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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 436
Date: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:17 AM

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There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Good DeLorean Story
From: "Michael G. Fischer" <michael.fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com>

2. Re: Eurofest Travel Plans?
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com

3. Re: NEW GULLWING!
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Re: Eurofest Currency
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Re: NEW GULLWING!
From: jazscu_at_dml_aol.com

6. Re: Eurofest Travel Plans?
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

7. Re: rubberneckers...
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Belfast City Where to stay...
From: "Joseph Murray" <murrayempire_at_dml_ntlworld.com>

9. Belfast attendance poll
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

10. Re: Rear speaker sizes
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

11. RE: New DeLorean Web Site
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:06:31 -0800
From: "Michael G. Fischer" <michael.fischer_at_dml_dittybase.com>
Subject: RE: Good DeLorean Story


  Sounds like it's gonna be a great party ... can anyone reccommend some
good Bed and Breakfasts in the area?

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Murray [mailto:murrayempire_at_dml_ntlworld.com]

I have been helping Robert Lamrock to get Euro Fest 2001  some publicity
here in N.Ireland
We decided to get an article in the local newspaper.

<snip>

Nobody can Party like an Irishman.Nobody gets to bed until
2am.See you all here in Belfast don't dare miss it.
Joe Murray 
DeLorean worker 10 / 65
1979 to 1982
 



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:09:21 EST
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Eurofest Travel Plans?

In a message dated 01-Mar-01 3:13:35 PM GMT Standard Time, 
malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:

> I see there are two airports in Belfast.  Which is the preferred one to 
use??

Marc,
There is Belfast International Airport and there's Belfast City Airport.
The International is 14 miles from the city centre, and the City airport is 
only 2 miles from the city centre.  It doesn't matter which airport you use.  
There are bus and taxi services from both.  Just use whichever is the 
cheapest to fly into.
Best wishes,
Robert Lamrock
Eurofest 2001
Belfast



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:27:41
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: NEW GULLWING!

I agree with you John, and another thing - no sign of a torsionbar, and the 
doors have two gas struts, which when viewed from the side of the car looks 
really stupid. It's not done professionally.

Thank God the DeLorean only has one gas strut which by the way, fits neatly 
into the total design on the rear of the door :)

Final remark - Although the doors look somewhat strange compared to the 
DeLorean's, we can only hope that car manufacturers start to build cars with 
gullwing doors! I guess you could call it a game then - "Follow the Leader" 
;)

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759


>From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Re: NEW GULLWING!
>Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:35:58 -0000
>
>Interesting, except for one obvious fault.  The 



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:38:27 EST
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Eurofest Currency

In a message dated 01-Mar-01 3:13:35 PM GMT Standard Time, 
malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:

> Also, is the currency standard there a Euro?  Looks like the conversion 
from 
> USD
>  to EUR is almost 1:1,  (1 EUR = .92321 USD Today).  Makes things easier to
>  calculate if in fact the hotel prices and such are EURO..  Anyone know for 
> sure?
  
Marc,
The Euro has not yet been introduced into Ireland  in terms of coins or 
notes.  You can have transactions in Euros, but as yet not cash ones.
Hotels will quote you rates in Euros if you wish, but they'll probably expect 
payment in dollars or pounds.
Robert Lamrock
Eurofest 2001 
Belfast



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:07:45 EST
From: jazscu_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: NEW GULLWING!

I have a feeling that the reason for the pivot at the end like that is for 
leaking, didn't Mercedes doors leak then DeLorean made a special seal to stop 
it? If you look at those doors they look like doors on a regular car except 
open up, and I have a feeling that it would require at least double the 
amount of room a DeLorean needs to open its door.


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:14:13 -0500
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Eurofest Travel Plans?

We are flying into Shannon airport and then taking a shuttle flight to
Belfast International Airport which is about 14 miles west of the city.
Barnes & Nobel has several good books and maps of Ireland. My wife and I are
staying after the show and driving down to Dublin and Waterford the
following week. See you there.

Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc A Levy" <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
To: "DMC News" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:42 AM
Subject: [DML] Eurofest Travel Plans?


> I see there are two airports in Belfast.  Which is the preferred one to
use??
>
> There are a number of flights from New Jersey/New York for under $400, but
those
> deals all seem to end by mid April.  :(  Has anyone gotten any good deals
to
> fly?




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:22:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: rubberneckers...

I agree with you Mike... my top questions I get asked
are, "where's the flux capacitor", "can I sit in it",
and "wow can I sit in it?".

I always try to accomodate them, for one reason, when
I take her out, it's always for a joy ride, so I'm not
in a hurry, and the biggest thing, is that God gave me
the good fortune to have one, and be able to afford
one, and it wouldn't be right to be snide or mean to
people who have the desire to explore it.  

Mike



--- Mike Cutting <mcutting_at_dml_nt.net> wrote:
> greetings..
> 
> more often than not, i find myself giving "tours" of
> my car everytime i take
> her out



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:26:22 -0000
From: "Joseph Murray" <murrayempire_at_dml_ntlworld.com>
Subject: Belfast City Where to stay...

I do hope you will find this site helpful
This is only a small selection of B&Bs there are lots more
Joe Murray
DeLorean worker

 http://www.tourism.belfastcity.gov.uk/wheretostay/index.html


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:52:01 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Belfast attendance poll

Just a reminder about the Poll regarding a DML meeting in Belfast. 20 
votes so far, 8 attending and 8 waiting for Houston!

I'll let the poll run until the end of April, and contact everyone 
then. 

Dave

===============================================================

> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
> dmcnews group:
> 
> Who's attending the DOA Eurofest in 
> Ireland? If so, please indicate your 
> interest in a DML Face-to-face.
> Votes are being tallied but not be 
> displayed. I'll contact everyone at the 
> end, offline. ---Dave 
> 
>   o I'm going, and I'm interested in a DML-FTF 
>   o I'm going, but I'll just see you-all around 
>   o I'm not going but wanted to vote anyway 
>   o See you in Houston 
> 
> 
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/polls 
> 
> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are 
> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups 
> web site listed above.
> 
> Thanks!




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 00:55:53 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Rear speaker sizes

I replaced the rear speakers in my car with Pioneer p/n 130tsa5715 
speakers from Crutchfield. I think they are 5x7. They really made the 
ASI sound much better, the origional speakers were stiff and sounded 
awfull. The fronts are now Pioneer p/n 130ts879 3-1/2 2- way and were 
bolt-in. The rears took a little pushing to fit but the hardest part 
was removing the rear trim to get to them. Use a heat gun and 
puttyknife, go slowly and patiently so as not to rip the vinyl. The 
origional radios can't power a sub-woofer so at that point you are 
also changing the radio unless you add an amplifier. I have seen some 
installations where a panel was fabricated to go below the rear window 
behind the seat and the speakers were installed in it. With the right 
carpeting covering it it looks factory but you give up some valuable 
room on the rear shelf. The compartment behind the driver's seat (the 
"vault") makes a good place for the c/d changer if you can give that 
up.(Keep it removable in case you need to get to the lambda computer).
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Delorean17_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hello,
>     I am in the process of replacing all the speakers in my car.  
The other 
> ones are rotted out.  I would prefer not to use 4x10 speakers in the 
rear 
> again



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:45:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: New DeLorean Web Site

[Moderator note - we're discussing off-line, EOT here, Dave]

Gary:

The site is not commercial, there is one banner, on
one page.  I get banners from Yahoo for the DML, that
doesnt make DML commercial.  The banner on the site
actually doesn't try to sell anything, it simply
offers a service that other Delorean owners might
like.

In regards to the DML list archive, you are correct, I
did put that forum online, and as you notice, it is
empty.  I forwarded an email request to the address on
DMCnews to get permission to put the archives online
so they could be indexed and searched in an easy
manner (nothing like hitting "door" and getting all
the posts concerning a door), from the vast
knowledgebase the DML has.  I'm not sure if you're the
one who got the email, but I have not received a
response, therefore, I haven't put them online.

I would think that DMCNews would welcome the
opportunity to offer a service that would benefit the
Delorean owner community.  If DMCNews denies the
request, then obviously it will not be placed online.

The intent of deloreancentral is to offer another
place (as there are few as it is), to help promote the
Delorean and communication between Delorean
enthusiasts and owners.  Deloreancentral doesnt sell
accessories, parts, or any merchandise for that
matter, so it shouldn't be construed as a site
designed to compete with Delorean sites with a
commercial interest.  I put the site up for one
reason, and one reason only, I love the Delorean, it's
become my hobby since I got one, and I want to help
others with their automobile loves of their lives as
well.

Thanks,
Mike

--- IN2TIME <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com> wrote:
> I don't have any concerns about using the list to
> occasionally post "special
> offers" to our DeLorean community, In fact I've done
> it myself.
> 
> I do find it objectionable to say "its not
> commercial" when the site has
> banners to the company that registered the domain
> name, offering paid
> website development and hosting to DeLorean
> enthusiasts.
> 
> You've also set up a "DeLorean Mailing List
> Archives" Forum that claims "we
> have captured the [DML] messages and placed them
> here" which implies that
> you plan to duplicate the archives on your site.
> 
> I suggest that you re-think your business/personal
> strategy.
> 
> Gary
> #5612



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