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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Original stock 160 speedometer?
From: Joe Fedeli <fedeli_at_dml_excite.com>

2. fuel injectors
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

3. Rust Repair
From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Re: Oil pressure guage
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Original stock 160 speedometer?
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: Original stock 160 speedometer?
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

7. Tailpipe inches :)
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Looking for someone
From: "Tom Watkins watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net" <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>

9. Re: DeLorean sign.....
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

10. Re: DeLorean sign.....
From: "Patrick Cowan" <cowan21_at_dml_erols.com>

11. Oil pressure sender/gauge/installation
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

12. Re: Tailpipe inches :)
From: scottmueller_at_dml_zebra.net

13. Re: Oil pressure guage
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Fedeli <fedeli_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Original stock 160 speedometer?

     Does anyone else have an original DeLorean 160 MPH speedometer in their
car?  This is NOT one of the aftermarket updates (180 MPH) of a refacing for
an original 85 MPH gauge.  These were original equipment made for DeLoreans,
apparently for other countries' markets in the world, that did not have the
85 MPH 'cap' like the US did in '81.  Does anyone else have one on their
car?  I had two.  I bought my car new from the DeLorean dealer before the
bankruptcy in '82.  I talked to the DeLorean East Coast GM _at_dml_ the
distribution site in central Jersey on this issue back in '82 before the
bankruptcy and he informed me of some specific details on this.  If anyone
has some other insight on this, please email me directly so as not to take
up space on the DML.  Thanks!
Joe Fedeli
fedeli_at_dml_excite.com
Voice Mail: 1-888-392-4832 ext.800-441-1837
Fax: 1-888-392-4832 ext. 800-441-1837*





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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:47:09 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: fuel injectors

I think your problem is in the secondary ignition circuit,ie:
ignition 
wires and or spark plugs. To rule out injectors there is a way to
test 
and clean them. You need an injector tester and the specs. All of the 
delorean vender's service centers could check and clean them, it is 
rare for an injector to be bad but it is possible.
 If your wires and plugs haven't been changed in recent memory you 
should do that first, it's easier that digging into the fuel system.
Also a can of injector cleaner could help.

David Teitelbaum

vin 10757



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:41:08 CDT
From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Rust Repair

Group,

       I have a few questions about repairing superficial rust damage to the 
DMC frame. Is there a way to eliminate most / all rust spots without having 
to disassemble the car? Is there a particular coating recommended to recover 
the frame with. What is the best rust inhibitor? Any advice would be great!


Sean
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:59:27 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Oil pressure guage

In a message dated 4/18/00 12:12:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, krfds_at_dml_yahoo.com 
writes:

<< What could it mean that the oil pressure guage is really jumpy. While it
 never displays low or no pressure, while idoling and while driving the guage
 jumps up and down and is quite erattic? >>

Mine does that too.  It stays near the top, pressure wise, but bounces 
around.  The sending unit is also leaking a bit where it screws into the 
engine.  The cure (for both items) is to replace the sending unit sometime 
when you change your oil.  There is a sending unit on each side of the 
engine.  I believe the passenger side one runs the gauge.  (Ask your D parts 
supplier when your order your sending unit.  You might want to replace both 
sending units at the same time.  I think the other one is for the "idiot 
light.") You have to have the oil filter off anyway to get at it.  So I'm 
told.  I'm not due to change my oil just yet.

-Wayne
VIN...11174
"Living the dream!"


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:45:31 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Original stock 160 speedometer?

Hi Joe!
Put a photo of it in the vault so that everyone can see the 160 speedo :)

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

>From: Joe Fedeli <fedeli_at_dml_excite.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Original stock 160 speedometer?
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
>      Does anyone else have an original DeLorean 160 MPH speedometer in 
>their
>car?  This is NOT one of the aftermarket updates (180 MPH) of a refacing 
>for
>an original 85 MPH gauge.  These were original equipment made for 
>DeLoreans,
>apparently for other countries' markets in the world, that did not have the
>85 MPH 'cap' like the US did in '81.  Does anyone else have one on their
>car?  I had two.  I bought my car new from the DeLorean dealer before the
>bankruptcy in '82.  I talked to the DeLorean East Coast GM _at_dml_ the
>distribution site in central Jersey on this issue back in '82 before the
>bankruptcy and he informed me of some specific details on this.  If anyone
>has some other insight on this, please email me directly so as not to take
>up space on the DML.  Thanks!
>Joe Fedeli
>fedeli_at_dml_excite.com
>Voice Mail: 1-888-392-4832 ext.800-441-1837
>Fax: 1-888-392-4832 ext. 800-441-1837*
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:47:44 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: Original stock 160 speedometer?

There were a few factory 140MPH spedos.  You may wont to check the
archives, I think the few owners of those cars have been identified.


Joe Fedeli wrote:
> 
>      Does anyone else have an original DeLorean 160 MPH speedometer in their
> car?  This is NOT one of the aftermarket updates (180 MPH) of a refacing for
<SNIP>


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:53:09 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Tailpipe inches :)

I have recently discovered that my DeLorean have different tailpipe setups, 
and have found out that the previous owner(s) have cut off the original 
tailpipes, then welded bigger ones as a replacement. Of course those were 
made of regular iron and have rusted bad. In other words I need a new 
exhaust system. However, I like the chrome tips that are on, and this is my 
question...

The original muffler/tailpipes assembly can be ordered from DMC Houston, but 
the '81 version does not have chrome tips on. The '82 version have the 
chrome tips (and square tailpipes), but my DeLorean is an '81. I know that 
both version will fit the DeLorean, but Im curious to know the correct 
inches of the 1981 DeLorean tailpipes so that I can get the chrome tips 
locally  and have them ready when my exhaust system arrives. So please- can 
somebody measure their tailpipe ends?

Thanks!
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:57:15 -0000
From: "Tom Watkins watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net" <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
Subject: Looking for someone

I'm looking for a gentleman named Randall Brown.  I'm not sure if he 
read the DML but he bought one of my A/C panel light modification 
wires and I sent it to him.... only the letter came back  with a 
insufficient address note stamped on it.  If Randall Brown is a DML 
member or if anyone knows him please have him contact me via provate 
e-mail so I can get him his item

Thanks

Tom
#5732



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:14:51 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean sign.....

Sounds like the standard dealer sign..  I see one every day when I go in
to my garage :)

I think there were some pictures on a member's web site of the sign..


bigbenb84_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> 
<SNIP sign description>
> Anybody else seen a sign like this?


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:02:25 -0400
From: "Patrick Cowan" <cowan21_at_dml_erols.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean sign.....

Oh My Gosh!

I was there a LONG time ago, and I too discovered the sign
The owner got it from the Ireland factory or a dealer in ireland. It is an
official Company Sign, VERY LARGE, and very nice. The establishment is in
violation of treasury laws for teh whole dollar bills thing...my uncle
pointed that out to me... i found it interesting to find that sign on the
wall, as i had never expected to see one up close and personal. Ben, i
agree, this is a nice place, and it must be worthy, because it had a piece
of "d" history inside!!
If you are near pensacola, i highly recommend this place as a nightspot.

It is called: Molly Maguires Irish Pub in Pensacola Fla.
Look in the enteranceway or closer to the bar for the sign. It should be
near there, you can't miss it!

Patrick Cowan
No D yet, I drive a Riceburner Honda (lol)
cowan21_at_dml_erols.com

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From: <bigbenb84_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:11 PM
Subject: [DML] DeLorean sign.....


>
>         I live in Pensacola, Florida and there is a restraunt called
> McGuire's, it's a real Irish place. And the ceiling is covered in dollar
> bills......everywhere, people sign them and you can staple it up anywhere
> there's room.....you just gotta see it!
>         ANYWAY there is all kinds of things hanging from the walls and
I've
> been going to this restraunt for years and never noticed this but above a
> hall-way and above some steps is a giant DMC sign. From what I understand
> (what the bartender told me) is that McGuire (the restraunt owner and real
> Irish dude) got it on a trip over to Ireland (I don't know if he knew JZD)
> and had it shipped back, right around the time "Back To The Future" came
out.
>     IT's NOT A RINKY DINK SIGN, It's BIG. It's about 10 feet long and 4 or
5
> feet tall. It's mounted on the wall and the top half looks like stainless
> steal and has DMC cut out and has back lighting so DMC is actually lights.
> And the bottom half  is black and says DeLorean Motor Cars, which are also
> cut out and have light behind, so they light up.
>     I'll try to take a picture soon, and scan it.
> Anybody else seen a sign like this?
>
> Ben Brennan:  BigBenb84_at_dml_aol.com
> I'm 16, I drive a '67 Mustang......not a D but will do.
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:02:52 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Oil pressure sender/gauge/installation


krfds_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:
What could it mean that the oil pressure guage is really jumpy. While it 
never displays low or no pressure, while idoling and while driving the guage 
jumps up and down and is quite erattic? >>

-Wayne VIN...11174 writes:
Mine does that too.  It stays near the top, pressure wise, but bounces
around.  The sending unit is also leaking a bit where it screws into the 
engine.  The cure (for both items) is to replace the sending unit sometime 
when you change your oil.  There is a sending unit on each side of the 
engine.  I believe the passenger side one runs the gauge.  (Ask your D parts 
supplier when your order your sending unit.  You might want to replace both 
sending units at the same time.  I think the other one is for the "idiot 
light.") You have to have the oil filter off anyway to get at it.  So I'm 
told.  I'm not due to change my oil just yet.

Here's my 2 cents worth:
DeLorean Midstates Club/Marty Maier (www.midstatedmc.com) sell a new 
calibrated oil sending unit. The sender measures the oil pressure in your 
engine and gives you the info on the oil pressure gauge in the dash. My 
DeLorean VIN 6759 had always the needle on top, pointing to 80psi. Sometimes 
the needle would drop but not far, and then back to the top again. I think 
DMC used a standard oil sending unit from Volvo. It probably matches Volvo 
100%, but it is wrong calibrated on the DMC. The new oil sending unit is $35 
from Mr. Maier. I strongly recommend it. Is it a hard installation? No, you 
can do it yourself.
...

Hi!
My scenario. I climbed under the passenger side of the engine, and found the 
unit at once. The hard part was getting off the old unit. I used some 
loosening stuff (CRC 5-56) and let it cure for a day. Then I managed to 
unscrew it. I cleaned the area around it

(No, I didn't get a shot of oil in my face, neither will you, just be sure 
that the engine is OFF).

I screwed in the new sending unit, and the final installation is the wire at 
the end of the sending unit. The original wire had an O-ring on the end. I 
cut that off (the new unit comes with a square connector), then used an 
electricians tool to strip the insulation off the end of the wire and the 
squeeze the square connector on.

ONE TIP: BE CAREFUL NOT TO CUT TOO MUCH OF THE WIRE, IF YOU DO IT MAY TURN 
UP TO BE TOO SMALL TO REACH THE SENDER!

Mine fitted with a little twist to the connector on the sending unit.
Never having done this before, I must admit I was somewhat excited to see if 
this worked.

Ok, 3 things could happen: 1) The sending unit could be defective 2) The oil 
would just flow out on the garage floor and 3) Er,...that's it :)

So, I turned the key, the PRV came to life instantly. While idling the oil 
pressure gauge showed 80 (its suppose to do this while warming up) and after 
a few minutes it stabilized at 65/70.

In other words, a very successful installation and I strongly recommend Mr. 
Maiers new calibrated oil pressure sender. Now you really will know whats 
going on in your engine!

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:08:40 US/Central
From: scottmueller_at_dml_zebra.net
Subject: Re: Tailpipe inches :)

Stian,
I own an 1981.  The stock exhaust has round stainless steel tubing without any additional
tips welded on.  I like this set up because it never rusts and you can easily shine them
up with a scotch-brite pad.

Scott Mueller
1981, #2981


> tailpipes, then welded bigger ones as a replacement. Of course those were 
> made of regular iron and have rusted bad. In other words I need a new 
> exhaust system. However, I like the chrome tips that are on, 
> Thanks!
> Stian Birkeland
> NORWAY




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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:52:05 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Oil pressure guage

James, I have replace pressure gauges when I get a car as a rule of thumb. 
Better to be safe than sorry. I use a 80Lb pressure gauge. Stopped the 
problem. John. Dherv10_at_dml_aol.com 


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