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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 369
Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:43 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. DeLorean Estate (was Errata)
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: Where to put an antenna...
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

3. Torsion bar adjustment
From: "W.D.SEARLS, JR." <Buckeye99_at_dml_copper.net>

4. Stainless Steel Frame
From: jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net

5. Re: Towing v. Driving with a bad ex. man. gasket ... :\
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>

6. Re: Stainless Steel Frame
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

7. Stainless Steel Frame Demise
From: "dmc1982" <dmc1982_at_dml_email.msn.com>

8. Re: Torsion bar adjustment
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

9. ATTN: owners who have replaced their entire stereo
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: Towing v. Driving with a bad ex. man. gasket ... :\
From: "Claude " <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>

11. silly question...
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

12. Re: Emissions test and Transmission damage?
From: jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net

13. Re: Looking for a D for a photo-op in Clearwater FL this weekend
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

14. Re: Re: Stainless Steel Frame
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

15. Re: Delorean on NOS
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

16. DeLorean on TV
From: Henry Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

17. Re: Stainless Steel Frame
From: fjk143_at_dml_aol.com

18. Re: Re: Emissions test and Transmission damage?
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

19. Hawaii?
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>

20. Re: Tow Dolly v. Car Carrier
From: Farrar Hudkins <smeghead79_at_dml_home.com>

21. Re: Water In the Fuel Tank?
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

22. Re: ATTN: owners who have replaced their entire stereo
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

23. SS Frame + Poll...
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com>

24. Re: silly question...
From: "JDL" <jdl_at_dml_interax.com>

25. Collecter plates was Emissions test and Transmission damage
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:25:06 EST
From: delorean31_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Estate (was Errata)

On this topic, I was recently at the DeLorean Estate.  I have spoken to the 
caretaker who is overseeing the work there several times.  Recently as Marc 
pointed out there was a charity event there this fall and we sent some cars 
to display out front of the main house for the event.  They are currently 
restoring various parts of the house.  When I was there a few weeks ago I was 
invited to go through the house again.  They had just refinished the floors 
in a few rooms.  The plan is for it to remain essentially as it is with some 
modifications to accomodate it being part of the club house of the new golf 
course, Lamington Farms.  They are doing a lot of work but it is still 
essentially the same now as it was when John was there minus the furniture of 
course.  In fact John's three sheep dogs have remained on the property and 
are being cared for.  Part of the agreement.  In any event I have been 
talking with the manager of the project.  He is interested in again having a 
get together at the Estate this spring.  This time for the members of 
DeLorean Mid Atlantic and of course any other DeLorean Owner or Enthusiast 
who would like to attend.  I am going to try to set it up over the next few 
months.  Hopefully it will work out.  It was in fact their idea.  It will 
probably be the last chance for any who have not seen the DeLorean Estate to 
see it as now as it was when JZD lived there.  By this summer I am sure they 
will be well underway with transforming it in to the new golf course.  Anyone 
who is interested in attending the event with their car let me know privately 
and I will keep a list.  Makes for a great photo op for your car in front of 
the main house.  I have pictures on my web site for those who would like to 
see when I was there while JZD was still there.  The link is below.  Click on 
the "My meeting with JZD" link.  I will keep you posted.

Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
VIN 3360
http://hometown.aol.com/DeLorean31/index.html

<In a message dated 1/15/01 5:22:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:

Developing??  Hmm..  When a few of us were there for a charity event in the

> Fall, the care taker told us it will be a country club.  We even picked up a 
> few
> of their golf balls with the "Lamington Farms" logo stamped on it.  



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:39:45 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: Where to put an antenna...

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> I don't want to make a hole
> in the T-panel. I've looked at a Glass-antenna (with a whip on
> the outside and a reciever on the inside of the windshield), 
> but this looks rather ugly.
> I've also considered putting it on the enginecover, but I'm
> afraid the metal surrounding it then (edges of quarterpanels)
> would interfere with reception...

Try putting it on the top louver.  You should be able to find some 
small clips you could put around the lip of the louver, or use some 
kind of adheasive.  This way you wouldn't need to drill a hole in it 
like you feared with T-panel.  You can then simply run the wire with a 
little slack on the side of the louver to allow it to still be raised.

Even with a hands free system, I still dont reccomend driving while 
talking on a phone!

Jim Reeve
-6960




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:28:07 -0500
From: "W.D.SEARLS, JR." <Buckeye99_at_dml_copper.net>
Subject: Torsion bar adjustment

My drivers side door sags at about halfway. The strut on the door is less
than 3 months old(from DeloreanOne). I live in Ohio and it is about 40
degress right now. I have heard that the doors can sag in cold weather but I
didn't know how much they should sag. Anyway if I were to adjust the torsion
bar how would I do it?

Joel

03121





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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:38:05 -0000
From: jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net
Subject: Stainless Steel Frame

I don't have nearly the experience of the other listers but I have 
some comments myself.

I've been looking for a similar situation. I'd prefer to get a car 
thats at least drivable but needs to be saved. I want to keep as many 
of these things alive as possiable.

So far it's been easier to find better examples then worse ones. You 
can find cars to save but it's going to be hard to find exactly what 
your looking for. The other thing is that cars that need saving are 
often a worse value then a better car.

If you want to save a car it's going to cost more to save a car then 
get one that doesnt need much.

There is something to be said for the stainless steel frame. I would 
love to do it myself. The problem is mainly costs. The frame intself 
is around $7000+ before any labor or installation parts. That plus an 
average car needs saving at your at the lower end of the average 
priced DeLorean.

Regards,

Jeremy



   From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Stainless Steel Frame



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:24:42 -0500
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: Re: Towing v. Driving with a bad ex. man. gasket ... :\

"Steve Rubano" wrote:

> Instead of using a tow dolly (only raises 2 wheels off the ground) or
> spending the hundreds of dollars on flat bedding/towing your new
> purchase there is another alternative. What I did when I got my D
> (was not drivable at ALL) was I went to the local Uhaul place and
> rented a full car caddy.

If you decide to go the U-Haul route, do NOT tell them it is for a
DeLorean.  They look at their little book and it says a DeLorean will
not fit on there.  It is a very tight squeeze, but it can be done.  I
believe that the reason was that the U-Haul trailer's maximum width is
70", but the D is 71" wide.  It also mentions in the book that the
U-Haul is too low and the door will swing out and hit the trailer
fenders.  That would be the case if the D door was a 'normal' door
swinging out sideways, but since it opens -up-, it's not a problem.

In general I have found that being as vague as possible at U-Haul always
pays off...

-Dave Stragand
http://www.ProjectVixen.com
VIN# 05927




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:52:55 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Frame

The creator of the SS frame, Bryan Pearce, is still on the list. He 
may join in here, but is pretty busy with real life. 

To date, there has been exactly one of the frames manufactured, the 
one on Bryan's car. He has now driven it as his only car for several 
years and tens of thousands of miles.  The car is a year-around daily 
driver on the salty winter roads here in Chicago, and the frame looks 
exactly as the day it was built. It's not especially pretty, he did 
not polish it up to a mirror finish. It just looks like industrial 
bare stainless steel. No sign of cracking or deterioration.

As far as restoring a car with a rusted frame, you'll see all kinds, 
but in general if the frame has rusted badly enough to warrant 
replacement, you'll need many of the parts that are attached to the 
frame as well. I've seen a few, and the fuel fittings, brake 
fittings, small brackets, and even the trailing arms may be junk. And 
you are correct, in most cases any car that sat around long enough to 
rust like this was outdoors, and all of the topside stuff (interior, 
rubber seals, dash etc) is garbage too.

Nick (NJP548) may want to pipe in her too. He is doing that same job 
(to a standard frame) and can vouch for the degree of difficulty (not 
too bad) and amount of small-parts changing you'll have to do (lots). 

If you are planning on paying someone to do all this ahead of 
shipping to the UK, you'd better have a very full checkbook. 

This sort of thing is impossible to estimate on a "ferinstance" 
basis, it is tremendously variable based on the condition of the car 
you start with. 

Honestly, if I had my heart set on investing in the SS frame, I'd 
probably start with the best car I could and sell off the (good) old 
frame to someone else. I would not want to put this kind of 
investment in a marginal car. It would probably be cheaper in the 
long run and you'd end up with a much nicer car. If this sounds like 
the $20K speech+frame, it probably is. But you'd have the closest 
thing to a bulletproof lifetime DMC that you could. 

Dave Swingle


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_h...> wrote:

> 2. A DeLorean with a rusty frame probably was never cared for 
> properly, so there might be a lot more wrong with the car. Suppose 
it 
> sat for a *long* time, could someone who brought a similar car back 
> to life tell me how much this might cost? For example what would 
> 
> 3. How many hours might it take a DeLorean Service centre to change 
> the chassis, including swopping over parts from the old chassis?





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:35:16 -0500
From: "dmc1982" <dmc1982_at_dml_email.msn.com>
Subject: Stainless Steel Frame Demise

Actually it was potential stress cracking with temperatures sub-zero and the
subsequent fear of lawsuits if it failed in the US market that led to the
use of the epoxy coated steel frame.

Cecil Longwisch
#10663





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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:58:20 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment

If your door sags that much chances are a torsion bar adjustment is 
required. Try removing the strut after proping open the door, slowly 
lower the door and it should remain open 2-5 inches. If it does not DO 
NOT attempt to adjust the torsion bar yourself. There are many owners 
in Ohio and the surrounding area. You should be able to find someone 
with the tools and experience required to help you. You may have to 
wait till a club meet but you will not be happy if you attempt to do 
it yourself and damage the car and maybe hurt yourself in the process. 
 You could try switching the struts from side to side, it is possible 
to have a bad strut however unlikely. Look in the old posts there are 
many references to the struts, torsion bars, doors, and adjustments. 
There is an excellent article on adjusting the torsion bars in an old 
Delorean World.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "W.D.SEARLS, JR." <Buckeye99_at_dml_c...> wrote:
> My drivers side door sags at about halfway. The strut on the door is 
less
> than 3 months old(from DeloreanOne). I live in Ohio and it is about 
40
> degress right now. I have heard that the doors can sag in cold 
weather but I
> didn't know how much they should sag. Anyway if I were to adjust the 
torsion
> bar how would I do it?
> 
> Joel
> 
> 03121




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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:27:27 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: ATTN: owners who have replaced their entire stereo

Hey guys,

i would like to get in contact via private email with anyone out there who 
has  replaced their entire stereo system in their D - at least all four 
speakers and head unit.  i specifically need confirmed mounting depths, rear 
speaker size, and what can be done to make it sound GREAT.  i asked about 
this briefly a few months ago on the list, but i cannot seem to find the 
digest articles in the back issues...  when i am done with my installation i 
plan to put up a detailed summary of my experience for others to examine 
should they choose to do this also.

i would also like to know if there's anyone out there who has installed 6x9 
boxes on the parcel shelf or 8"/10" subs back there.  any comments on the 
sound, amount of room it took up, is it worth it?

thanks, as always!
Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 05:55:51 -0000
From: "Claude " <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Re: Towing v. Driving with a bad ex. man. gasket ... :\

>Re: Towing v. Driving with a bad ex. man. gasket ... : >
 
>>Instead of using a tow dolly (only raises 2 wheels off the ground)or
> > spending the hundreds of dollars on flat bedding/towing your new
> > purchase there is another alternative. What I did when I got my D
> > (was not drivable at ALL) was I went to the local Uhaul place and
> > rented a full car caddy.


Here in Connecticut(check the laws of the states you will pass thru) 
it is illegal to tow a unregistered motor vehicle unless all wheels 
are off the ground (no tow trucks or tow dolleys can be used to tow 
unregistered vehicles,(unless it is from a accident and authorized by 
a Police officer)which means all wheels must be off the ground, which 
means the only way it can be towed is on a car trailer or flatbed,or 
enclosed trailer,ALSO BEWARE if anybody has to pass thru the NEW 
JERSEY Turnpike,THEY DO NOT ALLOW TOW DOLLEYS on the Jersey Pike,ask 
me how I know,One more thing beware of the Uhaul trucks,as the upkeep 
isn't the best. 

Claude
000570





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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:28:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: silly question...

hey list,
  i just read the new thread about mr. delorean's former estate being turned in to a country club and it made me wonder: does mr. delorean own one of the cars bearing his namesake? i am sure if he did own one, that he lost it during his bankruptcy. i have wondered this for a long time. well, thanks for putting up with my silly question....Louie-NC

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 05:57:34 -0000
From: jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net
Subject: Re: Emissions test and Transmission damage?

Wait whats the advantages of this. I must know more.

Jeremy




I have to look into collecter plates.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757





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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:35:50 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for a D for a photo-op in Clearwater FL this weekend

Gary,

We are planning a Delorean show in Orlando this Saturday.  If anyone in the
area has a Delorean that runs and read your message, then chances are they
will be at the show.  How does Sunday look?  And what time of day?  What
sort of setting/backdrop do you want to use?  After driving the car that
distance, it will probably need washing again.  There is little time to prep
the car before then.  Could you choose another day?

As an after thought, I saw a spicy photo shoot of a model washing a car.
Could you convince your model to wash my car?  LOL. :)

From experience, I suggest finding a Delorean with gray interior if you are
going to be doing any interior shots including a model.  The black interior
makes for rather contrasty photos and is hard to mix with flesh tones.
(Mine is a black interior.)

Walt    Tampa, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Smith <gsmith_at_dml_imgr.com>
To: dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:53 PM
Subject: [DML] Looking for a D for a photo-op in Clearwater FL this weekend
never posted ...
>
>... anyway, I thought it would be great to see if anyone would be or is in
>Clearwater FL this weekend that would like to have some pictures taken of
>their D and of a up and coming teen model.
>



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 05:06:10 EST
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Stainless Steel Frame

In a message dated 1/16/01 4:56:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com writes:

<< Nick (NJP548) may want to pipe in her too. He is doing that same job 
 (to a standard frame) and can vouch for the degree of difficulty (not 
 too bad) and amount of small-parts changing you'll have to do (lots) >>

Dave is correct on this.  I can honestly say that doing a frame off 
restoration is not very hard to do, but it is still a lot of work.  There 
were a LOT of parts that I had to replace while I was doing this restoration. 
 The good thing after all this is that when I finish with the restoration, 
almost everything on my De Lorean will be like brand new.  In May of 2000, I 
separated the frame and the body, now 8 months later I am finally able to put 
everything back together again.  If you were seriously considering having 
someone perform the frame swap for you, I would consider doing it for you, 
but I don't think the parental units that live with me will let me do another 
restoration again no matter what I get paid.  Times like these make me wish I 
had a bigger garage and a town that doesn't bother us over every little 
thing.  What I can suggest to you if you really want to get the ss frame, is 
what Dave Swingle suggested, try to find a car that is in overall really good 
shape, so that there won't be that many surprises when you are in the middle 
of the job and strip the frame down, sell it to someone who has a rusted up 
frame and get an SS frame for yourself.  That way everything else on the car 
is in good shape and shouldn't need replacing.  Hope that helps and good luck!

Later,
Nick
1852
Http://members.aol.com/njp548



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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:25:44 -0800
From: "Don Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean on NOS

I purchased a D that had been modified with NOS.  It had two bottles the
size of scuba tanks in the front trunk such that there was no room for the
spare tire.  I was told it ran great by the seller and so bought it sight
unseen.  Turns out that it did seem to run OK but there was a missing tooth
on the ring gear (!).  Seems I had forgotten to ask about that specifically.
Also both turbos were frozen (over rev?).  Anyway to my surprise the engine
itself was fine with the pistons still looking like pistons and everything.
I thought this was remarkable concidering what it had gone thru.  In my
limited experience with NOS I am not sure if it is an upgrade or a
downgrade.

Don Ekhoff


----- Original Message -----
From: <jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: [DML] Delorean on NOS


> With all this talk of high HP engine convesions I wonder if anyone
> has attempted a NOS upgrade and what the results were.
>
> Jeremy



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:04:16 -0800
From: Henry Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: DeLorean on TV

List,

For those of you who collect videotapes of DeLoreans in movies and on
television, you might want to check out this coming Sunday's "All Madden
Team" broadcast on Fox.

In the Los Angeles area, it airs at 4:00pm, Sunday, January 21 on
channel 11.  For other areas, check http://www.tvguide.com

It may end up on the cutting room floor, but if not, ...

Hank Breer




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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:36:05 EST
From: fjk143_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Frame

The price tag WAS well above $25,000 in 1981.  My sticker was $27,650.  Keep in mind that a 911, one if the finest cars of all time and far along the development path was considerably less than that.  A Ferrari 308 was not that much more thatn the D's base either.  Most of us bought them new for the uniqueness of the stainless and the gullwings - not because they were the best at anything as there was not and is not a single area that the DMC-12 was superior to other cars in that price range.

Fred
6894 (in Houston for restoration with 9,000 miles)



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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:37:37 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Emissions test and Transmission damage?

Try a different inspection station.. In New Jersey, the Dyno testing is only
required on cars 1984 and newer.  They only need to do the idle test on older
cars.


"jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net" wrote:
<SNIP>
> any other automatic assuming that it is in good condition. In New
> Jersey they have suspended the dyno testing temporaraly, our Govenor
> is becomming the head of the EPA so I guess they didn't want too much
> bad publicity. I had my Delorean in the dyno test last year and I
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 05:41:40 -0800
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>
Subject: Hawaii?

We will be vacationing in Hawaii (Oahu) in a couple weeks.   In the past I have seen notes on the DML from someone (or more than one) in that area.  It would be neat to be able to meet a DeLorean owner there to swap notes.   Anyone on the DML located on Oahu now?

Murray Fisher
Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net


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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:12:31 -0600
From: Farrar Hudkins <smeghead79_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: Re: Tow Dolly v. Car Carrier

All:

When I moved from North Carolina down here to Louisiana, I had to rent a
car carrier rather than a tow dolly, because my car was rear wheel
drive, plus I didn't feel like putting 600+ miles on TWO tires instead
of four.  I must admit that those things are very nice and affordable. 
The thing is finding the friend to go with me.  The guy I know has a
Chevy S-10.  I doubt he could pull the DeLorean, even though it weighs
... Hey, how much DOES it weigh, anyway?  And those car carriers weigh a
lot, too.  It two TWO of us fairly youthful strong guys to move one into
position behind a truck once, before I drove my car (93 Duster) on it.

At any rate, thanks for the advice!  I'm waiting to hear back on the guy
-- supposedly he was doing a bit of vehicle history examination ... To
let me know approx how much I will sink into this car.  I'm still
talking to insurance agencies.  There seem to be approximately 8,924,275
that will insure in the Greater New Orleans area ... I have called four
... And one is my current insurer, State Farm, who has said "We'll get
back to you in two days." (Two DAYS?  All they have to do is take my
existing policy, add another vehicle to it, and give me a quote.  Sounds
like it's time for a switch anyway!)

Wish me luck.

TTFN -
Farrar "Doc" Hudkins  ;)



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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:52:36 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Water In the Fuel Tank?

This problem is not very common on Deloreans. Do you have the fuel 
flap and is the car left outside? On corvettes the fuel cap is in a 
well under a cover with a drain that easily plugs up so on them at 
least it is common to see water in the fuel if the car is parked 
outside. More likely you refueled at a station that has a leaking
tank 
and the water contaminated the fuel which you pumped in. Do you 
regularly go to the same gas station, do you also take other cars 
there? Remove as much water as possible and then add 1/2 quart of dry 
gas to a full tank of gasoline, use it all up (as much as you can)
and 
then refill the gas tank. Do not regularly mix in dry gas, only when 
you suspect water in the fuel. Change the fuel filter afterwards and 
you should be alright. To remove the water it might be easier to 
remove the fuel pump and suck out everything and it also gives you
the 
chance to inspect the interior of the tank.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "JamesRG" <jamesrg_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> My car had been playing up a bit after sitting for about a month 
without
> use, anyway it eventually just spluttered and had no power. I was 
looking
> into cleaning the fuel tank as it sounded like fuel starvation, 
whenever I
> pressed the accelerator the car stalled. I found to my horror that 
the fuel
> had water in it, 



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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:59:31 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: owners who have replaced their entire stereo

I have replaced my stereo.  After 6 years of talking about it, I finally did it.

Here is the readers digest version of what I did:

I installed a Old Alpine (from 1984!) CD player I had in the garage (this will
be changed sometime in the future) by using the custom radio bracket from the
Mid-West DeLorean club.

The front speakers are 4", and mount flush with the dashboard.  I found that the
4" speakers made by Infinity were true Co-Axial speakers, but had a spacer ring
to make it mount flush.  The only problem I had was the mounting studs in the
dash were too short for the new speaker with the spacer, so I used some threaded
end caps from the hardware store and cut a slot in them with a dremel so I could
"screw" them in.  It worked great!

For the back, I decided to just leave the 4X10 speakers where they were because
it was not worth the effort to get to them and change them.  Besides, I wanted
to install some decent size woofers so I might as well put the full range
speakers in the same box.

I designed a custom box that fit in the parcel shelf.  The box has 2 Kicker 8"
woofers, each in it's own isolated ported enclosure.  The outer edges of the box
have a small sealed enclosure for the full range speakers. (4" mid range 1"
tweeter separates).

There are 3 amplifiers mounted on top of the box to power the system.

I am very happy with the results.  I had this setup in Cleveland, and played it
for a few people.  You may find some people on the list who heard it.

Good luck!


Soma576_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> i would like to get in contact via private email with anyone out there who
> has  replaced their entire stereo system in their D - at least all four
> speakers and head unit.  i specifically need confirmed mounting depths, rear
> speaker size, and what can be done to make it sound GREAT.  i asked about
> this briefly a few months ago on the list, but i cannot seem to find the
> digest articles in the back issues...  when i am done with my installation i
> plan to put up a detailed summary of my experience for others to examine
> should they choose to do this also.
> 
> i would also like to know if there's anyone out there who has installed 6x9
> boxes on the parcel shelf or 8"/10" subs back there.  any comments on the
> sound, amount of room it took up, is it worth it?
> 
> thanks, as always!
> Andy



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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:19:45 -0000
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: SS Frame + Poll...

Firstly, at Tylers suggestion I have created a new Poll about the 
Stainless Steel frame, so anyone who is interested in the subject, 
please vote!
About your suggestion Dave, how much could a good condition frame be 
sold for? Just a thought - would any of the DeLorean Service centres 
be interested in keeping the old frame for spare parts (assuming it 
is in good condition) against the cost of labor for swopping the 
frames, and/or doing any other work on the car that might be needed?
Thanks again,
John.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> Honestly, if I had my heart set on investing in the SS frame, I'd 
> probably start with the best car I could and sell off the (good) 
old 
> frame to someone else. 




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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:00:26 -0500
From: "JDL" <jdl_at_dml_interax.com>
Subject: Re: silly question...

No he does not.  His preferred mode of transportation is an Acura NSX, to
the best of my knowledge...

David

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louie Golden" <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
To: "dmcnews" <dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:28 AM
Subject: [DML] silly question...


> hey list,
>   i just read the new thread about mr. delorean's former estate being
turned in to a country club and it made me wonder: does mr. delorean own one
of the cars bearing his namesake? 



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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:00:54 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Collecter plates was Emissions test and Transmission damage

As I understand the new law if your car meets the correct standards 
for collecter plates then you do not have to go through the inspection 
process sort of like antique plates. Mark Levy can give us more 
details or I guess you can go to a local DMV office or the website. I 
have to wait till my plates are up for renewal in September.Motor 
vehicle laws vary state to state so I can only speak about New Jersey, 
you must check the laws in each state and the insurance required.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



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