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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Deloreans in Louisiana
From: "SteveDMC" <stevedmc_at_dml_i-55.com>

2. Thanks, Everyone
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>

3. Trailing Arm Shims
From: billschaferabn_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Fan Problem !!
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

5. I had to laugh....
From: "Rick Haslewood" <delorean_at_dml_zip.com.au>

6. Re: Wrecked DMC
From: "Claude Landi" <cbl302_at_dml_msn.com>

7. Going on a treasure hunt / X^HD marks the spot...
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>

8. Jack and handle storage
From: "World Traveller" <eurojet_at_dml_sdcoe.k12.ca.us>

9. RE: I had to laugh....
From: Gregory M Scalia <gmscalia_at_dml_gil.com.au>

10. Re: NO AIR CONDITIONING
From: "Michael D. Myjak" <mmyjak_at_dml_virtualworkshop.com>

11. cluch
From: "Archie G Hill" <ahelio1_at_dml_ixpnet.com>

12. Re: I had to laugh....
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

13. Re: Fan Problem !!
From: "Dave Price" <davep_at_dml_stprint.com>

14. Squeeling sound?
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

15. Re: Jack and handle storage
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

16. Re: NO 3rd or 4th fan speed
From: "gwells" <gwells_at_dml_totalise.co.uk>

17. Re: Squeeling sound?
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com

18. Re: Jack and handle storage
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:14:38 -0500
From: "SteveDMC" <stevedmc_at_dml_i-55.com>
Subject: Re: Deloreans in Louisiana

There is a small group of us that like to get together in the southeast.  A few live in alabama a few in mississippi and a few in louisisana.  

For more info you might want to contact Scott Mueller.  He is usually the man that takes the time to arrange the successful get togethers.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Daniel Bell 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:17 PM
  Subject: [DML] Deloreans in Louisiana


  Does anyone know of any Delorean clubs, or shows in the Louisiana area? 



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 02:35:19 -0200
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>
Subject: Thanks, Everyone

I have heard from over 20 people (at least) regarding the crunched DeLorean on e-bay. Nearly all said to stay far away!! I went to a car show here in NC today, and rode in and drove two running nice cars, so I think that is the kind I want to buy!! Buying a 20 year old wrecked car sounds like too big of a risk, so I think I will wait a while until the right car in good condition comes along for me. Again, I want to thank everyone for your opinions, I think it prevented me from making a bad mistake!!- Louie Golden


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 00:37:37 EDT
From: billschaferabn_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Trailing Arm Shims

Group,

   I am in need of as much information as possible on installing three shims 
on my passenger side rear trailing arm assembly.  The drivers side trailing 
arm assembly has three shims in it and my passenger side trailing arm has 
none.  How much effort is required to place three shims on the passenger side 
to even up the toe in on the passenger side. Has anyone done this or had this 
done to their "D". Please let me hear from you if you have.

Bill
Vin#11596


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 02:47:50 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Fan Problem !!

Felix,

Your problem is very simple to correct. You will need to replace the cooling
fan circuit breaker. Your DeLorean is probably equipped with the 35 amp
factory original. These circuit breakers have an 80% failure rate. We have
the heavy duty 40 amp replacements priced at $8.60.

If you need more info or would like to place an order let us know.

"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
770 631-4800

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From: F.S. <melvnhel_at_dml_earthlink.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 1:02 AM
Subject: [DML] Fan Problem !!


> Hello,
>
>      While driving in the hot weather yesterday I noticed that my car was
> starting to overheat so I pulled over and noticed that my fans were not
> working correctly.  They turn on but immediately turn themselves off.
> They must be on for at least 2-3 seconds before turning off and then they
> turn back on and off, very random.  I could hear a clicking noise from
> the fan and a clicking switch noise comming from the fuse box area, every
> time the fans turn on.  It seems like they want to turn themselves on but
> something is immediatley turning them off.  Solenoids Maybe??  Please if
> someone could help it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank You
>
> Felix
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:22:56 +1000
From: "Rick Haslewood" <delorean_at_dml_zip.com.au>
Subject: I had to laugh....

I just had to laugh upon reading a "letter to the Editor" in the Spring
issue of DeLorean World. For those of you who haven't received the issue
yet, let me qoute part of it to you:

"In the future, I would suggest that you examine the publishers use of
photos. It is obvious that the publisher reversed the photo on the cover. It
indicates that there might be a RHD (whatever that means) out there and we
all know there 'aint no such thing'."

I guess that means all us Aussies, Kiwis, Britons, Irishmen, Indonesians,
and about a dozen other nationalities all ride bicycles instead, huh? Tisk.
Tisk. When will some people learn that America aint the sole country of
Planet Earth?

But seriously, I'm aware the writer (whose name wasn't mentioned) was being
sarcastic in regards to Right-Hand drive DeLoreans, but it was a down-right
insult to all us RHD owners, especially Dennis Huang of Queensland, whose
beautiful DeLorean was featured on the cover of the DeLorean World that the
writer was referring to. Regardless of whether a RHD DeLorean is "factory
converted" (depending on which side of the argument you favour) or a recent
conversion, most are by no means substandard vehicles! IMO RHD DeLoreans are
a great rarity, to be respected and admired :-)

Rick Haslewood,
Sydney Australia
delorean_at_dml_zipworld.com.au
www.zipworld.com.au/~delorean/
UIN: 4316376



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 05:30:43 -0400
From: "Claude Landi" <cbl302_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Re: Wrecked DMC

On that Wrecked Delorean on Ebay,be very cautious,as the door jam(on the
black body) area is a structural area,and as such has to be repaired by
someone who has had experence on repairing fiberglass,as that area has to be
CUT OUT and replaced,you will NEVER get the orignal damaged jam back as it
was, as fiberglass does not crunch up like metal does,it tends to crack and
shatter and shift off location(structural areas)(as can be seen in the pic)
and is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to set back to its original position,hence the
reason it has to be cut out and replaced,(even the owner of that car agrees
with that,as he emailed and said so.)and then new pieces have to be
structurally molded in.....if you can do that then you can possibly get a
good deal.

Claude
000570





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:47:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>
Subject: Going on a treasure hunt / X^HD marks the spot...

Umpteen years after I noted that I had to own a D sometime in my life or
go quite, quite mad, I may actually be getting around to it (loud
cheers!). I've been keeping half an eye (well, maybe a quarter of an eye)
on the list, and saw a reference ti a chart one can use when checking out
a potential purchase. Searched the archives, but didn't come up with a
URL. Anyone have a URL?

Noah



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:39:15 -0000
From: "World Traveller" <eurojet_at_dml_sdcoe.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Jack and handle storage

I finally bought a jack handle to go with the jack that came with my 
car but now I don't know where to put them. Where are they supposed
to 
be stored in the car? Sorry if this is a dumb question!




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 23:04:38 +1000
From: Gregory M Scalia <gmscalia_at_dml_gil.com.au>
Subject: RE: I had to laugh....

Here here!

My RHD drive D is in good shape and was an excellent conversion.  

Viva la difference

GMS

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From: 	Rick Haslewood[SMTP:delorean_at_dml_zip.com.au]
Sent: 	Monday, May 22, 2000 6:22 PM
To: 	DeLorean Mailing List
Subject: 	[DML] I had to laugh....

I just had to laugh upon reading a "letter to the Editor" in the Spring
issue of DeLorean World. For those of you who haven't received the issue
yet, let me qoute part of it to you:

"In the future, I would suggest that you examine the publishers use of
photos. It is obvious that the publisher reversed the photo on the cover. It
indicates that there might be a RHD (whatever that means) out there and we
all know there 'aint no such thing'."

I guess that means all us Aussies, Kiwis, Britons, Irishmen, Indonesians,
and about a dozen other nationalities all ride bicycles instead, huh? Tisk.
Tisk. When will some people learn that America aint the sole country of
Planet Earth?

But seriously, I'm aware the writer (whose name wasn't mentioned) was being
sarcastic in regards to Right-Hand drive DeLoreans, but it was a down-right
insult to all us RHD owners, especially Dennis Huang of Queensland, whose
beautiful DeLorean was featured on the cover of the DeLorean World that the
writer was referring to. Regardless of whether a RHD DeLorean is "factory
converted" (depending on which side of the argument you favour) or a recent
conversion, most are by no means substandard vehicles! IMO RHD DeLoreans are
a great rarity, to be respected and admired :-)

Rick Haslewood,
Sydney Australia
delorean_at_dml_zipworld.com.au
www.zipworld.com.au/~delorean/
UIN: 4316376



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:53:36 -0400
From: "Michael D. Myjak" <mmyjak_at_dml_virtualworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: NO AIR CONDITIONING

Cecil Longwisch wrote:

> I was working on my car cooling fans with the engine idling and the air
> conditioning on. The compressor clutch began cycling in and out and finally
> quit and won't pull in now.
> This is a problem I have never had before! Help...
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Cecil Longwisch
> #10663
> ILDMC1982
>

Cecil -

The problem is (most likely) that your car is low on freon! I had this happen
to mine several times... usually once a year or so (due to a _Very_ slow leak
at the compressor seal(s), or so I was told). Wasn't fast enough to require
major service, but was persistent enough to cause me a problem every spring.

BTW - if you catch this, send me a point-to-point response -  or better yet,
call! I've tried emailing you directly but your email bounced.

--
All the best -
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:54:31 -0700
From: "Archie G Hill" <ahelio1_at_dml_ixpnet.com>
Subject: cluch

	may be some one can help me .  I need to replace my cluch .  I have the
parts.  My question is the manual does not address the axles .  it tells
how to remove the trans. but does not say anythingabout what to do with the
axles.  Thank you in advance.


Archie hill

vin 05395



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:26:31 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: I had to laugh....

I am almost lost for words over the arrogance and ignorance shown by some
people over this RHD issue! I have just been outside to fit a door rubber
seal on the drivers side door...and guess what? It was still on the Right
hand side of the car!..as it has been since oct 1982..

Chris  P..DOC UK  vin 12180..black manual.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Haslewood" <delorean_at_dml_zip.com.au>
To: "DeLorean Mailing List" <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:22 AM
Subject: [DML] I had to laugh....


> I just had to laugh upon reading a "letter to the Editor" in the Spring
> issue of DeLorean World. For those of you who haven't received the issue
> yet, let me qoute part of it to you:
>
> "In the future, I would suggest that you examine the publishers use of
> photos. It is obvious that the publisher reversed the photo on the cover.
It
> indicates that there might be a RHD (whatever that means) out there and we
> all know there 'aint no such thing'."
>
> I guess that means all us Aussies, Kiwis, Britons, Irishmen, Indonesians,
> and about a dozen other nationalities all ride bicycles instead, huh?
Tisk.
> Tisk. When will some people learn that America aint the sole country of
> Planet Earth?
>
> But seriously, I'm aware the writer (whose name wasn't mentioned) was
being
> sarcastic in regards to Right-Hand drive DeLoreans, but it was a
down-right
> insult to all us RHD owners, especially Dennis Huang of Queensland, whose
> beautiful DeLorean was featured on the cover of the DeLorean World that
the
> writer was referring to. Regardless of whether a RHD DeLorean is "factory
> converted" (depending on which side of the argument you favour) or a
recent
> conversion, most are by no means substandard vehicles! IMO RHD DeLoreans
are
> a great rarity, to be respected and admired :-)
>
> Rick Haslewood,
> Sydney Australia
> delorean_at_dml_zipworld.com.au
> www.zipworld.com.au/~delorean/
> UIN: 4316376
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:39:23 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep_at_dml_stprint.com>
Subject: Re: Fan Problem !!

This sounds like a low-pressure situation with your car's A/C.  When the
Delorean turns the air compressor on, it also turns the fans on... if the
air compressor doesn't have enough R12 it will turn on for a couple seconds
and shut off.  It will cycle like that continuously.  Funny thing is that
(in my car) the A/C still works, but probably at a reduced cooling
effectiveness, and could be damaging to the compressor.  Get yourself a R12
fill up, and maybe have them check for leaks.

- Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "F.S." <melvnhel_at_dml_earthlink.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:02 PM
Subject: [DML] Fan Problem !!


> Hello,
>
>      While driving in the hot weather yesterday I noticed that my car was
> starting to overheat so I pulled over and noticed that my fans were not
> working correctly.  They turn on but immediately turn themselves off.
> They must be on for at least 2-3 seconds before turning off and then they
> turn back on and off, very random.  I could hear a clicking noise from
> the fan and a clicking switch noise comming from the fuse box area, every
> time the fans turn on.  It seems like they want to turn themselves on but
> something is immediatley turning them off.  Solenoids Maybe??  Please if
> someone could help it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank You
>
> Felix
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:51:05 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Squeeling sound?

Today I started up good ole # 06759, and after the car had warmed up there 
was a squeeling sound coming from the back of the engine compartment. Not a 
squeel that would make you afraid ;), but a sound quite constant, annoying, 
yet low sound. I gave a little speed, nothing happened. Then I pushed the 
clutch and the squeeling went away instantly.

Now, the real question is: What the heck was this? Is this something of a 
warning of a more serious problem to come. Please help, and I will see to it 
that it will be fixed and corrected at once.

DMC Joe? Got any ideas what this might be?

Thanks for all your help! This list is GREAT!

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:03:10 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: Jack and handle storage

You will see a little door in the front of the storage area, open the
door and thats where they go! 

World Traveller wrote:
> 
> I finally bought a jack handle to go with the jack that came with my
> car but now I don't know where to put them. Where are they supposed
> to
> be stored in the car? Sorry if this is a dumb question!
>


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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:36:18 +0100
From: "gwells" <gwells_at_dml_totalise.co.uk>
Subject: Re: NO 3rd or 4th fan speed

I HAVE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM.
WHILST I HAVE NOT YET FINALLY ISOLATED THE EXACT AREA , IF YOU MOVE THE
WIRES TO THE DRIVERS SIDE OF THE HEATER MOTOR, THE 3rd STAGE FAN SPEED
WORKS. SO I WOULD IMAGINE IT IS A BROKEN WIRE OR A BAD CONNECTION.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: 21 May 2000 23:39
Subject: [DML] NO 3rd or 4th fan speed


> Hello,
>     For some reason the heater fan will only work on the 1st and 2nd
speeds.
> I hear the relay click when I go to the 3rd speed but I get no fan
movement.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:33:14 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Squeeling sound?

Stan,
Check the bearing on the pulley for the ac ( There are two pulleys with 
bearings, mounted close to each other). Sounds like the bearing is trying to 
go out. If it does while going down the road, itwill lock up and cause the ac 
belt to come off. Check both of these bearings, they are an over the counter 
part at the local pep boys. Or check with you favorite Delorean parts place. 
It is very easy to change. The noise may come and go but be aware if this is 
your problem it will go out all at once. Cost for a repalcement bearing last 
time I changed mine was $4.00. Also if this is your problem there is a great 
how to in a past issue of Delorean World. If you dont have the issue give me 
an email and I'll get you a copy of the section.
Bruce Battles
Vin 06569


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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:37:17 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Jack and handle storage

Look for the compartment in the front of the car under the hood ( luggage 
compartment cover.) There is a panel that removes with two thumb screws. The 
entire kit goes in there, it is a little hard to get it all in, but believe 
me it does fit.
Bruce Battles
Vin 06569


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