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Topics in this digest:

1. A great job of a BTTF mockup
From: WWPTVBOY_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: 81 D for Sale
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Re: New Info on Body Dies
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Painting a De Lorean
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: R12
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

6. Memorabilia
From: "nigel shepherd" <nygyl_at_dml_hotmail.com>

7. Re: DMC RECOMMENDED S. S. POLISH
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

8. Fuel Mileage
From: SEDeLorean_at_dml_aol.com

9. Re: 81 D for Sale
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>

10. DeLorean project/parts car for sale. $5500, green folding USA cash. Atlanta
From: "Bob Duckworth" <wb4mnf_at_dml_atl.org>

11. eBay item
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>

12. Different DMC Fuel Senders?
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

13. Car Show, Bethlehem PA
From: "yugoman" <mdrig_at_dml_email.msn.com>

14. Re: eBay item
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

15. Re: eBay item
From: WWPTVBOY_at_dml_aol.com

16. Re: DeLorean project/parts car for sale. $5500, green folding USA cash....
From: sugapp20_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: Rotor cross reference?
From: "robert parker" <roberthparker_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:55:58 EDT
From: WWPTVBOY_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: A great job of a BTTF mockup

I haven't spoken up in this group until now, but I felt the need to point 
this out.  As discussed, many of us are against this sort of thing, but I 
have no problem saying good job when it's rightfully earned.  I came across a 
webpage of a young man who converted his DeLorean into a spitting image of 
one of the BTTF DeLoreans.  The page has pictures documenting his progress 
all the way to completion.  If you've ever thought about doing this to your 
"D," I recommend giving it a look.  I work in the Entertainment Industry and 
am frequently in contact with some of the actual picture cars from BTTF, this 
is a great job!  I currently have an Email into the project car owner as to 
learn some of his techniques he used in the conversion.  (Can you still 
access the engine compartment easily?  Did you actually drill into the 
stainless for mounting purposes?  Etc.)  I've heard many rumors of Bolt On 
Kits available throughout this group, but have never heard or seen any proof 
that they exist.  If anyone knows... Speak up.  I doubt I'd ever do it to 
mine, but I have to admit I've thought about it.  For show purposes, of 
course :)

Here's the LINK:
<A HREF="http://www.culttvman.com/dvdelorean.html">CultTVman: Doug Vaters' 
Delorean</A> 

Just wanted to throw this out to you all...  It's an okay idea, but it's a 
great job!

J. Ryan



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:54:47 -0400
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 81 D for Sale

Ok, well... I was under the impression that production Vin's started at 500.
Is this a pre-production car that snuck its way over? What's going on? Grey
interior? Didn't all of the first production 81's come with black interior?
I think the Vin needs to be checked again...

---Dan Vin#5493.... um, well, hopefully stainless by the end of the week.
Anyone wanna help me strip my car? :o) I'm in NJ.


----- Original Message -----
From: <mbomberger_at_dml_analysts.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:01 AM
Subject: [DML] 81 D for Sale


>
>
> Here is the (correct) Vin # for the car in Dallas for Sale:
SCEDT26T88BD00471
> Sorry about the confusion!
>
> 1981 40,612 miles   Grey Interior  5 Spd.     BAE Turbo      Engine bay in
> pristine condition with S/S header bottle
> Non original Alpine receiver  Built in K40 radar   Goodyear Eagle RH's
F195/R235
> looked new     Leather is Avg.
> Stainless is in good condition 1 small indention on the T panel   Fascia's
in
> good shape       Frame is in good condition
> Comes with Tech Manual
>
> The car drove very well - the A/C worked fine, all the other electricals
> appeared to be in good condition.  All the gaps in the panels
> were uniform and it didn't appear to of been in any type of accident.  I
don't
> have prior ownership history as its at a wholesale car lot
> (indoors).  They don't know what to do with it.  They have $12K in it but
will
> take $10k to move it.  I've exhausted my resources looking
> for a way to purchase the vehicle, but didn't want to stand in the way of
> someone else realizing their dream.  Overall I would rank this car a
> 6.5 out of 10.
>
> Here's what the car needs:
>
> Headliner Engine louver       Weatherstripping     Pulls for both doors
> Drivers window needs work (offtrack)
> Carpet         Brakes squeak       A good detailing!
>
> SCEDT26T88BD00471        Oct. 1981
>
> Please contact me offline for more info.
> Mbomberger_at_dml_analysts.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:43:40 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: New Info on Body Dies

I believe the dies are made of stainless steel. I also remember Mike Loasby 
(former director of engineering, DMCL) talking about testing of the 
stainless steel panels on the car which were exposed to a salt environment 
equivalent to 50 years, and no damage to the panels! This was discussed in 
the documentary "Back From the Future". Now, all that is necessary is to get 
the dies up from the ocean and then give them a nice good cleaning. I would 
guess they would be "as new".

There has also been some discussion on where these dies came from, somebody 
talked about Germany. What I believe is true, is that the stamping company 
was based in Ireland, and this company was a smaller division of the German 
stamping company LAPPLE. This company was owned money by DeLorean and when 
DMCL went to the wall, Lapple sold the dies as scrap - they had no use for 
them.

When looking close at the pictures of the molds on the boat, they dont seem 
to be very big, however they are probably very heavy!

Maybe the folks restoring the ship that dropped off the dies would be 
interested in a "re-union" trip. This time not to drop dies, but to get them 
aboard again. (I see a very big crane in those photos) :)

The only thing else needed would be deep sea divers, who would cost quite a 
lot of money....Another thing - how deep exactly is the ocean where the dies 
were dropped?

Who wants to go fishing?
Ah, one can dream right!
Anyway, it would be great to have those dies recovered. Right now there are 
plenty of body parts left (new and used) but I continue to think about the 
future of the DeLorean. It would be nice to know that those dies were in 
safe hands. Lets give them to DMC Houston :)

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY




>From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] New Info on Body Dies
>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:50:46 -0000
>
>Thanks, Dave!  That's some pretty exciting historical info there.
>
>So, anybody here on the list a diver?   :-)
>
>Seriously, if the fish company that bought the dies has since gone
>under, then aren't the pieces just so much refuse?  Not that I think
>they're still usable after 20 years in the water, but they'd make
>great bookends.
>
>What are those dies made of, anyway?
>
>
>Gus Schlachter
>Austin, TX
>VIN #4695
>
></SNIP>
>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> > It has often been reported that after the demise of the DeLorean
> > Company in 1982, the stamping dies that were used to manufacture the
> > stainless steel body panels for the DeLorean car were dumped into
> > the ocean by the British Government.  This is one of those tales
> > that is repeated often, without any proof of fact. ...Well - - out
> > of the blue (actually cyberspace) comes some new evidence.
></snip>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:11:11 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Painting a De Lorean

Hello List,
    well, The exterior of my car is almost finished.  After a few thousand 
dollars and a lot of hard work I have it pretty much done.  It is a mercedes 
mirror black right now but is oxidized and very scratched.  I plan to repaint 
it the same color but leave the rear fascia silver.
    The passenger side door is stainless steel but the rest of the car is 
already painted.  A guy is coming up next week that paints collectible cars 
to take a look at it.  He said he would like to know a few things about 
painting stainless before he took on the job.  Can anyone reccomend how we 
should prepare the unpainted door?  any info would be greatly appreciated.  I 
stripped a part of the old dented door and it looks like it was sanded at an 
angle to the SS grain.  what is the best method?  The door is perfect and 
will require no bondo:)

Thanks

Dave-
#2496-interior next!



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:25:48 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: R12

$65 for 2 Lbs?  That's not so bad...

I think Pep-Boys still sells the 12oz cans (NOT 16 Oz) for $18 or so. 
You need the EPA permit to purchase it though.

A bit of advice when you buy R-12..  Make sure it it PURE R-12 and not
some crappy blend.  Some times they blend R-12 with PROPANE which can be
deadly if you have a leak in the AC system!


doctor who wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have access to cans of R-12 refrigerant. I need a can or two to
> top off my system but I dont wanna pay the ACE $65 for 2lbs worth.
> 
> thanx,
> dr c.
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:41:07 +0100
From: "nigel shepherd" <nygyl_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Memorabilia

Items of interest to d.m.c. heads

www.greatoakglass.co.uk/dmc.html

nigel shepherd



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:43:22 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: DMC RECOMMENDED S. S. POLISH

What is the brand name of this product?


VOYAG55139_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> 
> STAINLESS STEEL POLISH
> Aerosol Stainless Steel Compound
> 
> USDA A7
<SNIP>



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:30:43 EDT
From: SEDeLorean_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Fuel Mileage

Out of curiosity, what's the MPG on your DeLorean?
I put about 300 miles a week (give or take a few) on my car just going to and 
from work.  I just broke the 30k mark on my odometer last week!
Anyway, over the last FIVE fill-ups...
24.1855 mpg
20.7978
20.839
22.1615
21.773

For the most part, it's straight highway.  Once I hit the city, it's stop and 
go and up a mountain for a few miles.

How do these numbers compare?

Colby Knight
83 DMC



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:07:43 -0200
From: "Louie Golden" <louiegolden_at_dml_mailcity.lycos.com>
Subject: Re: 81 D for Sale

 
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Does anyone know how long the first production cars were made? (until what VIN #) Those are my favorite DeLoreans.(the kind with the dark wheels, gas flap hood, and black int.) When I buy my first D I want it to be one of those early cars. Any help in this matter would be appreciated- Louie


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:27:03 +0100
From: "Bob Duckworth" <wb4mnf_at_dml_atl.org>
Subject: DeLorean project/parts car for sale. $5500, green folding USA cash. Atlanta

Moving to Hawaii
Want to sell 1981 DeLorean parts car, never had time to mess with it.
Straight.
5Sp
Not running, holed piston.
Sold AS-IS.
Theft recovery, letter of sale from insurance company. Title, in my
possession,
is still in name of insurance company.
Based on what I've seen front fenders go for,
$5500 green folding USA cash, FIRM, will be an attractive price.

-bob
Atlanta



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:05:40 -0000
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: eBay item

There is a really cool Delorean item on eBay right now...check it out

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=357023988





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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:14:01 PDT
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Different DMC Fuel Senders?

Hello,
everyone is familiar with the excellent Fuel Sender from P.J. Grady called 
FuelZilla.

But when (what VIN) did the change happen from DMCs Original Fuel Sender to 
DMCs Improved Fuel Sender?

I guess that there are three Fuel Senders involved in the story. The first 
fuel sender was inaccurate, and didn't really tell you the truth as to how 
much fuel there really was leftin your tank. Then Fuel Sender number 2 came 
around. What's the story on this one? Is the second Fuel Sender almost the 
same as the third - FuelZilla? Is the second Fuel Sender 100% when it comes 
to measuring the correct amount of fuel left in your tank. Or are both DMCs 
fuel senders rubbish, and FuelZilla the only sensible thing to buy?

Who can tell me more about this?

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:27:53 -0400
From: "yugoman" <mdrig_at_dml_email.msn.com>
Subject: Car Show, Bethlehem PA

I was reading the July issue of Automobile last night, on page 112 there's a
full page ad for.. get this, a "Back to the Future" show on June 17! No
mention of a D,it had the Chrysler Turbine car and a Tucker, but with the
name of the show someone in that area HAS to enter their DeLorean! Their
info # is 1-800- 999-6810, website is
< www.concourseast.org>. Hope a few PA cars will make it!






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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:15:22 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: eBay item

Seems silly when you can buy a real front fascia for about $600.

BTW, the turn signal lights are missing from this thing.


Erik Geerdink wrote:
> 
> There is a really cool Delorean item on eBay right now...check it out
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=357023988




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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:42:59 EDT
From: WWPTVBOY_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: eBay item

Actually this is a BTTF front, not a stock DeLorean fascia.  The signal 
lights are covered by the silver screening that runs the length of the front 
bumper, where the blue chase lights are.



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:00:19 EDT
From: sugapp20_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean project/parts car for sale. $5500, green folding USA cash....

Is your car in pieces or in one piece.  

 -Nick-



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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:11:55 PDT
From: "robert parker" <roberthparker_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rotor cross reference?

MANY moons back, I replaced my front pads with '74 Capri pads from 
Whitlock's for $5.99 w/lifetime warranty. They are IDENTICAL.   Drive 
Stainless (& stop, too)       Robert    VIN 6924


>From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: eGroups Digest <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
>Subject: [DML] Rotor cross reference?
>Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:44:47 -0400
>
>It came to me in a dream last night...
>
>The rear calipers for a D are from a Jaguar... and although the Jag has
>5-bolt wheels, their caliper mounts onto the axle with 4 bolts.  It has
>that kind of "top hat" design, too.  That's very similar to the D.  If
>you look at http://www.welshent.com/brakes.htm , you'll see the shape is
>familiar.  Will it fit?
>
>Also, on a hunch, I checked out 1976 Mercury Capris (front brake
>interchange).  They use 4-bolt wheels.  I wonder if their front discs
>would fit?
>
>Just something to investigate if any of you out there in D-land need
>rotors soon.  Let us know what you find out!
>
>-Dave Stragand
>VIN #05927
>http://www.projectvixen.com
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