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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Trailing Arm Shims
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

2. struts and more...
From: Aaron Posey <cadysrme_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. San Luis Obispo
From: David Simkowitz-Rogers <drogers_at_dml_midland-school.org>

4. Final Word on Clutch Hydraulics??
From: "Michael G. Fischer" <michael.fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com>

5. Re: Fuel Injector Problem
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

6. Re: NO 3rd or 4th fan speed
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: Fan Problem !!
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: Fuel Injector Problem
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

9. Re: I had to laugh....
From: dmk_at_dml_bigpond.com

10. DeLorean Documentary by DA Pennebaker
From: "Daniel McGauley" <hawkeye_at_dml_creativeworlds.com>

11. De Lorean in Italy, Italy, Italy
From: cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com

12. Re: struts and more...
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

13. Re: De Lorean in Italy, Italy, Italy
From: Hisham Khalifa <hishamak_at_dml_batelco.com.bh>

14. Re: Squeeling sound?
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

15. Re: Squeeling sound? More info.....
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

16. Re: Final Word on Clutch Hydraulics??
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>

17. DeLorean Car Show Update
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:22:58 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Trailing Arm Shims

This is not a shadetree procedure. Take you DeLorean to an alignment shop
for an accurate rear wheel alignment.

"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: <billschaferabn_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:37 AM
Subject: [DML] Trailing Arm Shims


> Group,
>
>    I am in need of as much information as possible on installing three
shims
> on my passenger side rear trailing arm assembly.  The drivers side
trailing
> arm assembly has three shims in it and my passenger side trailing arm has
> none.  How much effort is required to place three shims on the passenger
side
> to even up the toe in on the passenger side. Has anyone done this or had
this
> done to their "D". Please let me hear from you if you have.
>
> Bill
> Vin#11596





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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Aaron Posey <cadysrme_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: struts and more...

Can I get the struts for the doors and louvres at the local
auto parts store? Or do I need to order them from a
Delorean part supplier?

If I can get them at the local PepBoys or what have you is
there a brand or part number to look for??

Other than this question I know where to get all the other
parts.  

I had the opportunity to talk with DMCJoe twice in one day
and he is one of the most helpful people I have ever talked
to.  He was not in any hurry and even talked with me when I
was having an emergency which was on Monday night when my
car would not start after having put gas in it and having
it overflow all over the ground from underneath the car. 
He gave me suggestions but have yet had time to get my D
back on the road just after 12 miles of owning it.  Oh
well, I am still sooo excited I own a Delorean. I am also
glad is it not my daily driver becuase I would be without a
ride!!

Thanks,

Aaron Posey
#03202  467 miles!

cadysrme_at_dml_yahoo.com

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:08:03 -0700
From: David Simkowitz-Rogers <drogers_at_dml_midland-school.org>
Subject: San Luis Obispo

Hello everybuddy

I was wondering if anybody knew of any D's around San Luis Obispo CA or
county. Thanks




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:42:36 -0700
From: "Michael G. Fischer" <michael.fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com>
Subject: Final Word on Clutch Hydraulics??

  Well Folks,
	As with all the talk recently about clutch slave cylinders ..
mine decided to let go...  sp I'm going to be replacing it and adding a
ss clutch line..

	What's the general consensus on:

	1) Replace the clutch master cylinder at this time too? 

	2) DOT 5 vs. DOT 4 in the clutch hydraulics?

	
	And of course .. with all that fluid dripping over the frame the
epoxy as come off ... anyone have any experience with recoating the
frame during this job??

  Thanks all..

Michael.Fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com
Manager, Software Development, Dittybase Inc.
www.dittybase.com




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:53:02 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Fuel Injector Problem

Chris, I work on D's also but not as much as some others in the group. But 
some rubber parts I replace just because rubber hardens over a period of 
time. I replace all the rubber bushings around the injectors when I'm working 
on my car's or someone elses. It's cheap insurance. When you take the clips 
off and take the injectors out, the rubber will be normally as hard as a 
rock. You might use gentle pressure and break them off. You can replace with 
Bosch 2-430-329-002. If you can't find them locally, I have them at $4.00ea. 
Back track from there. Good Luck. 
Ps:Please don't drop something in the holes.Then you will have to burn out or 
clean.
John, Dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
vin11004,06935,06568  



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:11:22 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: NO 3rd or 4th fan speed

David, 
Most of what I see is relays or circut breakers. I have new 40 amp relays for 
$15.00 ea and new Littlefuse circut breakers for $4.50 ea. One of the mod's 
is to replace the wires going to the circut breakers with a ring terminal 
instead of the quick disconnect. Try to find a brand call Thomas And Betts. I 
was in the electronics industry for 25 years and they are the best. Bad 
connectors will loosen up over a period of time, then some else has the 
problems. Be sure you have a good crimp tool to replace the terminals or you 
may create another overheating problem. Bad crimps can create electrical 
overheating and burn up wires and other things. I crimp with a full rachet 
tool and then solder. It may be an overkill, but I don't have problems in the 
middle of the road.
John vin 11004, 06935,06568
Dherv10_at_dml_aol.com   



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:25:05 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Fan Problem !!

Felix, common problem. Note what I just explained to another D owner on the 
net.. Replace the circut breaker's with 40 amp ea. and always keep a known 
good relay with you. ( Crimp wires properly )  with high quality ring 
terminal connectors as to not cause another electrical overheating problem. 
If you can't find parts let me know. I have extra's I buy for other D owners. 
If you don't have the means to crimp properly, then I can put ring terminals 
on the breakers with a short piece of wire and a high quality quick 
disconnect on the other end so you can just plug and play. 
John
dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
vin 11004,06935,06568. 



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 00:41:10 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Injector Problem

The most common problem concerning engine performance is problems in the
fuel enrichment circuit. The fact that you had to adjust the air fuel (CO)
mixture screw to make the engine run is a clue to an enrichment problem.
Check to be sure that the frequency valve is buzzing continuously during the
engine warm up phase.

"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris C <petleech_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 5:20 PM
Subject: [DML] Fuel Injector Problem


> I am new to the list and I am currently restoring an '83 DMC vin
> 016727. When I got th car it wasn't running at all and I wnt through
> th whole fuel system and freed the plunger thats usually problematic
> ith the fuel air mixture. After the plunger was freed the car ran
> smoothly and beautifully, but after I had the car inspected, the
> engine would hunt horribly and after 1 point wouldn't idle at all. I
> ended up richening the air to fuel mixture screw located behind the
> air filter just to get the car to run. After that the car got about
> 10 miles to the gallon and now gets about 17 on the highway. I have
> replaced the oxygen sensor, tested the pressures, set the timing, and
> flushed the injectors with cleaning. The problem could be a vacuum
> leak but I am reluctant to buy a vacuum testor because of the price
> and when the engine was pulled I could see no obvious leak. Someone
> had suggested I change the injectors? Is this the most likely problem?
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:20:25 -0000
From: dmk_at_dml_bigpond.com
Subject: Re: I had to laugh....

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Rick Haslewood" <delorean_at_dml_z...> wrote:
> I just had to laugh upon reading a "letter to the Editor"
> in the Spring issue of DeLorean World. For those of you
> who haven't received the issue yet, let me qoute part of
> it to you:
> 
> "In the future, I would suggest that you examine the
> publishers use of photos. It is obvious that the publisher
> reversed the photo on the cover. It indicates that there
> might be a RHD (whatever that means) out there and we
> all know there 'aint no such thing'."
> [SNIP] 


Rick,

Thanks for speaking out. I can't imagine there is still IGNORANT 
people in the new millenium. If the photo (film?)  was reversed, how 
come the numbers on the speedometer were not on the wrong side?? 
They're clearly seen on the "correct" position. (top speed 240 KM/H) 

Now is the most interesting part..... All RHD Delorean owners are 
driving the "ain't no such thing" and I think that is the real 
meaning of " KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE " cause you can only drive something
that never exists in your DREAM!!!!!


Dennis Huang
Queensland, Australia





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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 01:00:01 -0500
From: "Daniel McGauley" <hawkeye_at_dml_creativeworlds.com>
Subject: DeLorean Documentary by DA Pennebaker

Hi,

I've gotten a few emails and phones calls from people on the DML asking
about the DeLorean documentary for sale on Ebay.  I figured I'd send a quick
email to the DML to let them know a few details in case anyone was
wondering.  I've put a bunch more details on a Web site for the movie,
including some behind the scenes shots:

http://www.deloreanmovie.com

Ebay Auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=338857152

This documentary was shot from 1979-1981 during the start of the DeLorean
Motor Company.  John DeLorean allowed two acclaimed filmmakers, DA
Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus, to follow him around for 2 years to film as
much interesting stuff as they could.  The movie/documentary was shot on
color 16mm film, but I just licensed the movie from Mr. Pennebaker and had
500 copies made on NTSC VHS from a brand new master.  I don't have any way
to convert to PAL, sorry.  I've posted some tapes on Ebay as a dutch auction
(they will all sell for the same price, $49.99) and will try to bring some
to the DeLorean Car Show, but don't know if I'll be able to.

The movie is really remarkable, and I think everyone who sees it will be
very happy with the discovery of this lost gem.  This film was only shown a
few times on ATV in England, so not many people have seen it.  It's
mentioned briefly in John DeLorean's auto-biography, and that's actually how
I started tracking it down.  The filmmakers are Academy Award Winners (for
the War Room) which I thought was pretty amazing.

Here are a few highlights of the film that I thought were the most
interesting:

- Rare driving shots of the DeLorean prototype
- New Orleans, Belfast, and Geneva car show
- Crash test footage, and post inspections
- Private marketing and board meetings
- Radio and television interviews, newspaper articles
- Rare private moments with Cristina Ferrare
- Shots of Belfast riot that burned part of DMC factory
- Test track driving footage
- Shots of the different stages of DMC-12 manufacturing
- Road & Track interview and Popular Science interview
- Behind the scenes with Dick Brown, Chuck Bennington,
  Colin Chapman, Gene Cafiero, John DeLorean and more!

If you have further questions about the movie, please email me directly so
we don't bother people on the DML who don't wish to hear about the film.

Thanks,

-Daniel McGauley
hawkeye_at_dml_creativeworlds.com







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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:28:40 +0200
From: cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com
Subject: De Lorean in Italy, Italy, Italy




Dear Reader in Italy

We were able to register a De Lorean in Italy.
it take Approx. 2 Month. The car was from Switzerland

If anybody has Somme Interest to register a De Lorean in Italy (the same way)
Please contact me. I have 2 De Lorean in Stock for selling to Italy.

Christoph Wirz
De Lorean Automobile
Hauptstrasse 80
9506 Lommis Switzerland

wirz_at_dml_delorean.ch
www.delorean.ch





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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:30:17 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: struts and more...

Your message below explains why it is so important to support the
DeLorean professionals who continue to support us!

Why not just purchase the correct part from a DeLorean supplier, and
support their business?

Your will be sure to get the correct part, that has been tested over and
over again for your application, and if you have a problem you can pick
up the phone and call them for help.

Aaron Posey wrote:
> 
> Can I get the struts for the doors and louvres at the local
> auto parts store? Or do I need to order them from a
> Delorean part supplier?
> 
> If I can get them at the local PepBoys or what have you is
> there a brand or part number to look for??
> 
> Other than this question I know where to get all the other
> parts.
> 
> I had the opportunity to talk with DMCJoe twice in one day
> and he is one of the most helpful people I have ever talked
> to.  He was not in any hurry and even talked with me when I
> was having an emergency which was on Monday night when my
> car would not start after having put gas in it and having
> it overflow all over the ground from underneath the car.
> He gave me suggestions but have yet had time to get my D
> back on the road just after 12 miles of owning it.  Oh
> well, I am still sooo excited I own a Delorean. I am also
> glad is it not my daily driver becuase I would be without a
> ride!!
>



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:27:20 +0300
From: Hisham Khalifa <hishamak_at_dml_batelco.com.bh>
Subject: Re: De Lorean in Italy, Italy, Italy

Hello cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com

Chris...

Didn't I email you regarding purchasing two or three deloreans and shipping
them to Bahrain?

-Hisham-


On 24-May-00, cwirz_at_dml_sairgroup.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Reader in Italy
> 
> We were able to register a De Lorean in Italy.
> it take Approx. 2 Month. The car was from Switzerland
> 
> If anybody has Somme Interest to register a De Lorean in Italy (the same
> way) Please contact me. I have 2 De Lorean in Stock for selling to Italy.
> 
> Christoph Wirz
> De Lorean Automobile
> Hauptstrasse 80
> 9506 Lommis Switzerland
> 
> wirz_at_dml_delorean.ch
> www.delorean.ch
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Regards
-- 
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:11:07 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Squeeling sound?

Stian,

Certainly sounds like it is related to the clutch throwout bearing. Throwout
bearings rarely fail without sending out strange noises hundreds of miles
before failure. My only suggestion is to try to duplicate the noise again,
if it repeats as before its probably the throwout bearing talking to you.

"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Squeeling sound?


> When I released the clutch, the noise did not return.
> So what was this sound Joe?????
>
> Best wishes
> Stian
>
>
> >From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
> >Stian,
> >You said: "Then I pushed the clutch and the squealing went away
instantly".
> >What happened when you released the clutch; did the noise return?
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
> >To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
> >Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:51 PM
> >Subject: [DML] Squeeling sound?
> >
> >
> > > Today I started up good ole # 06759, and after the car had warmed up
> >there
> > > was a squeeling sound coming from the back of the engine compartment.
> >Not
> >a
> > > squeel that would make you afraid ;), but a sound quite constant,
> >annoying,
> > > yet low sound. I gave a little speed, nothing happened. Then I pushed
> >the
> > > clutch and the squeeling went away instantly.
> > >
> > > Now, the real question is: What the heck was this? Is this something
of
> >a
> > > warning of a more serious problem to come. Please help, and I will see
> >to
> >it
> > > that it will be fixed and corrected at once.
> > >
> > > DMC Joe? Got any ideas what this might be?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your help! This list is GREAT!
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Stian Birkeland
> > > NORWAY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:14:03 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Squeeling sound? More info.....

Stian,

The clutch line can be seen by looking behind the left front wheel at the
rear portion of the wheel well. You can see it close to the fire wall
running down to the frame. If its black it is the factory original.

"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Squeeling sound? More info.....


> I think that I shall add some more info to my previous posting if this has
> something to do with the clutch components.
>
> First, I don't think I have the stainless steel braided clutch line. Are
one
> able to see it from under the car? Is it difficult to "feel" or see what
> clutch line is on the car? I mean, what are the tricks to identify whether
> you have the plastic clutch line or the stainless braided one?
>
> Second, my clutch is dead-hard. I mean, you really have to push it to the
> floor, very hard, a comparison would be to kick a football as hard as you
> can.
>
> Third, I do have a "squeak" sound when I depress the clutch. Sounds like
> something that needs lubrication.
>
> Fourth, the clutch fluid is at constant level. No signs of leaks.
>
> Fifth, the suggestion from Mr. Linstad that the squealing sound maybe the
AC
> bearings are not very likely I think. The reason I say so is that I
replaced
> those last summer, and that squeal was like hearing a bat from hell...
>
> No, this sound is somewhat quieter, yet annoying. I suspect that there
maybe
> something to do with the clutch, but who knows? DMC Joe, any more ideas??
>
> Best wishes
> Stian Birkeland
> NORWAY
>
>
>
> >When I released the clutch, the noise did not return.
> >So what was this sound Joe?????
> >
> >Best wishes
> >Stian
> >
> >
> > >From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
> > >Stian,
> > >You said: "Then I pushed the clutch and the squealing went away
> >instantly".
> > >What happened when you released the clutch; did the noise return?
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
> > >To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:51 PM
> > >Subject: [DML] Squealing sound?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Today I started up good ole # 06759, and after the car had warmed up
> > >there
> > > > was a squeeling sound coming from the back of the engine
compartment.
> > >Not
> > >a
> > > > squeel that would make you afraid ;), but a sound quite constant,
> > >annoying,
> > > > yet low sound. I gave a little speed, nothing happened. Then I
pushed
> > >the
> > > > clutch and the squeeling went away instantly.
> > > >
> > > > Now, the real question is: What the heck was this? Is this something
> >of
> > >a
> > > > warning of a more serious problem to come. Please help, and I will
see
> > >to
> > >it
> > > > that it will be fixed and corrected at once.
> > > >
> > > > DMC Joe? Got any ideas what this might be?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all your help! This list is GREAT!
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > > Stian Birkeland
> > > > NORWAY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:31:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>
Subject: Re: Final Word on Clutch Hydraulics??

On Tue, 23 May 2000, Michael G. Fischer wrote:

> 	What's the general consensus on:
> 
> 	1) Replace the clutch master cylinder at this time too? 

Yeah.  If one is bad the other is likely to follow.

> 	2) DOT 5 vs. DOT 4 in the clutch hydraulics?

DOT 4.  The advantages to DOT 5 aren't that pronounced when it comes to
the clutch (or the brakes for that matter IMO :} ).  Also on many cars
(don't know for sure about the DeLorean) the clutch and brakes share the
same reservoir, so you have to use the same type of fluid in both.




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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:22:16 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Car Show Update

Well you did it

All of the Hotel rooms at the Holiday Inn are Filled.  If you need a room 
still keep calling and ask. If one opens up they will give it to you for the 
same rate of $99.00.

Also the Hampton Inn has 5 rooms reserved for the DeLorean Car Show until 
Friday June 2nd.  It is on a first come first serve basis and if other rooms 
open up you can still try.  If the Hotel is full ask for Amy at X 2063 and 
she will help you.  Its only 2 blocks from the Holiday Inn.

Hampton number is 216-241-6600

We have 115 rooms total reserved vs 72 from last time 
Also we are going to top the 225 people for the events.

I still need a few more cars to reach 100 so if you haven't registered please 
do.
Monday was a good day we added 20 people to the list (4 cars).

You should have received the reservation packets.  I have had some people ask 
about the individual events.  Sorry I did not list each event. It was more 
than I could have handled.  If you need to know call or e-mail me.  I will be 
at the Thursday Evening dinner (late) and later at the hotel so catch me 
there also.  You will need to sign in anyway with me and we can go over the 
events.  (Mike will handle the packets Friday during the day)

[MODIFICATION: On Friday you can either pick up your packet at the start of
 the Driving Tour 9:30-10:00 AM or at the Crawford around 6:00 PM.  From
 10:00 until evening we will be on the Tour.]

  If you want to add an event it should be no problem and we can do it there.
As far as the Rallies if you are not registered or are not sure e-mail Mike
or me or just show up.  There is no charge for the Cruises/Ralley and Mike will collect for 
the Thursday dinner for those that want to go that night.

[MODIFICATION: YOU MUST PRE-REGISTER FOR THE DRIVING TOUR / RALLY!  We will only
provide directions, maps, and audio tapes to people who pre-register.  You can
do this by email-ing Mike Substelny by June 1. msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu ]

Thanks again and hope you enjoy the show 

Ken



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