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There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Relay wire question???
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

2. New Info on Body Dies
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

3. Cleveland Web Updates!!!!!
From: "Michael C. Babb, MCSE, MCT, MCP-I, CNA" <michael.babb_at_dml_mindspring.com>

4. Re: New Info on Body Dies
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

5. trunk rubber gasket replacement tips needed..
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

6. Re: 81 D for Sale
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: Relay wire question???
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

8. Re: Wreck
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:17:18 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Relay wire question???

Hello,
    This is going to be a little hard to explain, but I'll try.  On the 
bottom row of relays(7 in row) there is a black wire conecting relays 
#19,20,21,24 & 25.  I think it may also connect to other relay(s) because I 
have 2 connectors not hooked to anything.  does anyone know what these black 
wires are for?  I would assume they are ground wires for the relays but I am 
not sure.  All the wires in my compartment are perfect except this black one 
is melted and is bare in most places(even cut).  most of my electronics don't 
work(locks,mirrors,windows)  I am going to replace this wire because it is 
cut in half and obviously not doing what it is made to do.  I just want to 
know what it is for.  Could this be the reason why a lot of my electronics 
don't work?

Thanks,
Dave
#2496



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:50:46 -0000
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: New Info on Body Dies

Thanks, Dave!  That's some pretty exciting historical info there.

So, anybody here on the list a diver?   :-)

Seriously, if the fish company that bought the dies has since gone
under, then aren't the pieces just so much refuse?  Not that I think
they're still usable after 20 years in the water, but they'd make
great bookends.

What are those dies made of, anyway?


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN #4695

</SNIP>
--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> It has often been reported that after the demise of the DeLorean 
> Company in 1982, the stamping dies that were used to manufacture the
> stainless steel body panels for the DeLorean car were dumped into
> the ocean by the British Government.  This is one of those tales
> that is repeated often, without any proof of fact. ...Well - - out
> of the blue (actually cyberspace) comes some new evidence.
</snip>





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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:44:49 -0600
From: "Michael C. Babb, MCSE, MCT, MCP-I, CNA" <michael.babb_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Cleveland Web Updates!!!!!

Don't forget to check my website for updates from the Cleveland Car Show.
It should truly be an event not to miss . . .but if you do, please check my
website at www.babbtechnology.com/delorean. I will be attempting nightly
updates from the show.  I have 2 64MB chips for my camera, and can add extra
space to my website as needed . . .I will try to get pictures of anything
and everything of interest. . . .

For all going to the show, if you own a copy of DELOREAN, bring it along.  I
am hoping that I can get JZD to sign mine for me!

Darryl, sorry to hear that you and the trailer will be unable to attend.
Hope everything turns out OK for you.

Michael C. Babb, MCSE, MCT, MCP-I, CNA
Babb Technology
michael_at_dml_babbtechnology.com




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:15:16 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: New Info on Body Dies

Are they pulling the body dies out and keeping them out, or pulling them out 
and pushing them back in?

-John



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:38:58 -0400
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: trunk rubber gasket replacement tips needed..

Can someone please point me in the right direction for the steps and/or tips
for replacing the rubber weather seal on the trunk lid?  The old one is
missing, but there is plenty of glue reside which I plan to remove first.
I'm more curious about installing the new gasket/seal. I do have the proper
rubber cement...  Thanks,

-Hank




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:50:51 EDT
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: 81 D for Sale

This is still not the correct VIN if it is an Oct 81 build.  


<< Here is the (correct) Vin # for the car in Dallas for Sale:  
SCEDT26T88BD00471
 Sorry about the confusion!
 
 1981 40,612 miles   Grey Interior  5 Spd.     BAE Turbo      Engine bay in
 pristine condition with S/S header bottle
 Non original Alpine receiver  Built in K40 radar   Goodyear Eagle RH's 
F195/R235
 looked new     Leather is Avg.
 Stainless is in good condition 1 small indention on the T panel   Fascia's in
 good shape       Frame is in good condition
 Comes with Tech Manual
 
 The car drove very well - the A/C worked fine, all the other electricals
 appeared to be in good condition.  All the gaps in the panels
 were uniform and it didn't appear to of been in any type of accident.  I 
don't
 have prior ownership history as its at a wholesale car lot
 (indoors).  They don't know what to do with it.  They have $12K in it but 
will
 take $10k to move it.  I've exhausted my resources looking
 for a way to purchase the vehicle, but didn't want to stand in the way of
 someone else realizing their dream.  Overall I would rank this car a
 6.5 out of 10.
 
 Here's what the car needs:
 
 Headliner Engine louver       Weatherstripping     Pulls for both doors
 Drivers window needs work (offtrack)
 Carpet         Brakes squeak       A good detailing!
 
 SCEDT26T88BD00471        Oct. 1981 >>



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:05:48 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Relay wire question???

All wires colored black in the electrical system are grounds. The melted
ground wire you mentioned is the result of a dead short across an un-fused
circuit. Open grounds in the electrical system can cause some circuits to
malfunction or not work at all.

NOTICE: We will be in Cleveland OH for the big DeLorean 2000 show June 12
through the 21st. Please hold all messages until after the 21st. Thanks

"We're here to help you"; See you in Cleveland!

DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>
.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:17 PM
Subject: [DML] Relay wire question???


> Hello,
>     This is going to be a little hard to explain, but I'll try.  On the
> bottom row of relays(7 in row) there is a black wire conecting relays
> #19,20,21,24 & 25.  I think it may also connect to other relay(s) because
I
> have 2 connectors not hooked to anything.  does anyone know what these
black
> wires are for?  I would assume they are ground wires for the relays but I
am
> not sure.  All the wires in my compartment are perfect except this black
one
> is melted and is bare in most places(even cut).  most of my electronics
don't
> work(locks,mirrors,windows)  I am going to replace this wire because it is
> cut in half and obviously not doing what it is made to do.  I just want to
> know what it is for.  Could this be the reason why a lot of my electronics
> don't work?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> #2496





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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:42:18 -0400
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: Re: Wreck

Tom wrote:

> Last friday as I was driving my D a disaster struck....
> <snip>
> I'm starting to think that I was not meant to own a DeLorean.

Tom, I feel for you.  The Automotive Gods are fickle indeed.

While "Rustus" is the most feared by the general automotive enthusiast, we DeLorean
owners only fear Rustus' wrath on our frames.  Therefore, the other automotive gods
often gang up to get us.  Accumluatorus Fuel, and his brothers Pumpus Fuel and
Contaminatus Fuel come to mind most easily, although most feared by a "D" owner is
the mighty Not-my-faultus Accidentus.  Accidentus' wrath has been recorded
throughout history.  One particular quote is quite relevant for this event, written
by none other than William Shakespeare.

   To "D" or not to "D". That is the question.
   Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
   The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
   Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
   And by opposing, end them...

The quote I'm sure is familiar. However, Shakespeare was misquoted.  The scene was
actually written about a carriage he had purchased from Sir Zachary DeLorean, a
famous gull-wing carriage designer of the day (Hey, gullwings were a real novelty
then too).  A young wench in an ox-cart pulled in front of him in the village and
caused a lot of front end damage to his carriage.  Luckily, there was no real
structural damage as his carriage had the horse power mounted in the rear (another
novelty of the day), and the front crumple haybaskets absorbed most of the impact.
Anyway... I'm rambling.

An event like this is especially hard when you love the Automotive Gods so much.  I
for one do.  I spend outrageous amounts of time, money, and love to try to win their
favors.  But still the Gods are fickle.  I've been involved in seven crashes,
including being hit by a train, a bus, a helicopter (don't ask), and a Jet Ski (even
worse...) and a near miss with a plane on the runway at the Boca Raton, FL airport
at F.A.U.  I've also had that car damaged by falling into the ocean, Hurricane
Andrew, two tornadoes, a bolt of lightning, and a flood.  All of that happened to
the same -one- car, and I still have that car to this day.  I have had four cars
since, and have suffered less and less "events" with each one (knock on wood...
er... woodgrain)

It boils down to this: you -can- show the Automotive Gods who is boss.  If they
really wanted to 'take you out', you wouldn't be writing to us right now -- you'd be
six feet under (in a brushed-stainless, gull-lid coffin?)  No, they're testing
you... testing whether you will take arms against a sea of troubles, and by
opposing, end them...  or... whether you'll just give up and drive a Ford Fiesta.  I
have a feeling that you're going to fight back, and fight back hard. There are 1,050
people on this list that will help you fight back.  Hang in there, we're all with
you.  You'll be Living the Dream again in no time.

-Dave Stragand
Vin #05927




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