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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. -No- torsion bar shortage!!!
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>

2. Re: Cooling Fan circuit
From: François Laplante <laplanca_at_dml_videotron.ca>

3. Re: [Re: AC question]
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Aircon Pipes
From: sand131_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Re: Cleveland and JZD
From: "Todd Masinelli" <tam966_at_dml_MIZZOU.EDU>

6. Blower Motor
From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi_at_dml_mindspring.com>

7. Re: Where are the Delorean books?
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

8. Simple headlight question
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

9. DMC 2000 Pictures and more
From: "Steven" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>

10. Coyote
From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi_at_dml_mindspring.com>

11. Cleveland Show
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

12. Re: Simple headlight question
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

13. Cleveland and JZD
From: "DMC Wannabe" <jzd_88mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>

14. Cleveland and JZD
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:31:56 -0400
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: -No- torsion bar shortage!!!

Hi All,

I'll get to "Vixen Goes to Cleveland - Day Two" as soon as I can...
however, I just wanted to let everyone know who has asked -- according
to Warren at DMC Houston, there is -no- shortage on driver's side
torsion bars.  They have plenty of them if you need one.

James and Stephen cringed when I asked about them, because they didn't
have any AT THE SHOW.  My mistake.  If you need one, just give them a
yell.  I already did.  I'd still like to find a used one if I could to
save money though, so if you have one you want to sell, drop me an
email.

And if you think I only wrote the above to get the bar cheaper, you're
right. But there isn't a shortage -- you can even call and ask for
yourself.  =)

-Dave Stragand
http://www.ProjectVixen.com
VIN #05927

More on Cleveland coming soon!




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:58:34 -0400
From: François Laplante <laplanca_at_dml_videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Cooling Fan circuit

The right front fan of the cooling system of my Delorean does not work. If I jump the live wire from the left fan, the right fan works correctly; the ground is also correct. I suppose the trouble is at the FanFail Module, where the two live wires split to the fans.
My problem: I do not find the Fan Fail Module. Could someone indicate me where in the car I could find that module? 

Thanking you in advance,


François Laplante
VIN: 17145



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:19:33 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: [Re: AC question]

Jim, If your light comes on then the fix as it is called has'n been done. I 
can send you the made up wire to do the fix and the instructions. I am now 
using a different relay to run the fans straight off the battery, not going 
thru the wiring loom. Hopefull this will eliminate some of the problems. It's 
a inductive load relay 30/40 amps. The De Loreans use a small 30/40 amp 
resistive load relay. I will post the results after I finish testing. Air 
conditing hose blew yesterday and I have a big show coming up in my business. 
I wish it would quit raining in Dallas. Hope this helps. 
John
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:21:06 EDT
From: sand131_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Aircon Pipes

In a message dated 06/19/2000 2:40:45 PM Central Daylight Time, 
gwells_at_dml_totalise.co.uk writes:

<<  I have to say that she is not
 that keen on my 'dream', calling it ' a can of beans without the label'.
 I'll have to convince her she's being a bit unfair!!
  >>
She is at least more clever than most of the comment we owners hear. Hope you 
both can come to Memphis.
Ralph
Vin 1606



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:43:27 -0500
From: "Todd Masinelli" <tam966_at_dml_MIZZOU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Re: Cleveland and JZD

> she was complaining he wouldn't sign her book,
> t hink it was Stainless Steel Illusion.

I overheard one woman telling another woman that near the PJ Grady table
during the car show, and I'm pretty sure she was holding a copy of "Dream
Maker: The Rise and Fall of John Z. DeLorean."  She said something to the
effect of, "He wouldn't sign this.  Now I'm *really* going to have to read
it!"  Perhaps we're talking about the same woman, or maybe he prefers not to
sign any of those types of books.

While we're on the subject of John Z, I have to say I thought he was a
tremendous sport for coming out and doing what he did.  The guy is what, 75
or so years old now?  To be out there in the heat, patiently signing
autographs for everyone (well, almost everyone!), is pretty impressive in my
book.  Not only did he sign my June '81 Road & Track, but he even asked for
my name so he could personalize the autograph.  Pretty cool.

_________________________
Todd Masinelli
webmaster_at_dml_jackiechan.net
http://www.jackiechan.net




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:00:53 -0400
From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Blower Motor

In the past few weeks, I have noticed that there have been several posts
talking about what needs to be done to "new" blower motors (cross reference
types) in order to get them working properly - i.e. spinning wrong
direction.  When I was at the Cleveland show, my blower motor decided to
die.  I walked over to the Houston area and walked away with a new one.  It
took me about 10 minutes in the dark with a police man watching (as I was
borrowing his flashlight) to get the new one installed.  It was actually one
of the easiest things that I have done to the car!  When I turned the system
on, everything worked exactly like it was supposed to.

What I am getting at is, you might be able to save a few bucks by using a
cross over, but buying the part (not just blower motors) from the different
suppliers will pretty much guarantee that when you use it, it will work and
it will work the way it is supposed to without any modifications.

Sean Howley
VIN#2345




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:19:08 -0500
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Where are the Delorean books?

Go to  http://www.bibliofind.com/  and type delorean in the search box
under Title. You'll get lots of hits for used books stores that have these
at very reasonable prices.

Mark N
VIN 6820


At 04:22 PM 6/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
>It's been a long time since I've been on here, but they used to
>advertise Delorean
>autobiographies someplace. I only have one copy.  Does anyone have any
>for
>sale?
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:22:37 -0400
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Simple headlight question

Hello All,

  First, the Cleveland show was fantastic, and all those other things
everyone else already said... and special thanks to Ken and everyone who
helped pull it off.

   Second, upon arriving back to Boston, I realized that I get only one
headlight on (driver's side) with the low beam, but all four come on with
the high beam... where should I look for the problem?

Thanks,

-Hank Eskin




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:39:36 -0500
From: "Steven" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>
Subject: DMC 2000 Pictures and more

Hello All,

     First of all, I was very glad that I had the chance to attend the 2000 DeLorean Car Show and Tour in Cleveland.  This has to be one of my greatest experiences with the DeLorean.  Thanks to Ken Koncelik and his family for putting this event together, as well a Kathryn DeLorean.  The largest thanks has to go to John DeLorean for actually attending the events, and allowing us to pester him for autographs and pictures.  Thanks John!  We really appreciate everything you've done for us, including the question and answer cession.  Although I'm not an owner, I really enjoyed it, and will definately be attending two years in Memphis, Tennessee.  And as for the 'Nobody gets lost' Driving Ralley, that was really fun, although the detours kinda got in our way, we made it back.  I, as well as many others, had taken along a video camera as well as digital camera and snapped lots of pictures and footage.  In the not-to-distant future, I will be uploading images and videos of the DeLorean events of the weekend.  It was also nice to meet the people whose posts I've been reading for the past two years on the DML.  Also, I've made a collage of the DeLorean's license plates during the car show.  The image is on my website, http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/DMCViper/index.html.  Please note that all DeLoreans license plates are not in this image.  A pretty good bit of D's had taken their license plates off, as well as many having the phony "OUTATIME" license plates.  Sorry if I did not get your license plates on here, a few had obsticles in the way of my camera.  Enjoy the image, and I hope to see you in two years...  I may have a DeLorean, or maybe not.  Only time will tell, See ya later...

Steven Lawrence
vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net
VIN# - not yet.....
My DeLorean Website
http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/DMCViper/index.html


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:58:17 -0400
From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Coyote

Recently (and a while back) there has been a few questions about the Coyote used on the "Harcastle and McCormick" TV show.  I was checking out a Manta site (kit car) and they have a location on their site talking briefly about this.  As it turns out, the Coyote was a modified Manta kit car, and as they describe, a DeLorean was modified to "fit" Brian Keith (Hardcastle).  On this site, they have several pictures of the Coyote kit car as well as a couple of the DeLorean that was modified.

http://www.mantacars.com/

On the left, click on "Montage Pictures" and look for "Coyote" below.  There will be a short write-up followed by the pictures.

Sean Howley
VIN#2345


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:04:35 -0400
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Cleveland Show

Just thought I'd add my two cents about the Cleveland show

WWOOOOWWW!!!!

Thank you Ken

Sorry I didn't get to meet all the people I wanted to from the list. I didn't even get to use all the tickets I bought for the Science Museum or the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame. 

Rob, I enjoyed your presentation on the fuel system and I think I narrowed my cold start problem down to a clogged up warm up regulator.

So, how many people did finish the rally on Friday????


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:56:29 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Simple headlight question

In a message dated 6/19/00 9:47:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net writes:

<< 
    Second, upon arriving back to Boston, I realized that I get only one
 headlight on (driver's side) with the low beam, but all four come on with
 the high beam... where should I look for the problem? >>
Hank,

     Sounds like you need a new low beam for the passenger side.  Since the 
low beams are low/high beams in one, there is a different filament for the 
low beam, and thats the one that burned out.  Hope that helps.

Later,
Nick
1852



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:31:33 -0000
From: "DMC Wannabe" <jzd_88mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Cleveland and JZD

   Hello List,
  Wanted to get my kudos in before this thread is killed.
1st. to Ken K. Mucho kudo's man!!!! I dont know how you
did it by yourself but WOW! you did a heck of a job.
It was real nice to see a couple of Bricklins and Lotus
Esprits there too. I have never seen these cars before
which made it that much nicer. 2nd. to JZD and Kathryn
it was very nice meeting both of you. I am sorry about
using the barrage method but I was (blushes) overcome
with excitement. Thanks John for autograghing my book
and Playboy then posing with me so my dad could take
photo's. 3rd. Evereyone else who made this an excellent
expierience for me and my dad.
  The DMC Wannabe
  P.S. Someone wrote the list saying he didnt have a good
time, I am sorry to hear this. My dad has MS and it is VERY
hard for him to walk for any length of time plus drive
a stick van but he enjoyed himself very much and wants
a delorean of his own! I drove 22 hours from southern 
florida (wish you could have came with me tom!) and still
missed the dinner but loved it all. (Sorry for rasmbling)




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:04:40 EDT
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Cleveland and JZD

Well, not that it has been covered enough already but then again I don't 
think there are enough words to describe the incredible job Ken did on the 
Cleveland 2000 Car Show.  All events were extremely enjoyable and 
entertaining.  The number of DeLoreans that attended the show was most 
impressive.  In fact even the drive out for me (525 miles) was even 
enjoyable.  The DeLorean is one of the most comfortable cars I have ever 
driven.  I havent driven my D as far as I did this past weekend so I was a 
little apprehensive.  Well, it performed flawlessly and the 9 hour drive 
seemed to go by very fast.  I had met John DeLorean and his daughter at his 
estate here in NJ this past summer.  Seeing him again was great.  He was so 
friendly to everyone and went out of his way to speak with everyone and 
answer their questions.  I was happy he remembered me when he saw me and even 
asked me to sit with him for breakfast one morning.  I am glad everyone had 
the opportunity to see what a personable man he truly is.  As far as the show 
itself it was something that I will always remember.  Seeing all the faces of 
the email addresses we have all come to know on the DML was great.  It makes 
you feel privileged to be a DeLorean owner and be part of such a special 
group of people.  Thanks to Ken and all the individuals of the DeLorean Club 
of Ohio who made it what it was.

Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
VIN 3360


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