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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 375
Date: Saturday, January 20, 2001 6:24 AM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

2. Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ?
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

3. Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update
From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM_at_dml_aol.com>

4. Re: "rare" automatic D (wasFoolishness with numbers...)
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

5. Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

6. Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ?
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

7. Delorean Clock
From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM_at_dml_aol.com>

8. Re: ss frame and metal detectors (traffic lights)
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

9. Short DeLorean reference
From: "Jake" <jkampho_at_dml_siue.edu>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:06:07 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update

<SNIP>
>Does a new switch/cap come with a rebuilt master
> cylinder?  Does anyone have any ideas or experiences concerning
> cross-drilled rotors that they would like to share?
> 
> Walt    Tampa, FL

Walt,
Both the NOS and the replacement master brake cylinders DO NOT come 
with the switch. Be warned that if you buy an aftermarket master 
cylinder (not from a D vendor) that it will not come with the fluid 
tank and you'll have the transplant the old one to the new one. Nine 
out of ten times it will leak where the tank fits into the 
cylinder...unless your lucky and you seat it right.

Steve




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:08:50 -0000
From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ?

There are no aftermarket angle drives. Rob at PJ Grady has a 
replacment angle drive that is rebuilt with stainless steel "guts". 
It's part of his Hardcore series of products that he sells. Give him 
a call and ask him about the hardcore angledrive he has.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Bailey7917_at_dml_h... wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a suitable aftermarket speedometer 
angle 
> drive replacement ?




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:57:19 -0000
From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update

I had DMC in Irvine turn and cross drill my rotors when I had in the 
ar in for a shimmy in the brakes.  The cost to resurface the rotors 
and cross drill them was more than the cost of a new set of rotors!  

The simmy is for the most part gone but the car is noisy when you 
apply the brakes.  I think that if I had it to do over again I would 
have simply bought a new set of rotors and not bothered with the 
cross drilling procedure.

I cannot atest to the stopping difference, if any. The cost and noise 
in concert with the fact that this is about the only change that I 
have made to a perfectly stock car with 10,000 miles makes me think 
that I made a bad decision.

Scot
6452 




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:54:54 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Re: "rare" automatic D (wasFoolishness with numbers...)

Brian wrote:

> On this website for an automatic D for sale, it mentions that "only 800
> Automatics were ever produced":
> http://www.kcimports.com/81Delorean/index.htm

They also say:
> This may be one of the nicest original pampered Beauties Left! We only
> inventory the finest examples out there! This one has had all the updates[snip]

For a "pampered beauty" I for one think it at least should have a "straight" 
luggage net; the elastic "edge" seems to be worn.
As for all the updates; I might be wrong, but wasn't installing protective caps
on the armrests an update? This one doesn't seem to have those.

What IS interesting (to me at least) is the installation of a spring next to 
the gas cap. This probably helps popping the trunk; I think I'll do something 
similar since mine won't pop either. 
I've allready checked alignment of the lock and the striker-pin, 
they seem all right to me. The hook fully disengages the striker, 
so that can't be it either and the struts (mine need to be replaced)
don't really help anyway with that small amount of leverage...

Anyone got any other ideas???
Thanks in advance,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

check out the Delorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
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PS the car looks like it has no flap, but does have the grooves 
AND it has the locking gascap, shouldn't that say something about its' VIN#?



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:50:52 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update

Walter I think you just have just given the list members several good 
reasons to deal with the major Delorean venders when buying parts. 
With all of the problems you had it is the best advertisment for 
sticking with a favorite Delorean vender. The small gain you might 
achieve is offset by the agravation you are putting yourself through. 
If cross-drilled rotors improved the brakes that much all of the 
Delorean venders would carry them. On the subject of your brake fluid 
I would change it right away. You are correct that you must be 
prepared to rebuild the entire system as all of the seals could fail 
but the alternative is that the system further deteriorates and since 
the fluid is contaminated it could boil under heavy braking causing a 
loss of brakes. Flush the system completly with Castrol GTLMA dot 4. 
Using anything else is not compatible with the British seal 
compounds.(It will probably leak anyhow). You don't know what kind of 
fluid is in there or how old it is. The owner's manual calls for 
flushing the brake fluid every 2 years! With the Castrol you could 
probably double that to 4. On improving the brake system besides 
converting to dot 4 the other thing some people have done is changing 
the brake hoses to braided stainless steel. I think the Pacific club 
has a member who sells a set.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> I have been unable to buy Auto Specialty cross-drilled brake rotors 
for the
> rear of my Delorean.  Here is what I have so far:  Auto Specialty 
told me
> that they have the parts in stock.  



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:54:05 -0000
From: "jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net " <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ?

Get in touch with a Delorean vender. I know that P.J.Grady sells an 
improved ange drive and a kit to improve the mode switch. In both 
cases I don't think there is a crossover to anything else.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_egroups.com, Bailey7917_at_dml_h... wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a suitable aftermarket speedometer 
angle 
> drive replacement ?




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 04:06:40 -0000
From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Delorean Clock

Just a simple question.  All of the parts lists that I see indicate 
that the clocks were only installed up to VIN number 6158.  I have 
VIN 6452 and mine has a clock.  Since my car only has 10,000 miles 
and everything else appears to be stock, is the parts list wrong or 
do I have an "unusual" car?

Thanks,

Scot
6452




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 03:08:09 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Re: ss frame and metal detectors (traffic lights)

****MODERATOR NOTE**** This about wraps up this thread. We're getting into hair-splitting. . . . . .

Running the risc of going on on this for too long I would like to ad
something to this discussion

Gary wrote:

> For a loop of wire to "detect" metal, there must be motion.
> It is the car passing over/into the loop which generates a current in 
> the wire.  This current is then sensed.  Hence, it doesn't matter 
> where the bike stops.  If it has enough metal to generate the 
> required current to set off the sensors, it will do so when the bike 
> enters the loop.

This is not entirely true:
there is a small current running through the loop continously,
generating a small magnetic field. The current through this loop is
monitored the whole time and doesn't change when the surroundings of the
loop don't change.

When a car or motor bike or even someone with a wheel barrow comes along
the metal (any metal, magnetic or not) will interfere withe the magnetic 
field created by the loop. because of this there will be a change in the 
current running through the loop and if it's within certain parameters
(higher or lower) it will notify the lights of the presence of something.

The statement on putting your bike near the loop-wire is true:
the current-change will be more noticable so you will be detected,
by just riding into the loop the changes will be filtered out as
spikes and the lights will not register you.

You can not compare a hand matal detector and those used for traffic lights;
only their principle of operation is the same, but the applications
are so totally different that the software for both "looks" for other
parameters that change. If you've ever used one; a metal detector also
detects metal when in a stationary position...

In conclusion; YES the SS-framed car WILL trigger the traffic lights.

Thanks for putting up with me  ;-)

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

check out the Delorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:20:22 -0600
From: "Jake" <jkampho_at_dml_siue.edu>
Subject: Short DeLorean reference

One more for those who collect DeLorean media references:

Tonight on the Discovery Channel there was a program called "Justice Files" (I think).  In it they discussed entrapment and very quickly mentioned the DeLorean case.

--For those who are interested, I'm sure you could check on the Discovery Channel website.


Jake


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