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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Any recommendations on a Service Facility
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219_at_dml_one.net>

2. Lees Keys
From: "Derrick Viane" <clarion9375r_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Re: Any recommendations on a Service Facility
From: Hank Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

4. Re: Alternative mirror suggestion
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

5. RE: Re: Interesting Stainless Steel Info
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

6. RE: Alternative mirror suggestion
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

7. Re: ground to whell well measurements
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

8. Dead Temperature Guage - Revived!
From: "MrCopies" <mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com>

9. used parts needed
From: AJL521_at_dml_aol.com

10. Delco Alternator
From: AJL521_at_dml_aol.com

11. Another Dead D found.
From: AJL521_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: Alternative mirror suggestion
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

13. Polishing the stainless steel
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

14. Re: Hood weather stripping solution creates new problem
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

15. Central Ohio Service Facility (Bauerle)
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

16. Re: Engine Compartment LIGHT Wiring missing.
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: Alternative mirror suggestion
From: "Frederick R. Embden" <fembden_at_dml_tco.com>

18. Rear QP vents wanted
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

19. Re: Alternative mirror suggestion
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

20. DeLorean Clubs (was New to the list)
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

21. Stainless Dent Removal !
From: Declan Kelly <declan_at_dml_seagreentech.com>

22. Important Shock Absorbers Questions!
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

23. New poll
From: "Matt Clark" <diashi_c_at_dml_hotmail.com>

24. Re: Alternative mirror suggestion
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

25. Re: Another Dead D found.
From: Owen3164ever_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:16:23 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219_at_dml_one.net>
Subject: Re: Any recommendations on a Service Facility

Joel
You'll find Dave alive & well and living & working in Radnor Ohio.
Radnor is a little town about 30 miles North of Columbus about 4 miles
off to the West of Route 23.

His address is:

Bauerle Automotive
Radnor Rd
Radnor, OH
43066

740-595-3348


Richard




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:17:52 GMT
From: "Derrick Viane" <clarion9375r_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Lees Keys

List,

   When I bought my D in Jan. I received only one set of actual DMC keys 
which were not in the best condition.  So like many of you I was in search 
of a replacement, and the parts suppliers did not have any.  Then I came 
across a post from Lee Seiler stating that in his spare time he make a 
replica of the ignition key.  So I sent him the money for a key($15.00+$2.50 
S/H)  I received the keys yesterday and I am very pleased with them.  So if 
you are looking for an ignition key Lee makes an excellent replica.  He is 
also in the process of getting started on the lighted door key.  So I thank 
Lee very much for the services he provideds for the DeLorean Community and 
for the service he has provided for me.  So to Lee from all of us who have 
had the pleasure of doing business with you we are very grateful for the 
stuff you make in your spare time.

Thank you,

Derrick Viane

Experience is not what happens to you; It is what you do with what happens 
to you.
Vin#1657

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:28:19 -0700
From: Hank Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Any recommendations on a Service Facility

Joel,

The direct URL to the advertisers in DeLorean World is
http://www.delorean-owners.org/market/adver.html

Hank Breer

"W.D.SEARLS, JR." wrote:
> 
<snip> 
I did check the DOA website and couldn't find Dave Bauerle
anywhere(yes I did check the marketplace). Thanks in advance.
> 
> Joel



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 01:48:16 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Alternative mirror suggestion

I thought a while back someone said that DMC Houston was looking into 
producing the mirrors for the DeLorean (convex mirrors?). Replacing a 
standard part w/an aftermarket one is fine as long as it meets or 
exceeds the manufacturers original specifications. You might be 
marked off points for the mirrors in a concourse judging. But if your 
car sees the road alot, the safety issue is way more important.

-Robert
vin 6585

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ever since first driving my DeLorean I wondered if it wouldn't be a 
good idea 
> to replace the outside mirrors (not the housing) with 'sphered' 
ones to 
> increase the visibility around the car. I now find the visibility 
through the 
> outside mirrors slightly limited. All cars nowadays are equipped 
with them 
> ("objects in mirror are closer than they appear"). I know it is 
inapropriate 
> (blasphemy even) to replace standard parts with new ones, but in 
the light of 
> safety this might be a good idea nonetheless.
> 
> I searched the archives and site for a post regarding this but I 
couldn't find 
> any. Has this issue been discussed before? And if yes, are 
there 'standard' 
> replacements available?
> 
> Sacha
> #17115




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:20:39 -0500
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Interesting Stainless Steel Info

How long to make the panels rust?  Probably never.

   http://www.dmcnews.com/backissues/dml089903.html

Read the message that contains the word " barnacles".


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Geerdink [mailto:delorean502_at_dml_excite.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:27 PM
> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Stainless Steel Info
> 
> 
> If a Delorean were to be submerged in water, how long would it take 
> for the panels to rust?  they said in the article that Stainless 
> steel needs oxygen in order preserve itself.  Wouldn't that be weird 
> to see a rusted Delorean driving around?  
> 
> Erik Geerdink
> 4512




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:41:32 -0500
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Alternative mirror suggestion

When I get bored in traffic, I will make a game of sizing up the rear-view
mirrors of the other cars, looking for a convex replacement for mine.  No
luck so far.  :-)

I found a Toyota replacement that was the right shape but about 2mm too
tall.  Funny thing about glass is that you can't really squeeze it into an
opening, as evidenced by the hundreds of tiny mirrors I ended up with.

I supposed I could get a piece custom-made but I'd rather get an
off-the-shelf part.   Still looking...


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sacha Prins [mailto:sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 6:05 PM
> Subject: [DML] Alternative mirror suggestion
>
>
> Ever since first driving my DeLorean I wondered if it wouldn't be  a good
idea
> to replace the outside mirrors (not the housing) with 'sphered' ones to
> increase the visibility around the car. I now find the visibility through
the
> outside mirrors slightly limited. All cars nowadays are equipped with them
> ("objects in mirror are closer than they appear"). I know it is
inapropriate
> (blasphemy even) to replace standard parts with new ones, but in the light
of
> safety this might be a good idea nonetheless.
>
> I searched the archives and site for a post regarding this but I couldn't
find
> any. Has this issue been discussed before? And if yes, are there
'standard'
> replacements available?
>
> Sacha
> #17115
>




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 02:54:58 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: ground to whell well measurements

I can tell you this, when the Delorean was made "larger" springs were 
crammed into the front suspension to raise the cars bumper heigth. 
The reason they did this was becasue the DOT was going to raise the 
bumper height requirement, so instead of DMC redesigning the entire 
suspension they shoved in bigger springs. I don't know why Nylon 
straps would be there or why anyone would place them there. If you 
are looking to lower your car to the original specified height the 
Delorean was designed to be at, I would recomend that you give Rob at 
PJ Grady a call as he has new front lowering springs or The Delorean 
Motor Company in houston where they have a complete set (front and 
rear) lowering springs. Do not do the old "cut the excess off" the 
spring trick, you will ruin the handling of the car.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Stephen Liggett" <stephen.liggett_at_dml_u...> 
wrote:
> Group,
> 
> I recently replaced the 215-60-RH 14 front tires on my D with the
> correct 195-60 RH 14 size. Now, it 
> seems that the gap between the top of the tire and the bottom of the
> wheel well rim is too big. On 
> further inspection, the previous owner had a nylon strap placed
> across the front end springs which is 
> tight. I wonder if he put on new springs to make room for the bigger
> wheels and the straps keep it from 
> being too high or springy. My measurements are:
> 
> 
> Ground to bottom of the rim of the wheel well=26 inches
> 
> top of wheel to bottom of rim of wheel well = 3 1/2 inches
> 
> Are these the dimensions for a stock vehicle?
> 
> Also, what is the recommended dimensions for a 'lowered' version?
> 
> Any comments on the nylon strap would also be appreciated.
> 
> Steve




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 23:01:29 -0500
From: "MrCopies" <mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com>
Subject: Dead Temperature Guage - Revived!

Hi Gang!

It never ceases to amaze me what a fantastic resource this list is.  Special
thanks to Dave Sontos for coming up with the answer to my problem.

For the benefit of the archive and for those of you who may also have a dead
temperature guage here's what Dave suggested.....

Check the connection at the temperature sensor.  Here's how to find the
sensor...You may need to remove the air cleaner first. Standing at the back
of
the car looking into the engine compartment, At the right side of the
engine, all the way at the back of the right cylinder head. The sensor
is on the inside face of the right cylinder head. Assuming the intake
manifold is on the inside face and the exhaust manifold is on the
outside face. You should see a green wire with blue stripe heading under
the intake manifold from the sensor. If you have a parts manual look at
section 1-1-5 item #45 is the sensor.

I simply cleaned the connection and the guage functions like new.  Sounds
like a pretty simple solutions - but man, oh, man can electrical gremlins
make you pull your hair out!

Thanks again for the help Dave!
mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com
VIN#17089
Windsor, Ontario
www.mydelorean.com





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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 23:43:05 EDT
From: AJL521_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: used parts needed

Hello everyone,

Well with winter coming fast, its time to start thinking about my projects 
for the D.  right now i'm in need of a grill, air dam, right front fender, an 
engine cover, a trunk mat, and a set of leather for the seats.  If anyone has 
any of these parts in fair or good condition send me an e mail.

I also plan on replacing the front and rear rotors, calipers, pads, and 
master cylinder.  But I plan on getting them new from one of the suppliers.

Thanks
Andrew
vin 4194



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 23:51:12 EDT
From: AJL521_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Delco Alternator

Hello again,

I just got a chance to install my new Delco Alternator from PJ Grady, let me 
just say, wow what a differance!  My overall performance of my delorean has 
inproved greatly.  The hesatation problems that I had before (when the 
headlights and the cooling fans were on) is gone, making my D much more of a 
pleasure to drive.  Their modafacations to the alternator and the wiring 
harness made instalation a snap.  It was well worth the money.

Andrew
vin 4194

PS: The new door struts work great also, a word of advice to everyone, no 
matter how much your doors sag, replace the struts before adjusting the 
tortion bars, my drivers door wouldent open at all on its own before the new 
struts, now it opens like brand new.



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:02:52 EDT
From: AJL521_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Another Dead D found.

Hi everyone

Well I found another dead D.  This one is at a service station in Geneva IL,  
the plates expired in 1988, thats right 1988,  it has just over 30,000 miles 
on the clock.  Its an 82, 5 speed with a gray interior.

I talked to the man at the service station who told me that the car was towed 
there in 1994, after sitting for an exteneded period of time.  It suffers 
from the typical fuel system problems, the owner of the car had the shop 
start working on the car, but never paid to have the job finished.  

So right now as it sits, its going to need a fuel pump, injectors, filter, 
possably a fuel distributor, 4 tires, a new battery, headliners, interior 
work, and door struts.  And thats just for starters. Theres no telling if 
theres frame damage

The shop owner said that the man who owns the car wont take anything less 
then $13,000.  Which Im sure everyone would agree is crazy.  Has anyone else 
in the chicagoland area seen this car



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:20:29 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: Alternative mirror suggestion

The 3 "factory" Right hand drives were (are) fitted with such mirrors, I
have been told that they were clearly labelled up as such..they were made in
Germany, but I suspect the only way to retro fit them today would be to find
a similar sized mirror and glue in on to the top of the origanal...I BET
SOME ONE HAS ALREADY DONE IT?

Chris P  DOC UK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 12:04 AM
Subject: [DML] Alternative mirror suggestion


> Hi,
>
> Ever since first driving my DeLorean I wondered if it wouldn't be a good
idea
> to replace the outside mirrors (not the housing) with 'sphered' ones to
> increase the visibility around the car. I now find the visibility through
the
> outside mirrors slightly limited. All cars nowadays are equipped with them
> ("objects in mirror are closer than they appear"). I know it is
inapropriate
> (blasphemy even) to replace standard parts with new ones, but in the light
of
> safety this might be a good idea nonetheless.
>
> I searched the archives and site for a post regarding this but I couldn't
find
> any. Has this issue been discussed before? And if yes, are there
'standard'
> replacements available?
>
> Sacha
> #17115
>
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:43:08 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Polishing the stainless steel

The previous owner of my DeLorean, on the day we paid him, said,"...and you 
can polish it with steel wool." He never said he did it himself, but I didn't 
really know if you were supposed to do that. Of course, knowing that all of 
you smart people would know a lot better, I checked out the many informative 
DeLorean sites and in the DeLorean FAQ, I found that you were not supposed to 
use steel wool, saying it would appear the the stainless steel was rusting, 
and it was actually the tiny bits of steel wool.

What I was wondering is:
Is there a way to see if the car was polished by steel wool? And if it has, 
is there a way to reverse it and take the tiny particles of steel out of the 
stainless steel? I wouldn't want my dream car looking like it was "rusting."

Thanks a lot,
John Feldman
VIN 4275



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:47:30 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Hood weather stripping solution creates new problem

Ed,

We remove the entire hood and lay it flat on its back whenever replacing the hood seal; makes the job much  easier. 

We may have some scrap pieces on a back shelf, I'll check it out and contact you directly if I find a piece.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ann & Ed Thompson 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com ; Ann & Ed Thompson 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 11:15 AM
  Subject: [DML] Hood weather stripping solution creates new problem


  I finally found an adhesive that will actually hold the hood weather stripping in
  place for more than a month or two.  It is a Permatex product called, duh, "Super
  Weatherstrip Adhesive", part #80".  This stuff really works great but I have created
  another problem unrelated to the adhesive. Regluing the weatherstrip is a very tricky
  operation, particularly around the corners and especially around the "hood flap"
  area.  I worked a small section at a time using heavy duty masking tape to hold
  each section in place until I was satisfied that it was completely cured.  No
  problems so far.  BUT, when I arrived at the end where the two ends meet I came
  up about 2 inches short.  Rather than try to redo the entire thing I would like
  to simply glue in a new short 2 inch section.  Problem:  Where does one find 2
  inches of OEM hood weather stripping without having to buy the whole thing?  I
  haven't tried the usual sources yet, I was hoping that someone might have a scrap
  piece sitting around that I could bum 2 inches from.  If so, please email me at
  <rapparivarat_at_dml_erols.com>.  I will be happy to send you a SASE, or payment if
  necessary, for your trouble.  I'm not looking for something for nothing, it's just
  that I have a problem spending a couple of hundred bucks for 2 inches of OEM
  weather stripping.  I'm only doing this for looks because this car is NEVER in the
  rain.  If I cannot locate a scrap piece I will just leave it as it is.  Thanks.

  Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)




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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 09:10:36 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Central Ohio Service Facility (Bauerle)

W.D.SEARLS, JR. wrote:

> I live in Central Ohio and plan on buying a Delorean here soon. I can't find
> a Dave Bauerle in the phonebook . . . (or on the DOA website).

From the DOA website:

Bauerle Automotive Inc.
Radnor, Ohio 43066
Phone: (740) 595-3348
DeLorean Accessories, Parts, and Service

Bauerle Automotive is a fairly large shop right on Radnor Road.  The fast route
to this information is to go to the DOA's new DeLorean Store:

http://www.deloreanstore.com/
And click on:
DeLorean Service and Parts

We keep bugging Dave Bauerle (pronounced BOW-er-lee) to get his own website.
When you talk to him maybe you could encourage him, too.

I spoke to Dave on Monday and he mentioned that he has a nice '81 for sale right
now.  Maybe he will let you take it for a test drive.

- Mike Substelny




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:01:38 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Engine Compartment LIGHT Wiring missing.

In a message dated 8/6/00 10:48:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mike_at_dml_mrcopies.com writes:

<< My engine compartment light wiring (purple, purple/white on the electrical
 chart) appears to be missing. >>

When I got my D, I noticed the engine compartment light was not working and I 
subsequently bought a bulb, assuming it was burned out.  Before I installed 
it, I noticed that the switch, supposed to be located on the upper left 
firewall where the plunger is depressed by the engine cover, was totally 
removed! 
Some owners have disabled theirs to prevent them from getting stuck on, 
melting the lens, and the hot plastic igniting after dripping on the red hot 
muffler.  (Hopefully an overreaction.)  But that may explain it.  

-Wayne
"Living the dream"
11174



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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:42:25 -0000
From: "Frederick R. Embden" <fembden_at_dml_tco.com>
Subject: Re: Alternative mirror suggestion

Sacha:
(In the past) I have replaced outside mirrows with "convex" ones 
(passenger side).  Any glass place (good ones) can cut to size a 
larger mirror to fit the DMC. I have thought about it but have not
yet done so.

- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ever since first driving my DeLorean I wondered if it wouldn't be a 
good idea 
> to replace the outside mirrors (not the housing) with 'sphered'
ones 
to 
> snip < 
> Sacha
> #17115




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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:33:29 -0400
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Rear QP vents wanted

Hello, all -- I am in need of a pair of the rear quarter panel vents.  If
you have a pair for sale, please contact me!  

Thanks,
Brian H.
- Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL
- http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm



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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:01:35 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Alternative mirror suggestion

In a message dated 8/8/00 8:37:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net writes:

<< e housing) with 'sphered' ones to 
 increase the visibility around the car. >>

I understand you can get small stick-on mirrors to do that.  Put it in the 
corner of your existing mirror.  Haven't done it myself.

-Wayne
11174



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:36:18 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: DeLorean Clubs (was New to the list)

Derric,

There is a relatively active club in AZ, though this time of year 
they are pretty quiet as it is so hot there. Randal Brown and Ryan 
McCaffrey seem to be coordinating most of the events, and I expect 
one or the both of them will get in touch with you.

The DMC-News website has a section of links to the various clubs 
around the world:

http://www.dmcnews.com/clubs.html

That would be my first stop if I wanted to meet owners in a particular area...

James



>Hello-
>
>I have never posted to this group before but have been reading the
>list over the past several weeks.  I am hoping to become an owner in
>the near future and the information and knowledge that I have gained
>from this list and the corresponding websites has been most helpful. 
>I would like to take this time to thank everyone who posts
>information to this list and also find out if there are any owners in
>the Phoenix, Arizona area.  If so, I would like to pick your brain
>and get a look at your car if possible.
>
>Thank you all again for your time and information,
>
>derric clark
>(future owner)



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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:59:50 -0400
From: Declan Kelly <declan_at_dml_seagreentech.com>
Subject: Stainless Dent Removal !

Hi All
	I have a question, I know that this is possible but has anyone
actually
	had this work done ... ! My roof panel has several creases in it.
Looks like the
	previous owner tried to adjust the tension bars and .... well you
know the rest.
	But anyway I would like to have it repaired.
 	A new one is costs approx $450 ... 

Thanks Declan ..


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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 22:43:34 GMT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Important Shock Absorbers Questions!

Hello list,

I have a few questions regarding the DeLorean's shock absorbers since I plan 
to get new ones on my DeLorean.

1) I've heard that the original FRONT shock absorbers are no longer 
available. The original REAR shock absorbers are supposed to be still 
available. Can anyone clarify/correct if this is true or not?

2) In any event, if both FRONT and REAR shock absorbers are available, are 
they as good as new after all these years in storage?

3) If replacements are available what is the best choice? And what 
modifications are necessary? Do they differ in function from the originals? 
If they do, then what are the advantages/disadvantages of the new ones?

Hope to get some clear and consise answers to my questions....

PS! Has someone else on this list ordered new window assys and new 
euro-springs from DMC Houston? If so, did you get instruction sheets 
together with the shipment???

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

VIN # 06759
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:04:12 -0000
From: "Matt Clark" <diashi_c_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: New poll

I'm not sure if this one has been done before, but the new poll is 
"What made you buy your De Lorean?"

You can place multiple answers

Thanks,

Matt
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:47:29 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Alternative mirror suggestion

I've seriously thought about this as well.  I was going to eventually post
that question, but you beat me to it.  Some people prefer flat mirrors for
the passenger side, but I really prefer the spherical ones.  And it bothers
me to no end that there is a text message etched in the glass reminding me
that objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.  Actually I think
they are farther away than they appear, but that's my opinion.

On a non-Delorean, I have upgraded the passenger mirror to a spherical one.
I found something close enough in a junk yard from a newer model car that
had the same outer shape.  I had a problem getting the new mirror to fit
because the mirror socket was made to take a flat mirror.  The spherical
mirror does not lay flat.  I fixed this by re-shaping the surface of the
mirror socket using a belt sander and then gluing the mirror on with black
silicone caulk and filling around the edges with my finger.  Whatever
adhesive is used, you need to be sure that it does not dissolve the
reflective layer.

Maybe a glass shop could come up with something?  I've been thinking about
getting a large passenger mirror off of a junker SUV and trimming it down to
fit the Delorean.  If I started with a mirror big enough, I could crop out
that silly text message etched on the glass.  But then maybe an auto glass
shop could do it easier.  If anyone tries this, I suggest keeping the center
of the mirror the same because using only one corner of a larger spherical
mirror may not give you a true sphere, but I don't know this as a fact.

I intend to do this to my Delorean eventually unless someone comes up with a
better idea.  If this hasn't been done before, I'll try to make up a few
extra mirrors for anyone else who may be interested.

Walt





But then again, I may be wasting my typing here.  An auto glass shop may
have everything on hand to do a better job.  Does anyone know?  But if
anyone else can't come up with a mirror without the silly text message
etched on the glass, then I'm definitely cutting one down from a larger SUV
mirror.

I don't recommend gluing the aftermarket bubble mirrors over the passenger
mirror.  Those are just too spherical to do any good that far away.  I
bought a car with one stuck on it.  It was such a good fit, I could never
get it off.




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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:45:53 EDT
From: Owen3164ever_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Another Dead D found.

I should take a look at it...there is another D. for sale in Elmhurst...it's 
on Spring Rd. by York High School off of St. Charles Rd.
It's parked in front of an "auto bath" place. i checked it out one day. Fully 
refurbished i believe...automatic...original engine...owner is asking 
$15,000. 
Later.
Justin



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