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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 228

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Ducy to Motorola swap in an '82
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

2. Re: WARNING! ALL DML'ers READ!
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

3. Re: Seats
From: sharkywtrs_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Dakota Digital Dash
From: Dave Kaplan <dkaplan_at_dml_steffeninc.com>

5. Re: Seats
From: "J. Ben Boatright" <tahoe98_at_dml_mindspring.com>

6. Re: Hazard Lights
From: "J. Ben Boatright" <tahoe98_at_dml_mindspring.com>

7. RE: ADMIN:Poll result/DMC2
From: "David B. Hill" <dhill_at_dml_hillresearch.com>

8. Re: VIRUS WARNING!!! do NOT open MIMS ATTACHMENT!!!!!
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

9. I got those angle drive blues, or do I?
From: ultra_at_dml_isd.net

10. Re: Re: flat tires - warning and question
From: "doctor who" <ohwrd_at_dml_hotmail.com>

11. Virus update (how to find and remove)
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

12. Phoenix AZ
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: ADMIN:Poll result/DMC2
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

14. DeLorean Dakota Digital Dash
From: "Matthew P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>

15. Re: Digital Dashboard
From: Jonathan Miller <betaray_at_dml_kludge.org>

16. Re: Ducy to Motorola swap in an '82
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

17. Struts
From: DBJCFAM_at_dml_aol.com

18. Digital Dashboard - Delorean had a prototype
From: heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net

19. Front cooling fans...
From: "Nathan E. Green" <gzen21_at_dml_excite.com>

20. CD Changer
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>

21. Virginia Show this weekend
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_ig2.net>

22. Re: Seats
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

23. Re:Was Brake Problem now- WARNING!-
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

24. RE: Re: flat tires - warning and question
From: "Mike & Ann Griese" <roscsyl_at_dml_millcomm.com>

25. Dakota digital dash prices
From: "Matthew P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:12:23 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Ducy to Motorola swap in an '82

Wayne,

You will have to replace the electrical connector plug.  The Ducellier uses
a connector all it's own.  When you are done, you should have one wire left
over with no place to connect it to the Motorola alternator because it is
internally excited.  On the Ducellier plug there are two wires:  a brown
with a yellow trace and a heavier all brown wire.  The brown with the yellow
trace connects to 'L'.  The heavier brown wire should be taped off and not
used.

And if all this blows up in your face, don't blame me :)

It is my experience that all alternators in the Delorean use the same belt.
Here are some cross-reference numbers that you may want to try for the belt:

Dynaflex 15495
Gates 7495
Nationwise 49013

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:44:41 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: WARNING! ALL DML'ers READ!

I just recieved the virus as well, but thanks to the warnings put out 
by fellow DMLer's I didn't open them. I'm attempting to trace the 
messages, and it looks as though they originated from someplace in 
Texas. As I find out more I keep everyone posted, but in the mean 
time I'll attempt to contact the ISP that the messages were sent thru.

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_o...> wrote:
> I just recieved an email from a Bobby D. Mims. It stated that it 
was 
> an auto reply from MSN.COM when indeed it came from TYLER.COM. It 
had 
> an attachment called Fun.Exe. THIS FILE IS A WORM VIRUS! Delete 
this 
> email if you recieve it. I got it as a response to my posting to 
the 
> brake problem posting on the DML.




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:23:00 EDT
From: sharkywtrs_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Seats

I have the same problem with mine, although mine aren't done in cloth.  So 
far, haven't noticed the problem in the passenger seat, and it's used almost 
as much.  Every 2 or 3 days I find it popped off, and have to stick it back 
in.  I'd love to hear a response on this one.


Scott



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:16:35 -0500
From: Dave Kaplan <dkaplan_at_dml_steffeninc.com>
Subject: Re: Dakota Digital Dash

For what it is worth, I live 50 miles from Dakota Digital. Do they need a 
car to look at or measure?

Dave
Sioux City, IA

At 11:08 PM 9/20/00, you wrote:
>Message: 6
>    Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:01:25 -0400
>    From: "Matthew P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>
>Subject: Re: Re: Digital Dashboard
>
>A few list members and I have been in contact with Dakota Digital.  They are
>willing to make us the dash in the same configuration.  They quoted me a
>price of $800 but said as more people were interested that it would go down.
>There is a list member who has graciously volunteered his spare dash for the
>90 day R&D.  Anyone interested in Dakota Digital DeLorean Dash please drop
>me a line.
>
>Matthew
>VIN #10365




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:27:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Ben Boatright" <tahoe98_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Seats

I have the same problem with my factory leather seats.  I
haven't found a perm. solution yet...

Ben Boatright 10115
--- wingd2_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> Robert,
> 
>    I'd take em back to the guy who did the work and make him
> fix them 
> correctly.
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/20/00 11:02:02 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net writes:
> 
> << A while back I had my seats re-upholstered in cloth
> w/factory 
>  stitching. The seats are alot more comfortable now, but I
> have a 
>  slight problem with the drivers side. If you push your back
> into the 
>  seat hard enough, the top portion of the panel on the back
> pops out. 
>  Passenger seat is fine. Any ideas? >>
> 
> 
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> 
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:31:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Ben Boatright" <tahoe98_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Hazard Lights

It should stay in.  You most likely are going to need another
switch (which can be obtained from DMC Houston).  I had a
similar problem with my headlight switch.  Replacing it fixed
the problem.

Ben Boatright
VIN 10115

--- BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> Now, we all know that I am not a DeLorean expert, and this
> question might 
> seem stupid. I was in my DeLorean, checking everything, and I
> noticed that my 
> hazard lights toggle/button does not "stick," so it can't stay
> on. I thought 
> that something must be wrong because many other cars have it
> so when you push 
> it, it stays on. But then again, the DeLorean is not like
> other cars. 
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> John Feldman
> VIN 4275
> 
> 
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:07:24 -0500
From: "David B. Hill" <dhill_at_dml_hillresearch.com>
Subject: RE: ADMIN:Poll result/DMC2

James & Dave:
How can you say the list is for discussion of "the man" and exclude any
discussion of the new car. Just because the car is speculative, that
shouldn't preclude discussion. You allow speculative discussion of many
other products, like accessories, motors, etc. I would say the discussion of
the Northstar fell into this "speculative" category, but that was
interesting and informative. Same for digital dashboard. As a long-time
reader, I think that if moderators are patient (instead of dictatorial), the
"stupid" postings (watches, etc) will decline, but still some new car
nuggets will be added to the list. I found the mentions of the GQ article,
for example, interesting to me as a DMC owner and list member, but evidently
you would not allow that posting. I am a Republican in politics, but a
little "d" democrat when it comes to free speech. Let's have a little of
that here. My practical suggestion would be for moderators to "moderate" the
watch discussion, but to allow the new car stuff to pass through their iron
fingers.
David Hill
VIN 5197

-----Original Message-----
From: James Espey [mailto:james_at_dml_usadmc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:58 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] ADMIN:Poll result/DMC2


Hear, hear!

As founder of the DML, moderator emeritus, and the original "Iron
Hand", I agree with Dave Swingle. The list was started for discussion
of the original car, company and man - not watches, or any new cars
JZD may claim to be producing. That's a perfect subject for some
energetic person to do with a DIFFERENT Egroups list.

James Espey
Moderator Emeritus
DMC-News, the DeLorean Mailing List

At 10:27 PM -0500 9/19/00, Dave Swingle wrote:
>So far that's about all there is to know, again until something of
substance
>comes along let's keep the list to the facts - and the cars. . So - Short
>answer - we'll limit postings on this topic to new information. If you
don't
>like this, feel free to start another list.
>
>Dave - getting better at this "Iron Hand" thing. . . . .


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:20:46 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING!!! do NOT open MIMS ATTACHMENT!!!!!

I deleted the Virus before I could see what time of WORM virus it 
was. By knowing this I could find out exactly what it does and tell 
you how to find if you've been infected and if so how to clean it up. 
If you have Norton Antivirus it should pick it right up with updated 
virus definitions. If anyone out there is running their PC without an 
antivirus program...BIG MISTAKE. I would suggest to get Norton 
Antivirus because I have seen viruses slip pass alot of other 
AntiVirus programs such as McAffe. Sorry for using the DML for this 
but I felt that is was appropriate since the virus propagated from 
someone here on the list.

>Snip<
How can you tell if my computer had/has been infected,I am running 
> windows 98 on a laptop,also I had something weird happen before I 
> deleted them,all my new email changed from the sender to the 
> reciever,Ex:instead of the header saying DMCnews egroups it said 
that 
> it came from my email to DMCnews egroups,all my new email was like 
> that,so I deleted everything.And came here to read the DML,and 
found 
> this virus alert.aLSO IF ANYBODY RECIEVES ANY EMAIL FROM ME 
> (CBL302_at_dml_M...)WITH A ATTACHMENT PLEASE DELETE IT,AS I AM AFRAID IT 
> MIGHT HAVE JUST TURNED AROUND AND USED MY EMAIL TO SEND ATTACHMENTS 
> TO OTHER USERS.THAT MIGHT BE WHY MY HEADERS WERE REVERSED.  
> 
> THANKS 
> CLAUDE
> 000570




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:14:09 GMT
From: ultra_at_dml_isd.net
Subject: I got those angle drive blues, or do I?

Week 4, problem 4.  Today when driving to work I noticed my speedometer had stopped
working.  Dang.  However, when I was making a run between buildings, I glanced
down and it was working!  I then came to a stop at a light, and when I started
moving again, it was dead again.  So when I left the building I went to, I noticed
the speedo needle drop a tad when reversing.  When I moved forward, the speedometer
worked fine.  So when I came to the first stop, I watched it, and when I started
moving again, it was dead again.  I dont know anything about the angle drive,
but this doesn't seem like anything is permanently broke, yet.  My theory is
that something tighens up when reversing, and has just enough strength left
for one forward motion.  If any of you guys know the angle drive well, could
you shed some light on this?  I would prefer not to folk out another $200 this
winter, so if I could repair it, that would definately be my best option.  Thanks.


Jim Reeve
#6960



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:29:06 GMT
From: "doctor who" <ohwrd_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: flat tires - warning and question

While we are on the subject of perks and auto clubs. I found out the AAA and 
some others will BRING you parts (if you are a member obviously). Ie belts, 
car batteries, spare tires etc....this is a little known facet of their 
advanced memberships. I had them bring me a battery after a friend who 
operates as a contractor alerted me to this.

ciao,
dr c.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Daniel P. Saulnier" <dps_at_dml_s...> wrote:
 > 3)  AAA is a wonderful service, and if you ask, they will send a
flatbed.
 >
 > Dan.
 > VIN:05804

Around my area (connecticut)they(AAA) only allow three breakdowns
(towings) per year, after that they charge you for the towing!!I
would recommend Sears Allstate towing club,as they allow unlimited
towings.And have many more perks.

Claude
000570







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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:37:23 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Virus update (how to find and remove)

Ok, One LAST post from me about this virus. If you think you have 
been infected with this virus, don't worry it does not destroy 
anything on your system. What it will do is every Weds between 12am 
and 2am it will display (or at least attempt to) an image of Hitler 
blowing his brains out with some text saying "Follow your leader". 

If you ran the file (not just open the email) then you should check 
the following:

In  Windows 95/98/NT Go to Start ->  Find -> Files or folders and 
type in the name INETD.EXE in the "Named" box. Make sure you have in 
the "Look In" box "Local Hardrives [C:]" (if you have more than one 
hard drive it will display [C:,D:,etc]) selected. By choosing Local 
Harddrives it will search all of your drives (if you have more than 
one). If the search finds this file, Highlight it in the window and 
DELETE IT by pressing the Delete key. 

Next thing to do. If you have Windows 95/98 go to Start -> Run and 
type in SYSEDIT in the "Open" box and click ok. A window will pop up 
with a bunch of other windows in it. Find and select the WIN.INI 
window. Once it's highlighted go to the top of the main window and 
click search then click find. In the "Find" box type INETD and click 
Next. If it finds the name INETD or INETD.EXE in any of the lines, 
JUST DELETE THE NAME. I don't know if it inserts itself into an 
important and needed line of the WIN.INI file so just delete the name 
INETD and leave the rest. Now press your F3 key to search for the 
name again in the same file. If it finds it again, do the same thing. 
If not it will come up with "Cannot find INETD" or "Finished 
searching".

If you have Windows NT than Email me and I will give you a complete 
description on how to search your registry to find it.

If any of you have any questions email me privateley and I will try 
and help you.

Sorry again for using the DML for this.

Steve Rubano
www.dmcman.homestead.com




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:51:17 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Phoenix AZ

Hi
I will be in Phoenix AZ on the 5th and 6th of October 
if there are any Delorean owners that want to get together please privately 
e-mail me back.   I will be there for both Thursday and Friday evening

hope to see you in Phoenix

Ken



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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:39:04 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: ADMIN:Poll result/DMC2

James Espey wrote:

> The list was started for discussion
> of the original car, company and
> man - not watches, or any new cars
> JZD may claim to be producing.

I am commenting, not as a member of the current moderation team, but as a long
time DML subscriber.

I like being in the know on the latest news about JZD's endeavors, even watches
and cars.  When someone has a *real* news story, even about new cars and watches,
I would be grateful to see it posted on the DML.  For example, if someone orders
a DMC2 watch and actually receives it, I would like to know about that.

However, I am not interested in rumors, speculation, or opinions about new cars
and watches.  Those things do belong in another message group, not on the DML.

Perhaps eGroups has a Jewelry forum?

- Mike Substelny




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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:53:35 -0400
From: "Matthew P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>
Subject: DeLorean Dakota Digital Dash

Folks,
        So far I have 16 people interested in a Dakota Digital dash for the
DeLorean.  Mark Hershey has graciously offered his DMC-12 dash for the 60-90
day R&D required by Dakota Digital.  They are willing to make one-offs which
include all 6 gauges mounted and ready to wire in at around $800.  They need
between 12 and 20 orders to consider this a "line" of Delorean digital
dashboards.  I've asked if they get that confirmation what the price will be
and I am waiting to hear back.  Here are some of the specifics:

The colors of the digits and bar graphs are either blue, green, or teal.
From the list I found out that the speedometer cable is 7/8".  This works
with Dakota's setup.  The speedometer still utilizes the cable which plugs
into a pulse generator for Dakota's digital speedometer.
The odometer can be factory preset so you can keep your existing mileage and
continue from there.
The tachometer can use existing wires and I have heard of people also wiring
it to one of the plug wires as well.
All the rest of the gauges should wire as normal.  The compatible fuel
senders work on the following ranges of empty to full: 10-180 ohms, 240-33
ohms, 0-30 ohms, 0-90 ohms, and 73-10 ohms.  The gauges shows percent full
or 100%-0%.  I don't have the specifics on the DeLorean's fuel tank sender
yet.  Anyone?  There is an optional sender in case ours will not cut it.
The gauges can be set to flash at a preset level, such as temperature
flashing above 220, fuel below 15%, etc...and are adjustable in this
respect.


This is what I have compiled so far.  All of this and more can be seen by
visiting www.dakotadigital.com.  As soon as I have pricing I will post to
the list what they want for the kit.  That will be the last post from me on
the fabrication issue.  I guess from here I should maintain a personal email
list to not barrage the list with further "digital" posts.  Once more, if
you are interested, please respond to me personally at mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com
with an email and I will add you to the update list.

Thanks,
Matthew
VIN #10365




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:31:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Miller <betaray_at_dml_kludge.org>
Subject: Re: Digital Dashboard

I've looked at Dakota Digital's stuff and a couple other digital
dashes. What I'd _really_ like is a digital analog dash. Something like
what the 90 (I think this is the right year..) Chrysler Lebarons had. I
love the retro-tech qualities of kind of setup, and I think it completely
fits the D's personality.

Any one know of anyone who sells anything like this? I've looked quite a
bit and have found absolutely nothing.

Another thing I've been thinking about isa heads up display like this one:
http://www.jhkautomagic.com/defivsd.htm

I just haven't had the time to find out how easy it'd be to put one of
these things in our car.

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:52:50 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Ducy to Motorola swap in an '82

Wayne,
Just going to throw my 2 cents worth in. If I were you I would 
upgrade to the DELCO alternators that are available. There are two 
types, The 105amp one and the 144amp one. You can't go wrong with 
either one and it will supply more than enough power for 
Air/Radio/Lights on. There is a guy on the DML who sells the 144amp 
unit that requires no modification to the car at all. PJ Grady also 
sells a drop in 105amp unit. Or you can do what I did, go down to 
your local autoparts store, pick up a 105amp Delco unit and install 
it. You will have to modify two small things on your car to get it 
in. One is the Pivot plate and the other is the wiring harness. 

IMHO I feel that by getting an aftermarket unit that is easily 
obtainable anywhwere and at any parts store is alot better. If the 
unit ever dies on you in the future, you can take it out, go to the 
parts store get another one, drop it in and your ready to roll the 
same day. PEP Boys has a lifetime warranty on their alternators, so 
do some other parts store. If you want more info go to my website 
www.dmcman.homestead.com. I have detailed description on what to 
modify, how to go about modifying and the Alternaor P/N.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, deloreanernst_at_dml_a... wrote:
> My '82 is supposed to have the Motorola alternator, of course, but 
somehow 
> has the Ducellier that's only supposed to be in the '81's. (Yes, 
I'm 
> positive!)  When I first got the D and changed the belts, the 
mechanic told 
> me the alternator belt size supplied by my DeLorean vendor in the 
minor tune 
> up kit was the "wrong" size.  I'm guessing that's because it's the 
wrong 
> alternator, which I didn't realize when I bought the tune up kit.  
My voltage 
> readings are usually low.  12 at best, frequently lower... 10 or 
less, 
> especially with the a/c on.
> Tomorrow morning I'm having a used Motorola installed.  It came 
with the 
> bracket arm attached.  And I still have that correct "wrong" belt. 
Any other 
> mods involved here?  Do they use the same electrical connector 
plug, I hope?  
> If not, HELP, what do I need to get?  I'd really like it installed 
before I 
> drive 5 hours to Richmond, VA. half afraid to use the a/c.
> 
> -Wayne
> Still living the dream!
> vin 11174




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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:07:41 EDT
From: DBJCFAM_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Struts

    I need struts for the engine compartment. Will Monroe or any other brand 
work?



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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:26:29 -0000
From: heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net
Subject: Digital Dashboard - Delorean had a prototype


 One quick note about the digital dashboard... in the early Delorean 
"documentary" that was being sold by the Room 501 folks, there was a 
very quick shot of a prototype Delorean dashboard that looked quite 
like an analog/digital hybrid. Some were digital guages, and some 
digital guages made to simulate analog.  Looked pretty cool, and much 
more sophisticated than what went into production.  I don't have any 
video capture equipment, but if anyone out there with the movie does, 
it was near the beginning of the film.  It would be totally cool to 
get Dakota Digital to manufacture that dashboard.

-Hank  #1619




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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:34:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Nathan E. Green" <gzen21_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Front cooling fans...

Hi all,
   I have a problem with my front fans. The first time around...they would
come on for about 30 seconds..then shut off. Then briefly come on and shut
off. Talked to Don Steeger...sounded like a circuit breaker problem.So, I
temporarily connected them straight together. Ran fine like it was supposed
to for a day. Now the fans sometimes turn on, but mostly refuse to turn on
at all. Once they are running, however, everything appears to be fine.
I.E.--I ran them for about 5min and they didn't shut off.
   I measured the voltage with the "hot" brown/orange wire at the fan
circuit breaker. When they switch is ON and the fans are supposed to work
the voltage reads zero. In the rare situation the fans do work the voltage
reads ~12. So, this means it probably is NOT a grounding problem since I am
not getting power.(For this test I grounded it to the battery neg terminal)
   So, is this a relay problem? Can someone out there help me with the
schematics. I.E.--The fan power comes from the battery, thru the relays and
THEN to the circuit breaker, right??
Help.

Nathan E. Green
gzen21_at_dml_excite.com

"If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88mph you're gonna' see
some serious s--t"
-Doc Brown: "Back to the Future"





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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:09:08 -0400
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
Subject: CD Changer

I got my changer today and I do need to run a power and ground.  I am
installing it in the storage compartment behind the drivers seat.  All
the cords run well into the area where the computer module is.  Can you
simply attach the power and ground to the battery terminals?  I'm not to
confident with an exact place to grab the power from nor where to attach
the ground with all the plastic underbody there, where is there a place
for actual ground?

I suppose I could splice into the power line going to the radio?  (there
is a built in fuse) since it is always live would this be a good idea?
or should I tap into the fuse box somehow?  The power wire is long
enough to make it to the front of the car but the ground wire is shorter
so I will have to find something in the rear deck area to ground it to.

I did get a suggestion to tap into the door lock power but mine are
disabled at the moment.  Any advise would be appreciated

Tom
#05732




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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:36:14 -0400
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_ig2.net>
Subject: Virginia Show this weekend

	I will be camped out at the Holiday Inn with information for the
tech session and show.  If I am not there I will arange for a display
somewhere in the lobby.  Please ask the receptionist if I am not there.
Anyone interested we will be having a tech session on Saturday in
Richmond, VA for more info go to www.dmc12.com <http://www.dmc12.com>  

	The car show info is at www.britishcarclub.com
<http://www.britishcarclub.com> 

	Jack Singer  jsinger_at_dml_ig2.net <mailto:jsinger_at_dml_ig2.net>  



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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:22:22 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Seats

This is a common problem with the seat backs and is easily fixed by adding additional screws at the outer edges of the panel.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: J. Ben Boatright 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [DML] Seats


  I have the same problem with my factory leather seats.  I
  haven't found a perm. solution yet...

  Ben Boatright 10115
  --- wingd2_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
  > Robert,
  > 
  >    I'd take em back to the guy who did the work and make him
  > fix them 
  > correctly.
  > 
  > 
  > In a message dated 9/20/00 11:02:02 PM Central Daylight Time, 
  > dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net writes:
  > 
  > << A while back I had my seats re-upholstered in cloth
  > w/factory 
  >  stitching. The seats are alot more comfortable now, but I
  > have a 
  >  slight problem with the drivers side. If you push your back
  > into the 
  >  seat hard enough, the top portion of the panel on the back
  > pops out. 
  >  Passenger seat is fine. Any ideas? >>
  > 
  > 



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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:11:32 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re:Was Brake Problem now- WARNING!-

I just reread the owners manual for my 82 Delorean. It calls for a 
brake fluid change _at_dml_15,000 mi. and a master cylinder and hoses _at_dml_ 
45,000 mi. From this I guess that the factory knew that the brakes 
were working hard and subject to a lot of heat. It was never meant
for 
the brake fluid to remain in the car for more than about 2 years. If 
you do not know the "vintage" of your brake fluid you should consider 
flushing it out.This could cause other problems like a bad master 
cylinder or leaking caliper seals but they would have gone bad soon 
anyway. If the fluid is contaminated it will cause pitting and the 
sooner you get it out the better. Also ask yourself if it is all dot
3 
and what brand ( what has been added over the years by how many 
owners and gas stations?). The seals in the Delorean tend to degrade 
if you use anything other than Castro GTLMA DOT 4. This is a 
peculiarity to all things English including Jaguars, Healys, Triumphs 
et al are in the same situation. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, that is 
it absorbs moisture from the air. In doing that it reduces the
boiling 
point and leads to the formation of sludge. As the fluid gets wetter 
it gets acidic and attacks the metals in the system. Heat speeds up 
the process and you get pitted cylinder bores. The seals swell and 
everything leaks. The moral to this short story is if you have any 
question about the brake fluid or the brakes are "squishy" first
flush 
the brake system.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757





--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_o...> wrote:
> The rubber hoses to the calipers tend to expand when they get
heated 
> up. Usually consistant stop and go driving will do this. That is
one 
> of the conditions that will cause "squishy" brakes. Also the reason 
> why it got firm again after waiting is becaused they cooled down to 
> the point where they wouldn't expand due to the heat. To totally 
> eliminate this in the future, replace them with stainless steel 
> braided hoses. I remember seeing them for sale on one of the 
Delorean 
> sites, I don't remember where. Maybe one of the other DMLers will 
> know.
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Lowery, Dennis [C]" <loweryd_at_dml_n...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Hello List, My Girlfriend and I were driving around this weekend 
> looking at
> > houses in several different neighborhoods.  After spending a half 
> hour or
> > hour stopping and going, on the brakes off the brakes etc. the 
> brake peddle
> > was starting to get "squishy"...it would almost touch the floor.  
> Before the
> > trip I had a good firm peddle.  After waiting for just a couple
of 
> minutes
> > the firm peddle would come back, but after some more stop and go 
it 
> would
> > get squishy again.  My first thought is that there may be
moisture 
> in the
> > system that is either getting hot or "boiling" causing this 
> condition.  Any
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dennis Lowery
> > Vin.  4797
> > Oct 81
> > 
> > P.S. I'm going the Richmond VA British car show this weekend. 
I'm 
> Leaving
> > Saturday morning From my home in Woodbridge VA ( about 20 miles 
> south of
> > Washington D.C. on the I-95 corridor) If anyone would like to 
> caravan.  Or
> > maybe  I could meet up with an existing caravan.  Please let me 
> know at my
> > NEW e-mail address Ratfink_at_dml_d...  <~~~Pretty cool huh?




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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:35:59 -0500
From: "Mike & Ann Griese" <roscsyl_at_dml_millcomm.com>
Subject: RE: Re: flat tires - warning and question

 1 leave tire
 2 leave passenger
 3 leave tire and passenger
 4 place tire on engine cover and bungee cord the rear louvre

You forgot option 5 - put tire on passenger seat
and bungee passenger to the rear louvre

Mike Griese
3335 County Road 15 SW
Byron, MN  55920
(507)281-1899 





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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:53:01 -0400
From: "Matthew P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>
Subject: Dakota digital dash prices

Well,
        I heard back from Dakota today.  They think that can base our dash
off of their designer series model number STR1001-S 4X11 6 gauge setup.
This helps both the price and fabrication time.  They will make sure it's a
bolt-in, hook-up, add-power, and drive setup.  The basic cost if we get 15
confirmed orders is $700.  As we get more confirmed orders it drops from
there.  20 will go for $667 and 25 will be $650.

        Drop me a line if you'd like to be in on it.  I will make a mailing
list and email everyone when we have confirmation and when we can commence
fabrication.

Matthew
VIN #10365




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