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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 205

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There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. DeLorean Safety Vehicle
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

2. Re: exhaust manifold
From: "Rob Hook" <robhook_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

3. The next time you want to complain about parts prices, think Lotus.
From: "Rob Hook" <robhook_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

4. RE: exhaust manifold
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. Re: Cruise Control
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

6. Re: other Gullwings
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: Fuel Filter Woes!!
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

8. Re: The next time you want to complain about parts prices, think Lotus.
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com

9. Hope for the DMC2 (was: dmc2 watch a good investment?)
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

10. Re: dmc2 watch a good investment?
From: "Gabe W." <thecreech_at_dml_home.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 00:04:57 -0400
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: DeLorean Safety Vehicle

Hello, all --

Found this website about the "DeLorean Safety Vehicle" while surfing
tonight...

http://www.t.kth.se/t98_emm/fart/dsv.htm

Stian, is this something you can translate for us?

- Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL
- Visit my Painted DeLoreans website:
- http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:24:15 -0700
From: "Rob Hook" <robhook_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: exhaust manifold

Wait...the first shop said it was an exhaust manifold and the second said it
was a HEAD gasket?  Are you sure the second one didn't say exhaust manifold
gasket?  That's the most likely scenario.  The exhaust manifold gaskets go
out on the DeLorean quite often.  I need to do that repair to my car now.
You can probably just take it to another emissions shop and they'll pass it.
A bad head gasket would never give the same symptoms as a cracked exhaust
manifold.

What part of Virginia are you in?

--Rob Hook

-----Original Message-----
From: Willie Mack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:47 PM
Subject: [DML] exhaust manifold


>
>I recently bought a Delorean, and the state of virginia is requiring me to
>get an emissions test.  When i took it in to get tested the attendent said
i
>had a cracked exhaust manifold.  But when i took it in to have the manifold
>looked at they told me it was the head gasket.   Does any of this sound
>right?
>Thanks
>  Willie
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 03:59:32 -0700
From: "Rob Hook" <robhook_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: The next time you want to complain about parts prices, think Lotus.

I've been a DeLorean owner for several years now but recently I've been
thinking of upgrading (performance-wise, especially) to a Lotus Esprit.
Well, I've been doing some research on it and let me tell you...the prices
for Lotus parts make prices of DeLorean parts look like a pittance.  For
example:

Wheel lug bolts $17 each
Suspension bushings $19 to $50 each
Spark plugs $27 each
Esprit (Renault) gearbox $16,000   (I just bought a NEW DeLorean
transmission for $3,000)
910 (4-cyl turbo) Engine $42,000

Man, that twin turbo or supercharging kit is starting to look pretty good,
actually.

So, next time you call Warren at DMC Houston and complain that the
*whatever* is too expensive, think about those poor Lotus owners out there.
The worst part is, they don't turn nearly as many heads as we do. ;)

--Rob Hook

P.S. And as for the person who asked if the Lotus V8 radiator would fit a
DeLorean, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU DO THAT?





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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:23:38 -0400
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: exhaust manifold

If you're hearing a "tapping" noise, it's most likely a bad exhause manifold gaskit. You might have a broken stud which makes the manifold pull away from the engine and there's exhaust leak and your tapping sound. I think that's what the inspection guy was talking about. I doubt it's cracked because they are so thick, but it is possible. If it's still good, the manifold needs to be resurfaced before being reinstalled. I'd replace all the studs while you're there if I were you. I got my exhaust service kit from PJGrady www.PJGrady.com It has everything you need for both sides of the engine. Mine works great now! :-)

---Dan




I recently bought a Delorean, and the state of virginia is requiring me to
get an emissions test.  When i took it in to get tested the attendent said i
had a cracked exhaust manifold.  But when i took it in to have the manifold
looked at they told me it was the head gasket.   Does any of this sound
right?
Thanks
  Willie


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:47:18 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cruise Control

John Hanley has a custom fitted cruise control in his car. There's a photo of
it here

http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/pictures/Johns_cruise_control.jpg

I can't remember any details I'm afraid.

Martin
www.delorean.co.uk

Richard Petrie wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> As it is little mentioned on the list here (at least from what I can
> remember) the D does not come with cruise control. Is it hard to have
> installed ( can you trust the aftermarket type) or is it NOT recommended??
>
> Thanks!
> Richard
> _______




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:08:58 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: other Gullwings

In a message dated 9/1/00 5:37:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

<< our beloved DeLorean will always be GULLWING ONE! >>

Yes-  there certainly aren't enough gullwing Mercedes on the road to steal 
our thunder.  BTW, I read last week in a Dr.'s office that the overall 
collector car market has cooled.  (Architectural Digest, Motoring edition, I 
think it was.)  No mention of the DeLorean, but they said the price of a 
gullwing Mercedes has dropped from around $500,000 to about $300,000.  I'm so 
glad I bought a D "instead"...LOL  I've often said, don't buy a car for an 
investment, buy it for the fun of it.  Gee, do you suppose there's a Mercedes 
gullwing owners web mailing list out there sinking the market by asking how 
to fix droopy doors???  ;)

-Wayne
Living the dream!
11174



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 06:04:00 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Filter Woes!!

When I replaced the pick up line on my car I noticed that the fuel 
pump screen (the "filter baggy") was larger then the hose. What the 
manufacturer (or somebody else did) was the put glue, or some type of 
resin inside the lip that connects to the hose to fill the gap to 
make a snug fitting. What appears to have happened was the resin had 
started to rot and chunk off. When I removed the hose from the sump, 
the screen finally fell off (since replaced). What it sounds like is 
some of the resin has gotten sucked up the hose and is clogging it. 
The pump is probably buzzing from being starved, and this in turn is 
causing the "bucking" of the car durring acceleration. Best case: the 
resin is stuck in the pick up hose, and will have to be 
removed/flushed out. Worse case: resin may have gone thru the hose 
and ended up in the pump potenialy damaging it. In any case running 
the pump w/o a screen on it can reduce the life of both the fuel pump 
and the fuel filter if not cause premature failure by getting them 
clogged up.

-Robert
vin 6585

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Cliff Andrews <fen2k_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Question for you guys... well my delorean has been
> exhibiting "bucking" on acceleration... first thing i
> did was replace my pickup line.. i did this... still
> happing.. well.. i went back and checked today.. 
> 
> My fuel filter baggy at the end of the pickup line has
> broken off the end of the hose and i have driven the
> car twice since this has happened.. so im pumping in
> unfiltered gas into the pump.  My pump has been making
> some groaing noise as well..
> 
> What am i facing now?
> 
> -Cliff
> 
> 
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:59:43 -0000
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com
Subject: Re: The next time you want to complain about parts prices, think Lotus.

> 
> P.S. And as for the person who asked if the Lotus V8 radiator would 
fit a
> DeLorean, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU DO THAT?

The reason I asked that question is that I found a NEW Lotus v-8 
radiator for less than a new Delorean Radiator,also if you order the 
parts (lotus parts)directly from (Britian) the factory they are 
priced to about what the Delorean parts are(for a 1984 Lotus)as a 
friend of mine is Restoring a 1984,and found that the prices in this 
country are as you said (Waaayyy over priced).

Claude
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 08:04:04 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Hope for the DMC2 (was: dmc2 watch a good investment?)

It's really hard to determine weather or not the value of the wrist 
watch will ever increase, but the future is starting to look bright. 
Even if it is only a tiny spark of possibility...

One it's own, this is pretty interesting enough: Packard Motor 
Company is up for sale. Yes the same company that JZD himself once 
worked for! And it's up for auction on ebay! Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=425167008&r=0&t=0

According to the description of the item, packard even has a working 
prototype vehicle. Included in the auction are the prototypes and 
even tooling to help build the cars including body dies! The only 
thing that hasn't been done is EPA testing & the raising of sufficent 
working capitol. Obviously if this one little company can come along 
this far with the development of the car, the D2 has the very same 
potential if not a better chance! The sight of a brand-new DeLorean 
sitting on the showroom floor may be a closer reality then first 
thought possible...

-Robert
vin 6585

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "TK" <TKNBA_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> i was wondering about the dmc2 timepiece that is being offered and 
i'm curious of other peoples thoughts on if you think it is a good 
investment or not.
> 
>  As most know its selling for about 3,000 dollars and reserves a 
new dmc2 sports car in your name,                  ( which who knows 
will actually come out) 
> 
> but no matter if the car comes out or not the timepiece , in 
itself ,a stainless steel wonder , a part of the delorean history, 
may be worth something more in the future,
> 
> and i suppose if the new car comes out , the watch may be worth 
even more than if it doesn't--------
> imagine owning a car and always being able to show it off by 
showing people your wrist , people that buy the car and didn't hear 
about the offer, like we did, will want one.
> 
> not to mention that the new car in itself might or might not be a 
good investment................only time will tell
> 
> so i would like to hear some thoughts on if you think the timepiece 
or the new car is a good investment to make.
> 
> -TK
> 
> VIN-   hopefully by next spring- NYC AREA IF SELLERS ARE WONDERING 
(10,000 market )
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:34:44 -0700
From: "Gabe W." <thecreech_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: Re: dmc2 watch a good investment?

I don't think they are selling it as an investment. I think their selling it
to to people who like Deloreans. For example, its rare, when restoring a car
your going to make a profit, its not an investment type of thing. People do
it because they love the car and have fun doing it. Watch buyers want to
support the DMC2 because of their love for the original.


----- Original Message -----
From: "TK" <TKNBA_at_dml_prodigy.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: [DML] dmc2 watch a good investment?


> i was wondering about the dmc2 timepiece that is being offered and i'm
curious of other peoples thoughts on if you think it is a good investment or
not.
>
>  As most know its selling for about 3,000 dollars and reserves a new dmc2
sports car in your name,                  ( which who knows will actually
come out)
>
> but no matter if the car comes out or not the timepiece , in itself ,a
stainless steel wonder , a part of the delorean history, may be worth
something more in the future,
>
> and i suppose if the new car comes out , the watch may be worth even more
than if it doesn't--------
> imagine owning a car and always being able to show it off by showing
people your wrist , people that buy the car and didn't hear about the offer,
like we did, will want one.
>
> not to mention that the new car in itself might or might not be a good
investment................only time will tell
>
> so i would like to hear some thoughts on if you think the timepiece or the
new car is a good investment to make.
>
> -TK
>
> VIN-   hopefully by next spring- NYC AREA IF SELLERS ARE WONDERING (10,000
market )
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
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