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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 344

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Project/Parts Car Alert
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

2. Re: Re: Courtesy Light Switch Replacement
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

3. Re: Now Okay (Car no longer running)
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

4. Re: Now Okay (Car no longer running)
From: "Robert Rooney" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

5. Re: At what point does a DeLorean become salvage.
From: Tom Huntington <TomHuntington_at_dml_delorean.com>

6. Re: Re: Now Okay (Car no longer running)
From: E Grauff <datamonk_at_dml_svn.net>

7. Vin# 19
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>

8. Red Delorean Hay Wagon
From: "scottmueller.al" <scottmueller.al_at_dml_netzero.net>

9. Vinyl and Leather interior
From: "Tyler Graves" <graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com>

10. Dealer stripe
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_jamesik.com>

11. Interior light - dimming!
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

12. London
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

13. Save my NCT's?
From: "Kevin Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

14. Courtesy Light Switches
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

15. Switch
From: sjaeger01_at_dml_aol.com

16. Re: Re: Courtesy Light Switch Replacement
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 05:10:40 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Project/Parts Car Alert

Going Going Gone. . . .I just heard from the seller - Car is sold. 
That took, what 24 hours? 

Anyone on the list get it? AFAIK it was not advertised anywhere else. 

Dave


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> I just posted this on the DMCNews forsale page at
> http://www.dmcnews.com/BuyNSell/dmcforsale.html
> 
> Location:     Edmond, Oklahoma
> Price:        $5000.00
> Gull Wing beauty, 51613 miles almost runs, leather interior, 
service manuals
> ,good tires, good condition, clear title.
> 
> Please check out the ad there and reply to the advertiser. 




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:14:00 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Courtesy Light Switch Replacement

You might want to check out our Courtesy Light Battery Saver created by DMC
Joe. This switch installs in 5 minutes; no tools required. For more details
see http://store.yahoo.com/dsvstore/batsav.html

"We're here to help you"
Seasons Greetings!

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: (TEMPORARY)<www.geocities.com/dmcjoe>

----- Original Message -----
From: David Cox <dmcox_at_dml_inetworld.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Cc: Walter <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 1:17 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: Courtesy Light Switch Replacement


> I don't know how much of a chore it would be to make this change, but
here's my idea: the light switches on the door of my Volvo have an
interesting option.  You can push them in by hand, twisting slightly, and
they will lock into place.  Pushing on them, either by hand, or by closing
the door, will unlock them.  They lock into the "off" position, so you can
work on the car without running down your batteries.  Walt, your comment
about replacing "the switch on the door post with a small hand operated
switch to save the battery" is what made me think about this.  Has anyone
ever looked at doing something like this for the D?  For those of you
working on possible replacement switches, how about adding this type of
feature?
>
> Dave
> vin 16367
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>
>




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 05:08:50 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: Now Okay (Car no longer running)

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: I'm not posting information on techniques for breaking into DeLoreans in order to avoiding such information becoming widely known. This post has been edited to remove a suggestion for breaking in.]

You mentioned getting to the fuel pump from undernieth the car.  Well, 
you cant to that, but I believe the front main harness is accessible 
and would also cut power to the pump if you can unplug it. <snip>

But what I'm really curious about is how you locked the driver's door 
to begin with.  To my knoledge, (and experimenting with several 
different Ds), the door locks do not easily lock when the doors are 
open.  And I have heard that if you do manage to lock them, the 
latches can jamb very easily if you close the door in this state.  
This is my own theory as to why the car has a "central" power locking 
system instead of a standard power system (with buttons).

Curious you know what you know!

Jim Reeve
-6960

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, E Grauff <datamonk_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> Popped the engine compartment open and pulled the coil wire.
> 
> Still would like to know what folks would have suggested.  If you do 
want
> to comment please just reply to me and I'll consolidate a list of 
what
> folks suggested.
> Thanks,
> Eric




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 04:51:19 -0000
From: "Robert Rooney" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Now Okay (Car no longer running)

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: This post edited to remove speculative information on breaking into DMC's.]

Assuming there's no leaks in the hose, you might be able to choke the 
engine by blocking the air intake & the drainage tube below. Other 
then that, opened up the louvers and engine compartment by braking 
the latch would be the quickest in an emergency. If you ever do have 
to do this again, grounding the left wire on the ignition coil would 
be alot safer to kill the engine. <snip> 

-Robert
vin 6585

p.s. If you ever have to leave the running again while you run to get 
something. Either leave the door or both windows down.



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, E Grauff <datamonk_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> Popped the engine compartment open and pulled the coil wire.
> 
> Still would like to know what folks would have suggested.  If you 
do want
> to comment please just reply to me and I'll consolidate a list of 
what
> folks suggested.
> Thanks,
> Eric




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:08:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Huntington <TomHuntington_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: At what point does a DeLorean become salvage.

 I have been watching this discussion for several days now and I have heard all the different points that people have been making about sending a DeLorean to the scrapyard. I just wanted to remind people that one man's trash is another man's treasure. There aren't going to be anymore DeLoreans (possibly) and I don't see why anyone would even consider sending a D or any other classic car to the scrapyard. If you can't restore it, then someone else can. Please don't let this or any other D get destroyed! 

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:31:34 -0800 (PST)
From: E Grauff <datamonk_at_dml_svn.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Now Okay (Car no longer running)

Turns out that the door isn't 'locked' - the rear latch comes undone when
I pull on the handle, but the front one is jammed.  I've had problems with
the drivers door in the past.  A hard bump while driving would cause it to
come part way undone and the buzzer to sound.  After I got new tires
(softer ride) and adjusted the doors a bit, this stopped.

But what happened last night did happen to me a month ago - I had to climb
out the passenger's door and for some reason use the key to lock and then
unlock the driver's door. 

Any ideas out there on just what happened?

Oh, and by the way - for all the lurkers out there, the car has been a
blast to own and drive.  Fewer problems than most of the cars I've owned -
including a 1998 car.


On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Jim Reeve wrote:

> [MODERATOR'S NOTE: I'm not posting information on techniques for breaking into DeLoreans in order to avoiding such information becoming widely known. This post has been edited to remove a suggestion for breaking in.]
> <SNIP>
> 
> But what I'm really curious about is how you locked the driver's door 
> to begin with.  To my knoledge, (and experimenting with several 
> different Ds), the door locks do not easily lock when the doors are 
> open.  And I have heard that if you do manage to lock them, the 
> latches can jamb very easily if you close the door in this state.  
> This is my own theory as to why the car has a "central" power locking 
> system instead of a standard power system (with buttons).
> 
> Curious you know what you know!
> 
> Jim Reeve
> -6960
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, E Grauff <datamonk_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> > Popped the engine compartment open and pulled the coil wire.




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:37:15 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Vin# 19

Does anybody know anything about this car?  Has anyone contacted the 
seller?  I found this on the Hemming Motors homepage

1981 DELOREAN, RED, 5,000 miles, VIN: #19, Serial #19-This was a TEST 
vehicle. Painted RED. Miles are from test drive only. Less than 5,000 
original. Owned 22 years. Recaro Seats. Collector piece. Owner's wife 
really wants to sell, make offer. $29,000 OBO. Contact: 888-692-1010 
or bumpshoplady_at_dml_aol.com -CA 




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 09:33:25 -0600
From: "scottmueller.al" <scottmueller.al_at_dml_netzero.net>
Subject: Red Delorean Hay Wagon

I just saw a Red Delorean being used to haul hay bails.

On CMT, Cledus T. Judd did a video parody of Toby Keiths "How do you like me
now".  Its titled "How do you milk a cow".

Pretty funny.

Scott Mueller
scottmueller.al_at_dml_netzero.net
1981/002981  DOA5031/DMCNEWS




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:44:07 -0000
From: "Tyler Graves" <graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Vinyl and Leather interior

Before I start putting leather conditioner on my vinyl, can someone 
please tell me which parts of the interior are real leather? I know 
it sounds silly, but I'm not sure about the door side 'fabric' and 
the center column side 'fabric' in particular. I am using the 
Meguiars line of vinyl and leather cleaners and conditioners. I've 
read some good things about them.

Tyler 
#3472




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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:33:14 -0500
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_jamesik.com>
Subject: Dealer stripe

Please help!!
As some of you might remember I was involved in an accident a few months
ago. My left front fender was crushed and is not repairable. I got a new
fender now but the problem is that my D has a wide dealer stripe. I can't
remove the stripe from the old fender and I don't want to remove it from the
whole car. So, here's my question to you: does anyone have a dealer stripe
for the left front fender ONLY? I don't need the whole thing (mainly because
they are just way too expensive), just for one fender.
Please email me directly at tomcio'AT'jamesik.com

Thanks,
Tom Niemczewski
vin 6298
tomcio_at_dml_jamesik.com





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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:59:27
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Interior light - dimming!


I mentioned this awhile back on the DML, maybe some new folks can shed a 
light on this one...

I'd like to be able to have an interior light in my DeLorean which dims.
I've seen this function on BMWs, you open the door and  the light gradually 
comes on, you exit the car, walk away and the light dims till its off. Its a 
very cool effect, and I'd like to have this function in my DeLorean.

Any suggestions/ideas on how to make this work? I would guess that you can 
keep the two interior lights yet somehow incorporate a gizmo which will make 
the interior lights dim on/off.

Best wishes for the new year,
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:42:06 EST
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: London

Hey
I was just wondering if there was any DeLorean-related stuff in London, 
England. I just kind of want to know because it looks as though I will be 
taking vacation there. I know the DeLorean factory is in Ireland, but we 
can't make it over there.

Thanks for the help,
John Feldman
VIN 4275


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:57:21 -0600
From: "Kevin Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Save my NCT's?

I'm getting my tires Friday. 
I rolled 19k today on the way home from the tire shop.
should I save those NCT's or let them be shredded into pavement? There is some tread left, but I doubt their usefulness as road tires.
Perhaps someone wants them for Concours car showing?


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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:59:27 -0500
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Courtesy Light Switches

The switches I am proposing are Proximity Switches. Proximity switches
have no moving parts and switch by Sensing metal close to it. The
sensing range of these switches is 4mm. So when you close the door of
the DeLorean, the door doesn't even touch the switch to activate. They
are completely solid state.

I have posted pictures of my installation in the vault in the Sensors
folder.




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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:29:40 EST
From: sjaeger01_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Switch

Does anyone have a working directional & wiper switch part no. 100952 that 
would sell me? Please email me privately.
Steve
sjaeger01_at_dml_aol.com



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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:41:15 EST
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Courtesy Light Switch Replacement

In a message dated 12/27/00 11:14:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net 
writes:

<< You might want to check out our Courtesy Light Battery Saver created by DMC
 Joe. This switch installs in 5 minutes; no tools required. For more details
 see http://store.yahoo.com/dsvstore/batsav.html >>

Not to promote any one product but in light of all the help and free advice 
Joe gives to our list here, I had to say this product is one of the best 
little items I ever purchased for my DeLorean.  Comes in so handy at car 
shows when you want to leave the doors up and not have the courtesy lights 
on.  Easier then unplugging the lights.  I also use it when I am not using 
the D for a while, to be sure the lights dont come on due to a loose contact, 
and run down the battery.  Yes I am sure you could make a similar item 
yourselves, but when people like Dmc Joe and others give so much of their 
time, I am happy to support the DeLorean Parts Suppliers whenever possible.  

Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
VIN 3360



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