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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Need Help - Richmond Show
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_ig2.net>

2. Re: Strange Noise and belt problem
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>

3. Fwd: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

4. Stainless Steel Braided Clutch Line
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. Paint removal
From: "Matt Spittle" <mds328_at_dml_psu.edu>

6. Mixed Interiors
From: jdsjlv_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: Our first "long" trip
From: lovdmc12_at_dml_aol.com

8. Mystery Wires
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

9. Caravan to VA show from NJ
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

10. Re: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: Mixed Interiors
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

12. Stiff clutch
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: Our first "long" trip
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

14. Re: Stiff clutch
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

15. Re: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

16. Re: Mixed Interiors
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>

17. "Clunk" in turns
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman_at_dml_indexdesign.com>

18. RE: Our first "long" trip
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

19. ADMIN Egroups website down
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

20. VIN Check digits
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

21. Re:"long" trip tool kit
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

22. RE: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

23. RE: Stiff clutch
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

24. DeLorean Store Now Open
From: "Michael C. Babb, MCSE, MCT, MCP-I, CNA" <michael_at_dml_babbtechnology.com>

25. Re: Stiff clutch
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:45:46 -0400
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_ig2.net>
Subject: RE: Need Help - Richmond Show

The directions for the tech session are:
From 95 take the Parham Road exit in Richmond VA going West.  At the 1st
light is the Holiday Inn that we have a $62 special rate (under the IG2
name) and at the third light make a left and the tech session is on the
right (8000 Villa Park Drive).
A map is at www.dmc12.com

For the show please go to the show site which is www.britishcarclub.com

For additional information, please call me on my cell phone (804)
399-2552.

Jack Singer
jsinger_at_dml_ig2.net




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:49:22 -0400
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: Re: Strange Noise and belt problem

Check your pulley alignment!

Use a yardstick and make sure all of the pulleys are lined up properly.
I've seen many different types of cars do that exact same thing (black
dust everywhere) when the pulleys aren't aligned correctly.  The motion
of the pulleys completely saws through the belt until it simply snaps.

Being a Delco alternator, it may not line up exactly at first.  Usually
you can use washers to space it to fit correctly.  Also, check that when
they repaired your alt. that they did not replace the pulley facing the
wrong direction.  That's the most common cause of misalignment.

-Dave Stragand
http://www.ProjectVixen.com
Vin #05927




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:05:18 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Fwd: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE

If I can get some track time here in Houston for next summer, what 
say we give it a shot?

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

>
>I HAVE POSTED ANOTHER GRAPH ADDING THE COMPARISON OF THE NEW ENGINE TO MARTY'S
>SINGLE TURBO ENGINE.  IT CAN BE FOUND IN THE EGROUPS FILES. UNDER TURBO
>COMPARISON.
>
>THE GRAPH IS INTERESTING IN THAT BOTH CARS ARE ABOUT AS FAST IN THE 1/4 MILE.
>
>IF WOULD BE AN INTERESTING RACE.  BOTH CARS WOULD BE PARALLEL UNTIL ABOUT 60
>MPH, THEN THE TURBO WOULD PULL AHEAD.  AT 80 THE NEW ENGINE WOULD CATCH UP AND
>BOTH WOULD FINISH ABOUT SAME TIME.
>
>BOB



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:02:41 GMT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Stainless Steel Braided Clutch Line


Today the garage that handles my DeLorean installed a new stainless steel 
braided clutch line from DMC Houston. The original plastic one was removed.

WHAT A DIFFERENCE!
I imagined it would work great but this is like having a brand new car!
The old clutch pedal was hard as kicking a brick wall! After installing the 
new updated clutch line its like pushing the clutch of a modern 2000 car!

I really recommend it! So if your clutch is stiff as #$%&"$& then order a 
new stainless steel braided clutch line now!

I never ever imagined that the difference and improvement would be so great! 
A well-worthy investment! Man, this car rocks!!!

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:23:45 -0400
From: "Matt Spittle" <mds328_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Paint removal

Is it possible to remove paint from a DeLorean providing that no Bondo or
otherwise was used on the car?  How much would a process like this usually
cost and is it recommended?  It seems DeLoreans can be obtained at much
cheaper prices if they are painted, so I'm wondering if its worth paying
$7500 for a painted one and then removing it.

Please advise,

Matt Spittle

MODERATORS NOTE: Here's another topic with a ton of info in the archives. Seach egroups and on www.dmcnews.com




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:52:18 EDT
From: jdsjlv_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Mixed Interiors

I am curious about the '83's and the colors of their interiors. Does anyone 
know when the company started using gray and black? Which color was 
predominant? I have seen the pics in the vault of the '83 with the black 
seats. Did any come with gray seats, black middle console, black dash & 
binnacle, gray/black door inserts or any other combinations? Are there are 
any owners that can post pics or comment on this subject?
Thanks,
Joshua Schwartz
Trumbull, CT
001292
All black/dark gray carpet 



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:57:29 EDT
From: lovdmc12_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Our first "long" trip

I had the same concerns the first time I took my DeLorean on a long trip.  
I'd had several parts replaced and thought I had all of the bugs worked out.  
We drove it from SC to the Autofest Nationals '99 in Evansville, Indiana.  
After the show we went to the Auburn-Cord-Dusenberg museum in Auburn, 
Indiana.  All total, the DeLorean racked up 1300 miles.  The angle drive died 
on the way back through Kentucky, so I had to gauge the speed on the tach.

In June we drove it to and from Cleveland, and it never missed a beat.  My 
DeLorean seems to enjoy long trips better than the short weekend runs it 
usually gets.  Make sure all your fluid levels are good, and you should be 
fine if you've taken care of the car.

Brian
VIN 1597



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:31:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Mystery Wires

I have some mystery wires in my engine compartment, thought someone might be
able to tell me what they are....

By the water overflow tank/alternator, I have a WHITE wire and a
turquoise/yellow (blue/yellow, maybe?) The blue/yellow wire is either tapped
or is a double wire, which is connected at a 3-way joint to a blue wire-
it's definitely a hack job.

Inside the relay compartment, there is a thick brown wire with a
connector...  I know there are a few brown ones in there but maybe someone
can decypher my garble....

thanks in advance...

Jim
1537






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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:03:37 -0400
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Caravan to VA show from NJ

A few of us will be driving down together to the VA show early next Friday afternoon. If anyone from the NJ/NY/PA/DE area would like to join our little venture, please e-mail me privately. Tell me where you're coming from so I can arrange a meeting place and time. I'll do my best to accommodate all. Thank you.

---Dan


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:37:58 EDT
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE

James,

   Set it up and we'll give it a go !  Looser buys the beer, right   :-)

   I assume we're talking about doing this during the DMC Houston Open House. 
If you're going to the extent of trying to get a track, maybe we could turn 
it into some sort of "driving / track" type event others may be interested in 
participating in also. 

   I can already see we're going to have lots of fun in Houston next summer !

   "Single Turbo"  Marty



In a message dated 9/12/00 3:21:13 PM Central Daylight Time, james_at_dml_usadmc.com 
writes:

<< If I can get some track time here in Houston for next summer, what 
 say we give it a shot?
 
 James Espey
 DeLorean Motor Company
 Houston, Texas >>



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:35:19 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Mixed Interiors

The factory may have kept records on this, but none have surfaced to 
date that I am aware of.

I have heard of '83 model cars that had combinations as you describe, 
but never actually seen any. Any model with a VIN after 10578 with a 
black interior (black seats, console, dash, binnacle, door panels) 
will have a strip of grey carpeting (trimmed in grey vinyl) at the 
very bottom edge of the door panel. I have yet to see a door panel 
that was properly trimmed in black vinyl at this point on a 
post-10578 VIN car.

There were three different colors/types of carpet. A fuzzy 'charcoal' 
(black interior cars up to 10578), a fuzzy 'grey' (grey interior cars 
up to 10578) and a smooth 'grey' that was used for both black and 
grey interior cars from 10579.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

>I am curious about the '83's and the colors of their interiors. Does anyone
>know when the company started using gray and black? Which color was
>predominant? I have seen the pics in the vault of the '83 with the black
>seats. Did any come with gray seats, black middle console, black dash &
>binnacle, gray/black door inserts or any other combinations? Are there are
>any owners that can post pics or comment on this subject?
>Thanks,
>Joshua Schwartz
>Trumbull, CT
>001292
>All black/dark gray carpet



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:40:58 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Stiff clutch

In a message dated 9/12/00 4:21:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

<< The old clutch pedal was hard as kicking a brick wall!  >>

Interesting.  I put in a new ss clutch line, master cylinder and slave, and 
the pedal is still pretty stiff.  It's the only manual transmission car I 
drive, so I have nothing to compare it to, though a friend drove it and said 
it was brutal.  He's a little guy, but drives/flies everything from a Harley 
to an airplane.  I figured it was normal. (I did that upgrade right after 
getting the car, when I was still reacquainting myself with a manual trans, 
so I can't really recall any before and after difference.)  What about it, 
list... is that normal, or out of adjustment?    I do hear a different sound 
when the pedal is depressed. I hope that doesn't mean my clutch is starting 
to go- and somebody adjusted it to compensate... does it? =8-O

-Wayne
Living the dream!
vin 11174



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:12:50 -0400
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Our first "long" trip

Howard,
Make sure you do a cooling system test, I don't know if you replaced your
cooling hoses yet but if you pressurize your cooling system to 15 pounds and
it holds for 15 minutes you should be ok. I usually pack a 10mm and 15 mm
wrench, pliers, screw drivers, duct tape, flashlite, and road flares.
Fortuately I've never needed any of them.

See ya at the show, and don't forget the tech session and cook out on
Saturday the 23rd.

Dave Sontos

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard S. Smith" <TeacupFox_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:05 AM
Subject: [DML] Our first "long" trip


> We purchased our D last April with 348 original miles. We have the
> engine broken in and it seems to be running fine. We have not had any
> problems so far (knock on wood) and we now have 1,200 miles on the
> car. We are planning to attend the Richmond, Virginia British Car
> Show where the D is the marque. This is a four and half hour drive
> from where we live (I-95 at 65 mph most of the trip).  After reading
> the message board for some time I feel a little uneasy about the trip





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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:55:25 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Stiff clutch

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, deloreanernst_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Interesting.  I put in a new ss clutch line, master cylinder and 
slave, and 
> the pedal is still pretty stiff.  It's the only manual transmission 
car I 
> drive, so I have nothing to compare it to, though a friend drove it 
and said 
> it was brutal.

I found that replacing the clutch, including lubricating the clutch 
fork pivot point and throwout bearing sliding surfaces made the most 
difference. The original poster on this must have had some friction 
in the slave cylinder (or a pinched line), but the most vulnerable 
place for clutch friction is the TO bearing and the fork pivot ball. 
In mine, the pivot ball was completely dry and the rubber seal was 
missing. If you analyze the design, you can see that any water that 
gets in from above thru the engine cover can run right down the 
clutch fork to the pivot. The rubber flap on the bellhousing is about 
useless. 

Unfortunately both require removing the trans to access. 

Dave Swingle




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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:24:45 -0500
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE

I'm certainly interested!! Track event, autocross, or even drag strip. I'm
game!! 

Mark N
VIN 6820

At 05:37 PM 9/12/00 EDT, you wrote:
<snip>
>If you're going to the extent of trying to get a track, maybe we could turn 
>it into some sort of "driving / track" type event others may be interested
in 
>participating in also. 
>
>   I can already see we're going to have lots of fun in Houston next summer !
>
>   "Single Turbo"  Marty
>
>In a message dated 9/12/00 3:21:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
james_at_dml_usadmc.com 
>writes:
>
><< If I can get some track time here in Houston for next summer, what 
> say we give it a shot?
> 
> James Espey
> DeLorean Motor Company
> Houston, Texas >>




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 04:14:04 PDT
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Mixed Interiors

Joshua:
I have an '83.  Mine is mostly black interior (dash, seats, console).  But, 
I do have the light gray carpet and light gray carpet on the doors.  The 
combination looks great together.
Brian
#16584

 >I am curious about the '83's and the colors of their interiors. Does 
anyone
>know when the company started using gray and black? Which color was
>predominant? I have seen the pics in the vault of the '83 with the black
>seats. Did any come with gray seats, black middle console, black dash &
>binnacle, gray/black door inserts or any other combinations? Are there are
>any owners that can post pics or comment on this subject?
>Thanks,
>Joshua Schwartz


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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:24:11 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman_at_dml_indexdesign.com>
Subject: "Clunk" in turns

Dear List,
    Okay, I've got one I haven't had before...While driving my DeLorean
for the past couple of weeks, It has been making a single "clunking"
noise when I make turns. (left or right doesn't seem to make a
difference)  It feels like something is slipping up front when it
occurs.
    I had a rebuilt steering rack installed by Dave Bauerle about a year
ago, but otherwise the front suspension hasn't been touched in awhile.
Could this be a symptom of bad shocks or is it something else?
    Most importantly, is this car safe to drive until I can get it
checked out?
        Thanks,
        Josh
        VIN 5102
        VIN 15964





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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:08:43 -0500
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Our first "long" trip

It's funny to hear someone referring to a 20-year-old car as being recently
"broken-in".  :-)    My only reservation about having such a low-miles car
would be it's treatment over the last 20 years:  Was it well maintained?
Have all of the Safety Notices been applied?

The Delorean is actually a very reliable car.  The large number of technical
discussions you see here are typical for any car this old.  I would take a
small amount of tools on any long trip, regardless of the car (extra fuses,
etc.).


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard S. Smith [mailto:TeacupFox_at_dml_aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:06 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Our first "long" trip
>
>
> We purchased our D last April with 348 original miles. We have the
> engine broken in and it seems to be running fine. We have not had any
> problems so far (knock on wood) and we now have 1,200 miles on the
> car. We are planning to attend the Richmond, Virginia British Car
> Show where the D is the marque. This is a four and half hour drive
> from where we live (I-95 at 65 mph most of the trip).  After reading
> the message board for some time I feel a little uneasy about the trip
> (should I have someone with a roll-back on call?) There always seems
> to be so many problems everyone talks about.  Am I worrying
> unnecessarily or are there some things we should address before
> making this trip. Any suggestions would be welcomed.  Just looking
> for a "comfort level".  Thanks. Just want to have a fun time and
> don't want to take a full complement of tools in lieu of clothes.
>
>
>
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>
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:41:07 -0500
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN Egroups website down


Dave




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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:09:57 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: VIN Check digits

After posting the message below, I sat with Excel for 15 minutes or 
so and came up with a crude template that performs this function. I 
still would prefer to see a web-based solution just so that it can be 
made available to more people.

I've only run a few VINs through it, but it seems to work correctly. 
Try it yourself and let me know.

http://www.egroups.com/files/usadmc/checkdigit.xls

Why would you want to calculate a check digit, you ask? I needed a 
complete, valid VIN number to check the title history of a DeLorean 
at http://www.carfax.com, and all the seller knew was the last five 
digits of the VIN. By using the formula provided by Rob Lamrock, I 
was able to calculate the check digit and get the VIN report I needed.

Comments, questions welcome.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

At 8:19 AM -0600 9/13/00, James Espey wrote:
>Is there someone out there in DML-land that can create 'something 
>that can calculate a check digit? I'd prefer something in Excel, or 
>a web-based solution so that it could be used on any operating 
>system.
>
>Email me privately if you have an interest and the ability to try this.
>
>James



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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:09:18 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re:"long" trip tool kit

In a message dated 9/12/00 9:16:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net writes:

<< I usually pack a 10mm and 15 mm  wrench, pliers, screw drivers, duct tape, 
flashlite, and road flares.  Fortuately I've never needed any of them. >>


Been wondering about that myself.  Anybody else have any tool or gear 
additions to suggest?  Aside from a trash bag for your tire, if flat?

-Wayne
11174



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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:18:00 -0500
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO ENGINE

James, this is no fair.  By next summer there will be several DMC's around
with the High Output engine, and then I'll have to use actual driving skill
to compete.  I was trying to stay ahead of the Joneses.  Can't I have the
new engine AND a turbo?  :-)

The track will be fun!  Are you bringing your DMC4WD for a tractor-pull?


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:wingd2_at_dml_aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:38 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] Re: COMPARISON OF NEW DMC ENGINE TO SINGLE TURBO
> ENGINE
>
>
> James,
>
>    Set it up and we'll give it a go !  Looser buys the beer, right   :-)
>



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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:13:16 -0500
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Stiff clutch

I think it's all relative.  My left leg is 20% larger than my right from all
those clutch exercises I get to do in the DMC, but maybe Stian's clutch was
REALLY bad before the work was done.  I used to think my passenger door was
difficult to close, but I replaced the driver's side strut with a new one
that has MUCH more lift, and now that other door seems light as a feather.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 5:41 PM
> Subject: [DML] Stiff clutch
>
>
> In a message dated 9/12/00 4:21:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:
>
> << The old clutch pedal was hard as kicking a brick wall!  >>
>
> Interesting.  I put in a new ss clutch line, master cylinder and slave,
and
> the pedal is still pretty stiff.  It's the only manual transmission car I
> drive, so I have nothing to compare it to, though a friend drove it and
said
> it was brutal....




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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:27:34 -0400
From: "Michael C. Babb, MCSE, MCT, MCP-I, CNA" <michael_at_dml_babbtechnology.com>
Subject: DeLorean Store Now Open

Hey All!

just an FYI, I have set up a DeLorean store at www.cafepress.com/dmc12 to
help support and keep my website up. (Mugs, mouse pads, and t-shirts)
 Please check it out and let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Michael Babb
michael_at_dml_babbtechnology.com




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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:04:46 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Stiff clutch

Since we are on the subject of clutches, I have a question for 
everyone. Instead of installing a SS braided clutch line for the 
entire length of the car, couldn't you run a length of steel tubing 
(same tubing used for the brakes) along the chassis? At the ends of 
the steel tube would be short SS Braided (custom ones at least) lines 
going to the master and slave cylinders. It would make alot more 
sense in doing this. You would practically eliminate any expansion on 
the clucthline and would be alot more reliable. If I am wrong, please 
correct me and explain to me why? I am thinking of doing this since 
you can buy tubing at any autoparts store and flare the ends with any 
type of connectors on them. I also know a place that will custom make 
any hydraulic hose you want at any length with any type of connectors 
on them.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, deloreanernst_at_dml_a... wrote:
> In a message dated 9/12/00 4:21:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> dmc_norway_at_dml_h... writes:
> 
> << The old clutch pedal was hard as kicking a brick wall!  >>
> 
> Interesting.  



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