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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 174

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There are 23 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Jack and Virginia Stiefel
From: ciasleeper2_at_dml_aol.com

2. History of Fiberglass panels
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>

3. To cut or not to cut?
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>

4. Re: Questions on NOS Master Brake cyl
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

5. New Fascia Paint - Europe
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: lambda light on dash
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: Importing a Delorean to the USA
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

8. Re: Lees Keys
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

9. anyone intrested in a deloeran?
From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. Re: rebrushing a DeLorean
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

11. Late Model Exhaust Pipes and Concours
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

12. Re: Interesting Ebay Item.
From: comet6974_at_dml_juno.com

13. Re: cooling fan question
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

14. Re: cooling fan question
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

15. Lambda Unit
From: madmap70_at_dml_cs.com

16. RE: replacement panels
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>

17. All Cleveland videos shipped...
From: "TMasterLC_at_dml_msn.com" <tmasterlc_at_dml_msn.com>

18. Re: Digest Number 172
From: drinkware <drinkware_at_dml_lweb.net>

19. Charlotte NC car show
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>

20. Re: Importing a Delorean to the USA (Curious about Customs)
From: "Jason Johnston" <kenworth_77_at_dml_hotmail.com>

21. Re: Late Model Exhaust Pipes and Concours
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

22. Straight skinny on Hot Start Relay
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

23. DeLorean with twin turbo
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:56:34 EDT
From: ciasleeper2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Jack and Virginia Stiefel

I really hate to use the list for this but can Jack and Virginia Stiefel 
please contact me directly?

Thank you

Justin
5172



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:06:21 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: History of Fiberglass panels

I e-mailed the owner and this is what he said

Erik, 

     I collect TV/Movie cars & related items ... I got these panels 
in a 
large 
    lot of stuff I purchased a couple of years back when I was out in 
California. 

    To make a long story short, it's most likely (given where I got 
them) 
that 
    these were spare parts for the "Back To The Future" DeLorean. In 
scenes 
    where vehicles are destroyed (like the train track scene in 
BTTF), 
movie 
    companies dont prefer to trash a "real" car, so they build mock-
ups & 
the 
    like, and/or replace damaged parts with less expensive (like 
fiberglass) 
    parts. These partictular panels appear to be in new/unused 
condition. 

     I also have an entire fiberglass front nose section for a 
DeLorean 
here 
   too ... it too was in with that same stuff.  (And there's likely 
more if 
I really 
   ever take the time to go thru it all. :-) 







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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:19:04 -0400
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>
Subject: To cut or not to cut?

This idea has come up numerous times before, and I think I'm going to be brave enough to try it.  I have an 83, no flap.  But we all know that the fiberglass underside of the hoods has the marking for the flap.  The car has to go into the shop for some reconstructive surgery, so while it's there, I'm going to see about doing the fuel flap.  This guy is good with stainless steel, he's proved that already.  So we'll see what happens.  Wish me luck!!

Scott


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:26:08 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Questions on NOS Master Brake cyl

ALL the brake (and clutch) master cylinders sold by the major parts 
suppliers are aftermarket. There are no significant quantities of the 
originals left.

Original clutch SLAVE cylinders are still available, and are what is 
regularly sold by all the major vendors. We install them regularly 
with no problems. Worries about seals and pitted bores and are 
unfounded.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

>I have a few questions about the NOS Master Brake Cylinders. Is it
>advisable to buy them? I mean they have been sitting around for about
>20 years, wouldn't the seals have dried out? The bore be pitted by
>mositure? I don't know how they were pakaged, if they had any type of
>protective lubricant applied to them, etc. Would it be better to buy
>the aftermarket type from one of the Delorean Dealers? I heard that
>the Newer type ones do not come with the switch, how true is this?
>Also does anyone know the make and the part number of the aftermarket
>type Master Brake cyinders that will work in the Delorean without
>having to change the calipers to match it?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>Steve



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:59:07 GMT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: New Fascia Paint - Europe



Hi!
I just got my local garage to paint my front and rear fascias on my DeLorean 
VIN #06759. I gave them the DAU / DBC code, but they couldn't find any 
match. I post this message because I would guess that this is valid for 
other European owners also. American paint codes don't always correspond 
over here.

Anyway, what I did was to let my mechanic choose the silver color out of a 
catalog. I would have never gotten around to decide which one to use, so I 
trusted him to do that. Well, guess what? The new paint is 100% identical to 
the original one on the car. So my tip is - let your garage match up the 
right color! I think the color used on my car was an OPEL/VAUXHALL SILVER 
PAINT. I can get the color code for those interested.

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:26:00 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: lambda light on dash

In a message dated 8/15/00 8:59:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net writes:

<<  I just
 unhooked my light, I'm way too lazy.
  >>
Scott,

         If you think you are lazy....after I removed the binnacle on my car, 
I noticed that whoever owned the car when it passed over the 30,000 mark, 
instead of resetting the Lambda service counter and putting in a new O2 
sensor, they actually spent the time of removing the binnacle and removing 
the Lambda warning light bulb.  I still don't understand why they would go 
through all the trouble of removing the binnacle to remove the light bulb, 
but not replace the O2 sensor and reset the counter instead.  The wonders 
mechanics do to "troubleshoot" a problem on a car they don't know anything 
about.  

Later,
Nick
1852



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:43:33 +0800
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: Re: Importing a Delorean to the USA

Hi Eric,

Unfortunately I have no advice to offer you ... but you may be able to help
me! Who are you speaking to at US Customs (address, email)? I will be
bringing my DeLorean to USA in the next few months (temporary importation)
to have it refurbished in LosAngeles. I will then have it returned to
HongKong. I want to get all the Customs stuff sorted now to avoid $$$
suprises later!

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers,         IAN
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From: Eric J. Hennebury <ehennebury_at_dml_performconsulting.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:29 AM
Subject: [DML] Importing a Delorean to the USA


> Well, it's finally time to bring my Delorean south of the border with me.
I moved to the Sates from Canada a couple of years ago, and left my D behind
at my parents place due to a lack of a garage at my new home.  I have since
acquired a house with a garage an am looking forward to having my D with me
again.
>
> It looks like the process should be straight forward with one exception...
Customs is requesting a letter from the manufacturer stating that the
Delorean meets EPA emissions and DOT safety standards for the year in which
it was manufactured.  Any idea where I might procure such a document?  Dos
anyone have any experience bringing Deloreans into the USA (I know they tend
to go the other way).  Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Eric Hennebury
> VIN 17065
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:35:30 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Lees Keys

We have just received a new shipment of these key blanks from Lee at 
De Lorean Motor Company. they are $24.95 each, plus shipping. Please 
call Warren to order or use the link below to order online:

http://www.delorean.com/dmcstore/BuyNow.asp?PartID=2164&Qty=1

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

>I also got some of lee's keys when I got my DMC.  Actually had them before
>it was running.  They're beautiful..I definately recommend them to anyone
>who has a chance to get them.
>
>Scott



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: anyone intrested in a deloeran?

Im thinking of moving from a daily driver to a garage
queen and i have no room for 2 cars (i wish) So im
thinking of parting with my 82, if anyone is intrested
in a VERY well maintained delorean send me a email and
we can discuss. Thanks!!

-Cliff Andrews
10854

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:50:35 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: rebrushing a DeLorean

In a message dated 8/15/00 3:47:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com writes:

<< There was a flap brush laying next to the panel that 
 looked like it hooked onto a drill.   >>

The Delorean One website used to have a picture of a flap brush... little 
squares of sandpaper on a wheel, kind of like a grinder.  They weren't saying 
they sold the wheels, just illustrating ss refinishing.  So I assume that's 
how D1 does. it, at least.

-Wayne
"The DeLorean Nosebra Guy"
vin 11174



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:17:23 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Late Model Exhaust Pipes and Concours

Tom (and others) -

It's not a matter of DMC Houston not believing you about the exhaust 
pipes, it's a matter of what the factory documentation says was 
installed on cars with your VIN. Concours is NOT only about 
originality. If that was the case, there quite a few 'original' cars 
in existence in far worse shape than yours that would be excellent 
concours candidates.

In a previous life I had a great deal of experience with NCRS - the 
National Corvette Restorers Society. Judging an NCRS Corvette is 
incredibly more intense that judging Millennium, the De Lorean Motor 
Company Concours. Judges literally are required to time how long seat 
belt buzzers run, and measure the distance the cigarette lighter is 
ejected. Checking date codes on parts is commonplace as well. Why is 
this? Because people will spend literally hundreds of thousands of 
dollars preparing their cars for Bloomington, the greatest of all 
Corvette shows. When that much money is spent, it becomes incredibly 
more difficult to judge, hairs become thinner and thinner to split.

As I've said before, because of the brief and turbulent history of 
the original De Lorean Motor Company, documentation was certainly not 
their primary concern. Keeping the doors open and building cars was 
the priority. The Concours Judging Manual (which all pre-registered 
competitors receive prior to the event, and is freely downloadable 
from the De Lorean Motor Company web site) was written based upon 
literally thousands of pages of documentation from the original De 
Lorean Motor Company we acquired with the purchase of the parts from 
KAPAC. Significant other documentation was provided by Lief Montin, 
the National Parts Manager for the original De Lorean Motor Company. 
All the documentation used in the creation of the manual is available 
for inspection at any event. When we open our new facility later this 
year, ALL the documentation will be available for viewing at any time 
by appointment.

We have the original ECA (Engineering Change Authority) files on the 
DeLorean. Supposedly, any time a change was made in the production of 
the DeLorean, one of these was completed and routed through the 
engineering department. All of them have an area where the beginning 
VIN is to be noted - many times this is blank. All of them have an 
area where the 'reason' for the change is to be noted (reason for the 
change is hood styles? 'Management Decision'.) There are over 4000 of 
these that we know of. In some instances, these forms are noted as 
retroactive, meaning the change occurred before the ECA was formally 
approved.

We also have the original "QA Inspection" files for parts that came 
in from vendors (someone in the Belfast factory spot-checked incoming 
parts, like fascias, louvres, nuts, bolts, seats, etc). Many of these 
are marked as "Supplied part does not match specification, accepted 
on authority of Engineering Department". That means that the part was 
not exactly right, but they used it anyway.

What this all means is that the vast majority of DeLoreans are 
unique. How and where do you draw the line? According to the 
documentation, exhaust tips were installed on all cars after VIN 
10000. This same memo lists the intro points for ASI radios, etc. The 
memo ends with the sentence "some items on the list above may have 
been introduced earlier".

In the very last days of the original De Lorean Motor Company, when 
your car was built, who's to say they didn't run across a pallet full 
of the earlier style exhaust systems and install them on cars? I 
can't say that they didn't, all I can say is the documentation says 
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE. Does that make your car any less valuable? Only 
to a dyed in the wool concours freak. Would you be better off welding 
on a set of flared tips to your exhaust? If I REALLY wanted to win in 
concours, and two points stood between me and trophy, you can bet 
your behind I would.

I welcome anyone to continue this discussion with me via private 
email if desired.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

>Not all 1983's came with small exhaust pipe tips. I purchased #17168 new with
>17 miles from a New Jersey dealer who had over 20 1983's in stock. As I
>remember most were 17000vins. The cars with black interiors had the large
>tail pipes and the cars with grey interiors had small pipes. I wanted the
>grey interior and could only get it with the small pipes.
>At the Cleveland Show my car lost 2 points in the concours because of the
>small pipes.  Would any owners of 1983cars with 17000 vins e-mail me with
>their vin #,interior color and tail pipe size. DMC Houston does not believe
>my exhaust is original. If there are other strange things about label decals
>please let me also know.
>My interior looks the same as #20064. I wish my wife would let me buy it.
>
>Thanks,
>Tom Griepenburg
>dmc17168_at_dml_aol.com



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:07:06 -0700
From: comet6974_at_dml_juno.com
Subject: Re: Interesting Ebay Item.

Most Likely they are the panels off of one of the "Black Cars," the ones
that the factory put fiberglass panels on because there were no SS panels
available to put on the cars, SS panels were also un necessary for the
testing purposes that the cars were built for. There is a fiberglass
underbody but there is nothing like that directly on the panels. The
panels are pure SS.

Trevor Johnson

#6974 and 4??? 
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:18:24 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: cooling fan question

Marc, 
Your right. When you turn on the air condition the fans come on and cycle as 
the pressure sensors dictate. 
    The Fan Zilla as I under stand it staggers this operation so the main 
relay that supplies most of the power to the car doesn't get a 60-80 amp all 
at one time. It works great and does what it supposed to do. 
    The Fan Fix also plugs into the relay sockets and allows the car to 
operate as normal, but it doesn't take the power from the main relay. It 
releives the main relay of this duty and diverts it to the battery. By doing 
this, it also solves some of the low voltage problems of the car, such as 
dyeing at a stop light when at an idle, lights dimming so on. Also by 
diverting the drain the coil also doesn't see a major voltage drop for a loss 
of power, even while driving. Thusn the bucking as you say it is down to a 
hop if that.
John
11004 



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:22:57 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: cooling fan question

J.B., 
The fans are supposed to alternate as the compressor cycles. That's normal. 
If a circut breaker is getting old and weaking, then you may see a more rapid 
cycling. Then it would be time to replace it the circut breaker. 
John 
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:10:01 EDT
From: madmap70_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Lambda Unit

The Lambda unit on my D is dead.  I am guessing that this could be the cause 
of a host of problems with my car -- lack of power, frequency valve not 
buzzing and flunking Arizona's emission test.  Would this unit be responsible 
for all of the items I have just listed and would the dead lambda unit cause 
any other problems I should be aware of ?  Since my car has always driven 
like this since I have owned it, my guess is that it will be a big change 
once I get this thing fixed.  Also, is this something that can be repaired or 
just replaced as I believe it is a few hundred bucks for a new one.  Thanks 
for the help.

Mark



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:34:04 -0700
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>
Subject: RE: replacement panels

Josh said "I'm thinking it might be worth checking out what other local
DeLorean dealerships did with their replacement panels when the company
went under."  I don't about the rest of them, but 29 dealerships sold their
panels to me.....

-- 
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
McCleary, WA




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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:48:08 -0500
From: "TMasterLC_at_dml_msn.com" <tmasterlc_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: All Cleveland videos shipped...

Dear List:

Thanks for the positive responses to the Cleveland 2000 video.

All copies were mailed yesterday (8-15-00) and the postal service says to expect delivery within 3-7 days depending on the destinations.

Enjoy! : )

Ron & Cheryl Wester
P.O. Box 1177
St. Peters, MO  63376-0020
VIN#: 6322
MO LIC#: BK2-FTR


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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:23:33 -0400
From: drinkware <drinkware_at_dml_lweb.net>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 172

Re; NOS master brake cylinder

I'm no mechanic however, I bought a master cylinder from Auto Zone on the
advice of this column. The part number may be supplied by someone else on
this list who is more file oriented. The part fit perfectly and looked
identical to the one removed. A minor problem was removing the screws
holding the translucent resevoir which did not come with the new unit. The
old one had to be taken back as a trade- in. I think it was a Saab part.
Marvin
#4239
"MR AD"

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Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:43 PM
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 172


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> There are 25 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. Re: celebrity DeLorean owners
>            From: ciasleeper2_at_dml_aol.com
>       2. Re: lambda light on dash
>            From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>
>       3. Re: lambda light on dash
>            From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
>       4. Hot Start
>            From: "John Hervey" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>
>       5. Re: VIN SCEDT26TODD020064/Exhaust Pipes
>            From: dmc17168_at_dml_aol.com
>       6. cooling fan question
>            From: gullwing99_at_dml_aol.com
>       7. Re:Frame Restoration (color matching the frame)
>            From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
>       8. Customizing the DeLorean
>            From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude_at_dml_juno.com>
>       9. Slightly Damaged RFP For Sale
>            From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude_at_dml_juno.com>
>      10. Re: Re: Changing front and rear springs
>            From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
>      11. Re: Re: Summer Heat, now hard starting Q
>            From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
>      12. RE: lambda light on dash
>            From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
>      13. Re: VIN SCEDT26TODD020064
>            From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
>      14. Throttle cable
>            From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
>      15. Re: cooling fan question
>            From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
>      16. Re: Customizing the DeLorean
>            From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
>      17. Re: Customizing the DeLorean
>            From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
>      18. Re: celebrity DeLorean owners-more Leave it to Beaver
>            From: johnmidd1_at_dml_aol.com
>      19. Sob Story
>            From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman_at_dml_indexdesign.com>
>      20. straighten fascia & repainting
>            From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
>      21. Re: Changing front and rear springs
>            From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
>      22. Canadian DeLoreans
>            From: "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net>
>      23. Questions on NOS Master Brake cyl
>            From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
>      24. Re: Hot Start
>            From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
>      25. Re: Throttle cable
>            From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:26:48 EDT
>    From: ciasleeper2_at_dml_aol.com
> Subject: Re: celebrity DeLorean owners
>
> Another interesting tie in to "Leave it to Beaver" is that Beaver's older
> brother Wally's Highschool, (in reality a set on the Universal lot) was
> retrofitted 20 years later into what we now know as the infamous Clock
Tower
> from "Back To The Future"
>
> Just thought it was interesting....
>
> Justin
> VIN 5172
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:48:58 -0400
>    From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>
> Subject: Re: lambda light on dash
>
>
>
> > The lambda light on our dash is lit, what does this mean<
>
> It means that the lambda sensor needs to be reset.  They come on after a
> certain count.  If you will look at your speedo drive cable running down
> behind the brake pedal, you will see the lambda sensor box connected to
it.
> As far as the proper procedure to reset it, I'm really not sure.  I just
> unhooked my light, I'm way too lazy.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:23:23 -0600
>    From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
> Subject: Re: lambda light on dash
>
> Mike hit the lambda question right on the head, but may have been off
> the mark on the "electronic box". On cars with the early VINs, the
> inertia switch was mounted there. People were kicking them and that's
> why it was moved to the wall on the drivers footwell.
>
> A description of the box would be helpful in accurately identifying it for
you.
>
> James Espey
> DeLorean Motor Company
> Houston, Texas
>
> 281/568-9573
> 800/USA-DMC1
> http://www.delorean.com
>
> >The lambda light on our dash is lit, what does this mean? We tried
> >looking in the owners manual and it was really not very clear. Does
> >it mean the car needs to be serviced? Also, my husband was working on
> >our '81 delorean and noticed an electronic box below the clutch
> >pedal ...what is it? We are new delorean owners and this is probably
> >going to be one of many questions that we will have about our lovely
> >car!
> >
> >thanks for your input!
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:55:56 -0000
>    From: "John Hervey" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>
> Subject: Hot Start
>
> Hey: Group, If anyone needs a hot start relay for this cool Texas
> Climate of 100 to 107 to help overcome the startup up problem, I have
> them. You know me. Dherv10_at_dml_aol.com. New listing on the DML Parts list.
> John
> 11004
> 6935
> 6568
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:01:51 EDT
>    From: dmc17168_at_dml_aol.com
> Subject: Re: VIN SCEDT26TODD020064/Exhaust Pipes
>
> Not all 1983's came with small exhaust pipe tips. I purchased #17168 new
with
> 17 miles from a New Jersey dealer who had over 20 1983's in stock. As I
> remember most were 17000vins. The cars with black interiors had the large
> tail pipes and the cars with grey interiors had small pipes. I wanted the
> grey interior and could only get it with the small pipes.
> At the Cleveland Show my car lost 2 points in the concours because of the
> small pipes.  Would any owners of 1983cars with 17000 vins e-mail me with
> their vin #,interior color and tail pipe size. DMC Houston does not
believe
> my exhaust is original. If there are other strange things about label
decals
> please let me also know.
> My interior looks the same as #20064. I wish my wife would let me buy it.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Griepenburg
> dmc17168_at_dml_aol.com
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:36:50 EDT
>    From: gullwing99_at_dml_aol.com
> Subject: cooling fan question
>
>     Hello all,
> My wife and I took the D out for a nice Sunday drive this past weekend.
 we
> don't do this much do to a new baby),,,,,The D did great as it always
> has,,,,but I have a question about the fans,,,,,first though,,,the car
never
> ever over heats,,it runs cool no matter what the temp,,,,,,when you have
the
> AC on,,,are they suppose to stay on or do they come on and off,,,,,mine
are
> going on and off,,,if they are suppose to stay on while the AC is on what
is
> the problem,,,,,,if they are not suppose to,,,,,,thanks anyway
>
>            J.B.Vincent
>            vin: 16709
>            lic:  DMC 12
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 7
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:08:44 -0000
>    From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
> Subject: Re:Frame Restoration (color matching the frame)
>
> Actually since the epoxy paint was applied on thick, you can scrape
> off the top layer and see the original color under it. Only the top
> layer of the Epoxy paint will be oxidized.
>
> [Excessively Long Quotation removed by Moderator]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:41:33 -0500
>    From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude_at_dml_juno.com>
> Subject: Customizing the DeLorean
>
> Hey Guys,
>   After looking at the Painted DeLorean Website and DMCNews Owner Pics,
> I have noticed a few customized D's, some that have undergone exrteme
> cosmetic alterations.  My questions too those who have done this sort of
> project is this:  Where did you find the stuff at?  I would like to add
> ground effects
> and possibly skirts to my car, when I get it (soon!), and blackout kits,
> especially
> the rear taillight blackouts-too cool!  I'm not wanting too turn it into
> another car,
> just slightly improve on the looks, not that I'm complaining though!
>
>   Also, WHO owns the RED D that has re-engineered the interior and
> replaced it with red cloth (?) and swapped the steering wheel with a
> plane-cockpit type of steering wheel (half-wheel type).  It is SO
> awesome!
>
> Basically, if you're a customizer, please e-mail me privately.  I would
> love to
> talk to you and discuss the processes and expenses required to do such
> feats.
>
> Thank You All,
> Robert G.
> ________________________________________________________________
> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
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> Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:31:35 -0500
>    From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude_at_dml_juno.com>
> Subject: Slightly Damaged RFP For Sale
>
> Hi Group,
> I paid about $1700 for a right front panel as a peice of memorabilia,
> the person who previously owned it had no use of it, for it had set in
> the garage for about 10 years before I got it.  I cleaned it up, polished
> it, meade it shine like new, as put it where I could see it everyday.  You
> could call it my little DeLorean "shrine".....anyway, my Mom wants me to
get
> rid of it because it takes up too much room inside the house so, I am
offering it
> to you, my fellow DMLers.  The only thing wrong with it is that the front
part
> where the fascia meets the panel and bolts on has been bent, the owner
said it
> happened back in '86 when an old woman in a Caddy changed lanes and swiped
the
> front. Nothing too serious..someone who knew how to heat stainless
properly or
> knows someone who does could probably mold this back into shape, and then
> re-install the black strip (it's been removed somewhere down the years).
>
> So, if anyone is interested in having a spare that you can play with (and
possibly
> use if you needed to), please e-mail me privately.  All offers will be
considered.
> Buyer to pay S&H.
>
> Thaks in Advance,
> Robert G.
> PS-What I recieve will go into my DeLorean funds! : )
> ________________________________________________________________
> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
> Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
> Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 10
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:35:56 -0400
>    From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
> Subject: Re: Re: Changing front and rear springs
>
>     Steve,
>
>     I think it would be advisable to include the following warning when
addressing spring replacement.
>
>     DANGER! When removing or replacing coil springs, improper use of coil
spring compressors can cause the spring to be propelled out of its mounting
position with LETHAL FORCE. (Auto Service and Repair publishers
Goodheart-Willcox Co.)
>
>     "We're here to help you"
>
>     DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
>     Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Steve Rubano
>       To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>       Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:20 PM
>       Subject: [DML] Re: Changing front and rear springs
>
>
>       Changing the springs is not to difficult at all. Yes you do need a
>       special tool, a set of strut spring compressors (forgot the actual
>       name). You have to compress the springs with this tool first before
>       even atempting to remove them. There are two of them, one for each
>       side of the spring to compress it evenly. Additionally you will need
>       it also to install the new springs. I have to warn you that since
the
>       front springs were fitted with larger springs to raise the Delorean,
>       it is a little tricky getting them out (also in) so be careful! The
>       tool isn't too expensive, between $20-$40. It's not the greatest pic
>       but below is a "drawing" of what one of them looks like, tool laying
>       down. It has a set of upper and lower hooks that ride on a threaded
>       shaft. Hope this helps.
>
>         tool--> (___)__
>
>       Steve
>       www.dmcman.homestead.com
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:49:27 -0400
>    From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
> Subject: Re: Re: Summer Heat, now hard starting Q
>
> John,
>
> You may have the only Hot Start relays in existence. I'm not sure what the
design engineers had in mind when they wired in the hot start relay because
no such relay exists. The socket has three connections, three less than
required to allow such a circuit to function. If you carefully study the
schematic wiring diagram you will see what I mean.
>
> "We're here to help you"
>
> DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
> Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: John Hervey
>   To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:30 PM
>   Subject: [DML] Re: Summer Heat, now hard starting Q
>
>
>   Chris, Robert, Walter, Open the panel behind the passenger where the
>   relays are, look up above where the black blank spot is and you might
>   see a relay socket laying up there with no relay in it. The wire
>   color should be black, blue/black and white/red. This is where the
>   hot start relay goes. It's all three of my cars. 6935,6568 and 11004
>   If you need relays, I have them. Call if I can help.
>   John
>   972-564-9321
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 12
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:15:25 -0500
>    From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: lambda light on dash
>
> There are several "boxes" under the dash.  One is the lamda counter that
> needs to be reset to turn off that dash light.  It has a speedometer cable
> going in the bottom and another out the top.
>
> If I recall correctly, the inertia switch was originally mounted on the
> forward wall of the footwell, and relocated by a Service Bulletin so that
it
> would not get so easily kicked.  If still on the forward wall, it would
> cause me to question if the car had received any of the safety recalls.
>
>
> Gus Schlachter
> Austin, TX
> VIN# 4695
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Substelny [mailto:msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:07 PM
> > To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [DML] lambda light on dash
> >
> >
> > brownalizat_at_dml_exchange.uams.edu wrote:
> >
> > > The lambda light on our dash is lit, what does this mean?
> >
> > The lambda light comes on every 30,000 miles to incite you to get the
> > lambda circuit serviced.  You should replace the oxygen sensor, which is
> > not expensive.  The easiest solution is to contact one of the DeLorean
> > parts suppliers.  You can find a list of suppliers on the DMC News
> > website:
> > http://www.dmcnews.com/links.html
> >
> > and on the DOA website:
> > http://www.delorean-owners.org/index2.html
> >
> > > Also, my husband was working on our '81 delorean and noticed an
> > > electronic box below the clutch pedal ...what is it?
> >
> > BELOW the clutch pedal, you say?
> >
> > Sounds like an aftermarket addition, maybe a cruise control.  It might
> > also be the windshield wiper control, inertia switch, or some other
> > module that fell out of its place under the dashboard.
> >
> > I suggest you get your hands on the factory parts manual, which is
> > available as a free download from the DMC News page:
> >
> > http://www.dmcnews.com/files.html
> >
> > The manual has good pictures that can help you identify parts like this.
> > It also gives reference numbers that are very handy for communicating
> > with DeLorean parts vendors.
> >
> > - Mike Substelny
> > VIN 01280, 7 years
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 13
>    Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:11:22 -0600
>    From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
> Subject: Re: VIN SCEDT26TODD020064
>
> It's generally thought that the Canadian market DeLoreans are the
> 17000 series VINs. They are generally identified by the presence of a
> metric dominant instrument cluster - is anyone aware of any other
> significant differences?
>
> James
>
> >Hi everybody, I check ebay, and yahoo alot, and I found a delorean in
Miami,
> >and the VIN was SCEDT26TODD020064 and I red about the Canidan deloreans
that
> >had VIN 20000, or 200000 (I don't remember which one it was). Is this a
> >Cadidan car? Here is the url if you want some eye candy!
> >http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/29733863
> >John Giedosh a.k.a. Fronzel Neekburm
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 14
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:55:29 PDT
>    From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
> Subject: Throttle cable
>
> Hey Group:
>
> Well, last night was it, the first time my D has broken down and left me
> sitting.  I was driving and "snap!" the throttle cable broke.  (right
where
> the pedal mechanism hooks to the cable)  After having someone meet me with
> some tools, I ended up wiring the throttle to the engine caompartment so
> that it was at a constant 2500 RPM's.  Then, I drove the 45 minute ride
home
> like that.  Questions: how tough is it to change the throttle cable?  Do I
> have to replace the whole thing or just the cable in the sleeve?  How much
> does a new one cost?  That was not fun.  EVERYONE is looking at you in
that
> car, as you're broke down fooling with it.
>
> Thanks
> Brian #16584
> ________________________________________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 15
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:10:16 -0400
>    From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
> Subject: Re: cooling fan question
>
> I believe the normal fan operation with the AC on is that the fans go on
> and off as the compressor cycles.
>
> This is why some owners complain that the car bucks when the AC cycles.
> The power spike of the compressor clutch, and both fans starting up is
> quite a jolt to the marginal electrical system in the DMC.  The FanZilla
> sold by PJGrady will fix the problem by sequentially starting all 3
> items instead of the factory simultaneous method.
>
>
> gullwing99_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > AC on,,,are they suppose to stay on or do they come on and off,,,,,mine
are
> > going on and off,,,if they are suppose to stay on while the AC is on
what is
> > the problem,,,,,,if they are not suppose to,,,,,,thanks anyway
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 16
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:12:57 -0400
>    From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
> Subject: Re: Customizing the DeLorean
>
> Robert Greenhaw wrote:
>
> > [SNIP]
> > Also, WHO owns the RED D that has re-engineered the interior and
> > replaced it with red cloth (?) and swapped the steering wheel with a
> > plane-cockpit type of steering wheel (half-wheel type).  It is SO
> > awesome!
>
> The radically customized DeLorean has only made two public appearances: at
> Ken Koncelik's shows in Cincinnati and Cleveland.  It belongs to Curtiss
> Bryant in Ohio.  He is not on the Internet, and even Ken has trouble
> reaching Curtiss.
>
> The other red car with the ground effects is perhaps the most award-laden
> DeLorean in the world: Dave Colley's custom DeLorean.  Unfortunately he is
> also not on the Internet.  Dave's beautiful car is for sale, if you are
> interested.
>
> - Mike Substelny
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 17
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:19:23 -0400
>    From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
> Subject: Re: Customizing the DeLorean
>
> This car is owned by Curtis Bryant.  VIN 10159 (I think).
>
> The steering wheel is a stock DeLorean wheel that has been cut.  The
> center area (where the horn would be on a regular car) has been covered
> with cloth, and a calculator installed.  The top part of the wheel that
> was cut has what looks like after market 5 speed shifter handles on
> top.  He has the same handle on his shifter.
>
> I do not think Curtis is on the internet yet, but Ken has been able to
> get him to both of his DeLorean Car Shows.  I hope to see Curtis again
> in Memphis, he is a friendly guy who definitely adds excitement to the
> marquee even if his car is not quite your style.
>
> I have a few pictures of his car from 1998 at
> http://remus.rutgers.edu/~mxl/dmc/cinn/cin.html
>
>
> Robert Greenhaw wrote:
> <SNIP>
> >   Also, WHO owns the RED D that has re-engineered the interior and
> > replaced it with red cloth (?) and swapped the steering wheel with a
> > plane-cockpit type of steering wheel (half-wheel type).  It is SO
> > awesome!
> <SNIP>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 18
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:10:25 EDT
>    From: johnmidd1_at_dml_aol.com
> Subject: Re: celebrity DeLorean owners-more Leave it to Beaver
>
> Also, on the New Leave it to Beaver show of the 1980s, Beavers friend
Gilbert
> drove a DeLorean!!
>
> MODERATOR NOTE: This has been amusing, but unless someone has information
that ties it all together the thread ends with this message.
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 19
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:26:57 -0400
>    From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman_at_dml_indexdesign.com>
> Subject: Sob Story
>
> Greetings List,
>     I was at my friendly neighborhood junk yard yesterday looking for a
> few things for my brother's Honda.  I drove the DeLorean down so that
> she could get her exercise for the week and, as usual, she attracted
> quite a bit of attention...In fact the owner of the yard came out and
> talked with me about them for awhile.  He's a nice and very honest
> gentleman and I have no reason not to believe that the following story,
> which he told me, is true.
>     It seems that when the DeLorean was still in production there was a
> Chevrolet dealership in Cincinnati that would do a lot of stainless work
> on the cars.  All of their damaged panels were sent to this junk yard
> when it was determined that they could not be repaired.  Curiously
> enough, the yard owner held on to those panels and stored them in a huge
> semi-truck trailer.  When DMC went under the Chevy dealership decided to
> get out of the DeLorean business ASAP.  They sold their remaining supply
> of replacement panels, including brand new left front fenders and lined
> hoods (with and without gas flaps!) to this yard too.  The yard owner
> stored the good panels in with the others in the hopes that someday a
> DeLorean owner would come along looking for something.  All good news so
> far!
>     Here's the sad part:  four or five years ago the yard owner had a
> wrecking crew come in to do a routine clean up job and they accidently
> crushed the trailer with the DeLorean parts STILL INSIDE!
>     He didn't think too much about it at the time because apparently no
> one had ever come to him looking for panels and basically they were just
> taking up space.  When I told him how much left front fenders were going
> for today he just about fainted.
>     I'm thinking it might be worth checking out what other local
> DeLorean dealerships did with their replacement panels when the company
> went under.  I'll let you know if I find any stories with happier
> endings!
>     Still sobbing for now,
>     Josh
>     http://www.delorean-12.com
>     VIN 5102
>     VIN 15964
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 20
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:48:52 EDT
>    From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
> Subject: straighten fascia & repainting
>
> Hello List,
>     I am going to have my front and rear fascias painted soon.  The front
one
> has decent sized eyebrows.  I remember hearing that the fascias could be
> straightend out some how.  Will the local body shop know how?  how is this
> done exactly?  do they put a bar behind it?  just curious.
>     I am going to buy the paint at Napa because I can get it at cost
there.
> does anyone have the paint codes for the fascias?
>
> Thank you
> dave
> #2496-stainless after 19 years
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 21
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:45:14 -0000
>    From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
> Subject: Re: Changing front and rear springs
>
> Joe,
>
> You are absolutley right. Thanks for the inclusion. :)
>
> On that note, you have to be especially careful with the front
> springs. Like I said in my earlier post, they crammed larger springs
> in place to raise the front bumper height. These are the springs that
> have to be compressed to the point where the spring may start
> to "buckle" under the stress and will/could pop off the tools and
> cause some serious injury. Again...Be VERY carefull when changing
> them. It's advisable to let a professional do it that way you won't
> get hurt and you won't damage your D in the process.
>
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> >     Steve,
> >
> >     I think it would be advisable to include the following warning
> when addressing spring replacement.
> >
> >     DANGER! When removing or replacing coil springs, improper use
> of coil spring compressors can cause the spring to be propelled out
> of its mounting position with LETHAL FORCE. (Auto Service and Repair
> publishers Goodheart-Willcox Co.)
> >
> >     "We're here to help you"
> >
> >     DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_a...>
> >     Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 22
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:46:38 +0200 (DST)
>    From: "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net>
> Subject: Canadian DeLoreans
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm the proud owner of #17115. It was transported from Canada to the
> Netherlands aprox. 3.5 years ago. It has the double lean exhaust pipes,
> straight hood (no flap) and metric gauges. Other than that I don't know
> what to look for, I haven't been able to compare it to another DeLorean
> yet.
>
> Sacha
>
>
>
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:11:22 -0600, James Espey wrote:
>
> > It's generally thought that the Canadian market DeLoreans are the
> > 17000 series VINs. They are generally identified by the presence of a
> > metric dominant instrument cluster - is anyone aware of any other
> > significant differences?
> >
> > James
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 23
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:59:48 -0000
>    From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
> Subject: Questions on NOS Master Brake cyl
>
> I have a few questions about the NOS Master Brake Cylinders. Is it
> advisable to buy them? I mean they have been sitting around for about
> 20 years, wouldn't the seals have dried out? The bore be pitted by
> mositure? I don't know how they were pakaged, if they had any type of
> protective lubricant applied to them, etc. Would it be better to buy
> the aftermarket type from one of the Delorean Dealers? I heard that
> the Newer type ones do not come with the switch, how true is this?
> Also does anyone know the make and the part number of the aftermarket
> type Master Brake cyinders that will work in the Delorean without
> having to change the calipers to match it?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 24
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:37:07 -0400
>    From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
> Subject: Re: Hot Start
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> John,
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> Not to put a damper on your offer of Hot Start Relays but as I noted in an
earlier post there is no Hot Start Relay. I would be very interested in a
description of this relay and how it functions.
>
> "We're here to help you"
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> DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
> Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: John Hervey
>   To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 7:55 PM
>   Subject: [DML] Hot Start
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>   Hey: Group, If anyone needs a hot start relay for this cool Texas
>   Climate of 100 to 107 to help overcome the startup up problem, I have
>   them. You know me. Dherv10_at_dml_aol.com. New listing on the DML Parts list.
>   John
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> Message: 25
>    Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:36 -0400
>    From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
> Subject: Re: Throttle cable
>
> Brian,
>
> Depending on how and where the cable broke will determine the repair
procedure. If the cable broke outside of the outer cable, replacement will
be relatively easy. If the cable broke inside the outer cable it would be
best to replace the entire unit; i.e.: Inner and outer. This will involve
removal of the center console.
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> The cables are available in 130" and 140". Inner core replacements are
priced at $19.45. If the outer and inner sections need to be replaced they
are priced at $83.50, ask for part number 100485.
>
> "We're here to help you"
>
> DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
> Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lynn Metz
>   To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:55 AM
>   Subject: [DML] Throttle cable
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>   Hey Group:
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>   Well, last night was it, the first time my D has broken down and left me
>   sitting.  I was driving and "snap!" the throttle cable broke.  (right
where
>   the pedal mechanism hooks to the cable)  After having someone meet me
with
>   some tools, I ended up wiring the throttle to the engine caompartment so
>   that it was at a constant 2500 RPM's.  Then, I drove the 45 minute ride
home
>   like that.  Questions: how tough is it to change the throttle cable?  Do
I
>   have to replace the whole thing or just the cable in the sleeve?  How
much
>   does a new one cost?  That was not fun.  EVERYONE is looking at you in
that
>   car, as you're broke down fooling with it.
>
>   Thanks
>   Brian #16584
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:18:56 -0200
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>
Subject: Charlotte NC car show

Hi everyone. I just wanted to get the word out that Charlotte is having a great car show. It is held at Lowes Motor Speedway on September 14-17. This show is held twice a year (in the spring and in the fall). I saw my first DeLorean (in person) there this spring. I think it would be great if several DeLoreans could come this fall. This is a really great show. The car show is held all down pit row, and all the cars for sale line the entire length of the track. There is usually a Kruse auction too. In the center of the track is more cars and vendors of all sorts. This is THE biggest car show I have ever been to, so it is really worth bringing your car. Since I am a freshman at UNC Charlotte (which is 2 miles from the speedway), I intend on being there daily. If anyone is interested, you can let me know <louiegolden_at_dml_lycos.com> , or you can go to Hemmings Motor News website for exact details. Hope to see you there!-

Louie Golden
#wannabe

PS- Me and one of my friends have spotted a DeLorean in my hometown of Sanford, NC. If this is you, I would really like to talk with you. -Thanks!!


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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:21:28 CDT
From: "Jason Johnston" <kenworth_77_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Importing a Delorean to the USA (Curious about Customs)


Just a thought, but how do you get Customs papers from a company that 
"theoretically" doesn't exist anymore. ANd also wouldn't another DeLorean in 
the US already provide proof of the emissions and other requirements since 
DMC emissions for the PRV-6 were already met for BOTH cars (Canadian and US) 
because the have the same engine.
Just wondering??

JAson Johnston,
DMC Enthusiast and Researcher,
Kemco Industries, Inc.
Fort Worth, Texas
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:36:39 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Late Model Exhaust Pipes and Concours

James,

From myself and the entire DeLorean community, thanks for taking the time to explain, in detail, the unending stream of questions pertaining to this subject. 

"We're here to help you"

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
  
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:53:19 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Straight skinny on Hot Start Relay

To all regarding the 'hot start relay' -

As Joe said, there is no such thing. It was never used by the
original De Lorean Motor Company. If someone thinks they need it,
they have another problem that needs proper diagnosing. It is the
opinion of Stephen Wynne that the use of a hot start relay poses a
fire risk, too.

Bottom line - trust the professionals who make their living working
on DeLoreans in this instance. If you think you need a hot start
relay, call your DeLorean service center of choice and get a proper
diagnosis - don't monkey with the fuel OR electrical systems of your
car.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com



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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:23:44 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean with twin turbo

I was wondering who owned VIN 502, the only DeLorean with the experimental 
Twin Turbo? Is it DeLorean One? I think I read that DeLorean One had one of 
the Twin Turbo engines for display, and not for putting in a DeLorean. 

Wouldn't that be cool to see the Twin Turbo engine, or even VIN 502 at the 
next DeLorean Car Show? (Ken?)

John Feldman
VIN 4275



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