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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 439
Date: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:41 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: Vanity plates....creative!~
From: CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: Engine compartment light
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

3. Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com

4. Re: Accounting Paper For College Class
From: jalbin_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Turn signal speeds
From: bob_at_dml_deloreanmotorcar.com

6. RE: Re: Vanity plates....creative!~
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

7. Speaker reconing
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

8. Re: Belfast attendance poll
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

9. december 2000b
From: "Mike Cutting" <mcutting_at_dml_nt.net>

10. Turn signal speeds II
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

11. DeLorean on "Ultimate 10"
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

12. Engine compartment light II
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

13. Re: Speedvision/Hemmings DeLorean Spot
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

14. drain plug removal tool
From: "dmc1982" <dmc1982_at_dml_email.msn.com>

15. Re: High idle probs...
From: specialtauto_at_dml_yahoo.com

16. Re: Vanity plates
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

17. The yearly A/C question
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>

18. Re: Re: Vanity plates....creative!~
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

19. Health problems in Ireland??
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

20. Re: Health problems in Ireland??
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com

21. DeLorean B28F Reliability
From: sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com

22. Re: Health problems in Ireland??
From: raddad_at_dml_cmn.net

23. Re: Health problems in Ireland??
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

24. Re: drain plug removal tool
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

25. Re: The yearly A/C question
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:09:11 EST
From: CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Vanity plates....creative!~

I live here in Houston and I stop by DMC Houston often...its on the way to 
work and school after all.

Well about a month ago I was there and I saw a DeLorean in their lot with a 
liscense plate that said "PERPHECT" and I was trying to figure out what it 
meant. Obviously it meant "perfect" but why? ...Then it hit me that Marty 
McFly ALWAYS used to say "perfect" after Doc would give him a strand of bad 
news etc.

I thought that it was nice to see a bit of creativity in the plate....I see 
so many variations on the word "TIME" on the plates it was just nice to see a 
BTTF related plate that was completely unique!

Whoever has that plate, congradulations on your creativity!

Justin
5172



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:42:55 EST
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Engine compartment light

In a message dated 3/2/01 2:13:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net writes:

<< (Wire was off one side of the switch,
 checked the switch first for continuity, worked just fine). >>

Some owners have deliberately disconnected their engine compartment lights 
due to a rare but possible no-turn-off situation where the lens overheats and 
melts.  Hot plastic blobs on a hot muffler... not good.  When you have it 
working again, you might want to leave the one connector disconnected except 
when you actually need light.

Wayne A. Ernst
The New DeLorean Manuals Project



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 08:12:04 -0000
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
Subject: Re: Vanity plates and Back to the Future

I was going to put a Back to the Future type plate on my car, but at 
the last minute my dad said...."Why not 'EGGS D'?"  Since my nick 
name is egg.  I thought it was cool.

Erik
4512
EGGS D

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., BondAtomic_at_dml_a... wrote:
> I think it's cool to have anything on the plate, as long as it's 
not 



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:00:44 EST
From: jalbin_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Accounting Paper For College Class

Since delorean motor was based in Belfast Ireland, it may have been subject 
to British accounting governance ... don't know what there equivalent of the 
SEC would be in the U.K.  .  I believe that Arthur Andersen & Co was the 
independent auditor.  



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 14:15:58 -0000
From: bob_at_dml_deloreanmotorcar.com
Subject: Re: Turn signal speeds

Check the grounds.  
When I had the same problem on the right, Grady said it was the 
ground.
Bob
VIN 17015
http://www.DeLoreanMotorcar.com




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:01:54 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Vanity plates....creative!~

Ohh....how about putting  "Heavy" on the plate....since "Everything is so
heavy in the future"

-----Original Message-----
From: CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:CIAsleeper22_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:09 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Vanity plates....creative!~


I live here in Houston and I stop by DMC Houston often...its on the way to
work and school after all.

Well about a month ago I was there and I saw a DeLorean in their lot with a
liscense plate that said "PERPHECT" 



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 07:34:20 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Speaker reconing

Not mentioned but FYI speakers can be reconed, I ran a radio/TV biz for
a lot of years and we had speakers reconed as a regular part of what we
did.  The reasons varied:  special mount, special size, special
configuration, the customer preferred to keep his old speaker, or
sometimes it was simply an economy move that saved up to 75% on some of
the better speakers.  If anyone needs a link I can supply the Southern
CA outfit we used but they're probably all across the country, ask your
local repair shop where they ship theirs or just have them handle it.

Les




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 15:40:48
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Belfast attendance poll

Regarding the "face to face" thread...

How about setting up a page on the DMCNews Website with passport photos 
(also maybe VIN's, e-mail addy's) of those who plan to attend the Eurofest 
in Belfast.

Would be nice with a photo gallery where those who are interested can submit 
a photo to be published online before the event takes place. Then it would 
be easy to recognize people.

How about it Dave?

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759

>From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DML] Belfast attendance poll
>
>It's kind of an internet geek-term for a meeting of people that
>normally never see each other in "real life" - like most of the list
>members here!



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:49:35 -0500
From: "Mike Cutting" <mcutting_at_dml_nt.net>
Subject: december 2000b

greetings..

i was just looking through the dmcnews.com "picture of the month" page and
saw the pic of the starship enterprise encountering a de lorean.  i thought
that something looked familiar about the car.  i took a closer look and
found the bleached rear left signal lense and the blurred out ontario
lisense plate and realized that it was my car!  i checked my web page and
yep, it was taken from my page!  i have emailed it to some friends..  thanks
ken rawlings.  since i have owned the car (june 1999), it has been
imortalized in a video game (midtown madness - go to
www.motocrossmadness2.com/midtown) and in star trek (one of my favourite
shows).  this is a happy day!

i guess it just goes to show that i should check the dmcnews.com page more
often!

cheers,
mike cutting
11434
www.nt.net/~mcutting





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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 07:46:33 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Turn signal speeds II

If you have a poor ground connection, concurrent with a speed
difference, you will have a dimming of the bulbs on that side.  When you
get a poor ground sufficient to change speed, you will have lower
voltage.  Without one side having dimmer lights not much chance of a
ground problem.  The way it works, think of a quick bi-metal strip that
gets hot and opens then closes quickly.  The greater the current drain
the hotter it gets and the quicker it opens and closes.  If  a bulb is
out on one side the current is less so that side takes longer to get hot
and cycle.  What was presented on the list was a perfect example of one
bulb out but since that doesn't  seem to be Andy's problem we're looking
in the corners.  If all bulbs are the same brightness they are all
getting the same voltage...no ground problem and no ground intercept
problem (wiring).

Les




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:53:05 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: DeLorean on "Ultimate 10"

I don't know if it has been discussed before, but the John DeLorean
cocaine sting was featured on the TLC (the learning channel) show
"Ultimate 10".

IMHO, it was good exposure because the show made it clear that it WAS A
STING, and DeLorean was never convicted.  

Check you local listings. :)



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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 08:01:06 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Engine compartment light II

Thanks for the response, I had read that they stayed on and that people
disconnected  them for that reason.  On my cars everything has to work
as intended (or better) if it's reasonably possible.  This was an easy
fix.  If I were going to show my car my first thought would be to take
out the courtesy lamp fuse and run a neat little (fused leg) wire pair
to a tiny switch hidden out of the way.  I may do it anyway I spend so
much time working on one thing or another with all of the doors and lids
open.  That fuse was out for most of my first month while chasing down
electrical problems.  The fuse box, by the way, is a great place to
check for strange current drain, just put your current indicating meter
across the fuse holder (use the volt meter first of course to see which
is +).

Les




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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:13:22 -0500
From: Brian Henderlong <bhender1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Speedvision/Hemmings DeLorean Spot

At 01:45 AM 03/02/2001, Jake wrote:
>Overall the segment was good, simply because they were 
>positive in representing the car.  <snip>  But I wish 
>the "expert" would have done his homework.

I agree with Jake's assessment of the segment.  I managed to tape the show
-- anyone who wants a copy, please contact me off list.

- Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL
- DeLorean: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
- Impala SS: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/brakes.htm



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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:22:11 -0500
From: "dmc1982" <dmc1982_at_dml_email.msn.com>
Subject: drain plug removal tool

O.K., I give . I know I have seen on the list but a search was negative,
where you can purchase the correct oil drain removal tool.  I have a
home-made one but my plug is stuck and I am messing it up .  Any ideas on
the part # and availability and/or stuck drain plug removal will be greatly
appreciated.

Cecil Longwisch
#10663







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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:06:18 -0000
From: specialtauto_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: High idle probs...

Nick, I have run the cars without the 02 sensor hooked up and had no 
difference in the idle. Just ran richer and used more gas. But, I 
would hook up the 02 and get back to original. Like others have said, 
valves, air vacuum leaks. Is the ECU idle unit working to adjust the 
Idle motor if not, or you need some to try, I will loan you some. 
Also make sure the idle speed switch is making contact and all wires 
are ok.
John hervey
specialtauto.com

  --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., njp548_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey List,
> 
>       Now that I got the timing right (using timing light, the 
notch on the 
> crankshaft lines up with the 13 degrees notch on the plate for 
cylinder #1) 
> but now I am 



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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:37:39 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Vanity plates

On my car, I decided to not go with the BTTF theme.  I hear enough jokes on
that theme already, yet it doesn't bother me.

Florida allows 7 characters with a half space in the middle somewhere.  I
ended up choosing WATSDAT.  I got the idea from someone else on the DML who
has WAWAZAT.  A lot of people look at my car and say, "What's that?" So I
figure that the tag fits.

Don't feel like a copy cat.  Just because someone uses it in one state
doesn't mean that you can't use it on your car in another state.  Besides,
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Other choices that I considered are the following:
OUTATYM  already taken
TYMMACH
TYMWARP
GIGAWAT  already taken
TINFOIL  what many D's look like at night under street lights
PROFESR
FLUXCAP
COOLCAR
KEWLCAR variations already taken
KEWLKAR
INNOTYM
IN2TYM  variations already taken
2COOL4U  variations already taken

There was (and I assume still is) an area on the DML that has a collection
of DMC tags that people send in.  I plan on sending mine in when I get
around to having a good picture made of it.  I saw a similar compilation
picture on someone's web site, but I haven't a clue where it is now.
Perhaps someone can say?  Looking at it might give you some ideas.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:35:44 -0700
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: The yearly A/C question

Dear list,

I had my suspicions confirmed yesterday when I found that I was completely
out of R-12 due to an A/C compressor thatís shot.  Iíve been expecting this
since I got the car, as itís another one of those ď19-year-old things.Ē

The question seems to come up yearly, so Iíll be the one to ask it this year
with the idea that your opinions this year are better than last yearís.

Should I convert to R-134a?  The AZ-D club mechanic, Stan Davis, who is the
owner of Mesa Auto Works, said that I wonít be able to get R-12 in a year.
He also said that 134a is made colder by a new adjustable orifice tube (my
paraphrase may not be exactly correct there) that adjusts to make it a bit
colder.  Should I hunt down and pay more for the colder, stock R-12 or
convert to the 134a?

Also, he recommended that I look into having the compressor rebuilt rather
than replaced.  Has anyone done this, and if so was it worthwhile or would
it be easier (in the long run) to just get a new one?

I donít have much time before it starts to get hot here, so I have to get
something done.  Any and all opinions are welcome and appreciated.

Thanks,

Ryan McCaffrey
#10014
Arizona DeLorean Club


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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:10:57 -0000
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Vanity plates....creative!~

In the UK we have a system where you can buy plates..some of the one's I
would like, I list...with there prices in dollars!

RHD 1   $29,000.
GUII      $3,200
GUI 12  $20,000.
D12 DMC was recently bought for only $800!
BAK 2 IT  is on one members car.

Etc. Etc.

Chris P DOC UK

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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:55:54 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Health problems in Ireland??

Anyone from Ireland care to comment on the health situation there??

We keep hearing and reading of Mad cow, and hoof in mouth problems.

I am concerned that US customs may not let us back home!  :)


See:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/abc/20010227/wl/animal_disease_swamps_britain_1.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010302/od/stpatrick_dc_1.html



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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:34:01 EST
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Health problems in Ireland??

In a message dated 03-Mar-01 8:11:57 PM GMT Standard Time, 
malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:

> Anyone from Ireland care to comment on the health situation there?? 
>  We keep hearing and reading of Mad cow, and hoof in mouth problems.
>  I am concerned that US customs may not let us back home!  :)

Marc,
There is one small outbreak of Foot and Mouth in a remote rural part of 
Ireland but it is currently under control by the agriculture authorities 
here.   Press reports in Britain should not be confused with Ireland - 
there's a large pond called the Irish sea that seperates the two countries.   
Eurofest 2001 does not intend visting any farms during the convention and to 
the best of my knowledge F & M does not affect the DeLorean car anyway, and 
neither does it affect humans!   The event is three months away and so far we 
have had registrations confirmed from several countries, so short of bubonic 
plague breaking out there's nothing to get excited about.   Your concern 
about the US Customs not letting you back home is total nonsense!
Best wishes,
Robert Lamrock
Eurofest 2001 organiser - Belfast.
  



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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 21:59:11 -0000
From: sean_dmc1_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: DeLorean B28F Reliability


Group,

       In searching around on the internet, I have been reading a lot 
of bad press about the Volvo B27 and B28F engines. I have read of 
their propensity to eat camshafts, leak oil and overheat. I 
understand that there were improvements to the B28F engine, like 
increased lubrication. I was just curious what steps can be taken to 
improve the reliability of the engine? I owned a DeLorean before and 
want to get another one, but am just curious what can be done to aid 
in making a DeLorean a "daily driver" car. Any info would be greatly 
appreciated. Thanks!

Sean Spurlock




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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:18:38 -0700
From: raddad_at_dml_cmn.net
Subject: Re: Health problems in Ireland??

I spent two wonderful weeks in Ireland and Northern Ireland this past year
while riding my bicycle around the world.  I can assure you that ANY health
problems you may encounter will be immediately cured by that wonderful
Irish medicine - - Guinness.  As their ads say, "Guinness is good for you"!

Damn sorry that I will not be able to join you both to see the factory and
to have some more "mother's milk".

Dick (of course I'm Irish) Ryan
VIN 16867





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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:40:35 -0000
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: Health problems in Ireland??

Foot AND mouth, only effects "clove hoofed " animals..is there something
your not telling us Mark?
Any way, it should be well sorted by then.

BSE can take up to 20 years to develop ( it is a disease that some old beef
cows got), now it very rare, and only beef younger than 30 months old are
allowed to be used for human consumption. It has not stopped most people
eating beef, including me.

You probably have a much better chance of being struck by a meteorite than
by contacting one of these food related illnesses in Belfast.

Chris P DOC UK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc A Levy" <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
To: "DMC News" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 3:55 PM
Subject: [DML] Health problems in Ireland??


> Anyone from Ireland care to comment on the health situation there??
>
> 



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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 21:04:17 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: drain plug removal tool

I know that Rob at PJ Grady sells them, that's where I got mine.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "dmc1982" <dmc1982_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> O.K., I give . I know I have seen on the list but a search was 
negative,
> where you can purchase the correct oil drain removal tool.  I have a
> home-made one but my plug is stuck and I am messing it up .  Any 
ideas on
> the part # and availability and/or stuck drain plug removal will be 
greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Cecil Longwisch
> #10663




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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 21:10:22 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: The yearly A/C question

I was just talking to a Heating/cooling place that rebuilds them. The 
guy there said that either rebuilt or new they will be the same in 
quality and guarantee (at least from him). He said that he sends the 
compressors out to a place in florida to be rebuilt and that the only 
thing that they reuse on the compressor is the housing itself, 
everything else is new. The rebuilt ones are cheaper than new ones.

Steve

<SNIP> 
> Also, he recommended that I look into having the compressor rebuilt 
rather
> than replaced.  Has anyone done this, and if so was it worthwhile 
or would
> it be easier (in the long run) to just get a new one?
> 
> I don't have much time before it starts to get hot here, so I have 
to get
> something done.  Any and all opinions are welcome and appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ryan McCaffrey
> #10014
> Arizona DeLorean Club





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