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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Pleasant Experience(was Re: Delorean Image)
From: comet6974_at_dml_juno.com

2. Re: San Diego Deloreans
From: "wayne selden" <w.selden_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

3. Getting doors to stay up
From: "Kevin J. Creason" <k_creason_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Re: DMC12 Wanted
From: "Kevin J. Creason" <k_creason_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. Delorean Dealer Sign
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_netunlimited.net>

6. Re: DMC12 Wanted
From: "wayne selden" <w.selden_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

7. RE: Dash Mat
From: "Doc" <doctor280_at_dml_email.msn.com>

8. DeLorean biography (Was Sad comment.)
From: "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net>

9. Directions Fall Foliage Tour
From: "Michael DeLuca" <mdeluca_at_dml_comtechpst.com>

10. Fall, Foliage, tour, meeting, place...
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

11. Re: Delorean Dealer Sign
From: Mark Fearer <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com>

12. Re: Getting doors to stay up
From: paulf52093_at_dml_aol.com

13. RE: San Diego Deloreans
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>

14. Re: San Diego Deloreans
From: thai vu <thaiqvu_at_dml_yahoo.com>

15. Re: San Diego Deloreans
From: "World Traveller" <eurojet_at_dml_sdcoe.k12.ca.us>

16. Re: DMC12 Wanted
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>

17. HELP!...idle & trans. trouble
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

18. More on keys
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

19. Delorean Southwest Service Centers
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

20. re: Pleasant Experience/DMCenter
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

21. Re: Pleasant Experience(was Re: Delorean Image)
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>

22. Re: DMC12 Wanted
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>

23. Re: Autofest
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

24. Re Dash Mat
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

25. Re: re: Pleasant Experience/DMCenter
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:04:58 -0700
From: comet6974_at_dml_juno.com
Subject: Re: Pleasant Experience(was Re: Delorean Image)

Most people Who have dealt with Don would agree that he is a very
pleasant man, However, Do be careful. Don's main concern is fixing the
problem and getting the car moving again, not always with the right
parts. We bought our first car from a man who had the car serviced there,
we had duct tape holding our Tail Light together, the radiator was some
cheap brand that rusted out in less than a year (mind you we live in
warm, and dry part of California and keep the car garaged). The gas
struts from him were shoddy, and overall, i was left of an impression of
him looking for a way to cut corners to save a buck. Which you know what,
Just isn't right for my Deloreans


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:33:38 -0700
From: "wayne selden" <w.selden_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: San Diego Deloreans

Scott,
    There are quite a few DeLorean owners in San Diego County. Hopfully, the
moderator can share our email addresses so we can contact each other.

Wayne Selden
w.selden(at)att.net

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:27:44 -0500
From: "Kevin J. Creason" <k_creason_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Getting doors to stay up

My DMC (picking up this week) has problem keeping the doors all the way up. I understand there are two things involved- the counterweight/torsion bar, and the pneumatic strut.
Are there adjustment procedures for either of these two?
Any guesses as to what the problem is?
-Kevin
soon to drive #4687


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:25:30 -0500
From: "Kevin J. Creason" <k_creason_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: DMC12 Wanted

Watch EBay. I'm getting mine this week! ;)
-Kevin
soon to drive #4687

----- Original Message -----
From: "W.D.SEARLS, JR." <Buckeye99_at_dml_copper.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 9:25 PM
Subject: [DML] DMC12 Wanted


> Hello all,
> I am again looking for a Delorean. 



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:38:33 -0400
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_netunlimited.net>
Subject: Delorean Dealer Sign

Can anyone in the group give me the value of a Delorean Dealer Sign?  I
think I have located one.  Although I'm not sure if it is for sale, I
would like to have an idea of it's worth before contacting the owner.

Thanks,

Bill Lane
Vin 3635
blane_at_dml_netunlimited.net




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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:47:53 -0700
From: "wayne selden" <w.selden_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: DMC12 Wanted

How about one with only 252,289 miles and little rust? My neighbor has one
that he is interested in selling,real cheap.





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 02:48:18 -0400
From: "Doc" <doctor280_at_dml_email.msn.com>
Subject: RE: Dash Mat

Unless you dash is beyond repair, I would recommend against using the Dash
mat. The vinyl material used in the Delorean dash must breath and the Dash
mat will prevent this from occurring. The use of a Dash mat will result in
the dash losing color and deterioration, at an accelerated rate.

Robert Starling
Vin#5252






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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:19:17 +0200 (DST)
From: "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net>
Subject: DeLorean biography (Was Sad comment.)

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:04:22 -0400, Sternbach, William [IT] wrote:

> I have found it impossible to buy a biography of John Delorean from all
> of the bookstores (Amazon.Com, Barnes & Noble.com, Borders,
> Booksamillion.com, etc).
> 
> They all say that all of the biographies of John Delorean are out of print
> and are unavailable.

Have you tried the Amazon 'out-of-print search service'? They found
out-of-print books for me as well. Very helpfull.

Sacha






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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:48:57 -0000
From: "Michael DeLuca" <mdeluca_at_dml_comtechpst.com>
Subject: Directions Fall Foliage Tour

Directions Fall Foliage Tour 
 
Dan, danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com  and ??? will be at the Palisades Mall
Center in West Nyack around 11:00 am  and will depart at 11:30 am the 
route is as follows (I'm using Map quest for the directions).
1. Depart the Mall and take NY-303 to the I-87south/ I-287 east /NE
   NY Thruway ramp to the Tappen Zee Bridge /New York Thruway South.  
   Take I-87/ I-287  (I believe it becomes I-287 Cross Westchester    
   Expressway) Take this to I-95 North (New England TRWY). 
2. Once you are on to I-95 North (New England TRWY)in CT take this to 
   the rest stop in Darien CT off I-95, I believe this is between
   exit 12 &13. I will be there at about 12:00 noon and so will some  
   other Delorean owners. I hope to depart The Darien rest stop      
   (heading North) at 12:15.
3. The next official stop is Mystic CT. I believe this is Exit 90     
   off of I-95 (it is the exit for the Aquarium). We should arrive 
   there around 2:15 PM. The meeting place should be right at the    
   visitor Information center unless the parking lot is full there   
   (then it will be in the parking lot east of the 
   Tourist information center going toward the  Aquarium (this is all 
   one big connected parking lot). 
   Some New England people should be joining us at  this point. We 
   will take an Hour break for lunch
   and then head to the Pleasant View Hotel in Westerly  RI 1-800 
   782-3224. About  30 minutes away. 
3. From Old Mystic Take Route 95 North to Exit 92,
   Westerly-Pawcatuck. take right on Route 2 and follow for about one 
   mile. Take a right onto Route 78 (East). Continue on Route 78
   until it ends (about 4miles). At light, continue straight across   
   Route 1 onto Airport Road. At the first Stop sign bear left onto   
   Winnapaug  Road.   Continue straight until it ends and then take a 
   right onto Atlantic Ave. The PV Inn will be on your left    
   approximately 6 blocks down. 

The Pleasent View Inn Phone 1(800)782-3224, in RI (401)348-8200
 67 Atlantic Ave. Misquuamicut Beach Westerly RI 02891






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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 03:24:36 HST
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Fall, Foliage, tour, meeting, place...

I will be stopping at the Palisades Mall for anyone who wants to Caravan. I 
will be getting there around 11am, and will depart around 11:30am as per 
Mike's original plan. Please e-mail me at Danrc30(at)hotmail.com if you will 
be joining me. If you e-mail me, and are running a little late, I'll wait 
for you. Thanks.

---Dan
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:15:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Fearer <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean Dealer Sign

 I have seen them go on ebay for over $2000.00.

--
Mark Fearer
vin 3072


On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, William F. Lane wrote:

> Can anyone in the group give me the value of a Delorean Dealer Sign?  I
> think I have located one.  Although I'm not sure if it is for sale, I
> would like to have an idea of it's worth before contacting the owner.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill Lane
> Vin 3635
> blane_at_dml_netunlimited.net
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:09:17 EDT
From: paulf52093_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Getting doors to stay up

Congratulations on your acquisition of a DMC-12!  Do not feel alone in your 
experience with the "drooping door" syndrome ... it happens to all of us 
sooner or later.  

First, you CAN replace the struts -- a relatively easy job -- but be sure you 
get the right size and capacity.  That may be all you'll need.

Second, DO NOT attempt to tinker with the torsion bar unless you are VERY 
confortable with the process.  The tension is extreme, and you can a) injure 
yourself, and b) damage your car.  This can be done, but do not experiment 
with it unless you are very sure of yourself.  And, as noted, the struts may 
cure the problem and obviate fiddling with the torsion bars.

Good luck with the car!  And please take my comment about the torsion bars 
very seriously ... I have heard of people being severely injured trying an 
amateur fix for them.  If it does turn out that you need to tweak the bars, 
either learn all about it first or consult with someone you trust who has 
done this operation before ... and done it successfully!

Paul Feine
#10944



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:54:42 -0700
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
Subject: RE: San Diego Deloreans

    And another thing you can do is add yourself to the International
DeLorean Owners Directory, a service of DMCnews. We have at least 5 owners
listed in San Diego.

Just go to http://www.dmcnews.com/directory.html and then send me an email
requesting access to the current directory (please include your VIN # so I
can verify you're in the Directory).

Every owner on the DML should be in the directory.

Ken

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Ken Montgomery	Sacramento, CA   VIN #10911  'OUTTIME'
http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean/delorean01.htm    
mailto:kenm_at_dml_csus.edu
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http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/
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http://www.dmcnews.com  mailto:directory_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: wayne selden [mailto:w.selden_at_dml_worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 9:34 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] San Diego Deloreans
> 
> 
> Scott,
>     There are quite a few DeLorean owners in San Diego 
> County. Hopfully, the
> moderator can share our email addresses so we can contact each other.
> 
> Wayne Selden
> w.selden(at)att.net
> 
> ***Moderator note - if you want to make your address visible 
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:08:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: thai vu <thaiqvu_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: San Diego Deloreans

The closest DMC service is in Garden Grove, Orange
County.  It's Don Steger's; he only repair Deloreans
and has excellent customer service.  His number is
714-554-6794.  His customers are all over the US,
mostly in close by states (Arizona, Nevada, Utah,
Oregon,...)

 
--- Scot Stern <SGSKBM_at_dml_aol.com> wrote:
> I live just outside of San Diego and I am wondering
> if anyone who 
> reads this knows anyone in San Diego with a
> Delorean.  Lokking for 
> conversation and information on repairs in the local
> area.  
> 
> Also, I have attended cruise nights in Escondido on
> Firdays and the 
> reactions have been incredible and I was wondering
> if anyone else 
> would like to join me.
> 
> Scot
> 6452
> 
> 
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:10:39 -0000
From: "World Traveller" <eurojet_at_dml_sdcoe.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Re: San Diego Deloreans

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "wayne selden" <w.selden_at_dml_w...> wrote:
> Scott,>     There are quite a few DeLorean owners in San Diego County.Hopfully, the> moderator can share our email addresses so we can contact eachother.> > Wayne Selden> w.selden(at)att.net> 

***Here I am, another DeLorean owner in San Diego.  I agree that all of us should get together. I'm always the only one at the car shows and was the only one in last year's St. Patricks Day parade.  The last time I saw one cruising down one of the local freeways it had Arizona plates. Fil Vigil   eurojet at sdcoe.k12.ca.us




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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:34:37 -0200
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>
Subject: Re: DMC12 Wanted

>"watch e-bay"
  Sorry- I know this is a little off subject, but I would not buy a DeLorean I can't see and touch. Over the past six months I have learned that the car might not always be as it is advertised (there is once instance in particular, but I won't go into that!). If you could go see the car before you bid that is a different story. I have learned that you can tell more by test driving a DeLorean than anything. The more DeLoreans you get out and see, the more you learn. Good luck in your search!
Louie Golden
VIN#(still searching, ugh!!!)


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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:41:33 EDT
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: HELP!...idle & trans. trouble

Just bought my DeLorean, and I've noticed that the idle is set
really high.  Just took it in to try and get it smogged, and the
guy tells me that it is idleing too high to do the smog.  I've also
noticed that the automatic trans is now having more problems
shifting than I've ever noticed before.  

Basically, why would the idle be set so high on this car?  Is this
and the trans. two seperate problems?  Hit me with your best shot...
what is going on here and how much is it going to cost to fix
this stuff?

This is really bummin me out here, guys (and ladies)...I've wanted
one for a long time and now it seems this thing is going to need
more work than I thought, and I (unlike alot of DeLorean owners)
am not rolling in dough.  What can I do to fix this guy up and get
him into decent running condition again?

Please help...and thanks for all the good advice so far,

Richard



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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:25:02 -0500
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: More on keys

We have a LARGE supply of door keys with lights that are pre-cut for 
the DeLorean.

The problem is that all of these keys are organized by key code, and 
we only have a small fraction (maybe 10%) of the VINs and Key Codes 
on a cross reference list.

Through investigation in the shop here in Houston, I have discovered 
that a large majority of the cars have the key codes written in magic 
marker underneath the door headliners. It will look something like 
this:

WR5006

Generally two letters and four numbers. No other combination appears 
to be a door code. Obviously if you know or think that your door 
locks have been changed or re-keyed, this method won't work and 
you're probably out of luck.

These keys are sold as follows:

106244 - Precut Key - $19.08
106245 - Precut Key "guts" (metal contacts, spring, button, etc) - $14.95

They are sold only as sets shown above (Qty 1 each of #106244, and 
#106245), for a total of $34.03.

Please EMAIL ME DIRECTLY to either look up your VIN code or give me a 
VIN code to search for the key. DO NOT CALL WARREN OR STEPHEN ON THIS 
- this is a 'pet project' of mine that they have authorized me to 
trial run and see if it's worth the hassle. Phone calls to Warren 
and/or Stephen will result in no action being taken and you being 
referred to email me.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:06:57 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Delorean Southwest Service Centers

In the Nevada and Utah areas the best shop that I've found to work on 
DeLoreans is Roger's Auto Repair. He is the only mechanic in the area 
I know of that was Factory trained by DeLorean Motor Company in 1981. 
His mechanics know DeLoreans, and his shop services the large number 
of D's here in Las Vegas. He is not DeLorean specific as he does work 
on all makes and models of cars, but he gave me both an accurate ETA 
for when my car would be completed, and he didn't go over the price 
on the estimate that he gave me. And the work that he did was 
flawless! California has it's service centers, and I believe that 
Arizona has a reccomended shop in Mesa. But up here in this area I 
would reccomend Roger's. The quality of both his service and his 
repairs are just as good as any of the other service centers, plus he 
is alot closer! I have no affiliation, I'm just a very satisfied 
customer! Garden Grove is closer, but if there's a waiting list 
there, Vegas may acctually be quicker. Check around first.

Roger's Auto Repair
201 N. Mojave Rd.
Las Vegas, NV. 89101
(702) 598-3773

-Robert
vin 6585




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, thai vu <thaiqvu_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> The closest DMC service is in Garden Grove, Orange
> County.  It's Don Steger's; he only repair Deloreans
> and has excellent customer service.  His number is
> 714-554-6794.  His customers are all over the US,
> mostly in close by states (Arizona, Nevada, Utah,
> Oregon,...)




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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:31:44 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: re: Pleasant Experience/DMCenter

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, comet6974_at_dml_j... wrote:
> Most people Who have dealt with Don would agree that he is a very
> pleasant man, However, Do be careful. Don's main concern is fixing 
the
> problem and getting the car moving again, not always with the right
> parts. 

You need to make sure that the prior owner thought the same way you 
do. Any service center, DeLorean to Acura to Ford, has two kinds of 
customers. The "get me rolling - cheap" kind and the "fix it right - 
money no object" kind. Some places refuse to do business with one or 
the other, some don't. Do you know what kind of customer your car's 
prior owner was? Was he getting it fixed up cheap to sell it (to you)?

At any rate, it may not be fair to judge this on a non-first-hand 
basis. 

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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:25:35 +0100
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Pleasant Experience(was Re: Delorean Image)

Don's concern is keeping cars on the road , which sometimes means short cuts
if the owners are not to rich at the time. I think its unfair to judge Don
on this event as im sure you dont know all side of events. Don helped me get
my car running and yes he used parts from his 'DMC scrap yard', but he knew
I had a tight budget.

You knew about these problems,so why buy the car, if that is not right for
your Deloreans



----- Original Message -----
From: <comet6974_at_dml_juno.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Pleasant Experience(was Re: Delorean Image)


> Most people Who have dealt with Don would agree that he is a very
> pleasant man, However, Do be careful. Don's main concern is fixing the
> problem and getting the car moving again, not always with the right
> parts. We bought our first car from a man who had the car serviced there,
> we had duct tape holding our Tail Light together, the radiator was some
> cheap brand that rusted out in less than a year (mind you we live in
> warm, and dry part of California and keep the car garaged). The gas
> struts from him were shoddy, and overall, i was left of an impression of
> him looking for a way to cut corners to save a buck. Which you know what,
> Just isn't right for my Deloreans
>
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:44:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>
Subject: Re: DMC12 Wanted

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Louie Golden wrote:

> >"watch e-bay"
>   Sorry- I know this is a little off subject, but I would not buy a
> DeLorean I can't see and touch. 

Could always do what I did. Call up the person who has the car on auction,
and ask to see it. I looked at it this way: I'm preparing to drop several
thousand dollars on a car. What's a few hundred on air fare? I drove 3
DMCs before I settled on the one I take delivery on in a 11 days. 

One local to me; nice car, but wrong color interior. One I saw on ebay;
flew out to San Francisco, crashed with a friend for a night, drove the
car around SF the next morning, crashed in SF again that night, left the
next day. That car had twin turbos on it, but seemed a bit flaky to me
(granted I don't know how a turbo DMC is /supposed/ to behave, but there
you are).  3rd one had an ad listed at the dmcnews website. Flew to see
it. Liked it. Sent the owner a certified check for the car when I got back
home.

And in 11 days, I fly down to pick my car up from DMC Houston and drive
back. Mmmm...roadtrip.....

--noah, chomping at the bit

VIN 2867


"Where's my fruit cup?" "Behind the bison."
                        -- Kevin & Kell (Sept 22, 1995)




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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:50:44 -0500
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Autofest

It was a great show! We had 11 DeLoreans lined up at one point on Saturday.
On Sunday morning Dennis Gage (host of My Classic Car) met us at the gate
and asked if we had seen the local paper that morning. We made the front
page of the Local section. A shot through the open doors of a number of the
cars. Later Dennis came by with the camera crew and filmed a short
sequence. I'll have details and pics on the club web site in a day or two
(I'm editing the digital shots tonight) and will post a short note to the
list when they are there.

Rachel, I don't recall if I met you. I probably did, but didn't get your
name. Glad you enjoyed it!

Mark Noeltner
Webmaster for Mid-State DeLorean Club
http://www.midstatedmc.com/

At 05:59 PM 10/14/00 EDT, you wrote:
>    Hello everyone! I would like to take the time to thank everyone that
made 
>an effort to the Autofest 2000. That was an experience I will never forget. 
>The D's were beautiful. Also to the guys that I met ( I dont know if you
want 
>me to give your names out or not?) you were really cool. I know that I acted 
>like I had a half a brain but it was my first DeLorean experience. Thank you 
>for putting up with me!! 
>
>                                                 Rachel



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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:16:30 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re Dash Mat

In a message dated 10/15/00 11:08:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dherv10_at_dml_aol.com writes:

<<  I used a dash mat for a while and it turned the dash a brown 
 color. >>

Yeah... me too!  :(

-Wayne
11174



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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:42:02 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: re: Pleasant Experience/DMCenter

Fellow DMCer's.
It was after a conversation with Don that I decided to buy my D. This after 
talking to a man who took time for a 45 min conversation, knowing that I was 
not having my car serviced at his shop. (I was in TN, he in CA). He took the 
time to answer my questions and offered great insight into what to look for 
as far as repairs, etc... This information along with his attitude towards a 
stranger is why I have a Delorean now. I was lucky enough to meet him in 
Cleveland and thank him in person, ( 5 years later). As far as his repairs I 
have not had my car that far west yet, but I would not think twice about 
using his shop. He knows what he is talking about and is willing to share 
that info with anyone. Honesty in today world is to be valued, that being the 
case Don is a man that can be trusted to do right by you and your car.
Bruce Battles
Vin# 06569



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