 
like.

Feel free to check out Project Delorean at: 
www.angelfire.com/md2/projectdelorean

Steve Stankiewicz
VIN 2650  (a.k.a. Project Delorean)



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:47:08 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Torsion Bars supply

There is no need to worry about the future supply of torsion bars...

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

>Does anyone have an idea of what the supply of torsion bars look like?
>I believe Grumman made them (yes,no?) and they are still in business.
>I don't want to start a rush on buying up torsions bars but a recent
>post said that when the current supply is gone, that's it.  Are we in a
>limited supply situation?
>
>Tom
>#05732



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 02:59:51 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Torsion Bars supply

Torsion bar supplies seem no more limited than engines or doors. 
Unless there's been a run on them, I wouldn't worry. At 
the "warehouse open house" in Ohio a couple of years ago there seemed 
to be plenty. Hundreds. There are a lot of parts on a DeLorean with a 
finite quantity, luckily there is not a whole lot of demand for them 
either. 

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Does anyone have an idea of what the supply of torsion bars look 
like?
> I believe Grumman made them (yes,no?) and they are still in 
business.
> I don't want to start a rush on buying up torsions bars but a recent
> post said that when the current supply is gone, that's it.  Are we 
in a
> limited supply situation?




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