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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. automatic trans swap with manual trans
From: nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us

2. Re: Stiff clutch
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

3. 'D' for sale in West Michigan
From: "Sean Mullally" <sean333_at_dml_email.com>

4. Paging JERRY RHINE of Ohio
From: "Uncleump" <uncleump_at_dml_earthlink.net>

5. Re: "Clunk" in turns
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

6. Re: VIN Check digits
From: "ECP DMC12 " <delorean_at_dml_cieng.com>

7. Re: automatic trans swap with manual trans
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

8. Re: Stiff clutch
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>

9. Re: Re: Stiff clutch
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

10. Re: automatic trans swap with manual trans
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

11. Width with open doors
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

12. Re: automatic trans swap with manual trans
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>

13. Emissions Reading - Comments?
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

14. Re: Re:"long" trip tool kit
From: milestwo_at_dml_aol.com

15. Re: "Clunk" in turns
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

16. Re: automatic trans swap to manual trans. swap,it can be done
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com

17. Stiff Steering
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

18. Hong Kong Owner?
From: Kevin & Ann Miller <kamiller_at_dml_gci.net>

19. Re: Width with open doors
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

20. Re: SS braided clutch line
From: <Klaus-Peter.Steiner_at_dml_energie.rwe.de>

21. Re: "Clunk" in turns
From: "Mike Thomas" <comptrol_at_dml_ici.net>

22. No Air Conditioner
From: "Dale Schaub" <daleschaub_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

23. Re: SS braided clutch line
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

24. Re: "Clunk" in turns
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman_at_dml_indexdesign.com>

25. Re: Mystery Wires
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:48:35 -0000
From: nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us
Subject: automatic trans swap with manual trans

De Lorean guru's,
 
I am looking at a 81' DMC-12 Automatic.  I was wondering if anyone 
thinks the automatics are less reliable? I also was wondering if 
anyone knows if a trans. swap is possible? I am looking for a manual 
but I would get the automatic if I thought I could swap it out
if/when 
the automatic failed.  Thanks!
 
-Nathan Skalsky






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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:04:46 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Stiff clutch

Since we are on the subject of clutches, I have a question for 
everyone. Instead of installing a SS braided clutch line for the 
entire length of the car, couldn't you run a length of steel tubing 
(same tubing used for the brakes) along the chassis? At the ends of 
the steel tube would be short SS Braided (custom ones at least) lines 
going to the master and slave cylinders. It would make alot more 
sense in doing this. You would practically eliminate any expansion on 
the clucthline and would be alot more reliable. If I am wrong, please 
correct me and explain to me why? I am thinking of doing this since 
you can buy tubing at any autoparts store and flare the ends with any 
type of connectors on them. I also know a place that will custom make 
any hydraulic hose you want at any length with any type of connectors 
on them.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, deloreanernst_at_dml_a... wrote:
> In a message dated 9/12/00 4:21:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> dmc_norway_at_dml_h... writes:
> 
> << The old clutch pedal was hard as kicking a brick wall!  >>
> 
> Interesting.  



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:27:55 -0000
From: "Sean Mullally" <sean333_at_dml_email.com>
Subject: 'D' for sale in West Michigan

Good condition, automatic '81.

See website for more details:
      http://www.msu.edu/~mullally/dmc4sale/

-Sean





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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:39:46 -0400
From: "Uncleump" <uncleump_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Paging JERRY RHINE of Ohio




Would Jerry Rhine of Ohio please email me privately.  Thanks!  I've been
trying to contact you and the phone number I have is no longer valid.

Matt




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:48:59 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: "Clunk" in turns

Off hand I can think of 2 problems that you may be having. Check out 
the following link and see if the symptoms described match yours.

http://labwww.csv.cmich.edu/luke/auto/delorean/repair/rearclunk.html

Something else to check is this: If you turn either right or left 2 
or more times in a row, does the clunking continue? In other words, 
if you turn left you hear a clunk. But if you turn left again do you 
still hear anything? If not, it could just be that it's the half-
shafts sliding back and forth. Some quick lube could solve the 
problem.

But if your absolutely positive that the noise is comming from up 
front, you may want to check if something is loose inside of the jack 
stowage compartment to make sure that nothing is loose and sliding 
around.

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Josh Haldeman <haldeman_at_dml_i...> wrote:
> Dear List,
>     Okay, I've got one I haven't had before...While driving my 
DeLorean
> for the past couple of weeks, It has been making a single "clunking"
> noise when I make turns. (left or right doesn't seem to make a
> difference)  It feels like something is slipping up front when it
> occurs.
>     I had a rebuilt steering rack installed by Dave Bauerle about a 
year
> ago, but otherwise the front suspension hasn't been touched in 
awhile.
> Could this be a symptom of bad shocks or is it something else?
>     Most importantly, is this car safe to drive until I can get it
> checked out?
>         Thanks,
>         Josh
>         VIN 5102
>         VIN 15964




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:13:26 -0400
From: "ECP DMC12 " <delorean_at_dml_cieng.com>
Subject: Re: VIN Check digits

I just completed check digit routing in Javascript that can be run in a browser.  I have sent the code to James so that he can use it any way he wishes.  I have 
also put a copy on my website incase it takes James a while to put it up on USADMC's website.

Here is the link:
http://www.ericpullen.com/checkdigit.html

Thanks,

Eric Pullen
delorean_at_dml_cieng.com


On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:09:57 -0600, James Espey wrote:

>After posting the message below, I sat with Excel for 15 minutes or 
>so and came up with a crude template that performs this function. I 
>still would prefer to see a web-based solution just so that it can be 
>made available to more people.
>
>I've only run a few VINs through it, but it seems to work correctly. 
>Try it yourself and let me know.
>
>http://www.egroups.com/files/usadmc/checkdigit.xls
>






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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:26:31 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: automatic trans swap with manual trans

You probably already have had several people tell you this, but I understand
that the frames are different on manual vs. automatic.  I know a guy in town
that is selling his automatic so that he can buy a manual.  He considered
having it changed over but concluded that it would be too expensive.  I
think it would involve taking the body off of the frame.

I have an automatic transmission myself and prefer it.  I'm good at using
manuals, but not while holding a cell phone.  (Yes, I know... bad bad!)

I strongly recommend test driving one first to see how you like it.  I don't
know if you have ever driven a Delorean before, but the steering on them is
VERY stiff.  My first day of owning one I swore that I would hook up power
steering to it.  Well, now I'm more used to the stiff wheel and don't know
if I will ever get around to figuring out how to add power assist.  It would
be very hard to do.  Other guys have considered it, but I've never heard of
anyone trying.

Also, with such stiff steering, it sometimes takes both hands on the wheel
while navigating parking lots or while moving slow to turn corners.  I think
I would have problems moving the wheel with one hand while shifting with the
other.  I've had other people test drive my car, and they agree the steering
is stiff, but not beyond reason.  I guess I'm just a wimpy guy.

But if it's performance you want, then by all means get a manual
transmission.  The engines in Deloreans are wimpy anyway.  A manual
transmission will help you get the most out of it -- especially if you ever
add a turbo-charger, since turbo-chargers aren't as effective with automatic
transmissions.

The transmission I am waiting for is one that is BOTH automatic and manual.
So that when I want my hands free, all I have to do is shift it over to
'automatic' and forget about it.  Anyone know of one of those around?

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:57:26 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Re: Stiff clutch

I had something like that on my Delorean and it made it shift 
horribly.  It was done to it in the early 80's and when I took it off 
the pipe was kinked and bent to the point the fluid couldn't flow 
easily and my shifting suffered.  IMHO go with the Stainless steel 
line.  I have it on right now and it is great

Erik Geerdink

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_o...> wrote:
> Since we are on the subject of clutches, I have a question for 
> everyone. Instead of installing a SS braided clutch line for the 
> entire length of the car, couldn't you run a length of steel tubing 
> (same tubing used for the brakes) along the chassis



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:45:18 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Stiff clutch

Steve,

This is not a new idea, prior to the introduction of the braided line we used steel tubing to replace the plastic line. The stainless steel replacement is superior to the steel line for the following reasons. 

The stainless steel product is aircraft quality and is actually stronger than steel tubing. It has better resistance to crushing and bending than steel tubing and is much easier to install.

Don't let this information deter you; keep the creative juices flowing. 


"We're here to help you"

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Rubano 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:04 PM
  Subject: [DML] Re: Stiff clutch


  Since we are on the subject of clutches, I have a question for 
  everyone. Instead of installing a SS braided clutch line for the 
  entire length of the car, couldn't you run a length of steel tubing 
  (same tubing used for the brakes) along the chassis? 



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:55:27 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: automatic trans swap with manual trans

Nathan,

There are no interchangeable or crossover transmissions for the DeLorean. Converting an automatic to manual transmission is not practical due to the different frames, gear linkages, and electric's used by both.

Although the automatics require slightly more preventative maintenance than the manual both transmissions are extremely reliable and long lasting.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: nskalsky_at_dml_remc4.k12.mi.us 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:48 PM
  Subject: [DML] automatic trans swap with manual trans


  De Lorean guru's,
   
  I am looking at a 81' DMC-12 Automatic.  I was wondering if anyone 
  thinks the automatics are less reliable? I also was wondering if 
  anyone knows if a trans. swap is possible? 



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:19:37 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Width with open doors

Hello,

I am finally in the process of buying a "D", but I've run across a problem;
I need to know the width of the car with the doors open.
They "swing out" about 12 inches on opening, I know that (read it here!),
I know the open to a height over the mirrors of about 77 inches 
AND I know the mirrors AREN'T the widest point of the car with the doors closed.

But I need to know how wide a "D" is with its doors fully opened
(so with good struts installed)

Pleas let me know by private email on 
jan_at_dml_vdwouw.demon.nl <jan at vdwouw dot demon dot nl>

Thanks in advance,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Allmost living the Dream...   Soon to be driving a DeLorean...

check out the Delorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
------------------------------



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:22:28 -0400
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_charter.net>
Subject: Re: automatic trans swap with manual trans


Nathan-


As far as the reliability of the auto's, I can say this.  I have had mine
for 4500 miles and the only trans problems I've had is the computer
governor.  This is the fail on all the autos.  As for a swap, because of the
shape of the frame, a swap is impossible.


Scott




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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:55:21 GMT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Emissions Reading - Comments?

Hello folks,

My DeLorean was tested here the other day for emissions readings. I'm happy 
to say that it passed with flying colors :) No problems!

Norway has quite strict emissions regulations yet apparantly this poses no 
threat to the DeLorean! If it had failed I could be faced with a possible 
de-registration... :(

In fact, the attendant was surprised of the DeLorean readings since after 
all its a 1981 car, almost 20 years old. He simply said it was amazing that 
a car this "old" could show these results. It could have been a new 2000 car 
with readings like this.

Guess the DeLorean was WAY AHEAD OF ITS TIME!

The attendant was very impressed by the car, not only the design, stainless 
steel and gullwing doors to which we are all so familiar with, but the fact 
that its quite environmental-friendly.

(Well, not exactly the 2.8i PRV-engine, but the emissions testing was 
impressive he said).

Anyway, I wanted to post my emission testing results and would like to have 
some comments from you people on the DML if my results vary a lot from 
yours. Please e-mail me privately as not to take up listspace with "Me too" 
postings.

Here goes...

PEtr
1/min	----------------0
% vol CO -----------0.012
% vol CO2 ----------15.62
% vol O2 ------------0.39
ppm vol HC ------------15
Lambda -------------1.016
% vol COvrai -------0.012

How does this compare with your latest readings?

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:00:15 EDT
From: milestwo_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re:"long" trip tool kit

Wayne--
An extra set of belts would be a must, kind of like an insurance policy with 
you, they can even be an old set but enough to get you to town, I have done 
this with every car I have owned and never used them yet (knock on wood). 
Just my ideas.
Lloyd----#3502



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:21:44 -0700
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: "Clunk" in turns

Dear Josh,

It's been a while but I had a similar problem once with my Lotus Europa
(which is the same basic construction) and it was the body shifting on the
frame.  It was not dangerous but getting it tightened down was a wonderful
improvement.

Regards,
Don, s/n: 1325, 6543, 5014 +
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Haldeman" <haldeman_at_dml_indexdesign.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: [DML] "Clunk" in turns


> Dear List,
>     Okay, I've got one I haven't had before...While driving my DeLorean
> for the past couple of weeks, It has been making a single "clunking"
> noise when I make turns. (left or right doesn't seem to make a
> difference)  It feels like something is slipping up front when it
> occurs.
>     I had a rebuilt 



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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 02:04:30 -0000
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com
Subject: Re: automatic trans swap to manual trans. swap,it can be done

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, nskalsky_at_dml_r... wrote:
> De Lorean guru's,
>  
> I am looking at a 81' DMC-12 Automatic.  I was wondering if anyone 
> thinks the automatics are less reliable? I also was wondering if 
> anyone knows if a trans. swap is possible? I am looking for a 
manual 
> but I would get the automatic if I thought I could swap it out
> if/when 
> the automatic failed.  Thanks!
>  
> -Nathan Skalsky

I HAVE done a automatic to standard frame swap(use a automatic frame 
to a standard car,and I found the only major difference is trying to 
bolt up the standard shift shifter,to where the automatic used to be.
At the time I was working at a major jet engine manufacturing Co,as a 
machinist,and I made a prototype adapter to be able to bolt up a 
standard shifter on a automatic frame (I was doing this on my own 
time)I made it out of some very exotic metals,so it definely was a 
one of a kind,but it can be made out of less expensive materials,when 
I bolted it up it worked as if it always belonged there,also if you 
look at some of the VERY early photos of the Delorean frame it was 
John Z's intention to make the frames universal,that is to have a 
bolted on shifter plate somewhat like the one I came up with,so that 
it did not matter which frame was used,my problem was at the time 
that I did the swap,there was nowhere to turn to, to tell me the 
differances between the frames,so I bought a perfect frame at the time
(1988)to install on a car with a damaged frame,by the time I relized 
the difference,I had the frame off the good car,and then,that is when 
I came up with a adapter.

Claude
000570  




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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 01:59:43 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Stiff Steering

Walter,

If you have a stiff steering rack you have a problem. The DeLorean steering can be described as firm but not stiff. With the exception of parking the DeLorean steering is not in need of any type of power assist. Strangely enough tires have a big effect on steering stiffness. What tires do you have on your DeLorean?

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Walter 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [DML] automatic trans swap with manual trans


  I don't
  know if you have ever driven a Delorean before, but the steering on them is
  VERY stiff.  My first day of owning one I swore that I would hook up power
  steering to it.  Well, now I'm more used to the stiff wheel and don't know
  if I will ever get around to figuring out how to add power assist.  It would
  be very hard to do.  Other guys have considered it, but I've never heard of
  anyone trying.

  Also, with such stiff steering, it sometimes takes both hands on the wheel
  while navigating parking lots or while moving slow to turn corners.  I think
  I would have problems moving the wheel with one hand while shifting with the
  other.  I've had other people test drive my car, and they agree the steering
  is stiff, but not beyond reason.  I guess I'm just a wimpy guy.

  The transmission I am waiting for is one that is BOTH automatic and manual.
  So that when I want my hands free, all I have to do is shift it over to
  'automatic' and forget about it.  Anyone know of one of those around?

  Walt    Tampa, FL






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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:43:08 -0800
From: Kevin & Ann Miller <kamiller_at_dml_gci.net>
Subject: Hong Kong Owner?

Sorry for using the list this way, but I am trying to locate the owner
who lives in Hong Kong. I had his email address but misplace it.
 If you are reading this please email me privately, I will be in your
town this weekend and would like to together and talk about deloreans.

   Kevin Miller
   vin 4556




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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 02:22:41 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Width with open doors

The maximum with of the DeLorean is when the doors are partially open; i.e.: 14 inches for each door plus the overall with of the body, which is 73.10 inches. Therefore the maximum total with is 101.10 inches. 

With the doors fully open the doors only extend 5 inches from the body bringing the maximum with to 93.10 inches. 

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jan van de Wouw 
  To: DMC-News 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:19 PM
  Subject: [DML] Width with open doors


  Hello,

  I am finally in the process of buying a "D", but I've run across a problem;
  I need to know the width of the car with the doors open.
  They "swing out" about 12 inches on opening, I know that (read it here!),
  I know the open to a height over the mirrors of about 77 inches 
  AND I know the mirrors AREN'T the widest point of the car with the doors closed.

  But I need to know how wide a "D" is with its doors fully opened
  (so with good struts installed)

  Pleas let me know by private email on 
  jan_at_dml_vdwouw.demon.nl <jan at vdwouw dot demon dot nl>

  Thanks in advance,

  JAN van de Wouw
  Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
  Allmost living the Dream...   Soon to be driving a DeLorean...




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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:36:13 +0200
From: <Klaus-Peter.Steiner_at_dml_energie.rwe.de>
Subject: Re: SS braided clutch line

Thats exactly the modification on my car. 
The former (unknown) owner made a new clutch line from steel brake tubes and
it works perfectly!

Klaus
VIN5980 -Germany-

> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, srubano_at_dml_o... wrote:
> 
Since we are on the subject of clutches, I have a question for 
everyone. Instead of installing a SS braided clutch line for the 
entire length of the car, couldn't you run a length of steel tubing 
(same tubing used for the brakes) along the chassis? At the ends of 
the steel tube would be short SS Braided (custom ones at least) lines 
going to the master and slave cylinders. It would make alot more 
sense in doing this. You would practically eliminate any expansion on 
the clucthline and would be alot more reliable. If I am wrong, please 
correct me and explain to me why? I am thinking of doing this since 
you can buy tubing at any autoparts store and flare the ends with any 
type of connectors on them. I also know a place that will custom make 
any hydraulic hose you want at any length with any type of connectors 
on them.




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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:31:10 -0700
From: "Mike Thomas" <comptrol_at_dml_ici.net>
Subject: Re: "Clunk" in turns

Josh, 

Are you sure the shifting is not in back?  I think I would check my trailing arm bolts.  I had one fail on the highway and believe you me it ain't pretty.

Mike



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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:45:11 -0700
From: "Dale Schaub" <daleschaub_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: No Air Conditioner

My air conditioner just quit working. The pressure is the same at both the
low pressure side and high pressure side at 92 psi. I do not hear the A/C
cycling as I normally did. Any ideas?

Dale Schaub




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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:50:36 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: SS braided clutch line

I've seen this done, my only worry would be that the motion/vibration 
of the engine/transmission allowed by the rubber mounts would 
eventually fatigue the hard line. The original idea of flexible 
fittings, at least at the end at the transmission, would be an 
excellent idea. 

Dave Swingle

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, <Klaus-Peter.Steiner_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> Thats exactly the modification on my car. 
> The former (unknown) owner made a new clutch line from steel brake 
tubes and
> it works perfectly!
> 
> Klaus
> VIN5980 -Germany-
> 
> > --- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, srubano_at_dml_o... wrote:
> > 
> Since we are on the subject of clutches, I have a question for 
> everyone. Instead of installing a SS braided clutch line for the 
> entire length of the car, couldn't you run a length of steel tubing 
> (same tubing used for the brakes) along the chassis? 




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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:12:21 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman_at_dml_indexdesign.com>
Subject: Re: "Clunk" in turns

Mike,
    I'm fairly sure it's coming from the front.  The noise eminates from the right front wheel when I turn left, and the left when I turn right.  I doubt it
would be the trailing arm bolts because I have Bauerle's add on for that problem and I had him check the condition of the bolts last time I took it in.
(about a year ago)  I will check them out again though, just to be safe.
    I think Stian may be correct in suspecting the half shafts because it does not make the clunking noise on the second turn if I make two consecutive lefts
or two consecutive rights.
    Well, either way I'll have the front end apart this weekend to install new shocks, so I'll check it all out then and let you know.
        Thanks for everyone's help with this problem,
        Josh



Mike Thomas wrote:

> Josh,
>
> Are you sure the shifting is not in back?  I think I would check my trailing arm bolts.  I had one fail on the highway and believe you me it ain't pretty.
>
> Mike




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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:33:18 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Mystery Wires

Jim,

If the blue/yellow and white wire are in the factory installed wire harness it is part of the coil primary wiring circuit. The solid blue is an added wire.
 
The brown wire with the connector in the electrical compartment is the feed wire for the door lock module. If you have the factory installed lock module it would be best to leave this wire disconnected until you install a Lockzilla <http://store.yahoo.com/dsvstore/lockzilla.html>.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Strickland 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 3:31 PM
  Subject: [DML] Mystery Wires


  I have some mystery wires in my engine compartment, thought someone might be
  able to tell me what they are....

  By the water overflow tank/alternator, I have a WHITE wire and a
  turquoise/yellow (blue/yellow, maybe?) The blue/yellow wire is either tapped
  or is a double wire, which is connected at a 3-way joint to a blue wire-
  it's definitely a hack job.

  Inside the relay compartment, there is a thick brown wire with a
  connector



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