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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 28

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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Stainless labels and other things...
From: "Jack and Virginia Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_mail.tds.net>

2. Gray "Scotchal" Stripe
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

3. Re: Stainless labels and other things...
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

4. Re: Other questions
From: "Dave Price" <davep_at_dml_stprint.com>

5. Re: muffler heat shield
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

6. Hold Your Calls
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

7. Re: door adjustment
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

8. Re: metal overflow bottle
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

9. clock
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: Maintenance Questions
From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

11. Re: Re:blower motor Digest Number 24
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

12. Heat Shields
From: "Michael G. Fischer" <michael.fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com>

13. Re: Blower Motor Reversed??
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219_at_dml_one.net>

14. (unknown)
From: Kevin & Ann Miller <kamiller_at_dml_gci.net>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:14:21 -0400
From: "Jack and Virginia Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Stainless labels and other things...

Not to get too far off this thread, but my vin 3461 has the dash clock and
the Craig radio with the clock in the face.
I also have the labels that were for sale on ebay.  They are installed in my
car, but if you can find them, they look great.


Jack Stiefel
DMC Vin: 3461
New York Lic: 1981 DMC
Visit our DeLorean site at www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Stainless labels and other things...


> .The late '81's had a Craig radio with a clock in the tape deck door. This
> change happened around vin # 6158. I'm not sure how many of Craig radios
> with the clock ended up being installed.
>
> Bruce Benson
>
>
> > Also, I do not have the usual clock next to >the dash light
> > dimmer. Is this the way it is supposed to be? I mean there isn't even a
> > hole. All the DeLoreans I have seen before had the clock. Any ideas? >
> > Sean
> > VIN 7003
> >
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:10:46 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Gray "Scotchal" Stripe

I know that alot of people have been wondering what the Scotchal 
stripe looks like (the thin gray one). If you go to DMC Houston's web 
site, there is a picture of a car that has one. Just go 
into "Performance", and then look under lowering. The car with the 
stock highth has the stripe on it. The stripe goes from the front
fenders to the quarter panels, but doesn't touch the facias. And it 
also has the DMC logo under the side vents. Hope this helps answer a 
long running question!

-Robert
vin 6585



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:22:29 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Stainless labels and other things...

I think we've all discovered that many cars have one or the other of the
Craig radios. The parts manual lists the cutoff for the counsel clock as vin
# 6158. I'm sure any radios replaced at the quality assurance centers or by
previous owners were of the clock in the tape deck door variety. I think the
thread has about run it's course so I'm killing it.

Bruce Benson, this weeks moderator

> Not to get too far off this thread, but my vin 3461 has the dash clock and
> the Craig radio with the clock in the face.
> I also have the labels that were for sale on ebay.  They are installed in
my
> car, but if you can find them, they look great.




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:29:39 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep_at_dml_stprint.com>
Subject: Re: Other questions

The front speakers in the dash are standard 3" (3.5"?) round speakers, the
rear speakers are 4x10, and kindof a pain to get to...  You'd be better off
putting a couple 6x9 boxes on the back shelf or some other speaker idea...
I fabricated a new back wall and installed 6x9's flush-mount ... they're
crappy old speakers and they sound better than any 4x10's I listened to.
I've also heard of folks using different sized speakers in the dash by
fastening bigger speakers upside down or something... The delorean is so
noisey inside it seems pretty useless to go overboard with the audio...
unless you like to listen to your music when you aren't driving..... I went
through about 6 rolls of Dynamat and 10 cans of wheel-well coating before I
gave up... good luck ;)

As far as the night illumination on the gauges... it apparenly isn't a giant
concern of the majority of the people on the list... I think it's one of the
car's largest weak-spots... maybe my night-vision isn't as keen as everyone
else (or I live in a darker part of the world?) hehe....  I tried replacing
all of the bulbs in the binnacle with the brightest bulbs I could find...
(although I haven't tried halogen yet.. kinda afraid I'd melt something)....
I'll most likely give up and buy a digital gague cluster from
dakotadigital.com or construct my own mad scientist idea... maybe we could
start a "poorly lit gauge" support group?

wheeeeeeee!
- Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 9:07 AM
Subject: [DML] Other questions


>
> Group,
>
>         What are the exact sizes of the rear speakers in the DeLorean. I
> know the fronts are 4x10 just like my Fiero. Also, I know there was a
thread
> on this, but what is the best way to illumintae your speedo and other
gauge
> faces at night. That dinky light isn't enough! any help would be great!
> Thanks!
>
>
> Best Wishes,
> Sean Spurlock
> VIN 7003
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:45:47 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <dmcvegas_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: muffler heat shield

I know this may sound kind of dumb, but what exactly is causing the 
asbestos to break down? Are the shields breaking because of the force 
of the wind & car vibrations, or is it water? Granted my car only has 
20,030 miles on it, but it has also spent it's entire life in the 
desert. On my car the asbestos is hard to the touch, and doesn't 
flake. But on other cars where it did break apart easily, they were 
all in wetter climates. If water is the culprit, then I'll probably 
just stick w/the asbestos. (Note: The only damage to the shields on 
my car is from an unknown mechanic that the previous owner went 
through. Studs on a Volvo water pump punctured through durring the 
installation) Thanks again.

-Robert
vin 6585

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I'll try and get pics of the shredded heat shield. I just ordered 
the PJ 
> grady replacement. It looks like a belt broke and just shredded the 
shield. 
> Asbestos was all over the engine, and I am still trying to clean it 
all up. 
> I have no idea how long it has been like this since I just bought 
the car 
> last weekend. Thanks guys!!!
> 
> Sean
> VIN 7003
> 
> 



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:13:16 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Hold Your Calls

To All List Members,

I will be in New Orleans Thursday 4/27 to Monday 5/1, please hold your
questions and comments until I return. Thanks DMC Joe

If you are in or around New Orleans during these dates and would like to share food, drink, and DeLorean "talk" give me a call at my hotel 504 366-8531.
 
"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.
  


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:40:08 -0400
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: door adjustment

The first thing I would suggest you do is put some white grease on both door
pegs. Now close the door, once only please. Open the door and see if the
latch is in fact hitting in the middle of each peg. If not, shim the peg with
horseshoe shims. (I had to shim my front peg about 3/16")

DO NOT attempt to remove the peg by totally unscrewing it, the back plate
will fall behind the pontoon.

Each peg has about a 1/2 inch movement for adjustment. Start by loosening
each peg and move to the full top center position and retighten. Close the
door again and check the fit to the rest of the front and rear body panels.
Adjust the pegs accordingly.

Generously grease the latch when you have completed the adjustment.

Dave Sontos
VIN 02573

Sean Spurlock wrote:

> Group,
>
>         Both my doors catch when they close. It takes a very hard slam to
> shut the drivers side door. What can I do to adjust this? I am used to
> adjusting conventional doors, so any help would be nice!



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:58:09 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: metal overflow bottle

In a message dated 4/26/00 5:45:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

<< Need to replace my header bottle. Which is the best place to buy one 
 from? >>

I got mine from PK Grady.  It's stainless steel and it looks great!  Just be 
careful not to scratch it when you install it.  It's not hard to install.  I 
replaced my ... (shoot, I forget what it's called...) the wrist sized 
metallic hose that runs along it, at the same time.  Since it looked 
terrible... rust and all.  And installed a bleeder kit from the thermostat 
housing to the bottle.  I'm not a skilled mechanic, but these were all very 
easy to do. 

-Wayne
"Living the dream!"
VIN...11174


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:06:53 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: clock

6569 has the clock in the console, radio has station disply ( before the 
ribbon died.
Bruce Battles
Vin# 6569


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:29:12 CDT
From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Maintenance Questions

Joe,

     My only objections to the original heat shield is that it is asbestos, 
and look ugly...I want to dress up my engine compartment. Can you paint 
them? I ordered one from grady before I knew you offered them. I would very 
much like to do business with you in the future. Thanks for all your help 
Joe!!

Sean
7003
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:04:25 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re:blower motor Digest Number 24

Be aware that this "made by the millions" GM blower will run backwards when
installed in a DeLorean.

NOTE: I will be in New Orleans Thursday 4/27 to Monday 5/1, please hold your
questions and comments until I return. Thanks DMC Joe

"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Claude Landi <cbl302_at_dml_msn.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:19 PM
Subject: Fw: Re:blower motor [DML] Digest Number 24


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Claude Landi <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
> Date: Monday, April 24, 2000 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re:blower motor [DML] Digest Number 24
>
>
> >Those blower motors were made by the millions,it is a Delo-Remy part for
> all
> >air-conditioned General Motors cars made in the 1980's,just go to any
auto
> >parts store or salvage yard and you can buy a used one for about
> $15.00.> >Claude
> >000570




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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:54:36 -0700
From: "Michael G. Fischer" <michael.fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com>
Subject: Heat Shields

  Regarding the asbestos heat shields...

  When I purchased my 'D' the heat shields were a little rough .. (okay
the big flat one had a hole in it, the catalytic one was a little
frayed...)  the  edges were indeed hard, but in the center, by the
pulley where the hole was ... they were soft ... quite possible from
water..

  Anyway, I purchased both heat shields from DMC Houston, the catalytic
on was the same asbestos material, but the other was a different,
thinner, stiffer, metallic-looking material.

 Don't know what it was though (James??) ... but I like it....


Michael.Fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com
Manager, Software Development, Dittybase Inc.
www.dittybase.com



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:55:02 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219_at_dml_one.net>
Subject: Re: Blower Motor Reversed??

I think that if you will check the various models of the Delco blower
motor you will find that for some vehicles they run clockwise and for
others they run counter-clockwise e.g.. Buick vs Chevrolet.  The
discussion over modification isn't really necessary if you pick the
right model.  Having said this and put myself at risk of attack, I don't
have the specific part numbers.  I did replace mine several years ago &
went through the same search for a solution. (Before I discovered that
there were 2 genders of motor).

Richard



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:10:10 -0800
From: Kevin & Ann Miller <kamiller_at_dml_gci.net>
Subject: (unknown)

The group,
 Well this weekend marks the first car show for the Alaskan show car
season and its the first time a Delorean is in it. I finally got it all
clean up and ready to show, wish me luck. I'll post after the results
after the show.
        kevin
        vin 4556



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