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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 237

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. MODERATOR NOTE: Moritz Holenstein's Tech Page
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

2. Re: More from the strange headlight problem
From: "Michael R Dixon" <investment_at_dml_sunnet.net>

3. Re: Automatic transmissions
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

4. Re: More from the strange headlight problem
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

5. serial number
From: drinkware <drinkware_at_dml_lweb.net>

6. Re: Hotstart Electrical problem
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

7. Re: More from the strange headlight problem
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

8. Original Employees!
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>

9. Re: More from the strange headlight problem
From: at88mph_at_dml_mobis.com

10. Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Moritz Holenstein's Tech Page
From: at88mph_at_dml_mobis.com

11. When asking for password access to the DOD...
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>

12. DeLorean Rental Wanted in NY
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>

13. wheels for sale
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:54:59 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: MODERATOR NOTE: Moritz Holenstein's Tech Page

We have gotten a flood of complaints about yesterday's post from Moritz
via me.    Due to trouble with his eGroups account, Moritz was unable to
post his own messages yesterday, so I posted it for him.

Apparently the Tech Tips page he put up does not work.

Please address your complaints directly to him via his homepage, which
you can reach from his DeLorean page below.  Until Moritz solves his
eGroups problem, I will reject all DML posts regarding his stuff.

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/terminator2000/DeLorean/DeLorean.htm

- Mike Substelny
DML Moderator of the week




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:08:46 -0500
From: "Michael R Dixon" <investment_at_dml_sunnet.net>
Subject: Re: More from the strange headlight problem

I had a simular problem just recently.  After replacing the light switch
(which didn't fix the problem) then the entire turn signal  assembly (didn't
fix the problem) I finally changed the head lights and the was light.  I
couldn't believe it both low beam head lights went out at a same time.  So
instead of spending $10.00 I spent $200.
--
Michael R. Dixon
The Investment Center
Securities Offered Through Harbour Investments Inc.
One Odana Ct.
Madison, WI. 53719
(608) 274-7744
Securties Licensed in OK. CO.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:23:20 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Automatic transmissions

To DMC joe and the list
I have done this test to my own car. I would not ask for someone to do 
anything with their car that couldn't be done safely by competant 
individuals. BE WARNED - IF CONDUCTED IMPROPERLY IT IS POSSIBLE TO 
DAMAGE THE CAR AND THE NEIGHBERHOOD. I need a couple of other owners 
to test their torque converters so I can come up with a stall speed 
not just of my own car. I cannot find any reference to a stall speed 
in the service literiture. It is an important specifacation. The last 
thing I would want to hear is that someone tried this test and damaged 
their car or worse hurt someone.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:38:38 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: More from the strange headlight problem

It is possible and I have seen this more than once is that the low 
beam filiment in both headlights is burned out. When this happens the 
high beam filiment will still work. A possible scenerio is that 1 
light burns out and is not noticed. After a time when the second one 
burns out it seems like they both died at the same time. The best way 
to test this is to do a continuity test of the low filiment on both 
headlights. If the are not burned out then while you are there see if 
there is 12 volts at the plug when you turn the lights on and go from 
low to high. The next step would be (assuming voltage only on high at 
the headlights) checking the dimmer switch.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, sharkywtrs_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Ok, at everyone's suggestion, I pulled off the A/C panel and messed 
with the 
> headlight switch, no good.  The headlights still don't come on.  
BUT!!  The 
> high beams come on fine.  Parking lights come on fine.   Everything 
works BUT 
> the low beams.  Any help as always is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Scott




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:50:45 -0400
From: drinkware <drinkware_at_dml_lweb.net>
Subject: serial number

For the benefit of those who are curious, would someone please show a complete serial number, any actual DeLorean number, and then explain the dissection of that number.Thanks.
Marvin
#4239 


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:08:08 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Hotstart Electrical problem

From your detailed description it sound like you have an intermittent
impulse (induction) coil. Contact us directly for a replacement procedure
publication.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: <gschroe_at_dml_writeme.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:55 PM
Subject: [DML] Hotstart Electrical problem


> I have been chasing a hotstart problem in my DMC vin 716, for some
> time.  Suffice it to say, the car runs for a few miles, stalls, and
> won't start until it is cold, 2-4+ hours later.  Usually the stall
> occurs as I am slowing for a corner or a stop, but this has occured
> also while the car is sitting still and running.
> >
> I suspect this may actually be an Induction Coil problem (located in
> the bottom of the distributor), and I tested across the leads from
> this Induction coil (this connector penetrates the firewall on the
> lower driver side into the compartment where the driving computer is)
> while the car was failing, and I got no reading (an open) on the ohm
> meter at that time.  I understand that a properly performing
> induction coil should not read open when tested.  I did not have the
> opportunity to test my induction coil again after the car sat, but I
> will perform this test this evening.
>
> I have also heard that induction coil problems cause the car to start
> just as the tow truck driver arrives, which is very close to the
> situation I am faced.  It is just not the easiest item to get to and
> replace, so I am asking for input or advice from anyone who has had
> or heard of a similar instance.  Help!  and  Thanks!
>
>
>
> |
> |---||||------------------------
> |
> Orig-Nut-       1/4 rod
> Part





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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:09:08 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: More from the strange headlight problem

Have you checked the low beam relay and socket?

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: <sharkywtrs_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:16 PM
Subject: [DML] More from the strange headlight problem


> Ok, at everyone's suggestion, I pulled off the A/C panel and
> messed with the headlight switch, no good.  The headlights
> still don't come on.  BUT!!  The high beams come on fine.
>  Parking lights come on fine.   Everything works BUT
> the low beams.  Any help as always is greatly appreciated!
>
> Scott





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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:29:53 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Original Employees!

Hi,
I was on a Bricklin site today looking for anything I could find on 
the car.  On the page there was a 6 page letter from an ex-employee 
from the plant that gave his accounts of the plant from beginning to 
end.  How the attitude was in the plant, their (employees) initial 
thoughts of the car, and some of the troubles that plauged the plant 
(no parts, angry vendors).  I know there are some ex-employees from 
the Delorean plant on this list and I was wondering if you had some 
free time, could you do the same??  I'm sure everyone on the list 
would greatly appreciate it!  I could host the letter on a homepage, 
or I'm sure DMCNEWS would do the same (dave??).  Also, while I have 
the ex-employees attention, do any of you have any personal photos of 
the plate when it was open that you could upload to the internet, 
maybe along with the letter?  
This is something that I'm sure everyone on the list would love to 
read.  Who here hasn't spent hours online trying to find anything and 
everything on the car, just to find the same old pics and owner 
stories of how BTTF changed their life.  
Just a thought

Erik Geerdink
4512




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:36:26 -0700
From: at88mph_at_dml_mobis.com
Subject: Re: More from the strange headlight problem

Scott,

Try wiggling the wires under the steering column.  I have the EXACT same
problem.  When I would turn on the lights (low beams only) they didn't come
on.....but when I pushed the switch forward for the brights, they worked.  I
then replaced the switch but no luck so I just took my hand, grabbed the
wires and shook them a little and they came on....from time to time I have
to do that and for the life of me, I can't find where the problem is.  I've
tried tracking down the wire that is causing the prob, but there are SOOOO
many under there that I couldn't find the prob.  Once I finish with the
engine swap, I'll probably have the same prob again and will try to track it
down.  If I EVER do, I'll let ya know what I find....if you find the
prob....lemme know :)

Hope this helps,


Duke

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:44:26 -0700
From: at88mph_at_dml_mobis.com
Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Moritz Holenstein's Tech Page

Mike,


I see what he did wrong.  The link is bad because I've moved my website and
he was pointing it to my old site.  My new site also has the tech tips on
them in the better scanned format.  You can see them at this url as
thumbnails and click on them for the bigger ones:

http://www.geocities.com/at88mph_1999/techtips.html

Please feel free to post this on the message board.


Thanks,


Duke


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:54:00 -0700
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
Subject: When asking for password access to the DOD...

When asking for password access to the DOD PLEASE include your VIN number.

It takes me a lot longer to give you access if I have to hunt down your
entry to verify your access. 

Thanks!

========================================================
Ken Montgomery	Sacramento, CA   VIN #10911  'OUTTIME'
http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean/delorean01.htm    
mailto:kenm_at_dml_csus.edu
Northern California DeLorean Motor Club
http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/
Keeper of the International DeLorean Owners Directory
http://www.dmcnews.com  mailto:directory_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:43:11 -0700
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
Subject: DeLorean Rental Wanted in NY

I've received a request from a person in Long Island, NY (on the East End)
that would like to rent or lease an average or better DeLorean ASAP for
about a week.  The person is a Photographer and a DeLorean enthusiast, and
wants to drive one for about a week before he decides if he would like to
buy one.  If the car he rents is also for sale, he might consider making an
offer on that car.

I've received and satisfied requests for static displays or owner-driver
events, but this is the first request for a rental to be driven. If any of
you are aware of a person or company in NY that might be able to satisfy
this request, please reply directly to Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com. The insurance and
liability issues should be considered before you consider filling this
request yourself.  The owner of the car could be held responsible for
damages caused by the driver.

Gary Hull
Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com





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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:43:29 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: wheels for sale

Hi, I have a rear, front, and spare wheel I would like to sell.  The 
front and rear need to be repainted.  The spare has never been used.  
Please e-mail me if you are interested and I will send you a pic.

Erik Geerdink
4512

ps
If anyone is intersted in a catalitic converter, muffler, or just 
about any engine part...please let me know.  I also have some dinged 
up panels that I will sell for a good price.





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