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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: sounds system back 2 ORIGINAL
From: Hank Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

2. Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!
From: "corry bailey" <spddemon_at_dml_ghgcorp.com>

3. Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!
From: Matthew Lach <mlach_at_dml_ecs.umass.edu>

4. Re: Appraisal.
From: "doctor who" <ohwrd_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. Re: Night-illuminated speedo face (and the rest of the cluster)
From: "doctor who" <ohwrd_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

7. Re: Tires
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

8. For Sale 81 Manual DMC
From: Rich Kula <rkula_at_dml_landrum-brown.com>

9. Re: Should I buy?
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

10. Re: Should I buy?
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

11. Re: Should I buy?
From: paulf52093_at_dml_aol.com

12. early ulster car
From: "Professor Frink" <diashi_c_at_dml_hotmail.com>

13. Re: Re: DeLorean Vanity Plate
From: "robert parker" <roberthparker_at_dml_hotmail.com>

14. Re: Should I buy?
From: "william kay" <empressballroom_at_dml_hotmail.com>

15. I fixed my own defrost switch!!!
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4_at_dml_osu.edu>

16. Re: Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:21:00 -0700
From: Hank Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: sounds system back 2 ORIGINAL

David,

Borrow your Wife's/Girl Friend's/Mother's Hair drier.  After removing the door
seal, use the hair drier to heat the glue that holds the strip on.  Working
carefully with ice picks and small screw drivers, you should be able to remove
the folded over strip without tearing it.

Hank

Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> <snip>
>     ONE MORE question.  when removing the plastic panel that sits in front of
> the rear speakers, how do you get it off with keeping that little black strip
> that runs under the weather stripping? 
> <snip>


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 06:25:23 -0000
From: "corry bailey" <spddemon_at_dml_ghgcorp.com>
Subject: Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!

I am not sure if this is the same one or not but I saw a web site 
about a year or two ago with a delorean that was left in a barn and 
it was for sale.  It was suppose to have damage from the roof caving 
in on the car and just overall lack of care.  I found that site again 
about 2 months ago and the buy said that he wasnt selling it and was 
going to restore it.  I am not sure if this is the same one or not
but 
I hope it helps

Corry Bailey




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "John S." <pharaoh_at_dml_e...>  wrote:
>  About a week ago I saw a picture on the net of a DMC that was 
looking really rough around the egdes abadoned in a barn with a 
caption underneath it saying something along the lines of DMC just 
found in barn with 124 orginal miles. Does anybody have anymore 
information about that car cause it definetly sounds like an 
interesting story. I was thinking about it and if somebody just
bought 
the car and let it sit in some random barn I would like to know more, 
its just to mysteroius. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 02:25:12 -0400
From: Matthew Lach <mlach_at_dml_ecs.umass.edu>
Subject: Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!

You are probably referring to Dusty.

I actually don't think anyone knows the full story behind that car.

You'll be happy to know that Dusty has been completely renovated.

There are som nice pictores and info over at the DeLorean Owners Club UK, at www.delorean.co.uk

Have fun,
Matt


"John S." wrote:

> About a week ago I saw a picture on the net of a DMC that was looking really rough around the egdes abadoned in a barn with a caption underneath it saying something along the lines of DMC just found in barn with 124 orginal miles. Does anybody have anymore information about that car cause it definetly sounds like an interesting story. I was thinking about it and if somebody just bought the car and let it sit in some random barn I would like to know more, its just to mysteroius.
>
> Thanks
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:51:28 PDT
From: "doctor who" <ohwrd_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Appraisal.

Have your insurance company do an appraisal that should satisfy the 
requirement. They will probably want to do one anyway so see if you can 
arrange for them to come out on-site (or bring the car to them) and knock 
down two birds w/one stone. Since you are serious about purchasing the 
vehicle I'm sure the owner will have no problem having the vehicle 
appraised.

hope this helps,
dr. c.

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>Hello..
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>Contacted a bank that gives me good rateas the other day, and found out
>that they can not finance a De Lorean without an authorized appraisal.
>
>Anyone know who would be qualified to make an appraisal of a D?   Who
>should I contact?
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>Thanks,
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:06:02 PDT
From: "doctor who" <ohwrd_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Night-illuminated speedo face (and the rest of the cluster)

The new VW Bugs have what appears to be a blacklight in there instrument 
cluster, I'm going to take a closer look and see if it is indeed a UV light 
or just a set of purple bulbs (w/UV output).

I havent looked very closely at how the lights are mounted in the cluster on 
the D, but I've found a 4" UV light that may possibly be custom fit in 
between the binnacle and the guages.

dr c.
>From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
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>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [DML] Night-illuminated speedo face (and the rest of the 
>cluster)
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:58:37 -0400
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>That sounds like a very good idea but where do you mount the ultraviolet
>(black) light to activate the UV paint?
>
>DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
>Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
>.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: doctor who <ohwrd_at_dml_hotmail.com>
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:48 AM
>Subject: Re: [DML] Night-illuminated speedo face (and the rest of the
>cluster)
>
>
> > If you wanna keep a stock look but wanna have the dials glow, check out
>some
> > UV reactive "transperant" paints by ROSCO paints. [available by theatre
> > supply] I use this stuff in the theatre environment, it is invisible by
> > standard light (daylight) but is highly UV reactive, meaning that 
>someone
> > w/a couple hours and an arts and crafts paintbrush could create a dial
>that
> > glows in different respective colours by night but is invisible by
>daylight.
> >
> >
> > just a thought,
> > dr. c.
> >
> > >From: "Dave Price" <davep_at_dml_stprint.com>
> > >Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> > >To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
> > >Subject: [DML] Night-illuminated speedo face (and the rest of the
>cluster)
> > >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:30:48 -0800
> > >
> > >On the topic of the speedo face, but this relates to the entire gague
> > >cluster....I wanted a modern-looking gague cluster with illuminated
> > >needles, numbers and marks, not the lame way it is now where there are
>just
> > >some lamps lighting up the entire cluster area.
> > >
> > >Obviously, without replacing the gagues could one achieve this, right?
> > >wrong! ;)   My idea was to use a UV (black) light, which, if anyone has
> > >stood by a blacklight wearing white, it glows bright purple, and other
> > >colors (orange, green, yellow) glow their respective colors.
> > >
> > >Well, as it turns out, the white numbering (and the needles) are
>uneffected
> > >by the blacklight (however, the orange numbering works great!) ... so I
>had
> > >planned to create a vinyl sticker (like the 140MPH speedo face) that
>would
> > >replace all of the gagues with blacklight-reactive painted numbers....
> > >I'd love to know if Marty's speedo face responds to blacklight, and, if
>so,
> > >could the outfit that printed those faces be contacted to produce the
>other
> > >gagues as well?   I've found a source for mini-blacklight florescent
>sticks
> > >that would fit perfectly in the space between the binacle and the
>gagues...
> > >  Anyone else want to see those numbers glowing brightly without the
> > >distraction of a white light illuminating the whole cluster at night?
> > >
> > >Another cool cosmetic add-on would be a bezel around the gagues to give
> > >them that "finished" look, round gagues rather than that tacky square
> > >look... maybe in stainless steel?
> > >
> > >Suggestions, opinions?  Anyone want to take on the project?  I'd buy 
>it,
>I
> > >just can't afford the R&D ;)
> > >
> > >- Dave
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:48:47 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!

The only "barn" discovery I am aware of is mine, "DUSTY" was discovered in a
barn only 25 miles from where I live ( in the middle of England) Dusty was
bought my a local business man from an car auction, following the collapse
of the DeLorean factory.   Dusty is also a Right Hand Drive.  In the early
80's Deloreans were not too popular with the British authorities, so when
people came to register/tax them for road use, some local taxing offices
tried to put obstacles in the way, asking question about "type approval"
lights etc. Dusty's old owner did not pursue the matter and simply left the
car, sat in a gloomy, dusty, but dry barn.
I arranged to go and photograph it, but when I saw it covered in filth, but
basically "like new" underneath it all...I knew I had to have it!  I had to
pay a very good price for it, but I was happy. I borrowed a covered car
transporter to take it home in. I kept all the muck on it for the next few
weeks, so that it could appear "as barn fresh" at our big classic car show
(NEC).
It was a big hit with the public ( see pictures on our website
www.delorean.co.uk ).
Judging by what I've read on DML, I was very lucky with how easy it was to
get it running. All I did was change the oil and filter, put in two gallons
of unleaded, new battery, and when I turned the key the "son of a gun" burst
into life! Everthing else worked, eletric, windows, lights,brakes, etc. The
clutch made a few funny noises at first, but soon cleared. Now Dusty is "all
scrubbed up", and still with only 4 miles on the clock! She is now a
"trailer queen".

Chris   Hon Sec. DOC. (UK)




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From: "John S." <pharaoh_at_dml_enter.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 5:42 AM
Subject: [DML] DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!


> About a week ago I saw a picture on the net of a DMC that was looking
really rough around the egdes abadoned in a barn with a caption underneath
it saying something along the lines of DMC just found in barn with 124
orginal miles. Does anybody have anymore information about that car cause it
definetly sounds like an interesting story. I was thinking about it and if
somebody just bought the car and let it sit in some random barn I would like
to know more, its just to mysteroius.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:57:35 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Tires

On what basis did you make this conclusion? Have you driven the car with
Yokohama's or any of the other brands? If your thinking of buying American
you're out of luck because most U.S. tire manufacturers are now foreign
owned. I've tried Goodyear Gatorbacks, Rikens, and I've seen friends wear
out Dunlaps like they were gum rubber. I know those who tried Firestones
and, while they were ok, they were pleasantly surprised when they switched
to the intermediates.The Yoko AVS Intermediates perform like they were
designed specifically for the DeLorean and sell for a very reasonable price.

Bruce Benson

> In my opinion, yokohama is an inferior tire when compared with
> Firestone, Goodyear, BFG,etc...

> cliff




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:44:14 -0400
From: Rich Kula <rkula_at_dml_landrum-brown.com>
Subject: For Sale 81 Manual DMC

Dear Group.

For Sale, 1981 Manual DMC.  Vin Number 1460.  33,XXX miles.  Single Turbo,
Changed R-12 to R-134 System June 1999.  New Alternator, New Parking Break,
New Throttle Cable, Some New Radiator Hoses, New Slave Cylinder, Black
Interior.  Looking to get around $14,000.  Located near Chicago.  Any
questions?  Please e-mail me directly.  Looking for a quick sale, no
reasonable offer refused.

Richard
mail to: RKula_at_dml_Landrum-Brown.com



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:46:50 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: Should I buy?

John S. wrote:

> . . . I'm scared because the car is gonna suck alot of my funds up.
> I'm worried that I'm gonna have to invest $1000's a year just to
> keep it run. I can pay for a car and maybe another $1000 for some
> work. But this mechanic says there gonna be a constant cost.

John, it was smart of you to consult a mechanic and bring your question to this group.

The answer to your question is YES.  A DeLorean can provide very reliable transportation.  Just remember that reliable transportation is not the same as free transportation.

We recently conducted a survey of people who use their DeLoreans as daily drivers.  The gist of it was that you should budget at least $1,600 per year to maintain a DeLorean as a daily driver.  Some years you might not need that much, but other years you will need more.

Your mechanic is right: any used car will require upkeep that will be a constant cost to you.  Maintenance cost will be lower if you buy a relatively new car, but then the initial cost of the car will be higher.  For a good combination of low initial cost and low maintenance cost look for a 6-7 year old Toyota . . . but that's not what you want me to say.

At your age you should budget a few thousand more for insurance if you drive a DeLorean (or any sports car).  When I was 21 I drove a Trans Am, and my insurance was astronomincal.

The good news is that DeLorean parts are fairly inexpensive, especially when compared to Porsche, Jaguar, Lotus, and similar parts.

If you are serious about owning a DeLorean you should continue reading the DML and consider joining the DOA.  You might also want to come to the DeLorean Car Show in Cleveland or the DOA Expo in Las Vegas to meet some owners and learn more.

- Mike Substelny
VIN 1280, 7 years as a "daily driver"



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:59:34 HST
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Should I buy?

Once I got my car on the road, and worked all of the minor bugs out (all the 
common updates needed), it has performed like any other reliable foreign car 
I have ever owned. My car sat for 9 years too, so it needed a lot of 
attention. But once I got everything done, all of my expenses have been for 
aesthetic purposes, and not mechanical. Any D can be reliable. It's a good 
car, with a bad rep because of all of the garage queen cars out there. When 
they sit, like any car, they will develop problems. It's too bad that so 
many D's are sitting. If the majority of the cars out there are sitting, 
then that high number of cars will most likely have reliablity problems. 
Hence, a large number of complaints, which equals a bad rep. Does that make 
sense? I think most of you get what I'm saying... DRIVE THE CAR!!!! :oP

---Dan Vin#5493 driving as much as possible...


>
>I have a question for anyone with a Delorean. Im 21 years old and have 
>wanted a DMC for about a year. My parents agreed to co-sign for a DMC but 
>I'm scared because the car is gonna suck alot of my funds up. Im worried 
>that I'm gonna have to invest $1000's a year just to keep it run. I can pay 
>for a car and maybe another $1000 for some work. But this mechanic says 
>there gonna be a constant cost. So my question is, can a DMC be a reliable 
>piece of transportation. Does it need constant upkeep. Please help. 
>pharaoh_at_dml_enter.net .
>
>Thanks for any help
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:09:09 EDT
From: paulf52093_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Should I buy?

The mechanic is right ... maybe.  Like ANY 20-year-old vehicle, a DeLorean is 
going to have some things that go wrong, just peter out from old age, or 
suddenly decide to give up the ghost.  BUT if you get a car that has been 
carefully maintained, it should not require extraordinary upkeep.  The 
obvious problem is that any car that has been carefully maintained will cost 
you more to begin with.

Can a DMC be a "reliable piece of transporation?"  Certainly!  But it would 
be a VERY good idea to consult with a reliable mechanic BEFORE you buy to be 
sure that you won't face too many unanticipated expenses.  Yes, the DeLorean 
(like ANY car) needs upkeep, but it doesn'y have to be a constant drain on 
your wallet.

Finally, you have to keep in mind that you'll be driving a classic car that 
will be the center of attention wherever you go.  That factor MAY make it 
worth putting up with a few inconveniences and expenses of dealing with a 
20-year-old automobile.  (And, of course, it can be a babe magnet!)

If you decide to go ahead, may you have the best of luck!  I've driven my 
DeLorean since 1993, and have never (well, hardly ever!) regretted purchasing 
it!

GOOD LUCK!

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:29:52 GMT
From: "Professor Frink" <diashi_c_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: early ulster car

There's a D with a british reg RIA 7124 that appears a lot in the gold 
portfolio with a different style rear bumper detail (silver rectangle with 
black 'DeLorean' writing). This was an early car, and so had the pleated 
bonnet with the gas flap. A few months ago, I was rooting through an old 
book at school, and found RIA 7124 with an 82 bonnet!
So, I'd like to know the history of this car. Was it used by DMC for 
promotional purposes (explaing the chnaged bonnet)? If so, where is it now? 
And does anyone know the VIN? Oh, and it was minus the DMC badge in the 
portfolio, but has one in my schoolbook. This is probably one for the UK 
owners, as they might has seen or owned this car. It also had a sister car, 
RIA 7126, that was identical.

Thanks,

Matt, 'dreaming the dream'
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:13:01 PDT
From: "robert parker" <roberthparker_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean Vanity Plate

Try going to a Flea Market, State, or County Fair, finding one of those 
booths that do airbrush custom tags. You can thus have any color, style, or 
background for YOUR tag. Happy hunting.    Drive Stainless!   Robert  VIN 
6924

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>Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Vanity Plate
>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:21:18 EST
>
>
>     My daughter has suggested I change the  license plates on my car to 
>"Time
>Machine" but we don't know how to make it fit.  We have room for seven
>letters.  If you have any suggestions please respond. We use to advertise 
>for
>our past business "Birchwood Restaurant Yarmouth, ME"
>     Some of the things we've thought about were TYMACHN, TMACHNE if you 
>have
>any thoughts...help us.
>#003437
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:25:46 GMT
From: "william kay" <empressballroom_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Should I buy?

Mike- I've had my Delorean for about 2 years. It is a fun car. It is costly 
if you want to maintain it properly. Being an older car, there is always a 
list of things to be fixed. If you bring it in for brakes, there will be 
other odds and ends that a mechanic will suggest "you might want to fix..." 
It might seem a bit pricy up front, but in the long run, you'll save 
yourself some trouble. If you are on a tight budget, it is not the car for 
you. I've had my own business for 3 years. During that time whenever I have 
needed repairs and upgrades, there was always spare cash around. Now I am 
opening a club and in between businesses and I just don't want to spend the 
extra cash on car repairs. Your best bet is to save your money and buy a 
Delorean from a place like P.J. Grady, DMC Houston or any other Delorean 
specialty shop. Again, up front it will cost more, but your long term 
troubles will be less. What you may be buying for a cheap price is expensive 
trouble.






>From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DML] Should I buy?
>Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:46:50 -0400
>
>John S. wrote:
>
> > . . . I'm scared because the car is gonna suck alot of my funds up.
> > I'm worried that I'm gonna have to invest $1000's a year just to
> > keep it run. I can pay for a car and maybe another $1000 for some
> > work. But this mechanic says there gonna be a constant cost.
>
>John, it was smart of you to consult a mechanic and bring your question to 
>this group.
>
>The answer to your question is YES.  A DeLorean can provide very reliable 
>transportation.  Just remember that reliable transportation is not the same 
>as free transportation.
>
>We recently conducted a survey of people who use their DeLoreans as daily 
>drivers.  The gist of it was that you should budget at least $1,600 per 
>year to maintain a DeLorean as a daily driver.  Some years you might not 
>need that much, but other years you will need more.
>
>Your mechanic is right: any used car will require upkeep that will be a 
>constant cost to you.  Maintenance cost will be lower if you buy a 
>relatively new car, but then the initial cost of the car will be higher.  
>For a good combination of low initial cost and low maintenance cost look 
>for a 6-7 year old Toyota . . . but that's not what you want me to say.
>
>At your age you should budget a few thousand more for insurance if you 
>drive a DeLorean (or any sports car).  When I was 21 I drove a Trans Am, 
>and my insurance was astronomincal.
>
>The good news is that DeLorean parts are fairly inexpensive, especially 
>when compared to Porsche, Jaguar, Lotus, and similar parts.
>
>If you are serious about owning a DeLorean you should continue reading the 
>DML and consider joining the DOA.  You might also want to come to the 
>DeLorean Car Show in Cleveland or the DOA Expo in Las Vegas to meet some 
>owners and learn more.
>
>- Mike Substelny
>VIN 1280, 7 years as a "daily driver"
>
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:12:16 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: I fixed my own defrost switch!!!

Dear List,
    I'm proud to announce that I just fixed my defroster switch...all by
myself!!  I have had my car for two years and the switch has been broken
the whole time.  Mainly this was because I lost the roller pin that goes
in it.  Today, however, I found a machine screw that was the exact same
size as the roller pin, so I cut off the head, plopped it in, assembled
the other parts, plugged in the switch and...WOO-HOO, IT WORKS!!
    Now if I could just get my angle drive retainer nut off, I'd be
happy! *grin*
        Josh
        VIN 5102
        VIN 15964



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:57:40 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: DMC abadoned in barn!!!!!!!!

In a message dated 4/4/00 11:18:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
spddemon_at_dml_ghgcorp.com writes:

<< I am not sure if this is the same one or not but I saw a web site 
 about a year or two ago with a delorean that was left in a barn and 
 it was for sale.  It was suppose to have damage from the roof caving 
 in on the car and just overall lack of care.   >>
Corry,

  You are talking about my car.  My car was in a barn in upstate NY and in 
1994 NY got hit with a LOT of snow storms and the roof on the barn caved in 
on the car causing some dents on the roof "T" panel, the hood and the 
windshield to break.  The windshield has been repaired long before I bought 
the car in 1998.  I do however take the comment you made "just overall lack 
of care"  offensive since you have never seen my car in person and only know 
the car by a few pictures on my web page.  And no my car doesn't have 124 
original miles....it has 30,721 original miles.

Later,
Nick
VIN#1852


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