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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Front end vibration
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

2. Re: Lee's Model Kit
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

3. Lee's Model Kit
From: "Joel Matos" <jmatos22_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Re: Low profile rims & tires
From: <mikeatk_at_dml_concentric.net>

5. Re: Lexan or Plexiglass windshields
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

6. Re: Low profile rims & tires
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

7. Re: Front end vibration
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

8. Re: Swaybar (was Low profile rims. . )
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

9. Re: Re: Turn Signals
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

10. Re: Front end vibration
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

11. Re: Lee's Model Kit
From: "Howard S. Smith" <TeacupFox_at_dml_aol.com>

12. Re: Turn Signals
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_imap.maya.com>

13. re: Lexan or Plexiglass windshields
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>

14. Re: Lexan or Plexiglass windshields
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

15. Re: Powder coated wheels "Gassing Out"
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

16. Re: Lee's Model Kit
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

17. Re: Turn Signals
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

18. Re: Front end vibration
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

19. Lexan or Plexiglass windshields
From: "DMC Wannabe" <jzd_88mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>

20. Lee's Model Kit
From: "William H. Swilley" <billswilley_at_dml_hotmail.com>

21. DMC For Rent?
From: batman282_at_dml_aol.com

22. Cruise Control
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

23. Re: AUTOFEST
From: spooky312_at_dml_aol.com

24. Lee's Model Kits- Answers
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>

25. Lobsters , Delorean Fall Foliage Tour?
From: ladeluca_at_dml_msn.com





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:16:45 -0400
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Front end vibration

Apparently you missed my posting last month about my front end vibration. If
you have already had the front wheels balanced the next step is to rebalance
the rear wheels. That was where my problem was. You also may want to check
your wheel runout on all four wheels. Maximum side runout is 0.080"

Dave Sontos
vin 02573
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From: "Michael R Dixon" <investment_at_dml_sunnet.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:31 PM
Subject: [DML] Front end vibration


> I just had my front tires balanced again but can't seem to get a little
vibration out at about 50mph and above.  What else can it be that is causing
my vibration?
> --
> Michael R. Dixon
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 00:12:43 EDT
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Lee's Model Kit

Nick,

Make no mistake about it. 

It doesn't required OVER two years to produce 100 or 200 models, hand built 
pieces or not.

I am not interest with the ONE model shown in Cleveland.  That maybe one, or 
two, or three units that he may have as a "show piece."  There is still many 
of us that have not received or heard from him!  Get with it.  It is over two 
years and heading into the third.
 
As a business man, he should know what it takes to start and finish a project 
-- production run.  If his production orders can't be met, he should inform 
us or keep us up to date when it will be available.  The only binding point 
to this deal, that he had with us as "bait," is that these kits are "LIMITED 
KITS and NUMBERED."  So many of us has bitten our tongues to keep our mouth 
shut and is hoping for the best that we will get it.  Yes, I have ALSO taken 
into the account that he was ill (okay, give him nine months of convalesce 
time) that is still over a year and a half of time to produce the model kits. 
 Does he need more time?  JUST TELL US, I am a reasonable person and I am 
sure many of the others are too.

So, have you heard from him?  Has anyone heard from him?  I haven't.  After 
my first posting yesterday, there were at least four others that followed my 
posting and they had the same complaints.  They are the TWO SAME ISSUES.  
First issue. None of us has gotten the model. If they did, they got a few 
parts, not a full kit, if they have gotten anything at all.  Second.  I and 
many others haven't heard from him, no matter how many times we have written 
or called him.  
BTW. Have you tried his website?
http://www.totalimmersion.com/delorean/dmcbulletentry.html

An old proverb: "Bird (model) in hand is better then two in the bush 
(promises)."

I maybe wrong.  I may get my model...................so, until I get the 
model "IN MY HANDS," I stand firm on my statement:
"Lost of time, energy and money."

Kayo Ong
#5508
Lic  9D  NY


In a message dated 10/1/00 6:21:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, njp548_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:

<< I too ordered a kit from Lee,  and I also e-mailed him.  I did, however 
get a 
 reply from him about the kits.  I'm not sure how long ago this was, but it 
 couldn't have been more than a few months ago.  Do any of you know much work 
 it is to create a De Lorean model as painstakingly as Lee has done?  I know 
 its been a long time, but I really think we should give Lee a little slack 
on 
 the model kits.  Kayo Ong, why do you consider this a lost investment?  You 
 will get your model kit.  If you went to Cleveland this past June, you would 
 have seen the special edition model kit Lee created for the Cleveland event, 
 so the kits do actually exist.  It just takes time.  Just my 2 cents.
  >>




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:22:39 AST
From: "Joel Matos" <jmatos22_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Lee's Model Kit

Im also waiting for my kit, please LEE answer

Yo tambien estoy esperando por mi orden, por favor LEE contesta


Joel vin 3476
Puerto Rico



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:01:30 -0700
From: <mikeatk_at_dml_concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Low profile rims & tires

Walt, Have the shop put the weights on the inside of the tires.  That way no
one sees them.

Mike Atkinson
Vin 16232


"Some people prefer to live
 with out-of-balance wheels rather than look at ugly wheel weights.  I think
 I would rather look at the weights."










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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 06:39:39 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Lexan or Plexiglass windshields

Claude,
I'm not sure if it is a national law, but in Florida, I understand that
insurance is required to pay for any broken or cracked windshield with no
deductible.  You might try going to a local auto glass shop and inquiring.
They might be able to install a Lotus Espirit windshield at no cost to you.

About the Plexiglas idea:
I've heard stories about a government requirement concerning windshield
strength.  As I understand it, windshields cannot be made too strong or else
they will cause people too much injury when their heads hit them in an
accident.  The same goes for tinting windshields.  One of the reasons why it
is illegal to tint an entire windshield is that it will make the glass too
strong and could cause more injury to your head than the government would
like to see happen in an accident.  On all windshields near the top, there
is a little line on one side marked, "A_S" or something to that effect.  On
my Delorean with OEM windshield, it's on the upper left.  The little line
next to this lettering denotes the legal limit to where window tinting can
be put.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:48:12 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Low profile rims & tires

Dan,
You got me on this one!  I never knew that there were stock rear spacers for
the Delorean.  My car didn't have any rear spacers on it when I bought it.
Were all Deloreans originally shipped with rear spacers?  Or just some of
them?  Could my Delorean have had spacers on them that were removed by a
previous owner?

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:52:37 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Front end vibration

Mike,
It might be that one of your rotors are out of balance.  Maybe you should
have your tires balanced while they are on the car.

Another posibility is that your tires could be out-of-round.  Jack each
wheel off the ground until they spin freely.  Spin each wheel and see if the
distance from wheel to ground changes as the tire spins.

I've heard of wheel shops that can 'true' tires, but I've never seen it
done.  For those of you who don't know, to 'true' a tires means to grind or
wear away any high spots to make the tire round.

Walt    Tampa, FL
WATSDAT





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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:58:36 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Swaybar (was Low profile rims. . )

Thanks Dave, Dan & Marty for the info on the sway bar.

I have two leads for having a new sway bar made.  The first one is a local
suspension shop called Tampa Spring.  They can make just about anything.
The second lead is ... maybe you can help me on this ... I think it was
Trevor Summer's Delorean.  It has a custom REAR sway bar he ordered from a
catalog.

Brain & Joe -- are you reading this?  Do you remember who's Delorean it was
who had the rear sway bar?  I bet whoever made this could make a new front
sway bar.

I'm glad to hear that the sway bar wasn't intended to also function as a
wheel stop.  This will make it a lot easier to design a new one.  The sway
bar is supposed to work like a big spring.  So it isn't just a matter of
getting a big metal rod and bending it to the right shape.  It has to be
made out of the right kind of metal and then be tempered to give it the
right spring quality.  I know that Tampa Spring has a kiln big enough to
bake a sway bar.

Since the dimensions are critical to wheel castor, can anyone give me the
factory engineering specs for the end-to-end distance?  Perhaps someone
could come up with the specs for spring constant (K-value?)  I would rather
go by this than trust that the OEM sway bar on my Delorean is true to
factory specs.  As a worst case scenario, I could measure sway bars from a
few Deloreans and take an average.  The problem is, I feel like I'm more abt
to spot a unicorn in Tampa than a Delorean.  I want to make the first new
geometry sway bar right on the first try.

As far as beefing up the sway bar goes... we are limited to using OEM bar
diameter without modifying the parts the bar fits into.  It would be too
much candy for a nickel to have to start with a larger diameter bar and turn
the ends down on a lathe.  I used to know a guy with a lathe long enough to
do such a thing.  Perhaps using a different alloy would do the job.
Suggestions anyone?

Marty -- the strange thing about both my Delorean and Randy's is that we
both have about the same amount of sway bar wear on BOTH sides.  Unless we
both have/had too much toe-in adjustment?  I'll find out when I get mine
apart and take some measurements.

I'll keep y'all informed as to my progress.  The end result should be an
improved sway bar that will give less body roll and a sharper turning
radius.

Walt    Tampa, FL






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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 07:10:27 -0500
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Turn Signals

At 03:20 AM 10/2/00 -0000, you wrote:
>Make sure that all of the bulbs are the same type (correct type) and 
>that they are in the sockets correctly. The hazard flasher is 
<snip>

Also clean all the sockets as a little bit of corrosion can cause problemw
with this.

Mark N
VIN 6820



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 07:15:41 -0500
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Front end vibration

You may want to consider getting the tires and wheels checked by a shop
that has a Hunter GSP 9700 balancing machine. It is capable of checking for
wheel runout, hard spots in the tire, and a number of other things that can
cause vibrations like this. About the only thing it can't check is problems
on the car itself, like wheel bearings. But most of the potential problems
are tire and wheel related and it can check all of those things. No
affiliation, I just like a machine that can tell you so many useful things. 

You can check for places with one of these at:  http://www.gsp9700.com/

Mark N
VIN 6820

At 08:31 PM 10/1/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I just had my front tires balanced again but can't seem to get a little
vibration out at about 50mph and above.  What else can it be that is
causing my vibration?
>--
>Michael R. Dixon




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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 13:16:49 -0000
From: "Howard S. Smith" <TeacupFox_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Lee's Model Kit

.Actually from Teacupfox's spouse--who won the Cleveland 2000 kit -- 
Lee had sent me a detailed e-mail in June regarding the winning of 
this special limited edition kit--we are being very, very patient 
waiting for the manuals etc. for this kit; also we purchased one of 
the five he had left in stainless steel because we did not want to 
open the "gold, limited edition".  These are a "work of art"!  Never 
rush an artist!  Again, be patient; in the grand scheme of things
what 
is a couple of years -- look how long it JZD to realize his "dream"!




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:29:10 -0400
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_imap.maya.com>
Subject: Re: Turn Signals

In all likelihood, this problem is due to dirty and/or corroded bulb 
sockets and/or connectors. I had this problem, which manifested 
itself only in wet weather. The solution: clean, clean, clean.

Start with the bulb sockets, since they are the easiest. Use tuner 
cleaner, fine sandpaper, ink erasers, etc. One tip: there is a little 
wire-brush wheel accessory for the Dremmel tool that fits perfectly 
into the bulb sockets. Works wonders. Clean or replace the bulbs, too.

If that doesn't fix it, start cleaning harness connectors. There are 
the ones under the dash, and the ones up front by the bulbs. There is 
also one under the left front fender that you have to remove the 
windshield washer reservoir cover to get to. (As an aside, if you 
haven't removed this cover recently, best to spray some liquid wrench 
on the bolts the night before. It's hell if you strip those rivnuts. 
Also, make sure the drain holes at the bottom of the cover are clear, 
else you will soon have a rusted-up washer pump.)

--pete
   VIN #06703

>
>
>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_w...> wrote:
>>  After now getting my cooling fan repaired, I have run into yet
>>  another "I never imagined this could go wrong too, but since it
>could
>>  it did" type of problem. Now my right turn signal has decided to
>>  speed up and blinks about 3 times faster then my left. Hazard
>lights
>>  operate as normal, and no bulbs are burned out. Any ideas? At this
>>  point I'd even consider a witch doctor!
>>
>>  -Robert
>  > vin 6585



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:37:45 -0400
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: re: Lexan or Plexiglass windshields

Claude wrote:

> From what I understand most of the remaining NOS windshields have a
> problem with delimanation(TRUE FACT) and as such,can a windshield be

I just purchased an NOS windshield from Houston, and it has not
delaminated at all.  The only windshields I have ever seen delaminate
while in storage are from late 1950's/early 1960's cars.  I do not
believe that this has ever been a problem with the DeLoreans.  In fact,
while at Cleveland this summer there were over 100 D's there, and I
didn't see any with bad windshields.  Where are you getting your
information from?

-Dave Stragand
VIN #05927




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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 14:53:26 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Lexan or Plexiglass windshields

Claude,
In my opinion, I would not attempt to do this for the following 
reasons:

1. Plexiglas scratches especially if you are going to use it as a 
windshield it will be subjected to rocks, debris etc.. which will 
scratch it.

2. After some time to exposure to elements (wind, rain, snow, 
sunlight) the plexiglass will form sort of a foggy appearance on it 
whish would (over time) make it difficult to see through, especially 
at night.

The Delorean windshield does have a curve to it. As far as the 
inspection is concerned, depending on where you bring it they may 
overlook it and just glance at it to make sure there are no cracks in 
it. But then again some shops will inspect anything that looks a 
little out of the ordinary. There is a safety stamp on ALL automotive 
glass (windshields, roll down windows..etc) and if they don't see the 
DOT safety stamp on the windshield, they will most likely to fail 
you. 

The delaminating problem you described is true, but it's not a big 
problem. The car I purchased from my friend has a NOS windshield 
(from PJ Grady I think) and the delimanation is at the very bottom of 
the glass over the black trim. It is not in the line of sight as you 
are driving (you can't even see it from the inside of the car since 
it's so low down)and it is hardly noticeable from the outside. I 
would replace it with the right windshield the first time and not 
just slap on a temporary solution then remove it and install the 
right one. 

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, cbl302_at_dml_m... wrote:
> From what I understand most of the remaining NOS windshields have a 
> problem with delimanation(TRUE FACT) and as such,can a windshield 
be 
> made from Lexan or plexiglass to fit a Delorean,as the Delorean 
> windshield has no bends as far as I know,(maybe I may be wrong on 
> that,I maybe thinking Bricklin windshields)Would it be a legal 
> issue,I just need to do it to get the car thru safety 
inspection,and 
> then I would buy a new aftermarket windshield ie:expensive.I was 
> thinking two sheets of plexiglass joined together,cut to the 
specs.. >snip<
> 
> Claude 
> 000570




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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:38:39 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Powder coated wheels "Gassing Out"

In a message dated 10/1/00 9:43:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
billschaferabn_at_dml_aol.com writes:

<< the owner mentioned he thought the  wheels were "Gassing Out". Being new 
to powder coating I played it cool and  decided to listen instead of guessing 
what that meant. He explained to me that  my alloy wheels must have taken on 
some impurities during the time the paint  had peeled off the wheels. This 
then required the wheels be baked at least 6  hours to insure the impurities 
(now a gas product) could be cooked off. As it  turned out they cooked them 
for about 16 hours and the wheels still had a very small amount of "Gassing 
out". But I can live with the 98% perfect job.  >>
I had the same experience.  Only one wheel was a noticable problem. Standing 
up and looking at them, they look great.  Get down on your knees and you see 
some "orange peel" but let's face it, the original wheels aren't mirror 
smooth to begin with.  I'm still delighted with the way they look, and I 
think the powder coat will stick on and last much longer than the original.  
My wheels had some minor flaking, with just a little whitish oxidation.  
Inside they were like new, once the NCTs were off.  Even the valve stems. I 
matched the original gray, and I'm glad I did since I now think chrome would 
look worse on a less-than-mirror smooth finish.

-Wayne
vin 11174
The New DeLorean Manuals Project
 



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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:16:18 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Lee's Model Kit

Here's a Lee supporter!

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: <njp548_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Lee's Model Kit




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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:34:31 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Turn Signals

Robert,

This problem is common and is a result of corrosion and heat distortion in
the bulb socket. The distortion causes the bulb contacts to miss-align with
the socket contacts causing erratic or intermittent lamp operation. If the
problem is not severe the socket can be repaired by cleaning the socket
contacts with WD-40 or other penetrant.

Severely distorted or corroded sockets will need to be replaced.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Rooney <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 7:01 PM
Subject: [DML] Turn Signals


> After now getting my cooling fan repaired, I have run into yet
> another "I never imagined this could go wrong too, but since it could
> it did" type of problem. Now my right turn signal has decided to
> speed up and blinks about 3 times faster then my left. Hazard lights
> operate as normal, and no bulbs are burned out. Any ideas? At this
> point I'd even consider a witch doctor!
>
> -Robert
> vin 6585





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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:59:42 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Front end vibration

Michael,

The DeLorean uses a racing type suspension system and requires very tight
alignment and wheel balancing properties. In many cases computer balancing
is not sufficient to eliminate wheel vibration. This is a precise procedure
which most alignment shops are not experienced in.

You will need to find an alignment shop that is equipped for "on the car
spin balancing". Check the yellow pages for a suspension alignment shop
specializing in performance automobiles.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael R Dixon <investment_at_dml_sunnet.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:31 PM
Subject: [DML] Front end vibration


> I just had my front tires balanced again but can't seem to get a little
vibration out at about 50mph and above.  What else can it be that is causing
my vibration?
> --
> Michael R. Dixon
> The Investment Center
> Securities Offered Through Harbour Investments Inc.
> One Odana Ct.
> Madison, WI. 53719
> (608) 274-7744
> Securities Licensed in OK. CO.





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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:30:20 -0000
From: "DMC Wannabe" <jzd_88mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Lexan or Plexiglass windshields

  Claude and list,
  I dont see many problems with using Lexan or Plexiglass for 
windshields. On my car (non DMC) the front two windows will be Lexan 
half styles (like the DMC, top part stays in place, the bottom half 
rolls down like normal) because of the custom speaker set-up (cant 
have the window hitting the speaker, now cant we?). Also, about the 
issue about breaking, at the race track where I work everyone uses 
Lexan or Plexiglass on their race cars. True the cars are not driven 
on the streets everyday, but they go just as fast and hit each other 
harder than "most" everyday situations. Never have we had a 
windshield break. The only concern I would have using Lexan as a 
windshield is that it scratches very easily and scratches dont buff 
out.
   DMC Wannabe




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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 13:44:30 GMT
From: "William H. Swilley" <billswilley_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Lee's Model Kit


>Subject: Re: Lee's Model Kit

I, too have not received a kit and have had limited success in getting a 
response from Lee.  Last July, when he posted a note about some edition 
owners falling through the cracks, I e-mailed and asked him to check on my 
status.  I received a curt reply:

<You need to give me your edition number!>

<Lee>

Not having a record of an "edition number" nor any memory of having received 
one, I replied with the number and date of the check I had sent him, as well 
as the date the check had cleared my account.  Since that time, I have not 
had the courtesy of a reply of any kind.  I've remained silent because of 
assurances by others that Lee is a "nice guy", but our combined experiences 
would seem to indicate otherwise.  Perhaps those that are close to Lee can 
check with him and provide us with an accurate status report.  I am willing 
to give him the benefit of the doubt and can envision circumstances of 
personal difficulty that might prevent him from dealing with this issue.

Staying tuned..

Bill Swilley
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 15:45:09 EDT
From: batman282_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DMC For Rent?

Hello DMCers-
  I am but a poor student in his last year of high school who desperately wants a D of his own, but has to continue to save for one. I had a proposition for someone who is either going to sell their D or just wants a few bucks. I am shooting a little BACK TO THE FUTURE video for my Video Production class and I would LOVE to have the DeLorean play its original part, I would only need it for about a half a days shooting and I'd be willing to pay 50 dollars, on top of that the owner is totally welcome to sit and watch and hang around as long as he/she wants, I am TOTALLY not expecting anyone to leave ME their car for a day. Anywhoo if you are in the Southern California area and are willing to lend a FUTURE DMCer your beatuiful piece of machinery I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you all for your time!

Marty McFly
deVries Dimensions Pictures
Los Angeles, CA




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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:47:35 -0400
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Cruise Control

Now this is one topic I thought would be covered extensively in the
archive's but was surprised to find only vague references.

I am looking to install a cruise control on my DeLorean this fall. I
tried Pep Boys, Advance Auto, and Auto Zone and they all have only the
one style(the same one) which seems to apply only to cars 1992 and
above. I know several years ago I bought one at Sears for one of my
other cars but I believe Sears stores no longer carry automotive
accesseries.

Question: If you recently installed a cruise control on your car where
did you get it, how much was it, & did you install it yourself.

Dave Sontos
vin 02573




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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:50:01 EDT
From: spooky312_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: AUTOFEST

One more thing about autofest, can anyone give me the directions to the event 
in evansville?? Street names and the like? Thank you



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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:09:12 -0700
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
Subject: Lee's Model Kits- Answers

   Hi Everyone.

I sat down with Lee last night to talk about the Limited Edition model kits.
I am a friend of Lee's and I'm trying to help with the kits.

For a history of these kits, check out:
http://www.totalimmersion.com/delorean/dmchistory.html

Lee has about 25 yet to finish and he is planning to devote the month of
October to get them done. He hopes to have every last kit in the hands of
the owners before Christmas. They WILL get finished. The only way you won't
get your model is if you've changed e-mails and/or postal addresses since
you paid for your kits and not forwarded this to Lee or myself.

As to his mail and website, he had his ISP drop dead on him (they were
bought out by another company that only wanted their DSL services and they
pulled the plug on the rest of their operations -- without warning --). I
set Lee up with another ISP and got his mail and websites working again.
They have been fully in operation for several months:

http://www.radiance.com/
http://www.totalimmersion.com/
lseiler_at_dml_totalimmersion.com
lseiler_at_dml_radiance.com

I don't know why people keep saying that the website is down. Granted, there
is no BBS on the site, but the model information and the contact info are
all in place.

Yes, it's been a long time. Lee is retiring from the software business and
he's had to devote almost all of his time to getting that done. That's why
I've asked people to contact me instead of Lee directly so that I can help
him with the model kits. He's also been busy making keys for the major
DeLorean parts suppliers which you can order from them with no waiting. Once
he's past the kits he'll start on the lighted keys. The molds have already
been cast and they'll have white LEDs for the light source.

Other DeLorean models:

Lee was commissioned by Sun-Star America (http://www.sunstartoys.com) to
assist in the design of a 1/16 scale die-cast DeLorean model. It's now in
Sun Star's hands and they project that the cars will be available starting
in February 2001. They will be available through the usual toy and die-cast
suppliers (and perhaps some of the DeLorean parts suppliers) for between
$24.95-$29.95. These are completed models with working doors etc., not kits.
They will not be a limited edition. The first production run will be 80,000
to 90,000 cars.

Please, let this be the last that we use the DML for this subject. Contact
me privately if you have any more questions.

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:njp548_at_dml_aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 12:11 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] Lee's Model Kit 
> 
> 
> I too ordered a kit from Lee,  and I also e-mailed him.  I did, however
get a reply from him about the kits.  I'm not sure how long ago  this was,
but it couldn't have been more than a few months ago.  Do any of you know
much work it is to create a De Lorean model as painstakingly as Lee has
done?  I know its been a long time, but I really think we should give Lee a
little slack on the model kits.  Kayo Ong, why do you consider this a lost 
> investment?  You will get your model kit.  If you went to Cleveland this
past June, you would have seen the special edition model kit Lee created for
the Cleveland event, so the kits do actually exist.  It just takes time.
Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Later,
> Nick
> 1852
> web page   http://members.aol.com/njp548  (Added scrolling 
> DMC emblem to web 
> page border, worth the time to check it out :)   and as 
> always feedback is 
> always welcome)



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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:23:51 -0000
From: ladeluca_at_dml_msn.com
Subject: Lobsters , Delorean Fall Foliage Tour?

The Delorean Fall Foliage tour is only about two weeks away and I'm 
trying to take care of a lot of small details.
I need some info from those that are planing to or may want to attend.
Flo's Clam shack has not had lobsters for much of this season but 
they said that they would bring some in for our group. They will be 
about $8.95 each (this is a pay as you go, I don't collect money for 
this) and I want to get an idea of how many I should tell them to 
order.
 Note: this place does not take reservations, it's first come first 
serve so there is no guarantee that you will get a Lobster but I'm 
doing the best I can to accommodate as many people as possible thus 
if you think you want Lobster please let me know.
Mdeluca_at_dml_comtechpst.com

Also check out the Tri State Delorean web page. Gary Masie 
(President) was kind enough to post info about the trip and the 
registration form if you need one. 
http://homestead.juno.com/tristatedocs/TRISTATEDOCS.html






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