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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 360
Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:41 PM

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There are 22 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Delorean Found
From: "Scott Duke" <s1lvrdo_at_dml_hotmail.com>

2. Re: a/c blower performace observations )
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

3. DMC Houston Event in Arizona
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>

4. Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

5. Inertia Switch Caveat
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

6. Safety Features
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

7. Delorean production Chronology For D.O.A. cars
From: "Claude " <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>

8. Re: Re: a/c blower performace observations )
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

9. Re: Delorean _at_dml_ L.A. Auto Show 2006
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

10. Submerged DeLorean
From: rbrogren_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: Delorean Service - Garden Grove (Los Angeles) Any comments?
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

12. loose climate control plate and bad knob
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: Delorean Crash test video
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs_at_dml_flash.net>

14. Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?
From: "mdrig" <mdrig_at_dml_email.msn.com>

15. Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?
From: CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com

16. Re: Safety Features
From: CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: Safety Features
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_jamesik.com>

18. Re:Safety Features
From: "Claude " <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>

19. Re: loose climate control plate and bad knob
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

20. De Lorean on Jim Varney E! True Hollywood story
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

21. Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

22. Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:45:00 -0500
From: "Scott Duke" <s1lvrdo_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Delorean Found

Hi enthusiasts and owners:

I live in Greenville North Carolina and there is a Delorean a block down 
from my apartment.  It appears to be an 81' with the gas flap in the hood.  
Black Interior that looks imacculate.  23000 original miles  last inspection 
was in 89 I believe.  It has been in the shop for many months at a 
"Eurasian" shop.  If someone would like a vin let me know.  I do know that 
it sat for a long while and is now being totally revamped mechanically.  The 
rear facia is off and all new rubber is visual.

Scott

Vin-????

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:50:25 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: a/c blower performace observations )

Before anyone just purchases the correct parts from their favorite 
Delorean parts vendor it would be better for them to diagnose the 
problem so they can be sure that when they get that "correct" part the 
problem will indeed be fixed. Yes, when you order from a Delorean 
vendor you will get the right part but suppose someone just purchased 
their car and had this problem. They wouldn't know what to do or where 
to go or if the fan motor or fan wasn't correct. Walt's explaination 
goes a long way in helping to understand how to figure out what to do. 
As DMC Joe points out the Mode switch could be the source of the 
trouble if in fact the vacum actuators are not moving the vent doors 
correctly or the mode switch is leaking vacum. Another point to 
remember is when you order what you think you need a little advice 
from the Delorean vendor may help you sort out the trouble and help 
you realize the true source of your problem, not always what you 
think! When you patronize the Delorean vendors and buy most of your 
parts from them you can also avail yourself of their intimite 
knowledge of the car. Most will be only too happy to help over the 
phone with you or the shop that you take your car to. Then the least 
you can do to support them is to try to buy your parts from them.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




-- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> There is a very easy solution to this problem: purchase the blower 
from your
> favorite DeLorean supplier and you will get the right motor, with 
the right
> squirrel cage, turning in the right direction.
> 
> "We're here to help you"
> 
> DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_a...>
> Web Site: (TEMPORARY)<www.geocities.com/dmcjoe>
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Walter <Whalt_at_dml_a...>
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:14 AM
> Subject: [DML] a/c blower performace observations (long)
> 
> 
> > If your a/c vents aren't putting out the amount of air you think 
they
> should
> > be, then I might have the solution to your problem.
> >




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:03:49 -0700
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: DMC Houston Event in Arizona

Dear List,

As James briefly mentioned earlier in the day, the Arizona DeLorean Club
will be hosting the second (annual?  How about it Stephen and James? ;-)) De
Lorean Motor Company Tech Day at Mesa Auto Works on Saturday, January 20.
Last year, Mr. Wynne came and gave each of the cars there a top-to-bottom
diagnostic and road test.  This year, though, Stephen will be bringing James
along as well as Bill Morgan, one of their expert mechanics.  They’ll be
demonstrating various procedures, such as window regulator replacement (on
my car), weatherstripping installation, and headliner replacement.  Torsion
bar adjustments will also be done.

De Lorean Motor Company will be bringing their motor home and it will be
loaded with any parts the attendees request.  Stan Davis, the owner of Mesa
Auto Works (many of the Arizona owners utilize this shop), has been kind
enough to give us full access to his equipment. This is a "goodwill" event.
That is, no labor fees charged if your car is checked out or used as in one
of the demonstrations, but it's a nice idea to purchase the parts from DMC,
since they have made the effort to come here.

Anyone is welcome.  I sent out a more detailed mailing to all of the Arizona
owners on my roster, but if anyone on the DML is reading this and I missed
you, e-mail me for the full details (time, directions, etc.).  Also, if
anyone else cares to make a road trip out of it, feel free.  I can’t
guarantee a prize for furthest miles traveled, but I can try ;-).

So far, I have 13 cars confirmed and 15 owners.  And as James mentioned,
they’ll be bringing along one of their 200hp high performance engine cars.
This is the first public showing of the engine, and all attendees will be
given the opportunity to test drive the car.

Feel free to contact myself or Randal Brown (rwbrown(at)mmm.com) for more
details.

Ryan McCaffrey
Arizona DeLorean Club
ryanjm(at)home.com


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:07:52 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?

I've never seen it done on a Delorean. The Bricklin did this. 
Problems: 

---waiting for the door to open in the rain. Not very fast; 
---Most of the early Hydraulic ones were converted to air power. 
Nothing quite like spraying hydraulic (i.e. brake) fluid all over 
your interior to make your day. Makes the leather shiny though;
---The Air power door required a significant reservoir, I believe 
this tank was installed in the rear bumper. More weight and 
complexity. A pump somewhere;
---The Bricklin pressurized strut was HUGE (and IMHO ugly) in 
comparison to the DeLorean's, and the DeLorean doors are much 
heavier. You'd have to leave the torsion bar in place.

All in all the DMC design is pretty elegant, and with the proper 
torsion bar adjustments and a remote control you can get the doors 
to "pop" open on command.

Dave Swingle===> Please DON'T turn this into a Bricklin thread. I'm 
only using it for reference!


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_f...> wrote:
> Has anyone ever thought about replacing the gas struts on the 
delorean
> with hydraulics? It seems that the benefits to this would be that 
the





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:21:34 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Inertia Switch Caveat

Although the thread that brings this up is dead (I can't believe I'm 
doing this!), it is important to note that if you have indeed 
disconnected the lock control module (as is VERY often recommended on 
this list), in a accident the tripping of the inertia switch will no 
longer unlock the doors. Seems obvious, but never mentioned.  

Another good reason to either NEVER lock the doors when you are 
inside the car, or fix the lock circuit properly. 

Dave Swingle




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:09:58 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Safety Features

After following the "rollover thread" it occurred to me that there are 
many safety features in the car in the event of something like a 
rollover. There is a valve in the gas tank filler neck to prevent fuel 
from comming out in a rollover. The inertia switch should shut down 
the fuel pump and unlock the doors. The restraining brackets will keep 
the hood from intruding into the windscreen. There is no airbag but if 
you wear the lap-shoulder belt you will survive most accidents.
 The safety glass will break into small pieces. The steering column 
will collapse if the impact is severe enough. The crumple tubes can 
absorb a considerable amount of frontal impact. The fuel tank is built 
like a fuel cell and is in a protected area of the frame. All in all 
it would seem like the car is built for safety. The biggest concern I 
have when driving my "D" is that on today's roads with the great 
number of SUV's if I were to be in an accident I would probably wind 
up on the bottom(right side up but still on the bottom) not a very 
survivable position. The rescuers would get the people on top of me 
out first and then see if there was anything left alive underneath. I 
have also noticed that as a stainless car in some conditions it seems 
invisible. On many occasions driving with other "D"s I have seen 
drivers change lanes and do other crazy things as if they just don't 
see the car. Maybe since the car is so low they don't even see it in 
the mirrors?
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757





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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:42:24 -0000
From: "Claude " <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Delorean production Chronology For D.O.A. cars

How about a vin list for Dead Deloreans (cars that became parts cars 
and can never be restored) or at least be able to be included in the 
Delorean Vin Listing,as I had two DOA deloreans,and it would be nice 
to have them be known that they are not a "missing Delorean" and 
possibly a area to post,if you are looking for a certain vin number 
Delorean,as I have noticed in past posts that there are people in 
search of a perticular vin Number that may not be in the D.P.C.

Claude
000570 




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:12:29 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: a/c blower performace observations )

David,

On behalf of myself and the other DeLorean parts suppliers; thanks for your
positive comments.

Sincerely,
DMC Joe

"We're here to help you"

De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: (TEMPORARY)<www.geocities.com/dmcjoe>

----- Original Message -----
From: <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: a/c blower performace observations )


> Before anyone just purchases the correct parts from their favorite
> Delorean parts vendor it would be better for them to diagnose the
> problem so they can be sure that when they get that "correct" part the
> problem will indeed be fixed. Yes, when you order from a Delorean
> vendor you will get the right part but suppose someone just purchased
> their car and had this problem. They wouldn't know what to do or where
> to go or if the fan motor or fan wasn't correct. Walt's explaination
> goes a long way in helping to understand how to figure out what to do.
> As DMC Joe points out the Mode switch could be the source of the
> trouble if in fact the vacum actuators are not moving the vent doors
> correctly or the mode switch is leaking vacum. Another point to
> remember is when you order what you think you need a little advice
> from the Delorean vendor may help you sort out the trouble and help
> you realize the true source of your problem, not always what you
> think! When you patronize the Delorean vendors and buy most of your
> parts from them you can also avail yourself of their intimite
> knowledge of the car. Most will be only too happy to help over the
> phone with you or the shop that you take your car to. Then the least
> you can do to support them is to try to buy your parts from them.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757





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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:16:00 -0800
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean _at_dml_ L.A. Auto Show 2006

This is probably too remote (but what the heck, the drive is beautiful):
Couer D'Alene, Idaho!  It is a pacific northwest resort destination with
plenty of facilities and things to do.   Also a real car crazy town!

Try:  www.couerdalene.org/
        www.cdaresort.com/
        www.citylightz.com/v_1/HotRodCafe/HotRodCafe1.htm

Spokane airport is only 30 min. away.

Don Ekhoff

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To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Delorean _at_dml_ L.A. Auto Show 2006


> Any Ideas where to have the 25th in 2006
> I haven't chosen a location yet for the DeLorean Car Show 2006 but I have
a
> few places in mind already.
>
> Ken
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:25:32 EST
From: rbrogren_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Submerged DeLorean

 In #359 Steve Rubano wrote:

> Opening the doors under water? that's a good question, it may be a 
> little easier than a conventional car door since you are assisted by 
> 

The torsion bars and struts are puny compared to the outside water pressure 
on a submerged car. In a "normal" car the ONLY way to get out is to roll down 
a window and let the water in to equalize the pressure. After releasing the 
seat belt! Float up on the water, or at least hold the head up in the 
remaining air pocket while the water floods in.
If the doors still can't be opened, swim out the window.

This would be tough in a D, so the only remaining way would be to kick out a 
side window and that sounds like a tough proposition while being under water 
and holding your breath! (I understand that the side windows are not 
laminated so I wouldn't kick them out or break them with a hammer until the 
water pressure is equalized. Then again, bloody legs are better than 
drowning!)
Like in any other emergency: Stay cool, think, don't panic and it will be 
amazing what you can do!
Roger


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:46:01 -0800
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean Service - Garden Grove (Los Angeles) Any comments?

Don  S. just got in a production run of rear bumper stainless letter inserts
(DeLorean) and they look great.  They are wire EDM Machined out of heavy
gauge stainless sheet.  Just an FYI.

Don Ekhoff.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Spratt" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Delorean Service - Garden Grove (Los Angeles) Any
comments?


> Don Steger at DeLorean Motor Centre is in Garden Grove. His Number is 714
554 6794
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:20:28 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
> Subject: [DML] Delorean Service - Garden Grove (Los Angeles) Any comments?
>
> > Anyone have any experience good or bad. I'm in need of input. D1 is
> > to far for service and upgrades and I can't bring myself to send it
> > to Texas on a truck from Los Angeles unless it's a big job.
> >
> > One of the best places to take your Ferrari is Ferrari Houston. This
> > is kind of weird. Why is Texas so popular a place for these cars?
> >
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:24:23 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: loose climate control plate and bad knob

Hello all,

as my D sits in storage, i have been visiting it every so often ( a couple 
times a week) to check it out, and in the process, making mental notes of 
everything i will need to order this spring to finish up the car (the more 
immediate things anyway... i'm sure it will never be PERFECT!).   anyway, 
here is an annoying problem i have had since day one (veterans day 2000), 
which i had forgotten about until today.

my problem is that the climate control knobs keep popping off.  the one that 
comes off on its own is the center selector.  the other two are just loose, 
and easily come off when you pull them.  when you try to put the center one 
back on, it feels like there isn't enough 'knob' to push the piece back on.  
now this may be true, but i think the real problem is that the actual plate 
itself (with the big sticker on it) is too loose, and it keeps working its 
way forward, eventually forcing the knob off.  today i took all three knobs 
off, and the center plate is easily removed.  should it be like this? i do 
not see any kind of fastening piece to hold it in there, except for the three 
knobs.  

on a related note, i remember when i was driving the car around this fall, 
that the third position on the fan speed didn't seem to work.  speed 1 was 
barely blowing (i mean, i'm not even sure if the fan was turning more than 5 
times per second), speed two was a little better, 3 didn't do anything, and 4 
was pretty good.  maybe the switch needs cleaning? any other ideas? it has 
been too cold for me to open all that stuff up (but it is starting to get 
nicer, as in, not below zero).

i would especially appreciate any good ideas on what to do about the climate 
control plate.

thanks in advance,
Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:20:01 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs_at_dml_flash.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean Crash test video

> I have a 5 or 6 th generation copy of the Delorean Crash test video of the
> prototype car eqiupment with both driver and passenger air bags.

Does anyone have a cleaner and clearer copy of this video.  We would like to
be able to show it in Memphis.

I can digitize it, to prevent any further generational loss during
duplication.

Bob Brandys





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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:17:21 -0500
From: "mdrig" <mdrig_at_dml_email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?

Most Bricklins have been converted to air doors, my wife's 75 has them.
Hydraulics were prone to leak and slow in opening (about 8-10 seconds for
your door to open, especially in the rain or cold!).
My doors sag a bit even with brand new struts, guess I'm in need of the
dreaded torsion bar adjustment.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Williams" <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:46 PM
Subject: [DML] Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?


> Has anyone ever thought about replacing the gas struts on the delorean
> with hydraulics? It seems that the benefits to this would be that the
> doors would always open to their full height (no drooping) and that they
> could be opened and closed by means of a remote control, or other electric
> controls. The only cons I can think of would be having to add a hydraulic
> system somewhere in the already small car, and the cost of doing this. Any
> thoughts?
>
> -Christian
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:39:37 EST
From: CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?

In my opinion, the current system of opening the DeLorean's gullwing doors is 
absolutely remarkable. With the power of the grumman-produced torsion bar, 
the door gets enough lift to pop up all the way and be held in place by a 
single tiny strut. The door opens normally, without the need of huge pumps 
(air or otherwise) to lift the doors up. Many people have tried to get the 
gullwing door right, and only DeLorean did it correctly. Ive been in million 
dollar Mercedes race coupes with gullwing doors (present day models) and the 
doors are no where near as nice or impressive as the DeLoreans.

If you are going for show trickery with remote opening doors, Rob Grady of PJ 
Grady is developing a remote door actuator which will allow the door to pop 
open remotely givin that you dont have weak door struts.

In the end, the DeLorean door is simple, easy to use, and rarely do we have 
too much trouble with them. Sure the door might jam shut from time to time 
but that usually doesnt have anything to do with the strut. When you compare 
that system to that of the Bricklin which uses all of the mechanics you were 
interested in, the DeLorean system is much safer, more reliable, and easy to 
use.

Just my two cents.

Justin
5172
Houston TX



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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:50:45 EST
From: CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Safety Features

David Teitelbaum has some great points. The DeLorean was designed as a safety 
sports car with lots of thought put into the little things, many of which 
were mentioned by David. But its still an extremely low sports car that 
attracts alot of attention. I dont know how many times when I take the D out 
people either A) neglect the fact that im next to them as if I dont exist or 
B) Try to prove that they have a faster car than me....2 days ago some kid in 
a minivan tried to race me and cut me off....please.  

As far as the SUV thing, thats what really scares me. My other car is an 
Expedition, and when I park the DeLorean next to it, all I see out the side 
window is a huge wheel and the bottom of a door. But if that were coming 
toward me at 55 mph thru a red light, it wouldnt be pretty. But I guess thats 
a risk we have to take and the only thing we can do is remember that this is 
a 3000 pound saftey vehicle and try to look out for unsafe drivers.

Justin
5172
Houston TX



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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:46:36 -0500
From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_jamesik.com>
Subject: Re: Safety Features

For whatever the reason, people CANNOT see you!! I found out the hard way
when a 19 year-old girl pulled right in front of me - she said that she
didn't see me coming. Be careful out there - think that you are invisible
and watch out for others.
And speaking about how safe the D is I have to say that it is pretty strong
compared to todays cars. You can see my D how it looked after the accident
by going to this page: www.delorean.com/404.htm . Fascia, fender, hood and
some fiberglass damage. Frame, doors or any other part of the car was not
affected. But the other car.... it was a brand new Nissan Altima (with some
400 miles on it). The whole car bent like a bannana, front wheels were at a
45 degree angle to the ground, transmission fluid spilled all over... The
engine did run, but the car was not drivable and was totalled.
So, DeLorean survived the crash much better and soon it will be back on the
road. The Nissan died.

Be careful out there,
Tom Niemczewski
vin 6298
tomcio_at_dml_jamesik.com

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>I
> have also noticed that as a stainless car in some conditions it seems
> invisible. On many occasions driving with other "D"s I have seen
> drivers change lanes and do other crazy things as if they just don't
> see the car. Maybe since the car is so low they don't even see it in
> the mirrors?
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:45:21 -0000
From: "Claude " <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Re:Safety Features

either A) neglect the fact that im next to them as if I dont exist 

What I would suggest is driving with your headlights on,just as 
motorcycle riders do,so that you could be seen by the SUV drivers.And 
just like motorcycle riders be aware of what is around you.AND Install
air horns(the kind like the big rigs have)that should get the 
attention of anybody that would not see you.

Claude
000570




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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:51:27 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: loose climate control plate and bad knob

There should be a small phillips sunk-head screw under the mode 
control knob. This holds the acrylic panel in place. You'll probably 
see a hole in the panel there. Keep the screw short or it will run 
into the mode switch and do Bad Things. 

Dave Swingle


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
>but i think the real problem is that the actual plate 
> itself (with the big sticker on it) is too loose, and it keeps 
working its 
> way forward, eventually forcing the knob off.  today i took all 
three knobs 
> off, and the center plate is easily removed.  should it be like 
this? i do 
> not see any kind of fastening piece to hold it in there, except for 
the three 
> knobs.  





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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:05:34 EST
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: De Lorean on Jim Varney E! True Hollywood story

Hey List,

     Last night I was watching the E! True Hollywood story because I remember 
hearing that Jim Varney owned one and thought they might show it, and they 
did!  It was only in the show for a few seconds, then after they showed it 
the narrator said that Jim and a friend of his wanted to see how fast it 
would do, but I forgot the rest of what was said.  If you check out the E! 
web page www.eonline.com       I am sure they will tell you when it will be 
on again.

Later,
Nick
1852
Http://members.aol.com/njp548



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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:17:12 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?

In a message dated 1/10/01 1:22:59 PM Central Standard Time, 
CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com writes:


> In the end, the DeLorean door is simple, easy to use, and rarely do we have 
> too much trouble with them. Sure the door might jam shut from time to time 
> but that usually doesnt have anything to do with the strut. When you 
> compare 
> that system to that of the Bricklin which uses all of the mechanics you 
> were 
> interested in, the DeLorean system is much safer, more reliable, and easy 
> to 
> use.
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 
> Justin
> 5172
> Houston TX
> 

I totally agree.  not only are you right about all of the above, but the 
doors open at just the right speed.  i feel that mechanical assistance, such 
as hydraulics, would only make the doors open slower, or at a dangerously 
fast rate.  the only thing to gain by having hydraulic doors is the 
impressiveness of being able to open your doors AND close them from inside a 
building....

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:23:05 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Doors on DeLorean?

I agree that the DeLorean door design is excellent as it is.  Hydraulics or
pneumatics would not be an improvement.

Often DeLoreans with chronic drooping doors need a torsion bar adjustment.

Remember, many cars have had door guides, stronger window actuators, beefier lock
solenoids, and other parts added to their doors since they left the factory.
These added weight, and without a torsion bar adjustment it will automatically
cause the doors to droop.  My personal suspicion is that many DeLoreans have had
their doors modified without an appropriate torsion bars adjustment to accomodate
the extra weight.

I know that mine is one of them.

- Mike Substelny
VIN 1280, 7 years, slight droop on cold days




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