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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: DMC Construction?
From: Ann & Ed Thompson <rapparivarat_at_dml_erols.com>

2. Re: Re:Door Lock solenoids/Car Alarm
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Exhaustpipe clamp
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Another Project Car listed
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

5. Re: 97 DeLorean Movie
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs_at_dml_flash.net>

6. Pronounciations...
From: "Luke Sandel" <ls_at_dml_chickencow.csv.cmich.edu>

7. ADMIN: Non-Member posting stopped
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

8. Re: Re:Door Lock solenoids/Car Alarm
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

9. Michigan Club website
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>

10. Buying a "driven" D versus a "stored" D?
From: heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net

11. Re: Hard Starting.
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

12. Gas Strut Locks
From: scottmueller_at_dml_zebra.net

13. alignment
From: gaporter13_at_dml_aol.com

14. April 8 DUST-OFF
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

15. Bad Hair Day
From: "Tom Watkins watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net" <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>

16. need parts ! HELP
From: "Brandon" <bsmoody_at_dml_kih.net>

17. DeLoreans in spain ?
From: dwacker_at_dml_delorean.ch

18. Re: Pronounciations...
From: "Christopher M. Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>

19. Re: Pronounciations... Giorgetto Giugiaro
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

20. DMC Houston / James
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

21. Value of low mileage but engine swapped D?
From: heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net

22. RE: Exhaustpipe clamp
From: "Jay" <jason609_at_dml_concentric.net>

23. RE: Pronounciations...
From: "Heywood, Nick" <nheywood_at_dml_acxiom.com.au>

24. Floor Mats
From: sgskbm_at_dml_aol.com

25. D in Parking Lot
From: "James Fay" <jfjr_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 16:04:09 -0400
From: Ann & Ed Thompson <rapparivarat_at_dml_erols.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Construction?

> bluevelvet420_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> 
> the Lodge at pebble beach, and they are working on this new section
> called "Casa Palmero" and i saw the construction signs and they said DMC
> Construction.  is this one of JZD's shell companies or would that be Delorean
> Construction?  It just struck me as interesting.

The building contractor "Dmc Construction" has offices in Rancho Cucamonga
(909-944-6375) and Fresno (559-451-0900).  Give 'em a call and ask!  Note the
lower case "mc".  It's listed as "Dmc", not "DMC".

As an aside, there is a company called DMC Vehicles with locations in Florida
and Wisconsin.  In this case it is "DM Conversions, Inc.", but their company
logo is "DMC".  I have no idea what the "DM" stands for but the "C" stands for
"conversions".  They do aftermarket conversions on vans. 

There is also the Dictionary of Musical Chords called simply the "DMC".  Don't
forget Digital Media Consulting, also known as "DMC".  Then there's the French
company "Dollfus, Mieg & Compagnie" (thread and fabric) which claims ownership
of "DMC" and states that it is the registered trademark of "DMC S.A." and
"cannot be used without written permission".  Etc., etc., ad nauseam.

Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 13:06:58 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re:Door Lock solenoids/Car Alarm

Hello,
Has anyone had any experience with wiring of a car alarm that also works the 
door lock central locking system. Is it possible to use such a feature on an 
alarm system together with the door locks and door lock module or is it not 
advisable?

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

>From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Re:Door Lock solenoids
>Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 01:14:24 -0000
>
>
>This takes about 70 feet of #20 enameled motor (magnet) wire per
>coil. Each solenoid has two coils.
>
>Details on other lock repair issues at:
>http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/doorlocks.htm
>
>Dave
>
>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, burkephoto_at_dml_a...  wrote:
> >  In a message dated 4/7/00 10:02:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net
> > writes:
> >
> > << you will probably
> >  have to install new solenoids as well. >>
> >
> > I just wanted to mention that burned out solenoids can be very
>easily
> > rewound.  I've done it by unwinding the old wire (measure and
>record the
> > length) and getting the same gauge and length and carfully
>rewinding the
> > solenoid.
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 13:10:45 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Exhaustpipe clamp


Having a rusted exhaustpipe clamp(the one which connects to the catalytic 
converter, I want to replace it. Can anyone tell me the correct inches " for 
this clamp?

Thanks!
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:45:47 -0500
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Another Project Car listed

All you guys looking for a project car - another great deal has just been
listed on the DMCNews Web page at www.dmcnews.com. Hit the Buy& Sell and
then the Automobiles for Sale link.

Dave




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 19:06:05 -0500
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs_at_dml_flash.net>
Subject: Re: 97 DeLorean Movie

For all those who asked what the movie was about.

The movie contains a recording of  one of JZD s  speeches about the Stainless Steel
car and the Stainless Steel FRAME (YEP!).  with one of the large DeLorean posters in
the back ground.  It then goes into a list and videos of all the major improvement
in the car (10) and the options added to in (10).  Each segment details how these
were done.   The is about 23 minutes long.  The last part of the film is dyno
testing the car at route 66 drag raceway.  and shows the dyno results. It also list
the major vendors for the parts. This is about 7 minutes long.

Bob








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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 01:06:59 -0000
From: "Luke Sandel" <ls_at_dml_chickencow.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: Pronounciations...

Here's one question that the DML back issues couldn't divulge the 
answer to.  How exactly does one correctly pronounce Giorgetto 
Giugiaro's name?  Strange question, yes... but I'm doing a video
about DMC for my European economics class and need to pronounce it.

If no one knows, I'll attempt to phone my Italian brother-in-law and 
see what he says (and provide a phonetic transcription to the group
for posterity ;)

Thanks!
Luke




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:53:56 -0500
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Non-Member posting stopped

Prior to the eGroups change last weekend, people who were not members of the
list could post anyway. This was apparently good for people that did not
want barrels of email coming in at work, but read the list on the web and
still wanted to post. This function is now gone. SO - here's a suggestion.
If you want to be able to post to the list, but not get the email, you
should subscribe and immediately go to the eGroups web page and change your
subscription to read-on-the-web (i.e. no email ) mode.

Dave



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:43:38 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re:Door Lock solenoids/Car Alarm

Yes it is possible,  My car alarm was hooked into the door lock module.  I 
beleive thats why my locks are not working:(


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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 06:57:23 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Michigan Club website

The website has had an update.  Nothing super big, jsut a little 
things here and there.  I've recieved a letter from the Bricklin 
Association and they invited all Delorean owners and their cars to 
attend the National Bricklin meetin Ypsilanti Michigan.  This is 
their version of DMC 2000.  The webpage dealing with more information 
about this is http://webus80.wang.com/BI/EventCal2000.htm

I am going to try to attend, and hope to see many more Deloreans 
there.  This is a great opportunity for Delorean owners and Bricklin 
owners to converse and to have a good time.

Erik Geerdink
4512



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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 13:44:48 -0000
From: heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net
Subject: Buying a "driven" D versus a "stored" D?

Hello All,

  What types of problems should I look for when considering buying an 
'81 Delorean with 3,700 original miles?  I know about the throttle 
shield update, but how do I test the fuel tank, seals, and other 
updates?   Would frame rust be easily spotted if put up on a lift? 
What parts should I plan on replacing right away, assuming the car
has been garaged for the duration (besides the obvious things like 
tires and fluids)?

Thanks in advance.




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:05:59 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Hard Starting.

If the fuel accumulator is original or more than 6 years old I would suggest
you
replace that item first.

"We're here to help you"
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: <tonilfhs98_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Hard Starting.


> to List,
> I have the problem exactly as descripted.  It starts right away when cold
and
> idles properly.  It runs find and never overheat.  My problem is hot
restart.
>  If it start at all, it sputters for a minute or two and then runs fine.
> Last night after I stop at a friend for half an hour and it won't start.
I
> have to let it cool down for another hour before it will start.  What
could
> cause that?  Where should I start looking?
> Thanks all
> Bill




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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:45:54 US/Central
From: scottmueller_at_dml_zebra.net
Subject: Gas Strut Locks

FYI

I just picked up a device that clamps onto the gas strut and locks it into position.

I think that this is a handy device, especially on the front bonnet.  At shows, even with
new struts, I always dreaded when the wind would start to blow and the bonnet would come
down with decapitating force

"Shur-Lock" for $3.99 at your local car parts store.

Scott Mueller
1981
#2981



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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:16:10 EDT
From: gaporter13_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: alignment

i need to have my front alignment done, as i whacked a curb pretty hard 
avoiding another car...  i called a local tire place and they say that they 
have the specs for the DeLorean, but think that there may be extra work 
involved.  is this true, or is it the same as any other car?
-Geof, 3505


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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:29:35 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: April 8 DUST-OFF

It is now Sunday morning in northern New Jersey and it is snowing.
The roads are wet and thre is about 2 inches of snow on the grass.
Yesterday we had our annual event and the weather could not have been
better. It was 70 degrees and sunny.The event started at 8:30
and the first cars were arriving by 9:00. I think we had a total of
15 cars and over 30 people. 10 cars went through the shop with some 
being done outside. Rob and Debbie Grady came and Rob went over
all the cars. We also did several door adjustments. We even had 1
"D" die in the shop but Rob was able to revive it with a new battery
which The Auto Works had in stock. It was really invaluable to have
had the use of  2 lifts and all day we moved cars in and out 
while Rob was working. Many thanks to all of the people who helped
out with the event and to both the Tri-State Delorean Owners Club and 
the Delorean Midatlantic club and The Auto Works for making this
event 
a big success.We all look foward to seeing everyone in Ohio and will 
try to organize more local events in the future. Some will be in 
Englishtown this comming weekend (If it doesn't snow).

David Teitelbaum
Vin 10757
Re-elected technical editor Delorean Midalantic (no one else wanted 
it)



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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:30:52 -0000
From: "Tom Watkins watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net" <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
Subject: Bad Hair Day

I'm getting my car ready for the Maine State Parade's theme of 
"Hollywood on Parade" on May 6th.  I've got my car equipped with jet 
exhausts and other add-ons that look pretty good.  I have a Doc Brown 
costume but I'm looking for a white wig that looks like his hair.
I've 
checked local costume shops to no avail.

Does anyone have a fairly decent looking white "Doc" wig from any 
previous outings?

Again, if anyone is interested in joining the Parade let me know and
I will send you the details when I get the line up order from Parade 
officials. 

Tom
#5732



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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:32:31 -0400
From: "Brandon" <bsmoody_at_dml_kih.net>
Subject: need parts ! HELP

	
	I'm looking for a set of new or used engine bay
 water pipes for a pre-1233 VIN car.  Anyone with old
parts cars please check if you have these and let me know. 
I came up with the pre-1233 number going by the DMC documentation.
This may not be the exact cut-0ff but what I'm looking for is the
setup pictured in the Delorean sales brochure

-Brandon
bsmoody_at_dml_kih.net



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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 18:22:33 -0000
From: dwacker_at_dml_delorean.ch
Subject: DeLoreans in spain ?

Are there any DeLoreans in spain or some spanish guys here on the 
list ?
Please let me know.

Dirk Wacker 
(VIN # 6795)



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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:08:39 +0100
From: "Christopher M. Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Pronounciations...

I believe the italian car designer 'Giorgetto Giugiaro' it is pronounced as
"zhorzhetto zherzharzhow"

I hope this helps

Chris H
UK


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From: Luke Sandel <ls_at_dml_chickencow.csv.cmich.edu>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 2:06 AM
Subject: [DML] Pronounciations...


Here's one question that the DML back issues couldn't divulge the
answer to.  How exactly does one correctly pronounce Giorgetto
Giugiaro's name?  Strange question, yes... but I'm doing a video
about DMC for my European economics class and need to pronounce it.

If no one knows, I'll attempt to phone my Italian brother-in-law and
see what he says (and provide a phonetic transcription to the group
for posterity ;)

Thanks!
Luke




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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 13:31:20 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pronounciations... Giorgetto Giugiaro

How about...

"shor-shetto shu-she-aro".........

:)

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

>From: "Luke Sandel" <ls_at_dml_chickencow.csv.cmich.edu>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Pronounciations...
>Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 01:06:59 -0000
>
>Here's one question that the DML back issues couldn't divulge the
>answer to.  How exactly does one correctly pronounce Giorgetto
>Giugiaro's name?  Strange question, yes... but I'm doing a video
>about DMC for my European economics class and need to pronounce it.
>
>If no one knows, I'll attempt to phone my Italian brother-in-law and
>see what he says (and provide a phonetic transcription to the group
>for posterity ;)
>
>Thanks!
>Luke
>
>
>
>
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 13:33:58 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: DMC Houston / James


James,
what can you tell us about the new suspension package you're developing in 
England? What's the news? What will it feature?

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:05:39 -0000
From: heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net
Subject: Value of low mileage but engine swapped D?

Hello All,

  Forget my last question about garaged vs. stored deloreans.. I just 
visited a D for sale, and I would like to get some input on the value 
of the car: 1981, manual, black interior, w/gas flap, and about 4,000 
original miles. The car has been garaged and meticulously maintained. 
 Visual inspection reveals only minor cosmetic issues (loose 
headliner, broken gas gauge, door locks are clunky, very loose
shifter linkage, very tight clutch). The body is in excellent shape - 
the doors don't sag and operate flawlessly.  The leather is in 
excellent condition. Tires are in VG condition - Michelin Sport GTs. 
From what I can tell, the frame looks good (in the engine 
compartment).  
There was  a small amount of oil drippage from the trans area.  The 
front and rear fascias are in perfect condition.  Now here's the fun 
part: The engine was swapped in 1992 with a 4.3L Chevy V6, with many
performance parts: Edelbrock carb, chrome valve covers, MSD ignition, 
all hoses are steel braided, performance wires, etc.  The engine has 
about 2000 miles on it.  I believe the trans to be the original, but 
am only relying on the fact that the shift pattern (i.e. reverse) is 
the same. 
 The speedometer and tach have been replaced with higher number 
versions (obviously not original), and three small accessory gauges 
have been added to the dash area next to the glove box (battery, oil 
press, temp).   I did not get a chance to drive the car yet, but am 
seriously considering it's purchase.  If anyone can help place a
value on this car (even a ballpark), I would appreciate it greatly.  
Also, if anyone has any opinion about maintenance and/or ownership 
risks of such a hybrid car, I could certaintly use that info as well. 
 Many thanks in advance,

-Hank



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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 18:57:47 -0400
From: "Jay" <jason609_at_dml_concentric.net>
Subject: RE: Exhaustpipe clamp

just take it off and bring it with you and compare them.




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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:26:22 +1000
From: "Heywood, Nick" <nheywood_at_dml_acxiom.com.au>
Subject: RE: Pronounciations...

I think it's:

Jee'or-jee-etto Jee'u-jee-aro

Sounds like a Star Wars character :)

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Sandel [mailto:ls_at_dml_chickencow.csv.cmich.edu]
Sent: Sunday, 9 April 2000 11:07
To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Pronounciations... 


Here's one question that the DML back issues couldn't divulge the 
answer to.  How exactly does one correctly pronounce Giorgetto 
Giugiaro's name?  Strange question, yes... but I'm doing a video
about DMC for my European economics class and need to pronounce it.

If no one knows, I'll attempt to phone my Italian brother-in-law and 
see what he says (and provide a phonetic transcription to the group
for posterity ;)

Thanks!
Luke




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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:30:57 -0000
From: sgskbm_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Floor Mats

Stupid Question:

Does anyone know where I can get the floor mats that have the DMC 
logo on them?  If not, do you know where I could get custome fit 
floor mats?  My car only has 10,000 miles and the carpets are great 
and I would like to keep them that way.

Scot
6452



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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 20:51:35 EDT
From: "James Fay" <jfjr_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: D in Parking Lot


Hi Everyone,

I just saw a Delorean in a gas station parking lot today in Rockland County, 
NY.  It has been there for awhile, because there was snow all over it from 
last night.

I will try to get the VIN number tommorow, but does anyone have any info on 
it?

- James

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