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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 438
Date: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:51 AM

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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Belfast City Where to stay...
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

2. Re: Rear speaker sizes
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. PRV Engine conversion...mine all mine.
From: mark_at_dml_knudsonward.com

4. Re: Eurofest Currency
From: "Joseph Murray" <murrayempire_at_dml_ntlworld.com>

5. Those 10" speakers
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

6. Re: Rear speaker sizes
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

7. Re: Re: Belfast City Where to stay...
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

9. Re: Belfast attendance poll
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

10. Re: Belfast attendance poll
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

11. Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future
From: Trevor L Johnson <comet4055_at_dml_juno.com>

12. double-speed turn signal!
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future
From: aabclafon_at_dml_aol.com

14. Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

15. Turn signal speeds
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

16. Fw: Belfast attendance poll
From: "ian" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

17. RE: Re: Vanity plates
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

18. Re: Those 10" speakers
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_msn.com>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:21:13
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Belfast City Where to stay...


I would like to ask if there are any DeLorean owners/enthusiasts who plan to 
attend the DeLorean Eurofest in Belfast in May this year?

If you plan to attend, do you plan to stay at the Europa Hotel, or are you 
looking for a cheaper alternative, yet with a high standard close to 
Europa's?

Also, I would like to thank DeLorean Worker Joe Murray for his list of 
available guest houses.

There are several good guesthouses near Belfast, and particularly one which 
looks very promising. It has a very relaxed "home atmosphere" and is 
situated outside Belfast City Centre.

Also, it is only 15-20 minutes away from the Dunmurry Factory.

I would think that many owners and enthusiasts are looking for an 
alternative accomodation, but I also think it would be bad if we were all 
individually spread around in lots of different guesthouses, so maybe we 
could try and find two or three places where at least a bunch of people 
shared the same guest house?

Please e-mail me privately (delorean_at_dml_online.no) if interested in joining in 
a cheaper alternative accomodation close to the factory.

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:30:35
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rear speaker sizes


Difficulty in obtaining the "right" speakers?

Go to: www.kicker.com

They have the 4x10 sizes, and they are an American Company.

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:40:37 -0000
From: mark_at_dml_knudsonward.com
Subject: PRV Engine conversion...mine all mine.

Hello, list.
     Currently my 2.8 litre PRV V6 is being transformed to a leaner, 
meaner fighting machine.  Yes, it sounds like I'm gloating.  I have 
the confidence that John Lane of Pacific Rim Automotive is providing 
me with the best available parts locally and with his extensive 
knowledge of racing a Volvo rally car he knows what needs to be 
done.  Plus Pacific Rim Auto is only four miles from where I live.
     I can't provide any better technical advice than what many 
people have posted here on the DML.  I don't have a mechanical 
background to assist in this project.  I am the source of cash.  
Therefore, I may not offer a convincing reason as to why this is 
quite possibly a better engine conversion as opposed to an engine 
replacement.
     Yes, I do feel like I went into the conversion lacking enough 
education on my options.  I had not looked into prices of other 
engine replacements.  Rumors of close to $20,000 for the new Cadillac 
Northstar 300hp V8 engine replacement and $6,995 for a brand new PRV 
200hp normally aspirated V6 means first my car would need to be 
trailered to someone from Seattle, Washington.
     Initially, I bought the car knowing the engine needed a cam 
shaft replacement and rocker arm assembly.  At 49,800 miles on the 
odometer I believed there shouldn't have been much time and money 
needed for making the proper repairs.  Well come to find out when 
opening the leaking valve covers and leaking timing chain cover more 
work had been done on the engine then at first realized.  Both 
camshafts looked newer and cleaner than the blackened rocker arms.  A 
camshaft lobe was scored due to inadequate lubrication.  That was the 
source of the ticking.  A friend of mine said he could hear my D 
before he could see it.
    Inside the timing chain cover one timing chain is snug and the 
other is loose.  Oil pump drive chain and oil pump is noticibly newer 
than the rest of the engine.  Circular gouges and scratches on the 
inside of the timing chain cover coincide with failure of the oil 
pump drive chain.
     Following John Lane's recomendation the heads were removed and 
would you take a look at that, the tops of the pistons were black 
with carbon.  By this time I wanted what ever could be done to get 
the engine in a condition better than it was before it was new.  
Meaning stronger and quicker.  The following is what will be done:  
brand new lighter alloy rocker arm assemblies, brand new Volvo larger 
lobe camshafts, ported and polished intake, tossing out PRV block and 
replacing it with a good (used) even firing Eagle Premier 3.0 litre 
V6 and mating that with the PRV crank case cover, PRV water pump, PRV 
Bosch K-Jetronic mechanical fuel injection and loads of other parts.
     Today the engine is in pieces.  Within the next few weeks it 
will be running again.  I have taken pictures of the PRV disassembled 
and have left my camera with John in order to document the assembly.
     Will post costs and picures of this whole affair once I get the 
bill.
     One last thing.  No, three.  I also asked John to recharge the 
empty A/C and check for leaks.  And to figure out why the heck is the 
fuel pump making noise every time the engine runs.  But, of course 
the fuel pump didn't make this noise while test driving the car 
before I bought it.  The car still has the original suspension 
components.  John says the shocks are worn out.  I've thought about 
replacing the front springs with new 1-1/2" lower ones and the shocks 
but with the costs of the work being done to the rest of the car I'm 
putting that off for a while.
     Due to the car being so gosh darn unique I think all this work 
making the car better is worth it.

Mark R. Vanyo
VIN #2261
Pacific Northwest DeLorean Club

PS.  Scott Mueller thanks for the concern regarding the 6.8 magnitude 
quake to rock the Puget Sound and beyond.  The temporary or permanent 
closure of buildings and bridges for quake damage inspection shows 
just how much everyone is affected.  Fortunately no one died due to 
falling debris.  From what I understand one lady died of a heart 
attack because of the quake.  For more pictures and news reports go 
to:
www.king5.com
www.kirotv.com





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:32:38 -0000
From: "Joseph Murray" <murrayempire_at_dml_ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Eurofest Currency

The official currency of Northern Ireland is the Pound.
 ( British Pound )
This is the currency used in Northern Ireland Scotland
England and Wales.
Officially kown as Pound Sterling and the coins are called
Pence e.g.. 25.50 pence
The South of Ireland eg. Dublin Cork Galway or Waterford use the Punts P
and the coins are Pence
To days (Friday) rate:
Currency I have selected : USA-Dollars
Amount in  (as used in N'Ireland and Britain) 50
Current conversion rate                                       1.428
Amount I will receive                                    71.40.USD

Currency I have selected  Ireland Punts
Amount in  (as used in N.Ireland and Britain) 50
Current conversion rate                                        1.1931
Amount I will receive                                      59.66 Punt
This transaction can be carried out at Hotel reception or
at one of many Banks
I do hope this helps.As yet we do not use Euro's as a currency but it will
soon be on its way
Joe Murray
DeLorean worker'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc A Levy" <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Eurofest Currency


> OK, so what IS the official currency?  British Pound?  Irish Punt?
>



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:06:34 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Those 10" speakers

Were stock rear speakers on the early Corvairs, some of the Corvair
vendors can fix you up too.  If you need that lead, I can supply, but
probably plenty around other ways.  I had several new ones by Delco but
contributed them to the needy before I got here.

Les




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:59:28 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Rear speaker sizes

What I am considering doing is mounting the best speakers that I can fit in
the rear panels and then strapping down a bazooka bass cannon (or whatever
they are called) behind the cargo net.  It would be a totally reversible
modification that I can take out for shows or to have more room.

That would give me the best of both worlds maybe.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:01:38 EST
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Belfast City Where to stay...

Stian wrote;
<I would think that many owners and enthusiasts are <looking for an alternative accomodation, but I also <think it would be bad if we were all individually <spread around in lots of different guesthouses,

The Europa Hotel is four star and is worth the $70 per night (sharing) for bed and full Irish breakfast with the 3 night package.  If someone is on a much cheaper budget then a guest house is an option.  Special car parking arrangements have been put in place to ensure the overnight safety of the DeLorean cars attending the event, but guest houses may not have this facility. If bringing your D to Eurofest please check arrangements directly with me.  Thanks. 

Robert Lamrock
Eurofest 2001 Organiser  
 



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:19:08 -1000
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future

I don't think it's frowned upon... Besides, you do what makes YOU happy. If 
others don't like it, that's just too bad! It's your car, so you should do 
what you want with it. I used to get a few negative comments on how I've 
customized my car to the way I like it. Those people have since decided to 
leave me alone because the negative comments sent by them are returned in a 
format as equally, or more colorful than the one's that were sent. ;-)

Live YOUR dream...

---Dan (Will most likely be at Eurofest...)

   Date: Fri,  2 Mar 2001 05:51:45 -0500
   From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Vanity plates and Back to the Future

Is is frowned upon by delorean owners to get a Back to the Future related 
Vanity
plate?  



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:10:09 -0500
From: David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Belfast attendance poll

I don't understand "Face to face", is this a boxing match.

> > Who's attending the DOA Eurofest in
> > Ireland? If so, please indicate your
> > interest in a DML Face-to-face.




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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:42:50 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Belfast attendance poll

It's kind of an internet geek-term for a meeting of people that 
normally never see each other in "real life" - like most of the list 
members here!

Sorry if it was confusing

Dave

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., David Sontos <dsontos_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> I don't understand "Face to face", is this a boxing match.
> 
> > > Who's attending the DOA Eurofest in
> > > Ireland? If so, please indicate your
> > > interest in a DML Face-to-face.




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:47:24 -0800
From: Trevor L Johnson <comet4055_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future

I Have one that says "BKINTIM" which some correctly call back in time, I
also get Bikini Tim and Back in Tim (the worst) I also know 2 other in my
state that have different variations on that phrase, There is Bakntim,
and Bkintym. Another I know of is 882futr or something really close to
that. I haven't heard any thing along the lines of 'how could you do
that.' It seems like most owners have non-BTTF Vanity plates, some are
things relating to the doors like GulWing, hvwings and GalWing, I have
seen some that are DMC12 or even DMC and the Vin. It seems that most
owners approve of the personalized touch, but most either tried to stay
away form the BTTF theme or they couldn't find one that they liked unused

Trevor Johnson
DMC #'s 4055 and 6974
www.geocities.com/dmc6974



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:26:52 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: double-speed turn signal!

Hey guys,

i have a problem i'm sure everyone here has had - my left turn signal is 
twice as fast as it should be!  now i know this usually results from a bad 
wire somewhere shorting out.  however, listen to this:

i tried to tackle the problem last fall and i was checking all of the relays 
and fuses and my electrical compartment.  i don't remember what i did it but 
it seemed to fix the problem.  now that my car is coming out from hibernation 
in the next couple weeks, it's at it again and i want to make sure the 
problem gets fixed.  the deal is, i've checked my service manual and none of 
the relays correspond to the turn signal.  maybe it was just chance and the 
light 'fixed itself'?

any good ideas on where to go next?  i don't think it's my light circuit 
board because the previous owner replaced them with the heavy duty ones.  i'd 
rather not take my rear fascia off if someone can point me in a more obvious 
direction!

spring is coming!!!!!
Andy 

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:42:55 EST
From: aabclafon_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future

I live in Indiana and took a while to decide what to put on my license plate.
I finally decided on    N 2 TIME.    I did not intend to copy off of anyone 
else.
Just so happened it fit on Indiana plates.   I think people relate to the car 
better
when they see something  BTTF related on the license plate.   "Oh thats the 
car
that was in Back to The Future"

Dave L
#2578



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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:02:25 EST
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future

I think it's cool to have anything on the plate, as long as it's not 
demeaning to the company, car, or the man himself. Since Back to the Future 
is not really demeaning, I would say it would be ok. 

Just my perspective,
John Feldman
VIN 4275
Plate: MY81DMC


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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:18:47 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Turn signal speeds

Andy, it just about has to be a difference in current drain between the
two sides.  Most often when one side is faster than the other a bulb is
out but presumably you've swarmed all over that.  Can't make a case for
a bad wire or short because should that be the case you would lose the
operation of the circuit.  Obvious question, are you using the same
wattage bulbs on each side, flasher should react the same to the same
current demand on either side, bet you've got an imbalance, check those
bulbs. No two anything are exactly the same so you could make a case for
a borderline difference and a very sensitive flasher but that's pretty
far out!  I go with the above.

Les




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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:23:42 +0800
From: "ian" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: Fw: Belfast attendance poll

 Hi Guys,

I'm going to Eurofest 2001 in Belfast ... no idea what your 'Face to Face'
is about but I'm interested. I live/work in HongKong but come from
N.Ireland. One of my DMCs lives in a Carcoon back there and will be
resurected for May.

Dave Sontos ... I tried emailing you some comments/advice on your tour
through Ireland after Eurofest but get a message back saying 'invalid ...
user unknown'!?

Looking forward to late-May ... a dark pint of Guinness in the old "Crown
Bar" just across the street from the Europa ... it doesn't get much better
than that!

Cheers,              IAN
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:41:59 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Vanity plates

ok...

I am in the process of getting a car (waiting on the inspection for the loan
to finalize)

I was thinking of:

MRFUSHN: was top of my list, but not sure now...someone may think that is
the nickname that I go by personally or something (if they are non-BTTF
literate)

FLUX U: (decided to take this off the list...some one who is not a BTTF fan
might take it wrong for F*** U. and initiate road rage.

1983DMC: Ughhhh...kinda not BTTF, but nice

Bck2Ftr: (I was told by other "friends" (not DMC people) that was TOO direct
to the film and corny

88 MPH: Still like this one, but same reason as above for not having it.

NoRoads:  Saw this on the vanity page at dmcnews.com...but dont want to
steal another good idea from someone.

Any ideas!?




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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:02:10 -0500
From: "Scott Cagle" <sharkywtrs_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Re: Those 10" speakers



Kenwood and Pioneer both make 4" by 10" speakers.  I have the Pioneers in my DMC, and if I had it to do over again, I would do as DMC Joe says and put speaker boxes on the parcel shelf.  Very flat sound is what you get.  But for reference, the speakers are:

Kenwood KFC-415C
Pioneer TS-A4103

Both are available from Crutchfield (www.crutchfield.com) for 99.95


Scott Cagle



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