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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 92

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Do you have a 1/12 or 1/24 scale DeLorean model?
From: VOYAGER1058_at_dml_aol.com

2. low feul light
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Re: Do you have a 1/12 or 1/24 scale DeLorean model?
From: VOYAGER1058_at_dml_aol.com

4. Check out eBay item 354700102 (Ends Jun-20-00 09:50:25 PDT) - Back to the fut
From: VOYAGER1058_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Re: Wreck
From: bluevelvet420_at_dml_aol.com

6. Gear Magazine Article
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_home.com>

7. Re: eBay item
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Re: Rotor cross reference?
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

9. Re: 81 D for Sale
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

10. Updates from Cleveland
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

11. Re: Do you have a 1/12 or 1/24 scale DeLorean model?
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>

12. will be there
From: "Stephen Liggett" <stephen.liggett_at_dml_uc.edu>

13. Re; DMCNews Updated/New Info on Body Dies
From: "Mark" <mark_at_dml_strangeradio.com>

14. Wheel refinishing
From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k_at_dml_yahoo.com>

15. Re: low feul light
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

16. Cleveland Web Cams!
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

17. Re. Rotor cross reference
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>

18. Re: Wreck (or, Now I know Why Dave Is So Good At Auto Repair)
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

19. Show weather
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

20. i have a 1/12 scale DeLorean rc
From: efren hicks <marty_mcflyJr_at_dml_yahoo.com>

21. Re: Re; DMCNews Updated/New Info on Body Dies
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

22. Re: New Info on Body Dies
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>

23. Re: Re; DMCNews Updated/New Info on Body Dies
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

24. Re: low feul light
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

25. Re: New Info on Body Dies
From: Carson Clark <cnsandog_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:30:54 EDT
From: VOYAGER1058_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Do you have a 1/12 or 1/24 scale DeLorean model?

If any of you find a r/c delorean please tell me....When I was five I saw a 
remote controlled delorean at the BTTF shop in Universal Studios Orlando 
Florida. That was five years ago but I remember it like it was yesterday,it 
was a fid driving it around circleing around me and it bumped into my foot.Of 
course I fell Down and picked it up looked at it and set it down. I went into 
the store and my mom asked how much they were they were $50.00. Then we 
walked out and left the park.


Since then I have been calling and searching every store within 500miles and 
gave up.
So if any of you find one please post very fast.

Collin,



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:31:41 PDT
From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: low feul light

List:

How can I test my low feul light?  I have never seen it on and I have had 
the gas PRETTY LOW.  Should it come on with just the key?  Any info on a 
quick easy test is appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian 16584
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:32:05 EDT
From: VOYAGER1058_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Do you have a 1/12 or 1/24 scale DeLorean model?

$75.99 at the most.



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:05:27 EDT
From: VOYAGER1058_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Check out eBay item 354700102 (Ends Jun-20-00 09:50:25 PDT) - Back to the fut

 <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=354700102">Cl
ick here: eBay item 354700102 (Ends Jun-20-00 09:50:25 PDT) - Back to the 
future Delorean radio control MIB</A> full funtion or not.

Collin,



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:14:45 EDT
From: bluevelvet420_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Wreck

In a message dated 6/12/00 10:47:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com writes:

<<  I've been involved in seven crashes,
 including being hit by a train, a bus, a helicopter (don't ask), and a Jet 
Ski (even
 worse...) and a near miss with a plane on the runway at the Boca Raton, FL 
airport
 at F.A.U.  I've also had that car damaged by falling into the ocean, 
Hurricane
 Andrew, two tornadoes, a bolt of lightning, and a flood. >>


ok, now i have GOT to hear this story about a helicopter, and the other ones, 
but mainly the helicopter.



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:07:07 -0500
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: Gear Magazine Article

I was flipping through the new issue of "Gear" magazine,(July/August 2000),
and came
across a 2 page spread of a Delorean. It includes a column containing a
brief history on the car
and what Deloreans currently sell for. The article did a very good job of
pointing out the
negatives and the positives about our car. It's nice to see an article that
doesn't do a
hatchet job on the DMC-12.




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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:24:16 -0400
From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: eBay item

Ok... well, that doesn't answer my question. I was wondering if I could stop
by and see it. I'm close by. Flemington, NJ.

---Dan

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] eBay item


> Actually this is a BTTF front, not a stock DeLorean fascia.  The signal
> lights are covered by the silver screening that runs the length of the
front
> bumper, where the blue chase lights are.
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:52:18 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: Rotor cross reference?

Rear pads are the same as Jaguar..uk cost about 13.00.We can get them from
any local "Halfords" car parts store.

Chris  P DOC uk

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From: "robert parker" <roberthparker_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Rotor cross reference?


> MANY moons back, I replaced my front pads with '74 Capri pads from
> Whitlock's for $5.99 w/lifetime warranty. They are IDENTICAL.   Drive
> Stainless (& stop, too)       Robert    VIN 6924
>
>
> >From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
> >Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> >To: eGroups Digest <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
> >Subject: [DML] Rotor cross reference?
> >Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:44:47 -0400
> >
> >It came to me in a dream last night...
> >
> >The rear calipers for a D are from a Jaguar... and although the Jag has
> >5-bolt wheels, their caliper mounts onto the axle with 4 bolts.  It has
> >that kind of "top hat" design, too.  That's very similar to the D.  If
> >you look at http://www.welshent.com/brakes.htm , you'll see the shape is
> >familiar.  Will it fit?
> >
> >Also, on a hunch, I checked out 1976 Mercury Capris (front brake
> >interchange).  They use 4-bolt wheels.  I wonder if their front discs
> >would fit?
> >
> >Just something to investigate if any of you out there in D-land need
> >rotors soon.  Let us know what you find out!
> >
> >-Dave Stragand
> >VIN #05927
> >http://www.projectvixen.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:07:39 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: 81 D for Sale

Group, Where is the car in Dallas or how can I get in touch with them. 
John Hervey, I will go check it out.
Dallas, Texas
Dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
off,,214-221-2711
hm 972-564-9321
 vin 11004



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:16:11 -0500
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Updates from Cleveland

I have added two Cleveland links on the main page at www.dmcnews.com. One
will take you to a page that I am setting up, I'll put pictures and other
info there every night. There is also a link to Mike Babb's page where he
promises nightly updates and maybe even some video. Looks like we'll be
burning up the phone lines from Cleveland!

Stay tuned to www.dmcnews.com

Dave and the moderators.




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:05:32 +0100
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Do you have a 1/12 or 1/24 scale DeLorean model?

There is a remote control DeLorean (BTTF) on ebay right now
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=354700102

Its current bid is $66

good luck

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From: <VOYAGER1058_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Do you have a 1/12 or 1/24 scale DeLorean model?


> If any of you find a r/c delorean please tell me....When I was five I saw
a
> remote controlled delorean at the BTTF shop in Universal Studios Orlando
> Florida. That was five years ago but I remember it like it was
yesterday,it
> was a fid driving it around circleing around me and it bumped into my
foot.Of
> course I fell Down and picked it up looked at it and set it down. I went
into
> the store and my mom asked how much they were they were $50.00. Then we
> walked out and left the park.
>
>
> Since then I have been calling and searching every store within 500miles
and
> gave up.
> So if any of you find one please post very fast.
>
> Collin,
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:38:14 -0000
From: "Stephen Liggett" <stephen.liggett_at_dml_uc.edu>
Subject: will be there

Dear group,

Although Darryl won't be at the show with his modified D, I will be
bringing mine. It is a 5,000 original mile 
1981 with a 4.3 liter Chevy engine bored out to who knows what, with
custom headers, freeflow exhaust, 
4-barrel carb, and many other racing mods. Very fast--almost too much
for a Delorean. The work was 
done by a well respected racing shop in Boston --I don't beleive that
the car has ever been shown before.

Is anyone else bringing an engine swapped D to the show? I would like
to compare notes on several issues.


Steve Liggett





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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:11:56 -0400
From: "Mark" <mark_at_dml_strangeradio.com>
Subject: Re; DMCNews Updated/New Info on Body Dies

Dave,

Just wondering, but the message kinda says to me that Bryan is in the
process of restoring the dies?  If that's the case, they're already above
water...

"...There are eight (photos) all together, and they show the moulds being
pushed overboard from the ship that we are now restoring, to act as fish
farm anchors.  What a way to treat beautifully made - and extremely
expensive - castings. . "

I'd be interested in seeing what happens?  Maybe he has some other photos
(after photos) that might exist as to how salvageable the metal dies might
be after 16 years at the bottom of the North Atlantic...

If they can be (eventually) used again, I can only imagine that they'd go
for a fair amount...

Mark...
(No vin yet, but I'm trying, dammit! ;-))

>
> A couple of weeks ago I received an email with some exciting, never before
> seen information on a topic that often comes up for discussion among
> DeLorean fans.





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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:06:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cliff Andrews <fen2k_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Wheel refinishing


Im getting ready to replace my tires and want to spice
up my wheels. I would like to get my wheels stripped
down to the metal and clearcoated or powdercoated.  

I have no idea who to contact about this? What kind of
companies should i check into? Like if i looked in the
yellow pages what would i look under

-Cliff Andrews
-10854

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:09:50 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: low feul light

In a message dated 6/14/00 10:14:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
metzlynn_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

<< How can I test my low fuel light?  I have never seen it on >>

Ok, I'll admit I've seen mine come on.  Twice.  But only briefly, not 
continuously.  Don't know how to make it happen on purpose ;)  Maybe it 
happened when you weren't looking?

-Wayne
Living the dream"
11174




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:16:18 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Cleveland Web Cams!

The cleveland.com website has a webcam that watches the Rock Hall:

http://www.cleveland.com/cams/rockhall/

Friday morning from 9:30 AM to 10:00 AM you might see 70+ DeLoreans pass
through the image in front of the Rock Hall on the Driving Tour.  It updates
once per minute.

Assuming the weather is good, Saturday's Car Show will take place in the
center right section of the image.

As I write this, I can see a boat in the image, docked just behind the Rock
Hall and to the right.  This is the Goodtime III, which will take us on
Sunday morning's Lake Erie Cruise.  Feel free to log on and watch our
departure at 11:00 AM Sunday.

This Traffic cam shows a section of Freeway where the Driving Tour will pass
by (right to left) between 12:30 and 2:00 Friday afternoon.  This webcam
gives live video feed.

http://www.cleveland.com/traffic/_cam2/cam-v.frame

I'll see many of you tomorrow.  For those who aren't coming, maybe you will
see me!

- Mike Substelny

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:21:53 +0100
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Re. Rotor cross reference

The front brakes are exactly the same as a ford cortina and the rear brake
pads and callipers
are jaguar, even the park break pads are identical, the indicator switches
are of a mid 80's mini
with exactly the same Lucas part no.

for more parts conversions visit www.btinternet.com/~dmc12 and look under
the parts conversion
even add your own using the form, the list is growing steadily, take a look
and feel free to add your suggestions

cheers

James

Colchester UK

P.S.     Mr Sheen original is excellent for polishing stainless, it keeps
the fingerprints off keeps the stainless shining
and costs peanuts to buy.





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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:03:45 -0000
From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Wreck (or, Now I know Why Dave Is So Good At Auto Repair)

In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_k...> wrote:
>...But still the Gods are fickle.  I've been involved in seven
> crashes, including being hit by a train, a bus, a helicopter (don't
> ask), and a Jet Ski (even worse...) and a near miss with a plane on
> the runway at the Boca Raton, FL airport at F.A.U.  I've also had
> that car damaged by falling into the ocean, Hurricane Andrew, two
> tornadoes, a bolt of lightning, and a flood.  All of that happened
> to the same -one- car, and I still have that car to this day.


Yeah, I remember now, I saw you in "Mission Impossible."  Or was it in
a James Bond film?  Oh wait, you lived through all of them, so you
must have been on "The A-Team."  Yeah!  You were driving the black GMC
van with the red stripe, right?   :-)

Too bad you weren't in the Delorean when you got hit by lightning. 
Could have been interesting.


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN #4695
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:21:14 -0400
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Show weather

Looks like we are going to need our raingear for the show this weekend, 

see ya all there.....


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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:53:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: efren hicks <marty_mcflyJr_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: i have a 1/12 scale DeLorean rc

hey colin or list

i have mines for sale if u want it.its also mint in
the box i payed 65 like on ebay im willing to swindle
something if u really want it. if u or any one on the
list wants it im willing to trade or sale! oh and i
also have another one that looks just like a real
delorean here at some facts:

-real stainless steel finish

-gullwing doors open

-rear visor opens

-light on front and rear

-clear windows

-fully detail 

-all bttf parts/wires are off

this delorean took a month to make i built it from the
jrl toy car if some one wants it let me know (it even
has rear and front light the jrl doesn't!)

efren
16072

ps im looking for a vespa scooter




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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:04:31 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re; DMCNews Updated/New Info on Body Dies

In a message dated 6/14/00 8:43:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mark_at_dml_strangeradio.com writes:

<< Dave,
 
 Just wondering, but the message kinda says to me that Bryan is in the
 process of restoring the dies?  If that's the case, they're already above
 water...
 
 "...There are eight (photos) all together, and they show the moulds being
 pushed overboard from the ship that we are now restoring, to act as fish
 farm anchors.  What a way to treat beautifully made - and extremely
 expensive - castings. . "
  >>
Mark,

  I think you are reading that statement wrong,  try reading it this way...
 "...There are eight (photos) all together, and they show the moulds being
 pushed overboard from THE SHIP that we ARE now restoring, to act as fish
 farm anchors.  What a way to treat beautifully made - and extremely
 expensive - castings. . "

It says nothing about the molds being restored.  They are still under water 
holding down useless fish nets.
Later,
Nick
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 02:18:55 +0100
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: New Info on Body Dies

The body dies were made in Germany but the panels were pressed in Ireland.
There was a documentary produced by Robert Lamrock with interviews with one
exmployees explaining 'you had the stainless steel which came from british
stainless steel came via caroway(??) in ireland here', the front and rear
soft ends came from germany.


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From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] New Info on Body Dies


> I believe the dies are made of stainless steel. I also remember Mike
Loasby
> (former director of engineering, DMCL) talking about testing of the
> stainless steel panels on the car which were exposed to a salt environment
> equivalent to 50 years, and no damage to the panels! This was discussed in
> the documentary "Back From the Future". Now, all that is necessary is to
get
> the dies up from the ocean and then give them a nice good cleaning. I
would
> guess they would be "as new".
>
> There has also been some discussion on where these dies came from,
somebody
> talked about Germany. What I believe is true, is that the stamping company
> was based in Ireland, and this company was a smaller division of the
German
> stamping company LAPPLE. This company was owned money by DeLorean and when
> DMCL went to the wall, Lapple sold the dies as scrap - they had no use for
> them.
>
> When looking close at the pictures of the molds on the boat, they dont
seem
> to be very big, however they are probably very heavy!
>
> Maybe the folks restoring the ship that dropped off the dies would be
> interested in a "re-union" trip. This time not to drop dies, but to get
them
> aboard again. (I see a very big crane in those photos) :)
>
> The only thing else needed would be deep sea divers, who would cost quite
a
> lot of money....Another thing - how deep exactly is the ocean where the
dies
> were dropped?
>
> Who wants to go fishing?
> Ah, one can dream right!
> Anyway, it would be great to have those dies recovered. Right now there
are
> plenty of body parts left (new and used) but I continue to think about the
> future of the DeLorean. It would be nice to know that those dies were in
> safe hands. Lets give them to DMC Houston :)
>
> Best wishes
> Stian Birkeland
> NORWAY
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> >To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> >Subject: [DML] New Info on Body Dies
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:50:46 -0000
> >
> >Thanks, Dave!  That's some pretty exciting historical info there.
> >
> >So, anybody here on the list a diver?   :-)
> >
> >Seriously, if the fish company that bought the dies has since gone
> >under, then aren't the pieces just so much refuse?  Not that I think
> >they're still usable after 20 years in the water, but they'd make
> >great bookends.
> >
> >What are those dies made of, anyway?
> >
> >
> >Gus Schlachter
> >Austin, TX
> >VIN #4695
> >
> ></SNIP>
> >--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> > > It has often been reported that after the demise of the DeLorean
> > > Company in 1982, the stamping dies that were used to manufacture the
> > > stainless steel body panels for the DeLorean car were dumped into
> > > the ocean by the British Government.  This is one of those tales
> > > that is repeated often, without any proof of fact. ...Well - - out
> > > of the blue (actually cyberspace) comes some new evidence.
> ></snip>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:47:02 -0400
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Re; DMCNews Updated/New Info on Body Dies

At 03:11 PM 06/14/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Just wondering, but the message kinda says to me that Bryan is in the
>process of restoring the dies?

Actually, it's the SHIP that he and his group are restoring, not the dies.
The dies are still underwater.  The sentence was written poorly.

>"...There are eight (photos) all together, and they show the moulds being
>pushed overboard from the ship that we are now restoring, to act as fish
>farm anchors. . . "

Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL
No VIN# yet...



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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:50:42 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: low feul light

hey Brian,

  To test the low fuel light you simply have to go to the front of the car 
where the fuel tank is and connect the light green/orange wire to the black 
wire that connects to the fuel tank sending unit.  Before you do that make 
sure you turn the ignition on to get the light to turn on.  That should make 
the light illuminate.

Later,
Nick
1852



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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carson Clark <cnsandog_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Info on Body Dies


To salvage those dies if they are still on the bottom, would be a good sum of money!  The price would really depend on exactly how deep they are.  If at 100 feet or shallower you could just use SCUBA and a crane and hoist them up, but if they are deeper that that then you are talking Surface supplied Diving and decompression dives. (which would really be expensive)  Not to mention the boat that will lift and transport.  Oh and I forgot to mention trying to find them on the bottom....that could take awhile...but at least now they have things like Side Scan Sonar which can locate things alot faster.

I spent 8 years as a Navy Diver, not really doing Salvage but I have alot of friends who are Navy Salvage divers.


C

VIN 16367 

 


Stian Birkeland wrote: 


I believe the dies are made of stainless steel. I also remember Mike Loasby 
(former director of engineering, DMCL) talking about testing of the 
stainless steel panels on the car which were exposed to a salt environment 
equivalent to 50 years, and no damage to the panels! This was discussed in 
the documentary "Back From the Future". Now, all that is necessary is to get 
the dies up from the ocean and then give them a nice good cleaning. I would 
guess they would be "as new".

There has also been some discussion on where these dies came from, somebody 
talked about Germany. What I believe is true, is that the stamping company 
was based in Ireland, and this company was a smaller division of the German 
stamping company LAPPLE. This company was owned money by DeLorean and when 
DMCL went to the wall, Lapple sold the dies as scrap - they had no use for 
them.

When looking close at the pictures of the molds on the boat, they dont seem 
to be very big, however they are probably very heavy!

Maybe the folks restoring the ship that dropped off the dies would be 
interested in a "re-union" trip. This time not to drop dies, but to get them 
aboard again. (I see a very big crane in those photos) :)

The only thing else needed would be deep sea divers, who would cost quite a 
lot of money....Another thing - how deep exactly is the ocean where the dies 
were dropped?

Who wants to go fishing?
Ah, one can dream right!
Anyway, it would be great to have those dies recovered. Right now there are 
plenty of body parts left (new and used) but I continue to think about the 
future of the DeLorean. It would be nice to know that those dies were in 
safe hands. Lets give them to DMC Houston :)

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY




>From: "Gus Schlachter" 
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] New Info on Body Dies
>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:50:46 -0000
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>Thanks, Dave! That's some pretty exciting historical info there.
>
>So, anybody here on the list a diver? :-)
>
>Seriously, if the fish company that bought the dies has since gone
>under, then aren't the pieces just so much refuse? Not that I think
>they're still usable after 20 years in the water, but they'd make
>great bookends.
>
>What are those dies made of, anyway?
>
>
>Gus Schlachter
>Austin, TX
>VIN #4695
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>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Dave Swingle" wrote:
> > It has often been reported that after the demise of the DeLorean
> > Company in 1982, the stamping dies that were used to manufacture the
> > stainless steel body panels for the DeLorean car were dumped into
> > the ocean by the British Government. This is one of those tales
> > that is repeated often, without any proof of fact. ...Well - - out
> > of the blue (actually cyberspace) comes some new evidence.
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