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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Tachometer Needle
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

2. Re: Tachometer Needle
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

3. Re: Door alignment
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

4. Re: who has a rear window? and glass
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

5. DMC for sale
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net>

6. Re: rear speaker removal
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

7. Re: coolant lines
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

8. Re: temp. guage
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

9. Re: Tachometer Needle
From: Ann & Ed Thompson <rapparivarat_at_dml_erols.com>

10. Re: battery cutoff switches
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

11. Fuel Injectors
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: coolant lines
From: scottmueller_at_dml_zebra.net

13. Oil pressure guage
From: "James La Londe" <krfds_at_dml_yahoo.com>

14. Re: battery cutoff switches
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

15. One more to go
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

16. DeLorean sign.....
From: bigbenb84_at_dml_aol.com

17. ExpressAutoParts.com
From: burkephoto_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:06:03 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Tachometer Needle

You have a defective movement in your tach, this is not serviceable.


DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Tachometer Needle


> I know they rest a little high.  But I have seen many DeLoreans with them
> stuck to high.  myne for example is stuck way up at 5500RPM and it will
not
> move.  Its been like that since I've owned it.  Is there anyway to fix the
> tachs?  I dont want to buy a new one right now.  My car needs other things
> right now such as fenders and windows first:(
>
> please let me know.
>
> Thanks
> dave
> #2496




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:51:56 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Tachometer Needle

If your tach spins at engine shut off you have an open or bad ground
somewhere in the electrical system.

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse D. Sightler <jsight_at_dml_pair.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Tachometer Needle


> This is certainly not the case for my car.  Every time I turn the car off,
the
> needle moves at least 180 degrees and lands in a completely random
position!
>
> ---
> Jess




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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:19:57 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Door alignment

The DeLorean door alignment procedure is extremely critical and labor
intensive even when performed by factory trained technicians. Most latching
problems can be corrected by adjusting the latch pins. The door hinges
should never be adjusted unless you are absolutely sure that the door is out
of alignment.

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 11:41 AM
Subject: [DML] Door alignment


> Hello,
>     I finally got my door handles adjusted but now I need to align the
doors
> so they hit the striker pins acurately.  They close and shut now but
> sometimes the front latch catches because the striker pink isnt long enoug
> and its gets caught up on the latch.  I am reading the tech manual and it
> talks about adding and removing shims.
>
>     The latch seems to be coming down in the right spot but it hits the
end
> of the pin.  I think If I moved the rear of the door up it may fix this.
The
> bolts are in the lowest position and I think they should be up somewhat.
> does anyone know how far?  the ss panel is so close to the roof I can not
put
> the T-panel back on until I get this fixed.
>
> The passenger side door seems to be open a few inches high than the
drivers
> side. I layed a 2x4 across the doors and it is very noticeable.  I think
if I
> loosend the 4 bolts and slid the door up a little it may fix the problem.
Do
> you have to removed the gas strut when doing this?  I just tried it with
it
> on and I couldnt move it very far.  I wish I would ave done this before I
put
> the torsion bat back in but oh well.  If that doesnt work where can I buy
the
> hinge shims?  If any of you have done this procedure please let me know
how
> it went.
>
> Thank you
> David
> #2496




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:23:41 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: who has a rear window? and glass

If the windshield does not fit the DeLorean exactly like the factory glass
than it is not a crossover.

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:12 AM
Subject: [DML] who has a rear window? and glass


>
>     By the way.  I found a cross reference to DeLorean windshield but it
is
> almost $200 more than DMC Houston or other stores.  I have this remake
> windshield on my car but it is smashed.  It fits ok but overhangs and
covers
> the grill below the windshield.  looks like the DeLorean suppliers have
the
> better deal!  I just wanted to let everyone know.
> David,
> #2496




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 05:10:31 -0400
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net>
Subject: DMC for sale

Hi all,
It's a sad day for me... I can't believe I have to say this.... I have to sell my DeLorean
vin 6298, nov. 81,no gas flap and no lines on hood, automatic (brand new tranny), engine has about 20k miles on it but the car has 53k miles on the clock, gray interior, wide dealer stripe, cold A/C, everything works (even the speedo), new fuel system, new Yokohama tires and a lot of other parts. Runs great - you can drive it home. Too many new parts to list here. I put a LOT of work in this car.
It is located in Clearwater, FL. 
asking price: 17.500
For more info email me at tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net. I can take a lot of pictures of the car since I have a digital camera or if someone is seriously interested I can make a video tape of how the car looks, sounds and drives.


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:07:29 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: rear speaker removal

Don't bother! When the DeLorean was in the final stages of development
automobile sound quality was not a serious concern. The rear speakers in the
DeLorean are "free air" mounted; that means they are not coupled to an
enclosure or mounting board, an audio acoustic no-no, especially when it
comes to bass. High quality speakers mounted in the same mounting will only
deliver marginal bass.

It would be wiser to either mount a pair of speakers in the parcel shelf
rear wall or purchase hatchback or truck type box speakers and mount them on
the parcel shelf.

If your not real concerned about bass go ahead and replace the originals.

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel P. Saulnier <dps_at_dml_seacon.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 2:18 PM
Subject: [DML] rear speaker removal


> I'm trying to upgrade my speakers, but I can't gain access to the rear
ones.
> I've removed the seat belts, door gasket, the interior rear wall, and
> various screws.  At this point I can bend the plastic wall panel back
enough
> to get my hand back there, but not enough to see what I'm doing.  I
> understand that the plastic panel can be entirely removed using a heat
gun,
> but I'm reluctant to do this.  Has anyone successfully removed their rear
> speakers?
>
> Dan Saulnier.




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:47:47 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: coolant lines

We use the same hose for all of our replacements and have never had a
problem with fit. You either have the wrong hose, are installing it
incorrectly, or have a missing or damaged hose "Q" clip. This clip or clamp
is designed to keep the hose from coming in contact with the AC drive belt.

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Coplen <blarness_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] coolant lines


> When Erik G and I did his car last month we replaced all the hoses in just
> the engine compartment (and water pump too) and it took about two days.
It
> only took this long because we wanted to go very slowly and document
> everything as we went along.
>
> The hoses were pretty cheap.  He picked them up from Grady's.  I will say
> this though, the large replacement radiator hose on the left coming off
the
> water pump (going to the front of the car) that we received from Grady's
did
> NOT even come close to fitting without a severe "kink" in one of the
elbows.
> We thought we had it on wrong but after a couple of hours fighting with it
> it was clear, the replacement wasn't even shaped like the original.  No,
we
> didn't have them on the wrong side of the car.  We cut it, we twisted it,
we
> bent it.  It just did not fit.  It's on now but "rubs" the inside of the
> engine compartment at the back.  We couldn't clear the belts without doing
> this.
>
> Chris C
> GIGAWAT
> 3876
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Brian
> >16584




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:15:12 -0400
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: temp. guage

Sounds like you need to bleed some air out of your coolant system to me
bud....

---Dan



> Hi group. My question. While driving my temp guage needle will jump from
> about middle of first lines to just under 220 mark. It might stay there or
> just as suddenly drop back down . Any ideas as to the cause?  Thanks.  Bob
> #20003  ( When I say suddenly, I mean instantly)



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:52:02 -0400
From: Ann & Ed Thompson <rapparivarat_at_dml_erols.com>
Subject: Re: Tachometer Needle

> Tom Niemczewski wrote:
> 
> The tach always parks between 2 and 3. It's not the electronics but just the
> way the needle is balanced. It doesn't matter where the needle is when you
> turn the key off, it always parks there. 

I just tried mine.  The needle ALWAYS parks wherever it is when the ignition
is switched to OFF.  I tried it at several different RPM levels, high, low, in
between, and idle.  It consistently parked exactly where it was when I switched
off the ignition.  It always returns to zero when the the ignition is switched 
to ON.  It remains at zero if I turn the ignition ON, then OFF, without starting.
This is how it has worked for the last 18 years.  Seems correct to me.  If not,
it's been broken since new.

BTW, who cares as long as it works properly when the motor is running? 

Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982, and still for sale)


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:17:55 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: battery cutoff switches

This sounds remarkably like the ones available from Maplin (www.maplin.co.uk),
stock code: WD16S for UKP 8.49 (USD 13.50 excl P+P). Is this where you get them
from?

I expect them to be able to ship overseas.

Martin

Darryl Tinnerstet wrote:

> (If the moderators feel this is too commercial, feel free to not post.  I
> just figured this would be an item of particular interest.)
>
> I have a small quantity of neat battery cutoff switches available.  They
> come with two removeable keys, and can be easily mounted through the
> bulkhead above and inboard of the battery location.  They are made in
> England and rated at 300 amps.  I usually pay $29.95 for these, but due to a
> quantity purchase can sell them for $25 plus $3.20 postage.  If there is
> enough demand, I may be able to get more.  Please contact me directly if
> interested.
>
> --
> Darryl Tinnerstet



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:26:36 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Fuel Injectors

Hello,
    After talking to a few DeLorean owners and 1 mechanic I think I have 
found the problem with my rough idle and acceleration.  It seems to have a 
little trouble starting.  it will sputter and then stall.  Then the next time 
you turn the key it comes to life instantly.  It will not accelerate very 
well at all.  once you get to second geer it does better but still not 
anything like it should.  the engine has little tiny backfires when you give 
it gas.
    I think I may have a clogged injector.  My car sat for about 11-12 
months.  Before starting it I drained the gas and did a quick fuel system 
flush and I really dont even think it needed it.  the gas was fine.  I am 
starting to think something may have got to one of the injectors somehow.  
does this sound like it could be and injector? I tested the cold start valve 
and it is working.
    when it starts it spits out a little mist of gas or water from the 
tailpipe.  I dont think it is from water evaporation because it does it on 
hot days too.  I think I will go ahead and replace the injector after I find 
out which one it is, or should I replace them all?.  while I am doing this I 
will replace the water hoses and dist cover etc.  please let me know what you 
all think.  my car has 28k miles if u wanted to know.
Thank you
David
#2496


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:01:04 US/Central
From: scottmueller_at_dml_zebra.net
Subject: Re: coolant lines

Joe & Chris
I used the same set and I also had a problem making that long hose fit.  Yes I had the Q
bracket installed.  My new hose rubbed against the AC belt after the car warmed up.  John
Truscott of the D.O.A. suggested that I cut the hose where it crosses the AC belt and
splice it with a piece of pipe.  Now the hose fits better and is much tougher near the AC
belt.

Scott Mueller
1981, #2981


Delorean Joe says,
We use the same hose for all of our replacements and have never had a
> problem with fit. You either have the wrong hose, are installing it
> incorrectly, or have a missing or damaged hose "Q" clip. This clip or clamp
> is designed to keep the hose from coming in contact with the AC drive belt.
> 
> DMC Joe 


 From: Chris Coplen <blarness_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

> 
> 
> > When Erik G and I did his car last month we replaced all the hoses in just
> > the engine compartment (and water pump too) and it took about two days.
> It
> > only took this long because we wanted to go very slowly and document
> > everything as we went along.
I will say
> > this though, the large replacement radiator hose on the left coming off
> the
> > water pump (going to the front of the car) that we received did
> > NOT even come close to fitting without a severe "kink" in one of the
> elbows.
> > We thought we had it on wrong but after a couple of hours fighting with it
> > it was clear, the replacement wasn't even shaped like the original.  No,
> we
> > didn't have them on the wrong side of the car.  We cut it, we twisted it,
> we
> > bent it.  It just did not fit.  It's on now but "rubs" the inside of the
> > engine compartment at the back.  We couldn't clear the belts without doing
> > this.
> >
> > Chris C
> > GIGAWAT
> > 3876




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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:43:03 -0400
From: "James La Londe" <krfds_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Oil pressure guage

What could it mean that the oil pressure guage is really jumpy. While it
never displays low or no pressure, while idoling and while driving the guage
jumps up and down and is quite erattic?

I've e-mailed the list a few times and have gotten no responce, could some
please give me a hand here?? Thanks.

James LaLonde





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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:19:30 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: battery cutoff switches

Group, I use a battery cut off switch 300amps that works fine in three cars. 
They are great when working on the cars or doing shows with doors open.  They 
are $10.99  + 8.25% tax in Texas + par post. Northern Tool & Equiptment is 
where I buy them . They come with two keys. If you can't find then then let 
me know and i will ship you what ever you want. John Hervey, Dherv10_at_dml_aol.com.


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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:35:05 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: One more to go

Well things appear to be going good as we get closer to the show.  We have a 
number of special DeLoreans coming like the Time Machine, Gold Car and the 
Tow Truck not to mention the first production DeLorean and the latest posting 
from Kathryn Delorean stating that she and John are coming.  But no show 
could be complete without Curtis.  

For those of you at the Cincinnati Show Curtis was the show. I think out of 
214 people there he made friends with them all.  And that wild car of his was 
something that had us all talking.

I have been looking for him for months with no luck.
If anyone knows where Curtis is please contact me or tell him to gert in 
touch with me.

Due to privacy I will not publish his last name but if anyone privately wants 
to help just e-mail me.

If you know of any unusual DeLoreans around that you would like to see at the 
show contact me as well.

Thanks 

Ken


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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:11:11 EDT
From: bigbenb84_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean sign.....


        I live in Pensacola, Florida and there is a restraunt called 
McGuire's, it's a real Irish place. And the ceiling is covered in dollar 
bills......everywhere, people sign them and you can staple it up anywhere 
there's room.....you just gotta see it!  
        ANYWAY there is all kinds of things hanging from the walls and I've 
been going to this restraunt for years and never noticed this but above a 
hall-way and above some steps is a giant DMC sign. From what I understand 
(what the bartender told me) is that McGuire (the restraunt owner and real 
Irish dude) got it on a trip over to Ireland (I don't know if he knew JZD) 
and had it shipped back, right around the time "Back To The Future" came out. 
    IT's NOT A RINKY DINK SIGN, It's BIG. It's about 10 feet long and 4 or 5 
feet tall. It's mounted on the wall and the top half looks like stainless 
steal and has DMC cut out and has back lighting so DMC is actually lights. 
And the bottom half  is black and says DeLorean Motor Cars, which are also 
cut out and have light behind, so they light up.
    I'll try to take a picture soon, and scan it.
Anybody else seen a sign like this?

Ben Brennan:  BigBenb84_at_dml_aol.com
I'm 16, I drive a '67 Mustang......not a D but will do.


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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:23:22 EDT
From: burkephoto_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: ExpressAutoParts.com

I came across this auto parts supplier and thought it might be of interest to 
the DML readers.  www.expressautoparts.com   Imagine my surprise when I found 
'Delorean' in the 'auto type' pull down menus!  They actually do list some 
parts.  Pretty sparse, but its worth a look.

Burke


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