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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 225

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Part 2 flat tires - warning and question
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com

2. Re: Brake Problem
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

3. Re: Transmission/Clutch
From: jdsjlv_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: flat tires - warning and question
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com

5. Cooling fan motor inerchange
From: nbrommer_at_dml_krem.com

6. Re: Brake Problem
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com

7. De Lorean animation added to my web page...(worth seeing :)
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

8. WANTED: DMC-12 ASAP
From: "Ace Underhill" <luuke_at_dml_primenet.com>

9. Re: Model Year
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:30:20 -0000
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com
Subject: Re: Part 2 flat tires - warning and question

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, heskin_at_dml_b... wrote:
> > You should never have a DeLorean towed; standard towing could 
damage 
> >fascia's and adjoining panels and fenders. Always specify a 
flatbed !
> 
> Joe, 
> 
>   What about the tow trucks that only lift the car by "scoops" or 
bars 
> under the front wheels?  They then tie hold down straps around the 
> wheels/tires to the scoops.  No body parts are even touched.  
> 
> Also, can towing this way do any damage to the trans-axle?
> 
> -Hank

DAMAGE CAN be done,to a Automatic tranny cars,if it is towed by the 
front wheels(front of the car) ,because if the rear wheels are 
spinning at speed without the engine running,what is happening is 
that the automatic tranny is spinning(operating) without any pressure 
from the tranny oil pump(it only operates when/and by the engine 
running)so that you are operating a unlubricated tranny without any 
hydraulic pressure and could possibly do some serious automatic 
tranismission Damage.So the number one rule if you are going to tow a 
Delorean is to Tow from the rear of the car ONLY,if it is a AUTOMATIC 
car,Only cars with a front and rear pump can be towed with the 
automatic tranny at speed with out the engine running.

Claude
000570  




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:52:05 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Brake Problem

The rubber hoses to the calipers tend to expand when they get heated 
up. Usually consistant stop and go driving will do this. That is one 
of the conditions that will cause "squishy" brakes. Also the reason 
why it got firm again after waiting is becaused they cooled down to 
the point where they wouldn't expand due to the heat. To totally 
eliminate this in the future, replace them with stainless steel 
braided hoses. I remember seeing them for sale on one of the Delorean 
sites, I don't remember where. Maybe one of the other DMLers will 
know.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Lowery, Dennis [C]" <loweryd_at_dml_n...> wrote:
> 
> Hello List, My Girlfriend and I were driving around this weekend 
looking at
> houses in several different neighborhoods.  After spending a half 
hour or
> hour stopping and going, on the brakes off the brakes etc. the 
brake peddle
> was starting to get "squishy"...it would almost touch the floor.  
Before the
> trip I had a good firm peddle.  After waiting for just a couple of 
minutes
> the firm peddle would come back, but after some more stop and go it 
would
> get squishy again.  My first thought is that there may be moisture 
in the
> system that is either getting hot or "boiling" causing this 
condition.  Any
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dennis Lowery
> Vin.  4797
> Oct 81
> 
> P.S. I'm going the Richmond VA British car show this weekend.  I'm 
Leaving
> Saturday morning From my home in Woodbridge VA ( about 20 miles 
south of
> Washington D.C. on the I-95 corridor) If anyone would like to 
caravan.  Or
> maybe  I could meet up with an existing caravan.  Please let me 
know at my
> NEW e-mail address Ratfink_at_dml_d...  <~~~Pretty cool huh?




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:52:43 EDT
From: jdsjlv_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Transmission/Clutch

List,
When I first start my car and let off the clutch in first gear, I get a 
rumble from the transmission/cluctch area. Could this be related to the throw 
out bearing? It seems as if the gear and clutch "don't catch, then catch" 
repeatedly. It lessens as I get going. When fully warmed up, it smoothes 
out...Or, do I have a more serious problem, like the transmission?

Joshua Schwartz
Trumbull, CT
001292



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:55:36 -0000
From: cbl302_at_dml_msn.com
Subject: Re: flat tires - warning and question

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Daniel P. Saulnier" <dps_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> 3)  AAA is a wonderful service, and if you ask, they will send a 
flatbed.
>  
> Dan.
> VIN:05804

Around my area (connecticut)they(AAA) only allow three breakdowns
(towings) per year, after that they charge you for the towing!!I 
would recommend Sears Allstate towing club,as they allow unlimited 
towings.And have many more perks.

Claude
000570





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 02:17:09 -0000
From: nbrommer_at_dml_krem.com
Subject: Cooling fan motor inerchange

My D is at the mechanic, and has been diagnosed with a failed cooling 
fan motor. Does anyone know of an inexpensive intechange for this 
part?

Nick
VIN 3092




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:39:00 EDT
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Brake Problem

I recently experienced the exact same symptoms.  They are not uncommon and 
usually mean the master cylinder is failing.  I would replace it before it 
gives out completely at the wrong time.  I replaced mine with one from PJ 
Grady.  Works fantastic and is adjustable for desired pedal height.

Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
VIN 3360

<< Hello List, My Girlfriend and I were driving around this weekend looking at
 houses in several different neighborhoods.  After spending a half hour or
 hour stopping and going, on the brakes off the brakes etc. the brake peddle
 was starting to get "squishy"...it would almost touch the floor.  Before the
 trip I had a good firm peddle.  After waiting for just a couple of minutes
 the firm peddle would come back, but after some more stop and go it would
 get squishy again.  My first thought is that there may be moisture in the
 system that is either getting hot or "boiling" causing this condition.  Any
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Dennis Lowery
 Vin.  4797
 Oct 81
 
 P.S. I'm going the Richmond VA British car show this weekend.  I'm Leaving
 Saturday morning From my home in Woodbridge VA ( about 20 miles south of
 Washington D.C. on the I-95 corridor) If anyone would like to caravan.  Or
 maybe  I could meet up with an existing caravan.  Please let me know at my
 NEW e-mail address Ratfink_at_dml_delorean.com  <~~~Pretty cool huh? >>



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:04:30 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: De Lorean animation added to my web page...(worth seeing :)

Hey List,

     Tonight I guess you could say I was bored, so I spent a couple hours 
(yes hours) and created this De Lorean related animation.  Before you go onto 
my web page, please imagine the AOL sign on screen and the De Lorean, put 
them together then go on my web page.  So please take another few minutes and 
check it out.  Please remember that its sorta a big image so it will take 
some extra time to load, but after it loads it will repeat so you won't miss 
it.  Everyone I showed it to, loved it, so please if you like it, send me an 
e-mail and let me know.  Thanks again.

web page----->   http://members.aol.com/njp548

Later,
Nick
1852



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:19:59 -0500
From: "Ace Underhill" <luuke_at_dml_primenet.com>
Subject: WANTED: DMC-12 ASAP

WANTED:
81 preferred, not necessary, (would really like hood lines, would like gas flap if possible).
BLACK interior.
5-Speed only.
A working Engine or any Engine for that matter is NOT necessary.
Must NOT have SERIOUS mechanical problems.
Cosmetic problems OK.
Frame must be good.
SS must be good / or easily repairable.
Would like it to be in the States/Canada ready for shipment to DMC Houston.

Please email VIN, mileage, and details to me directly at aceu_at_dml_brilliantscreen.com (Not the list).

           -Ace Underhill-
Brilliant Screen Entertainment


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:38:55 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Model Year

In a message dated 9/19/00 6:18:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ratfink_at_dml_erols.com writes:

<< I told him it was an 81.  He
 must 
 have see the door sill plate and the manufacture date of Oct 81, and 
 said it should be an 82.  He said that anything after Sept was 
 considered an 82.  Anybody have any insight?  >>

You didn't mention your vin.  If the last 5 digits are 10000 or higher it's 
an '82.  I forget the month DeLorerans "rolled over" into the new "model 
year," such as it was.  And Oct '81 wouldn't be an '83.  See your auto 
registration. It should be correct.

-Wayne
vin 11174
(Feb. '82 build... definitely an '82!)  



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