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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 435
Date: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:00 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Temporary Import of DMC to USA
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

2. Re: Re: High idle probs...
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

3. Re: High idle probs...
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

4. Re: Noisy fuel pump
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

5. New member
From: komet_at_dml_chello.se

6. Good DeLorean Story
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>

7. Eurofest Travel Plans?
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

8. Re: DeLoreans on Speedvision
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs_at_dml_flash.net>

9. Craig Radio Manual on Zilla Site
From: ZillaDelorean_at_dml_aol.com

10. I wanna Know selling in South Korea.
From: "Chapssal" <jaekyuns_at_dml_kornet.net>

11. re: rubberneckers...
From: David Cox <DMCox_at_dml_delorean.com>

12. Re: Good DeLorean Story
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

13. RE: Engine Swap Thread
From: "Selden, Wayne" <wayne.selden_at_dml_tenethealth.com>

14. Engine swap completed!
From: at88mph_at_dml_mobis.com

15. Re: Craig Radio Manual on Zilla Site
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

16. Re: Craig Radio Manual on Zilla Site
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_imap.maya.com>

17. Re: Engine swap completed!
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

18. Rear speaker sizes
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

19. Spedo and Wheel Nuts
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com

20. NEW GULLWING!
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

21. Good DeLorean Story
From: "Joseph Murray" <murrayempire_at_dml_ntlworld.com>

22. Re: NEW GULLWING!
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com

23. Re: Good DeLorean Story
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>

24. Re: NEW GULLWING!
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com

25. Re: Rear speaker sizes
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:35:37 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Temporary Import of DMC to USA

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "ian" <ian_at_dml_n...> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Had to laugh ... "exemption for members of foreign armed forces" 
should make
> it easy for the Lybians should they ever invade the USA!!!
<SNIP>

Well if that ever happens, we can take comfort in knowing that we all 
drive cars that are proven to out run them! :

-Robert
vin 6585




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:44:53 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: High idle probs...

David,

Adjusting the valves should be considered as a "last resort fix". If the
problem is other than misadjusted valves, which it more than likely is,
adjusting the valves will significantly complicate the troubleshooting
process. Ninety nine percent of poor engine performance in the De Lorean PRV
is related to fuel and or ignition problems.

Your other suggestions are very accurate.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:33 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: High idle probs...


> For the backfiring try adjusting the intake and exhaust valves, since
> I don't know how many miles are on the motor it could just be a tight
> intake valve adjustment but it could also be, bad ignition wires,
> cracked dist cap, overly lean fuel adjustment. 



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:45:31 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: High idle probs...

Backfiring at the air intake usually indicates either a too lean or too rich
air/fuel mixture. Ensure that your CO mix is properly adjusted.

DMC Joe

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: <njp548_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:49 AM
Subject: [DML] High idle probs...


> Hey List,
>
>       Now that I got the timing right (using timing light, the notch on
the
> crankshaft lines up with the 13 degrees notch on the plate for cylinder
#1)



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:46:15 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Noisy fuel pump

Walt,

Most of the fuel pump noise you hear inside the car is transmitted from the
pump upper fuel lines to the fiberglass body. Try wrapping the hoses with
pipe insulation where the hoses rest against the body and firewall.

DMC Joe

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: [DML] Noisy fuel pump


> Rob Grady was right....
> Replacing my old noisy fuel pump with a new one doesn't make the new one
any
> less noisy.  



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:52:38 -0000
From: komet_at_dml_chello.se
Subject: New member

Hello all!

I am a new member to this group. My name is Magnus Lindberg, and I 
live in Stockholm, Sweden, where I also work a programmer at a small 
company.

Let it be said right away: I do not own a DeLorian - YET. I dream of 
someday being able to get one. The big problem, of course, is the 
price. Another problem is availability, there's not many DeLoreans 
around here.

If anyone knows how to get hold of a DeLorean in Sweden (preferably 
in Stockholm), please contact me. As I said, I don't have the money 
to actually BUY one yet, but I still would appreciate any knowledge 
on how to get hold of one (who knows, I might hit the big one on the 
lottery).

Thanks!

Best regards,
/Magnus Lindberg




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:58:55 -0800
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>
Subject: Good DeLorean Story

I have owned my car for four years now and I think like everyone else, I could write a book on fun things that have happened.    

Last year we were coming out of Wendys and I had started the car with the remote starter to pre warm it up on a cold winter day.  When we got out to it a young Chinese man was looking it over.  Parked near us was a huge bus.  The young man asked if he could take a picture of the car and was very excited.....he went inside the bus and came out with his camera......then others followed him with THEIR cameras.  They were a traveling basketball team.   We were surrounded by about thirty people.   I asked one if he would like to have his picture taken sitting in the car and his face really lit up.   Then I offered to let the others do the same and my wife got out so two at a time could sit in it.  They all spoke English and we had a blast telling about the car......The driver asked for our name and address.   A couple months later we got a letter with a lot of pictures, from Beijing, China that was signed by a lot of these kids with comments and thanking us for being so nice to the!
m.   Made our day!   We enjoy this type of thing and have never found any problem in showing it off like this.    

On the other hand we go to lots of car shows where there are signs "don't touch this car unless you are nude".  Ho Ho.  Everyone to their own poison I always say.  One man next to me showing his 308 Ferrari, asked if I cared if he cleaned the fingerprints from my car as the people touched it!  I usually don't even bother until the show is over.   And I have gotten several first place trophys...fingerprints and all!  I will admit that I am sure I wouldn't even PLACE in a DeLorean only show though. 

Murray Fisher
Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State 

    


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:42:59 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Eurofest Travel Plans?

I see there are two airports in Belfast.  Which is the preferred one to use??

There are a number of flights from New Jersey/New York for under $400, but those
deals all seem to end by mid April.  :(  Has anyone gotten any good deals to
fly?


Also, is the currency standard there a Euro?  Looks like the conversion from USD
to EUR is almost 1:1,  (1 EUR = .92321 USD Today).  Makes things easier to
calculate if in fact the hotel prices and such are EURO..  Anyone know for sure?



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:17:36 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <oehcs_at_dml_flash.net>
Subject: Re: DeLoreans on Speedvision

I hope someone tapes the Speed vision on the D and makes it available.

Bob




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:09:12 EST
From: ZillaDelorean_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Craig Radio Manual on Zilla Site

Good news / Bad news.

The upcoming Zilla site    deloreanparts.com
has the entire service manual for the DMC Craig 81 Radio.

The bad news ?
Sites not up just yet but the home page is.
If you would like the manual,  post me there. 
The email function of the site is working.

Having been Factory Service Mgr for Craig Car Stereo in the late 70's,   I 
can tell you that the ribbon cable that feeds the display has a hairline 
sheer. 
I am inclined to agree with David T. (vin 10757)
The everage tech will have great difficulty attempting to repair this flex 
cable.  It can be repaired but requires EXTRAORDINARY skill to properly jump 
the traces on the flex PC. There is a detailed post on this in the DML 
archives tech area.
However,   1 key point was NOT addressed. If you are successful at repairing 
the ribbon cable it will break again. 

The problem:
YOU MUST reroute the flex cable OVER the top hinge bar that the display hangs 
on instead of under it. By routing it OVER the bar, when the cassette door 
opens inward it won't kink the cable. It will flex in a graceful arc. 
The down side:
The cable itself becomes a quater inch shorter and might not reach the 
plug. This depends on the revision of the main radio board and the plug's 
exact placement.
At this point the hard work is done and extending the flex cable's leads to 
meet the plug is fairly easy.

Frank Russo
Zilla
deloreanparts.com



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 01:27:33 +0900
From: "Chapssal" <jaekyuns_at_dml_kornet.net>
Subject: I wanna Know selling in South Korea.

Hi, everyone. I'm Jaeky.
I'm a student in univ. Of course, I live in South Korea.
I wanna buy a Delorean(new one or not ..).
But I don't find any one in South Korea, don't see any seller.
I don't know why ~.

I like Doors of Delorean above all things.
Next, stainless car's body, etc.
I want to know how I purchase it in South Korea.

Good night, See you~. :-)

----------------------------
E-mail: jaekyuns_at_dml_kornet.net
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:54:37 -0800 (PST)
From: David Cox <DMCox_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: re: rubberneckers...

Last night, as I pulled into a gas station, a woman on he other side of the pump island was pumping gas into her car.  I heard her turn to the driver and say "Hey, take a look at this guy's Ferrari"  When she finished pumping her gas, she came ove and asked me if it was a Ferrari.  I explained it to her, but she kind of shrugged, indicated she'd never heard of a Delorean (even mentioning the BTTF movies didn't spark any recognition for her), and wanted to know if they were still being made.  An interesting encounter - at least she never asked anything about cocaine! ;)

Dave
vin 16367 - new engine and much better, thank you!


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:09:10 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Good DeLorean Story

Murray, Did the earthquake yesterday impact you?  Best wishes to any of the
list members who may have suffered a loss because of the quake.

Scott Mueller
DOA/DMCNEWS
002981

----- Original Message -----
From: Murray Fisher <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>
To: DeLorean <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:58 PM
Subject: [DML] Good DeLorean Story


> I have owned my car for four years now and I think like everyone else, I
could write a book on fun things that have happened.





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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:29:52 -0600
From: "Selden, Wayne" <wayne.selden_at_dml_tenethealth.com>
Subject: RE: Engine Swap Thread

As a Delorean purist, I have owned my Delorean since 1989 and enjoy my car
the way it was originally built. I often wonder why someone would tear it
down for more speed and cosmetic "enhancements". Well stated, Dave. You
helped to put it in perspective.

Wayne R. Selden

-----Original Message-----
From: David Swingle [mailto:dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:12 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Engine Swap Thread
I guess the message here is not to try and convert anyones thinking, 
and to appreciate each other for what we value. 



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:44:32 -0600
From: at88mph_at_dml_mobis.com
Subject: Engine swap completed!

To update everyone on my engine swap, just over a year ago, I started on
swaping out my DeLorean motor with a Chevy 4.3 Vortec V6 engine.  Last night
I completed the task.  It has been a very challenging and interesting swap
to say the least!!! I cannot tell you how sweet it sounded when the engine
finally turned over for the first time.  Considering I had to adapt the
Chevy computer to the DeLorean, it really was quite simple.  I would like to
give alot of thanks to the people who helped me out the most in reaching my
goal:  Mike Bell for all his advice, parts and past experiences that helped
me avoid some bad choices on mine.  If it wasn't for his insight, the thing
would still be in pieces :)  DMCJoe for ALL his continued help and EXTREME
knowledge of the DeLorean which was invaluable and Darryl Tinnerset on his
input and advice!  I would also like to thank all of the other DeLorean
owners who gave their support as well!

I still have to do something with the exhaust (having custom headers made)
but that is the last piece of the puzzle!  I have a friend that does custom
exhaust work and he is in need of some PC technical help so we will be
working out a deal :o)

Swaping out the engine wasn't actually as bad as I thought it would be
(however, I did have ALOT of help from the people noted above, and one heck
of a phone bill ;o) )  I am in no way a automotive engineer, I am just a
regular average person who wanted a little more performance out of the car
(not to mention now if I have a prob, I can just go to any parts store on a
Sat or Sun and they'll have the part I need! :) )  Once I have the headers
installed, I will take it to the dyno to see exactly what I've gotten out of
it.  I will post pics and details of the swap later this weekend.


Thanks!


Duke






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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:07:12 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Craig Radio Manual on Zilla Site

Well, THAT certainly cuts into my DMCNews website fundraiser. . .that 
manual has been a hot item on www.dmcnews.com 

I do have ASI manuals too, though. And a couple of posters. And LOTS 
of Christmas cards. 

No big deal though, we're funded just fine for now. 

Dave <====commercial post by list-owner


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., ZillaDelorean_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Good news / Bad news.
> 
> The upcoming Zilla site    deloreanparts.com
> has the entire service manual for the DMC Craig 81 Radio.
> 




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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:05:03 -0500
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_imap.maya.com>
Subject: Re: Craig Radio Manual on Zilla Site

Frank,
Thanks for the valuable tip.
Question: What about those of us who are lucky enough to have radios 
whose displays are still ok? Do you recommend that we reroute the 
flex cable as a preventative measure, or is this likely to do more 
harm than good given the do-doubt fragile 20 year old cable?

Your advice would be appreciated.

--pete lucas
    VIN #06703

At 11:09 AM -0500 3/1/01, ZillaDelorean_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
>Good news / Bad news.
<<<snip>>>
>The problem:
>YOU MUST reroute the flex cable OVER the top hinge bar that the display hangs
>on instead of under it. By routing it OVER the bar, when the cassette door
>opens inward it won't kink the cable. It will flex in a graceful arc.
>The down side:
>



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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:22:41 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Engine swap completed!

Duke,

Congrats on the engine swap.  You don't realize how my heart sank when you
gave up and offered your car for sale not long ago.  I'm glad that you were
able to work through it.

I am curious to know if that is a steel or aluminum block engine you put in
there.  I think I asked this question before, but I don't remember.  From
the photos, it looks like a steel block.  I've heard complaints that the
weight of a steel block engine can affect the handling.  If I ever attempt a
swap, I'm going to try something light weight.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:22:28 EST
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Rear speaker sizes

Hello,
    I am in the process of replacing all the speakers in my car.  The other 
ones are rotted out.  I would prefer not to use 4x10 speakers in the rear 
again.  what is the biggest speaker I can fit in there.  Will a 5x7 fit with 
the right sized magnet?  or will I have to do something more like a 4x6?  I 
just dont want to change the appearance of the interior so it needs to fit 
back there!
    Also, if I decide to put a sub or 2 would it be a bad idea to put them in 
the trunk?

Thanks
David



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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 20:21:38 -0000
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Spedo and Wheel Nuts

Hi all,

  I was experiencing some spedo bounce, and I thought it might be the 
angle drive, but it turns out that it was the plastic cup. Thanks to 
the list, I was able to fix it without worrying about whether or not 
it was supposed to be loose like that. Anyways, my post is really 
about the wheel nuts. I had THE worst time getting them untightened! 
I had a two foot breaker bar and some Break Away bolt loosener, and 
even with that I ended up twisting, yes TWISTING the stock lug nut 
wrench. It has been said before I know, but please use a torque 
wrench when tightening! It was amazing that I did not damage the 
studs. I did however have to go out and buy four new lug nuts... boy 
where they mangled!


Tyler
#3472





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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 20:48:26 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: NEW GULLWING!

Info here:

http://www.genevamotorshow.com/o_20/e/o_24.html

and more info (and my original source) the UK mag Auto Express. This is
a redirecting link that saves you from having to register to be be able
to read it...

http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/AutoExpress.htm

I love the comment "...gull-wing doors, supported by gas-filled struts,
which swing gently upwards"

Woohoo. What a novelty.

Martin
www.delorean.co.uk




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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:24:36 -0000
From: "Joseph Murray" <murrayempire_at_dml_ntlworld.com>
Subject: Good DeLorean Story

I have been helping Robert Lamrock to get Euro Fest 2001  some publicity here in N.Ireland
We decided to get an article in the local newspaper.
I have already posted the article on this site.
This newspaper does not post photographs on its web site that's why no photograph was included in my message
In the newspaper there IS a great photograph of yours truly in the DeLorean car
outside the plant at Dunmurry Belfast N.Ireland
Robert and I met the Photographer up at the plant last Saturday and had about 10 different pictures taken at 2 different sites at the plant.The De.on its own The De with Robert The De.with Me The De. with both of us and so on.
Then much to our surprise the photographer handed his camera to Robert and ask if he could have his picture taken with the De for his own use and of course Robert obliged.
Soon Robert and I will be on local radio and T.V.telling the local people about Euro Fest 2001.if they don't already know
This Euro Fest 2001 is going to be BIG.
Come and see were your DeLorean was born.
Nobody can Party like an Irishman.Nobody gets to bed until
2am.See you all here in Belfast don't dare miss it.
Joe Murray 
DeLorean worker 10 / 65
1979 to 1982
 


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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:35:58 -0000
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: NEW GULLWING!

Interesting, except for one obvious fault.  The doors pivot at the
edge of the roof, not the center, so they would require quite a bit
of clearance space to open, and one would quite easily be able to
hit their head on the door when both getting in and getting out.

Not quite as practical, or as good-looking as the gullwings on our
DeLoreans.

John Yeoman





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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:21:06 -0800
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>
Subject: Re: Good DeLorean Story

Hi Scott,
    No, the earthquake yesterday did not impact us directly....epicenter was
250 miles from us near Olympia....I am wondering how Dan Tinnerstet fared
tho as he lives RIGHT THERE.  Also many D owners in that area, including
Arnie Brandon, Pres of the PNW D club.    Our daughter who works at the U in
Seattle Email'd  us and said she was in the Presidents office where she
works and dived under his desk and lucky he was not there first.  Ho Ho.
Very fortunate that there were no fatalities so far when the one in India
had 17,000 killed with one not much bigger!
    Murray
    Vin: 05962
    Lic: DMC-XII
    Washington State




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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:38:19 -0000
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
Subject: Re: NEW GULLWING!

I wonder how many inches it takes to open THOSE doors.  Doesn't look 
like they are hinged in the same place as the Delorean.  

I'll stick with my Delorean.

Erik
4512

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Info here:
> 
> http://www.genevamotorshow.com/o_20/e/o_24.html
> 
> and more info (and my original source) the UK mag Auto Express. 
This is
> a redirecting link that saves you from having to register to be be 
able
> to read it...
> 
> http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/AutoExpress.htm
> 
> I love the comment "...gull-wing doors, supported by gas-filled 
struts,
> which swing gently upwards"
> 
> Woohoo. What a novelty.
> 
> Martin
> www.delorean.co.uk




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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:41:56 -0000
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
Subject: Re: Rear speaker sizes

Dave,
I would recommend mounting the new speakers on the back wall.  I am 
planning to put new 6X9's in my Delorean that way.  Here is a link to 
what it will look like.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/files/Aftermarket%20Stereo%20in%
20%2305141/speakers_changer.jpg

anytime you would like to check out the parts Delorean, just let me 
know.

Erik
4512

seeya later
--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Delorean17_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hello,
>     I am in the process of replacing all the speakers in my car.  
The other 
> ones are rotted out.  I would prefer not to use 4x10 speakers in 
the rear 
> again.  what is the biggest speaker I can fit in there.  Will a 5x7 
fit with 
> the right sized magnet?  or will I have to do something more like a 
4x6?  I 
> just dont want to change the appearance of the interior so it needs 
to fit 
> back there!
>     Also, if I decide to put a sub or 2 would it be a bad idea to 
put them in 
> the trunk?
> 
> Thanks
> David




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