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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Memorabilia for Sale: ADULT DeLorean Videos!
From: "Dave Stragand" <>

2. Re: Ceramic Coating the Exhaust system
From: "Steve Rubano" <>

3. Re: Lambda System
From: " " <>

4. Erratic Idling on warm-up. HELP.
From: Declan Kelly <>

5. Interior Question
From: "Derric Clark" <>

6. Re: Re: Road noise

7. Re: Re: New Subject
From: "Walter" <>

8. Diode in Lock Module
From: Jim Reeve <>

9. Re: Material on Rear Package Shelf
From: "Robert Rooney" <>

10. Classic Car Magazine UK
From: "chris" <>

11. Door Guides Tip
From: "Stian Birkeland" <>

12. Re: Re: door locks
From: "DMC Joe" <>

13. Re: Re:Delorean fires...
From: "Walter" <>

14. re: sparkplugs
From: "Kevin Creason" <>

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:36:10 -0500
From: "Dave Stragand" <>
Subject: Memorabilia for Sale: ADULT DeLorean Videos!

Hi All,

If you're anything like me, there are just two things you like to find
under the tree on Christmas morning -- DeLorean stuff and adult videos! 
Wouldn't it be great to combine the two?  Well now you can!

Now on sale by the V.R.F. (Vixen Restoration Fund)...

The nearly impossible to find "Backside to the Future" videos - parts I
& II.  The only adult videos I've ever heard of featuring our favorite
stainless steel wonders!  All proceeds from the sales of these videos go
towards the restoration of VIN #5927, and believe me, I'll need to sell
a lot of these videos to get her back in shape!

Admittedly it's funny the twists and turns that life's road leads you
down... I never thought I'd be restoring a DeLorean, let alone be
selling adult videos to finance the project.  However, thanks to a
charitable friend in the adult store business, I was able to acquire a
large number of these rare videos for the purpose of fund raising.

In a nutshell, these videos are explicit adult films featuring the
DeLorean.  They're spoofs of the "Back to the Future" series.

Obviously there could be much debate about the appropriateness of these
videos to the list.  However, it is a unique bit of DMC memorabilia that
a lot of people have already expressed interest in purchasing.  For
morality discussions and/or flames, please email me personally.

Full descriptions of the movies can be seen at the website listed below.

My personal opinion is that Part II is better than Part I... but get
both and decide for yourself!

Either one for $20 including shipping, or get the special "Friends of
Vixen" deal -- both videos for just $35!  What a bargain!  And all
proceeds go to a great cause -- the restoration of VIN #5927.  One could
even claim that this supports our favorite DeLorean suppliers because
I'm going to be sending nearly all of the money back to them for parts

All orders are shipped in a plain box, with only my return address for
identification.  You won't be added to any mailing lists.  No
obligation, and no salesmen will call, etc., etc.  If you have any other
questions, drop me a line.  Visit the web site for some scans of the
boxes and the order form.

Of course, you MUST be 18 to order (or 21, depending upon your area).
These films are VERY ADULT and I absolutely will not sell them to anyone
under 18.

Oh, and I now accept Visa and MasterCard through PayPal!

-Dave Stragand
Pittsburgh, PA - VIN# 5927


Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:45:41 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <>
Subject: Re: Ceramic Coating the Exhaust system

I would also like to make a comment on this....

This is THE best thing to do to your exhaust system (especially the 
manifolds) to preserve them, keep them from rotting out on you. If 
you can't afford to or even want to ceramic coat the parts, you can 
use POR-15's product that is a paint on solution. This is a different 
type of heat resistant paint since it can withstand 1400 degrees 
continuosly. Some high temp coatings only claim that it can handle up 
to a certain degree, not continuosly...meaning it will burn off if 
exposed to a certain temp for to long. It also needs to be heated to 
300 degrees to fully cure. They have two colors, manifold grey and 
Aluminum. I used Manifold grey on my Mnaifolds and let me tell you, 
they look like they were just manufactured. A small can of this stuff 
goes a LONG way. Enough to do your entire exhaust system...and it 
cost $15. I am pleased with the results and if you prep the metal 
properly, the paint will never burn off. You can paint the parts on 
or off the car, but I recomend taking them off so you can get to all 
the areas of the parts. I will post pics on my site if anyone is 


My 2 cents worth 


Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:48:27 -0000
From: " " <>
Subject: Re: Lambda System

I for one am very interested as I am sure other members of the list 
are as to the #'s of the ic that was bad and the replacement. Also was 
the car frequently jump started or what could have been the reason for 
the failure. Which alternator does the car have, battery age, zillas, 
etc. A little history on the car could go toward solving why you had 
this failure although it could just have been a random bad part. 
Failures of the ECU are uncommon.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 

--- In, "chris" <chris_at_dml_i...> wrote:
> My Frequency valve was not working so i tested the valve using an 
ohm meter and found the reading was 2ohms which is correct according 
to the technical manual.  A friend of mind had a look at 
the ECU as he is an electronics engineer and found the IC had blown so 
50 cents later it was all fixed!!
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:27:56 -0500
From: Declan Kelly <>
Subject: Erratic Idling on warm-up. HELP.

Hi All.
When not driving my D in the winter months, I try to take it down to the
local Dunkin Donuts for a run every Sunday (If the roads are dry). But
lately I
have noticed this growing problem and concern. While my D is warming up the
idle speed is erratic, I have noticed that the upper and lower engine peaks
have gotten progressively worse. I like to let my D warm up before driving
(approx 5mins). I can almost tell that my D has warmed up as the pulsations
decrease in their aggressiveness. 
After she's warm all is well. 
Although I don't think of a Delorean as a she.

Q. If J. Delorean for some reason was unable to make new DMCx2. Could DMC
Houston. ?

There are no words to explain how I feel when I get behind the wheel of the
greatest car
ever made. Thanks J.D and all DMC friends.

Declan Kelly Boston MA.


Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:25:54 -0700
From: "Derric Clark" <>
Subject: Interior Question

Hello group,
I finally got a chance to drive a Delorean.  I am actually considering buying this one but I do have a question.  When we drove the car the instrument cluster shook pretty bad when we drove over a washboard gravel road.  Is this a common thing or is there a problem here.

I really enjoyed the drive and hope to join the ranks of the owners very soon.  Also, if you are an owner in Arizona could you please email me who you have it insured under?  I am looking for insurance on a driver, not the classic car stuff.

Thanks for your time,

Derric Clark
Vice President of Product Development
3D2U Media

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:28:17 EST
Subject: Re: Re: Road noise

If you look inside of the front door posts of most new cars you will see styrafoam is used for insulation.
 It is the best and cheepest way to cut down noise. You can shape it any way you want to by using an electric knife. then fitting it into the space. It can be purchased in blocks or flat sheets in any thickness. I did this in my back wall behind the seats at 1/2 inch thickness, tappering of to nothing at the top where the storage compartment started. 
If you feel that you want to go upscale you can always buy the black foam insulation that are used on piping inside of houses. It costs more and is heavier but will do a little better job. It comes in flat sheets as well but is a lot harded to cut to fit.


Message: 7
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:54:22 -0500
From: "Walter" <>
Subject: Re: Re: New Subject


I have coated the insides of body panels of two cars before with NAPA
rubberized undercoat and it made a big improvement in the amount of road
noise.  I haven't done it with the Delorean because I'm affraid of 'messing
it up'.  If you ever have to heat the metal to take a dent out, then it
would make a big smokey mess.  It was interesting parking my Chevy
convertible next to one just like it and knocking my knuckles on my fender
and then doing the same thing to the other guy's fender.  The sound
deadening effect was very noticeable.

Walt    Tampa, FL


Message: 8
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:17:15 -0600
From: Jim Reeve <>
Subject: Diode in Lock Module

I currently have my lock module taken apart to "upgrade" the internal
relays in it.  While I was looking over all of the electronics, I
noticed a yellow diode that was looking pretty bad.  I checked the
wiring diagram on the DMCNEWS tech page...
Only to find this diode (D4) unmarked as to it's properties.  Do any you
electronic experts out there know what the purpose of this diode is for,
and what type it is?  I am somewhat familiar working with electronics,
so I know how to replace it if I had the proper replacement.  However,
since I'm no electrical engineer I'm baffled as to the purpose it
serves.  It is directly connected to the positive and negative inputs to
the unit, so I'm guessing that is why it has taken such a beating. 
Thanks for any input.
Jim Reeve <Ultra>
'81 DeLorean-#6960


Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:20:13 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <>
Subject: Re: Material on Rear Package Shelf

I know the material that you are talking about. It does the very same 
thing on my car (27,000 miles). My only guess as to what it's for is 
to keep the carpet on top from sliding off since it's rubberized. 
Since the black stuff on my car is cracking too, and the padding 
below could be better I've been thinking about replacing both. I was 
thinking about using regular carpet padding with maybe some rubber 
spray for making beliners in trucks to simulate the black stuff. 
Although I don't know if that would work the same as the current 
padding to help isolate the noise from the engine...

vin 6585 (The DeLorean form hell.)

--- In, "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> My car has 9,500 miles on it and is totaly original.  The rear 
> package shelf has a material on it, under the carpeting 
that "cracks" 
> every time I touch it!  I would like to replace it but I do not 
> what it is.  Does anyone have any advise or is the part available 
> from any of the Delorean houses?
> Thanks,
> Scot
> 6452


Message: 10
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:37:12 -0000
From: "chris" <>
Subject: Classic Car Magazine UK

Look out for 'Thoroughbred & Classic Cars' January 2001 Issue as it has a 4 page article on Dave Howarth's RHD DeLorean onced owned by John Talyor from Duran Duran. Its a UK magazine but has a price for the USA, $7.95. Its a very good write up.

Chris Spratt
Vin 16327

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:00:30
From: "Stian Birkeland" <>
Subject: Door Guides Tip

Here's a little restoration tip for all - concerning the appearance of the 
door guides.

When I got my DeLorean the three screws fastening each of the four door 
guides were bad. I suspect they all came with standard steel screws (read: 
corrosion and rust)....a few screws had turned brown ugly and "contaminated" 
the stainless with the brownish stain.

Since I was working inside the doors at that moment I was fortunate to 
manage to loosen the screws by having access to the screws from both ends, 
and no - they didn't come off easily with neither 5-56 or WD-40...but those 
two sprays did in fact remove the brownish stain! :)

The top pattern of the screws were very bad causing the screwdriver to 
slip...but by using the screwdriver on the one end and a firm grip tool on 
the other end of the screw, I managed after much trouble and endless hrs. to 
get the old screws out.

Then I took one of the old screws with me and went to the hardware store 
where I found correct replacements in stainless steel.

I would recommend that you check your door guides' screws and replace them 
ASAP. Remember that our beloved DeLorean is soon to be 20 years old. Wait 
too long and you wont get the screws out any other way than by drilling them 
out. Not something you would prefer to do. If you are lucky and the screws 
are not jammed, you will manage to get the screws out simply by using a 
screwdriver. The sooner you replace them with stainless ones, the better!

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland

VIN # 06759
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:03:49 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <>
Subject: Re: Re: door locks


If you can get a hold of a copy of Stainless Steel Illusion got to the top
of page 50 to see a picture of Johnny sitting in one of the original
prototypes. A short byline tells you of his investment into the company and
the failure of his Ducellier alternator.

"We're here to help you"
Seasons Greetings!

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <>
Web Site: (TEMPORARY)<>

----- Original Message -----

> Mike wrote:
> As I recall, Johnny Carson also had trouble with his alternator.  How do
> know about this? 


Message: 13
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:11:36 -0500
From: "Walter" <>
Subject: Re: Re:Delorean fires...


Just last week I put my finger on fuse #7 and noticed it was getting too hot
to touch.  I had cleaned it before, but that just wasn't enough.  I replaced
it, and it runs cool now.  Let me know when you get the RPM relay
modification done.  I'll be interested in that.

At a car show a while back a vendor was selling boxes full of relay sockets
just like what is used in the Delorean.  I should have bought some.  I
didn't buy any because I wasn't sure if they were the right ones.  I only
had the car for a few weeks by that time and wasn't too familiar with it.
I'll be sure to check for that vendor again next year.  He said the
sockets/wiring looms were meant to go on ambulances to run all the lights.

Anyway, I think it would make a real neat job if any relays added were
attached to the other relays to make it look like it was meant to be there.
Are those sockets easily obtainable or are they hard to find?

Walt    Tampa, FL


Message: 14
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:47:29 -0600
From: "Kevin Creason" <>
Subject: re: sparkplugs

Kevin Creason wrote:
> John Hervey wrote:
> > HR6DC
> > for the purest, HR7DC little hotter, HR8DCX,HR9DC,and HR10DCX the
> > hottest, all of these are $2.50ea and will be on the web site soon.
What do you mean, "purest"?
Ok- let's use my driving for example: daily, on an average day 40-50 mph tops, 10 miles or less.
A couple times a week on the freeway up to 80, 15 miles total.
Should I be running hotter plugs? Especially if I am concerned about

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