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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 292

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Tires
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

2. Re: Re: throttle/PROBLEM FIXED
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

3. Re: Digest Number 290
From: surfcity45_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: throttle/frequency valve sticking
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

5. Re: Idle speed regulator question.
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

6. Re: Fuel Pump Banjo Screw
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

7. Engine Suspension Upgrade Questions
From: Willie Mack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

8. Dash Replacement update
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

9. Re: Tires
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

10. Re: Hot Start Problem
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. Re: fuel sender (was A Few Questions)
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: Dash Replacement update
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

13. Die-Cast DeLorean 1/18 scale model - looking for who makes it
From: sulfurfury_at_dml_aol.com

14. DeLorean Mousepads on Ebay!
From: "ian" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

15. 1981 DeLorean For Sale
From: Jon Kudelka <jfkudelka_at_dml_yahoo.com>

16. Lambda ECU
From: mkeenly_at_dml_earthlink.net

17. scedt26t7bd001265 and overheating
From: bduncan_at_dml_visualmining.com

18. 160 mph face question...
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

19. gasket for catalytic converter
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

20. Re: DeLorean Mousepads on Ebay!
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

21. Re: Die-Cast DeLorean 1/18 scale model - looking for who makes it
From: "Rob Hook" <robhook_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

22. Re: gasket for catalytic converter
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

23. Re: 160 mph face question...
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

24. Of Master Cylinders & Danrc30
From: "Ben Maxwell" <ben_at_dml_benmaxwell.com>

25. Dash replacement Update..GOOD NEWS!!
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 17:19:18 -0600
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Tires

Oversteer is when the rear end is sliding out. You steer a certain amount,
but the back wheels move over causing you to turn as though you had put a
lot more steering input in. So it oversteers.

Understeer means that the car doesn't turn as much as you want it to. The
front wheels slide forward even if you steer more.

It applies to all cars.

Mark N
VIN 6820

At 12:19 PM 11/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Could someone define what the terms 'over steer' and 'under steer' mean when
>applied to the Delorean? 



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:56:30 EST
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: throttle/PROBLEM FIXED

Hello again,
    Thanks for the help Mr Teitelbaum, you were right! but not first:).  Nick 
Pitello helped me out earlier today and we found the problem.  The 3 screws 
on the intake were almost completely backed out all the way.  I turned them 
all in and now the car runs much better. It still needs a new 02 sensor, 
tomorrows project is getting the old one out.  what should I put on the 
threads when installing the new one?
    
Thank You all, I really appreciate it.
David
#2496



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:19:10 EST
From: surfcity45_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Digest Number 290

       If anyone out there is looking for a Delorean along with many, many 
spare parts, I am going to sell mine.  It is VIN # 00568.  It has been in dry 
storage for over 10 years.  I drove it for three years and it had 17K miles 
on when I got it from the seized vehicle auction.  It was at the training 
facility in Irvine, California.  It is and was well maintained and is 
mechanically sound; no dents; excellent black interior.
       The majority of the parts I have will be pictured at: 
http://hometown.aol.com/surfcity45/myhomepage/business.html. 
by 7pm (PST) Friday evening, the 10th of Nov. (right now, I have only the two 
doors shown).  I would like to get $25,000 for everything however, it is 
negotiable.
       Thanks to all for the Delorean forum.  It has proven to be 
exceptionally interesting and valuable.

       Vic Stewart
       #00568   


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:46:40 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: throttle/frequency valve sticking

David,

When the idle speed is high pull the plug off of the idle speed motor and
see if the idle drops; let me know the result.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 5:03 PM
Subject: [DML] throttle/frequency valve sticking


> Hello,
>     I have a little problem here.  When I drive my car and shift the RPMs
go
> way up like I still have my foot on the gas but I don't.  



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:29:15 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Idle speed regulator question.

Robert,

There are three versions of the Bosch idle speed motor. Although they look
different they all operate under the same specifications. The factory
installed version found in all DeLoreans was finished in black specifically
for the DeLorean application.

The condition you are describing has nothing to do with the idle speed
motor, if the idle speed drops excessively than the throttle stop screw is
out of calibration.

The Bosch model number for all versions is the same i.e.: 0 280140 500
there, is an additional number i.e.: 146 for black (early) and 745 for gold
(late).

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Rooney <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 5:23 PM
Subject: [DML] Idle speed regulator question.


I have a question about the idle speed regulator. On all the
DeLorean's that I've looked at, I've noticed that there are 2
versions of the idle speed regulator: A black one, and a gold/brass
colored one. On every DeLorean I've seen that has the black on
installed (including mine), the engine comes down quickly from a rev,
then dips below 700 rpm's. When the happens the engine always
shutters and almost dies. Most time it is so bad that the alternator
warning light will sometimes illuminate. On the car's w/the gold
colored units, the engine always comes down gently to it's idle and
never goes below 750 rpm's. My question is this: 1. Does anyone know
the BOSCH # for this 2nd version? 2. Which version do the parts
suppliers ship?

-Robert
vin 6585






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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:26:29 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump Banjo Screw

Jim,

The early Bosh fuel pumps had a check valve integrated into the body of the
pump, this style pump uses a standard one piece fitting (flat head). The
later style pump uses an external check valve which requires the famous
"dome nut".

FYI: the original style pump was discontinued to  a high failure rate of the
built in check valve.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Reeve <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:51 PM
Subject: [DML] Fuel Pump Banjo Screw


> Enlight of Stian's continuing problem, I was looking though the parts
> manual and got confused.  Now, I am aware that there was a change in the
> fuel pump banjo screw somewhere during the line



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:54:08 -0500
From: Willie Mack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: Engine Suspension Upgrade Questions




Hey guys i have a couple of questions on engine and suspension upgrades.
Has anyone installed a cold air intake or supercharger into their engine?
If so can you recommend any dealers.

Also has anyone installed any sway bars/ stabilizers into their Delorean?
Again any good dealers out their.

One more question i want to ask.  www.jcwhitney.com has an excellent
selection on gas struts.  They have gas struts for every car except the D.
Could any of those struts for the other cars be used in the D?

Thanks for all your help.
  Willie
 Vin 5043






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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:58:05 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Dash Replacement update

I have recieved ALOT of emails from people who are intrested in the 
Dash replacement I mentioned a few days ago here. Well here's an 
update: I CAN'T GET A HOLD OF THIS GUY! I think he works out of his 
car or something because no matter what time of the day I call his 
office I ALWAYS get a recording saying he's not in and to press 1 to 
page him. Well I paged him a few times and he called back 
once....while I was out to lunch. I am starting to feel a little 
uneasy in dealing with him if he does say he will produce them for 
us. Anway I will continue to try and get a hold of him. He is located 
in California and I am in NY.

Steve
www.dmcman.homestead.com




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:00:46 -0800
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Tires

When you turn into a corner and the car wants to continue straight more than
it wants to turn it's called understeer. Oversteer is just the oposite. In
the case of a rear engine car like the DeLorean, you have excess weight
hanging out behind the rear axle and at some point things will emulate a
pendulum and the engine will try to swing around the front wheels center
line. To fight this tendency Lotus used larger wheels and tires at the rear
along with an unusually wide track both front and rear. It works quite well
and the DeLorean takes a lot of push before the rear starts wanting to come
around. The compromise is that we have to put up with a bit of understeer.

Bruce Benson


> Could someone define what the terms 'over steer' and 'under steer' mean
when
> applied to the Delorean?  I don't mean to sound like a complete idiot (but
I
> won't deny that) but I'm not a race car driver nor a stunt driver.  Just
> what do these terms mean?  They're not in the old dictionary.
>
> Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 05:25:04 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Hot Start Problem

You are correct in saying that the cold start system shouldn't affect 
the idle. Under normal conditions if all of the components are working 
properly then you would be right. But we are dealing with a 
malfunction and do not know exactly where to start. Unplugging the 
cold start valve is a very simple troubleshooting procedure that 
anyone can do. This does not eliminate the possibility that the valve 
could be leaking in which case removing the plug will do nothing. In 
all likelyhood the problem lies in the fuel pressure regulater which 
can only be diagnosed by either direct replacement with a known good 
unit or by installing a pressure gauge and troubleshooting the fuel 
system.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



-- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> The thermo-time switch and the cold start valve have NOTHING to do 
with hot
> start problems.
> 
> The purpose of the cold start valve is to inject a little squirt of 
fuel
> into the engine to help it start ONLY WHEN THE ENGINE IS COLD and 
ONLY WHILE
> THE STARTER IS IN THE PROCESS OF CRANKING THE ENGINE.
> 
> If the thermo-time switch senses that the engine is 



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:30:47 EST
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: fuel sender (was A Few Questions)

In a message dated 11/9/00 9:23:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Buckeye99_at_dml_copper.net writes:

<< The tank sending unit(fuel gauage) only works half the time. The previous
 owner has just installed a new one within the past year from DMC Houston. Is
 their a short or maybe a loose connection? >>

Joel, you might also have gunk in your fuel sending unit sleeve, causing the 
float to stick.  I took my sender out last week in the process of cleaning 
the tank and mine was loaded with black silt. Yuk!  The unit is only two 
years old... I have the receipt from the prior owner.  But the pickup hose 
and boot are deteriorating, which is why I had it apart.  The prior owner's 
mechanic "cleaned and repaired" the tank and components (not a "real" DMC 
shop!)
You'd think with a new sender being installed, they'd at least check the 
rubber parts! Nope. I was leaking gasoline into the neck of the pump boot 
(rot) and onto the top of the sender (no seal ring!)  I've been too busy to 
finish it... the inertia switch had been bypassed too... but I'll rinse out 
my sender with gas before I button it up for good.  

-Wayne
vin 11174
The New DeLorean Manuals Project



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:58:17 -0500
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Dash Replacement update

We have just received the first sample of a similar "snap-on" dash 
cap for the DeLorean. It is made in the USA and has been in 
development for some time. We are just now in the phase where we are 
determining pricing based on anticipated quantities. I expect they 
will be available in February or March in both grey and black.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

>I have recieved ALOT of emails from people who are intrested in the
>Dash replacement I mentioned a few days ago here. Well here's an
>update: I CAN'T GET A HOLD OF THIS GUY



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:45:23 EST
From: sulfurfury_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Die-Cast DeLorean 1/18 scale model - looking for who makes it

I remember reading on here about someone who was putting together 1/18 scale 
DeLorean models out of stainless steel like the real DeLoreans.  This person 
was putting them together by hand and was a contributor to this mailing list. 
 If this person is still around, I am interested in getting one of these 
models.  Please email me directly if you are here!

Thanks
-sf-




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:59:25 +0800
From: "ian" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: DeLorean Mousepads on Ebay!

DMCers,

I have just received a DeLorean mousepad bought on Ebay from a 'repeat
advertiser/seller' ("Custom Mousepads & Address Labels") ... my advice to
other DMLers is don't bother!

This product is terrible in my humble opinion. The image of the DeLorean is
extremely blurred (a very poor scan!), the colour is terrible, the rubber
pad is also badly cut and scruffy. This item was only $7 but is a complete
waste of $$$.

I thought it was the same as one I saw previously ... maybe supplied by one
of the DMC shops (?) or Clubs.

Any other buyers agree or disagree?

Cheers,          IAN(HongKong)
*************************




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:53:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Kudelka <jfkudelka_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: 1981 DeLorean For Sale

Hello,

I have a 1981 manual trans. with gray interior for
sale.  It has just under 13,000 original miles on it
and has been garage kept.  Included are all manuals
and a cover.  I am located in the Northwest suburbs of
Chicago, IL.  The only reason I am selling it is
because I really need the money, the car runs great. 
Please email me with any questions.

Thanks for reading,
Jon Kudelka
jfkudelka AT yahoo.com

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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:02:58 -0000
From: mkeenly_at_dml_earthlink.net
Subject: Lambda ECU

I just purchased a used Delorean Lambda ECU and I'm trying
to adapt it for use in my Renault R5 Turbo (grey-market).
Since both these cars use the Bosch K-Jetronic system,
I think it'll be doable.  Unfortunately, I don't have a
pinout for the ECU connector or a section of the wiring
that includes the connector.  Any help or suggestions would
be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike Keenly
San Jose, CA




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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:05:11 -0000
From: bduncan_at_dml_visualmining.com
Subject: scedt26t7bd001265 and overheating

Does anybody have any info on this car?  It was
apparently in Allentown, PA for some time.

This car is for sale by a small dealership in PA
and the salesman/owner of the place doesn't know
much about the car (he just purchased the dealership,
cars and all) but he knows that it overheats.

I know we have covered this on the list many times,
but I just want to be sure I know what the possible
causes are:
1. Hoses
2. Air in system
3. Plastic coolant overflow tank

Thanks!
Bruce





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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:20:59 -0500
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: 160 mph face question...

I just received a dash with a 160mph face. I'd like to use it, but the mileage on the odometer doesn't match my car. Is there any way that I can swap the odometers from the two dashes I have? I'm usually the one to just jump right into this one head first, but I figured I'd ask to make things a bit easier. Thanks in advance for any help.

---Dan


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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:42:43 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: gasket for catalytic converter

Once a catalytic converter is removed from a car, does this destroy the
gasket or is the gasket reuseable?  If not reuseable, then is it possible to
buy one locally?  Or cut one out from a sheet of material?

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:54:57 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Mousepads on Ebay!

Anyone out there with a color inkjet printer can make the mouse pad 
themselves. All you need is a white mousepad and special "iron on" 
transfer ink jet paper. Print ANY Delorean image to the special paper 
then put it ontop of the white mouspad and Iron it on. Viola 
instant "custom" mousepad. I have done it with other pictures (of 
people) and it comes out good. 

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "ian" <ian_at_dml_n...> wrote:
> DMCers,
> 
> I have just received a DeLorean mousepad bought on Ebay from 
a 'repeat
> advertiser/seller' ("Custom Mousepads & Address Labels") ... my 
advice to
> other DMLers is don't bother!
> 



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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:41:19 -0800
From: "Rob Hook" <robhook_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Die-Cast DeLorean 1/18 scale model - looking for who makes it

Sf,

I had talked about doing this a LONG time ago (about four years ago?) and
had started on the project with my grandfather who is a retired model
builder.  We did some research and found that forming the ss would be very
difficult for us due to the extremely low radius angles in a model that
small, if I remember correctly.  I only posted about it once and didn't get
any response anyway so I never pursued it any further.  I then worked with
All American Models briefly on getting the replacement stock parts to
convert the BTTF models to stock DeLoreans made but my response from the
builder indicated he wasn't really interested anyway unless I fronted a LOT
of money for the rest of the group.  I think that deal eventually happened
under someone else's leadership.  And now the situation with Lee's
models...man...this is a mess.

--Rob Hook


----- Original Message -----
From: <sulfurfury_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 7:45 AM
Subject: [DML] Die-Cast DeLorean 1/18 scale model - looking for who makes it


> I remember reading on here about someone who was putting together 1/18
scale
> DeLorean models out of stainless steel like the real DeLoreans



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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:00:25 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: gasket for catalytic converter

It generally destroys it. Buy a new one - less than $5 from your 
friendly DMC place. You can't really cut one yourself, kind of hard 
to buy metallized asbestos sheet. Plain cork or paper gasket material would not last the trip around the block. 

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> Once a catalytic converter is removed from a car, does this destroy 
the
> gasket or is the gasket reuseable? 
> Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:20:52 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: 160 mph face question...

A 160mph face? I would love to see some pictures of this as I have 
never even heard of it before.  I've heard of, and seen in person the 
original 85mph, and the original 140mph, (yea, original, there was 
one at the Cleveland show!).  I have also seen DMC-Houston's 170mph, 
Marty Mier's 140mph vinyl reproduction, and the original Canadian 
240kph.  I dont know much about how the speedometer works, or how to 
adjust the odometer.  However I think it would be possible to remove 
the faces on the two speedos, swap them, and get them re-calibrated.  
That way you technicaly still have your original speedo with accurate 
mileage, but you just have a different face on it.  But most of all I 
would like to see some pictures of this 160!!!!

Jim Reeve
'81 DeLorean - #6960
http://www.dmcultra.com - (Will be up soon!)
AIM - Ultra2169

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I just received a dash with a 160mph face. I'd like to use it, but 
the mileage on the odometer doesn't match my car. Is there any way 



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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:02:00 -0000
From: "Ben Maxwell" <ben_at_dml_benmaxwell.com>
Subject: Of Master Cylinders & Danrc30

I have recently been exposed to some of the grand teachings of sensei 
Dan...  As few of us discovered on the RI trip, Dan is an 
interesting guy, but how many of you know that he bleeds stainless 
steel?

When I didn't get any info about the repair history of my car out of 
DMC Houston (still waiting, James!!!) I decided to heed the advice 
given to me, and flush the brake, clutch, oil, and coolant systems, 
in addition to getting a new brake m/c.  I brought my car up to Dan's 
place in Central NJ last weekend and it ended up having to stay there 
a few days.  He went way, way, beyond the call of duty in helping me 
out with not only the brake m/c, but the clutch m/c (which was a
bitch to do), he put a self-bleeder in the coolant system, and 
generally took the bull by the horns and kicked major ass for me.

Quick suggestions for other owners: the non-resevior (sp?) brake m/c
i 
receieved from carparts.com was a waste.  We had a bitch of a time 
swapping the resevior, and the it leaked like a $3 -- nevermind.   
Check the status of your fluids constantly -- the cluch system looked 
like Montezuma's Revenge -- UGLY!  And teflon fuel hoses can handle 
brake fluid (we were told).

Thanks Dan -- you rock, bro.

ben
(hey dan: VIN#06976!)





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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:55:55 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Dash replacement Update..GOOD NEWS!!

Ok, I got a hold of Advanced Aftermarket Solutions about a snap in 
Dash Replacement. After speaking to the owner here is the info I 
received:

The dash is a high quality dash replacement (with a simulated leather 
look). The dash board replacements are guaranteed. They can be made 
in any color of your choice. Now here's the best part.....it will 
only cost $95.00 for the entire replacement dash in black ($15 
additional for gray or any other color)!. I think this is an 
excellent deal. 

Now here's the catch: the company is located in CA, they need a GOOD 
dash & binnacle (instrument housing) that is taken out of a car to 
take measurements from, to draw plans and make a mold. They guarantee 
that nothing will happen to the dash and binnacle and that it will 
return in the same exact condition as it was sent to them. They also 
need a minimum of 100 orders to make this. If all goes well they can 
start making/delivering the replacement dashes by the first of the 
year. Is there ANY Delorean owner in the Palo Alto, CA area (it's 
where they are located) that has a good dash & binnacle they can lend 
them? Or is there any D owner that can ship it to them? I would send 
them mine, but the binnacle is VERY badly cracked and the dash is not 
in the best condition. 

Please anyone who is interested in this (pass the word along to other 
owners not on the DML) or can spare to send a dash and binnacle to 
them email me privately at srubano[at]optonline.com I also need 
feedback from anyone who is interested in how you would like it 
manufactured. I was thinking of having them make it all one piece 
(binnacle and dash together). Or maybe everyone would like it to be 
two pieces (binnacle and dash separate)? I figured a one piece design 
would have a cleaner look to it. As for the glove box, I will see if 
they can make a cap for it for anyone that needs to repair a cracked 
glove box lid.

If I can't get a 100 piece order guarantee, then I will see if maybe 
one of the Delorean parts dealers would like to make that guarantee 
and sell the product through them. Doing this will raise the price a 
bit for them to cover their expenses. 

They are very interested to manufacture this but they need a min of 
100 orders for the price they are selling it for to cover the cost of 
designing it and making the molds.

I will post updates on the DML or you can visit my website for 
details. (I will have evrything on my site by tonight)

Thanks,
Steve





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