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There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

2. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

3. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

4. re: Binnacle Lens Needed
From: David Cox <dmcox_at_dml_inetworld.net>

5. Deloreans For Sale
From: "Scott Duke" <s1lvrdo_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?
From: "ian" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

7. Holiday Greeting
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:04:07 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?

If the alternator is dead along with the battery, he might be able to 
jump start it and get it to run but the engine may stall or not run 
properly (and possibly mistaking the problem as a serious one) due to 
that the battery dosen't have a strong charge and the alternator not 
supplying any voltage. 

I don't suggest you leave the jumpers between the two cars connected 
after you get it running to test the electrical on the D since that 
will put the alternator on the other car under a higher load than it 
might be able to handle! The only way to go here if you don't want to 
buy an alternator, assuming the battery is good and will hold a 
charge, is get the battery charged at a local garage to it's full 
capacity. That should give you enough juice to start it, let it run, 
test the electrical (windows, door locks, etc) and possibly drive it 
around the block.

Steve


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "jtrealty_at_dml_w... " <jtrealty_at_dml_w...> wrote:
> Don't worry about the alternater, just get the engine started, yes 
you 
> can jump start it. Make sure you have coolant and oil pressure, try 
> the clutch and see if you can shift into all gears and check the 
> service and parking brake. Try the electrical system, windows, door 
> locks, mirrors, lights, and the engine should idle smooth without 
> hesitation. Inspect all of the glass carefully. Figure on spending 
in 
> the area of $5,000 depending on how lucky and how fussy you are 
about 
> the car. Figure a clutch, Zillas, interior parts, battery, tires, 
> shocks, c-v boots, radiator, water pump, hoses, rebuild brakes, 
door 
> struts, coolant bottle, change-out of all fluids, clutch hose, fuel 
> filter, tune-up. Depending on how much you can do yourself will 
affect 
> this estimite but for approx $15,000 it sounds like you will have a 
> nice car.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
> 
> 
> -
> -- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, bigbenb84_at_dml_a... wrote:
> > 
> >   Hey everybody,
> >       There has been a DeLorean for sale in my area (Pensacola, 
FL.) 
> since




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:16:58 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?

Ben,

So far everyone has given you some good advice, but I suggest a different
strategy.  Don't do a thing to make the car run except turning the ignition
key.  If you try to fix the car up before you buy it, then the price will go
up accordingly.  Be a consumer and not a mechanic when you negotiate a
price.  If the owner cared enough to get a better price for his car, then he
would keep it in running condition and not abandon it on some used car lot.

I would make an offer based on the fact that the car is not in running
condition and that it will (or may) take a considerable investment to make
the it run.  If the guy wants more, then ask HIM to make it roadworthy
first.

It is interesting that the car would have such high mileage.  117K?  That's
a lot for a Delorean.  If the car was able to be driven this many miles,
then it must have had extensive work done to fix most of the major Delorean
specific problems over this much time.  It is also interesting that the body
is in such good condition.  It sounds like it was owned by someone who
really took care of the car -- especially to get such high mileage out of
it.  It sounds more likely to me that the car has only 17K miles on it.

You might try to find out the history on the car.  I checked Carfax, and it
has no data available on VIN SCEDT26T0BD002144 (This is the correct VIN for
#2144)  It is typical for Carfax to not have data on cars depending on where
and when the vehicle has been registered.  Florida is very good about
getting data into Carfax, so since it's not listed, I'm suspicious that it
is not a Florida car.  Perhaps it came from a nearby state since Pensacola
is near the border.  Is there a license plate on the car?  Are there any
inspection stickers in the windshield?  Are there any papers in the car that
give some history?  Be sure to check in the hidden compartment behind the
driver's seat.  You will need the ignition key to unlock it.  There is no
telling what you may find.

Hope this helps,
Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 15:46:15 EST
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?

Ben, I don't know alot about how to get the thing running, etc., but
it doesn't sound like it would be that expensive to get it into
running condition, assuming everything else with the engine is
decent.  Although I'm not an expert on pricing, $14.5 might be a bit 
too much, but $10k sounds about right.  I only say this because I
recently bought a high mileage DeLorean for 8k, but it needs alot
of interior and some other work.  But if the interior on the one
you're looking at is pretty good, then I would say 10k for it is not
bad, and just fix other stuff as it appears.  I would make sure to 
check if the radio and the air work.  If they both do then 10k would
be a good deal.  

But again, I'm not an expert so I may be mistaken on this either way.
Just wanted to throw my two cents in, :)

Richard
     



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:45:06 -0800 (PST)
From: David Cox <dmcox_at_dml_inetworld.net>
Subject: re: Binnacle Lens Needed

>The one on my D now has what looks to be splattered >super glue. The glue probably melted the plexi a >little before it hardened making it impossible to fix 

Before you give up completely on that plastic, take a look at some of the plastic modeling web sites (try www.finescale.com as a starting point).  A common problem for aircraft models is scratches in the clear canopy pieces.  These can be sanded out - modeling sandpaper is available in grits of 1200, 2400, and even higher, IIRC.  I've never actually done this myself, I just vacuform a replacement canopy, but maybe one of the modeling sites will have some tips and techniques for you.  I do know that you can remove all but the deepest scratches this way.  If the melt spots on your plexi aren't too deep (and they should be fairly shallow), you may be able to recover your current plexi.  Of course, you'll still have to figure out how to remove it...

Dave
vin 16367



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:41:10 -0500
From: "Scott Duke" <s1lvrdo_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Deloreans For Sale

Hello fellow DML'rs ,

I have found a cuple D's for sale in my area. I live in Greenville NC  but 
came home to Franklin VA for the holidays and picked up a trader. The first 
says 1981 "like new, 17k miles 5spd, all upgrades, looks and runs like new, 
always garaged $22,000 YORKTOWN the second is also an 81'"10k miles like 
new, stock stereo, black leather, kept indoors, well maintained  $19,900  
NORFOLK VA   This one has the side stripes on the lower half judging by the 
pics.  For phone numbers email me privatley at s1lvrdo(AT)hotmail.com



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 07:04:30 +0800
From: "ian" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: Re: Found D 4 Sale....question?

Hi Ben,

My advice ... Look around for other DMCs to compare this car with! There are
always a few for sale on the DMC List web page, thye Trader mags, etc. 117k
miles is VERY high for a DeLorean! When I bought my first DMC in 1998 I was
many with only 25k to 30k miles. I bought a 100% perfect grey interior,
manual, no gas flap, '81, with 28k miles for only $10,500.oo in Los Angeles!

Cheers,                   IAN (HongKong)
                              Vins. 0780, 1205, & 6425
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:34:29 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Holiday Greeting

To All,

During this special time of the year we would like to send our best wishes
to all of the DML readers, moderators and our customers.

Special greetings go to Debbie and Rob Grady of PJ Grady DeLorean Parts and
Steven, James, and Warren of the DeLorean Motor Company for helping to make
this past year the most successful in our 16 year history.

On behalf of the DeLorean Services staff and our family's we would like to
wish
everyone a joyous, happy, and safe holiday season.

DeLorean Services
Bob, DMC Joe, and Alan

"We're here to help you"
Seasons Greetings!

De Lorean Services / <delorean_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: (TEMPORARY)<www.geocities.com/dmcjoe>






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