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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 455
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:14 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Pictures in vault.
From: "Rob Hook" <rob_hook_at_dml_cavtel.net>

2. Pathetic horns?
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

3. Re: Eagle Premier 3.0
From: shirazcupala_at_dml_home.com

4. Re: Headlight trouble
From: Henry Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

5. Re: Eagle Premier 3.0L - PICTURES
From: shirazcupala_at_dml_home.com

6. Door alignment
From: rbrogren_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: Headlight trouble
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Re: Stripping paint
From: "Skipper Landry" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>

9. RE. Headlight trouble
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>

10. Interesting find in door
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

11. Delorean & SVX
From: "J Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_netusa1.net>

12. Re: DeLoreans in Italy
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>

13. Re: DeLorean of the 90's?
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

14. Radio Antenna
From: sgross <sgross_at_dml_ifn.net>

15. Re: Scan your keys,before you lose them
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

16. Re: Interior lights
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

17. Power locks
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

18. Door light question
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

19. upper roof seal replacement
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com

20. Windshield washer nozzle
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

21. Re: DeLorean of the 90's?
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

22. lock module and power window motor for sale
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

23. Please contact me
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>

24. Re: DeLorean of the 90's?
From: "dmczr1" <dmczr1_at_dml_qwest.net>

25. Meeting on Wednesday, DeLorean for sale and Marni
From: Owen3164ever_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:07:33 -0500
From: "Rob Hook" <rob_hook_at_dml_cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: Pictures in vault.

Hey Mike...

I just noticed your picture of the BTTF pinball machine in Cancun.  I was in
Cancun last year and will probably go again this year.  Where is this
located?

--Rob




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:43:56 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Pathetic horns?

My horns sound like anemic French cab horns, do they all sound like
that?  I'd like macho horns, I don't want something that makes me want
to say "excuse me" on those rare occasions when I feel the need to
energize them.

In my previous life (GM cars) most had an adjustment, a lock nut and a
screw that would adjust the tone.  Do these horns have the same.  I'm
not going under the car any more than necessary, if these aren't
adjustable I'll live with my embarrassment.

Thanks, Les




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:23:54 -0000
From: shirazcupala_at_dml_home.com
Subject: Re: Eagle Premier 3.0

Darryl,

That's very interesting. Thanks for the correction! I must have 
misunderstood what was told to me. I have to trust your knowledge 
since you know these cars inside and out.

shiraz

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl_at_dml_t...> wrote:
> > the thermometer in the newer engine is in the engine block 
instead of
> > in the coolant like in the stock DeLorean. Why does that matter? 
Well
> > when you lose your coolant your temp gauge doesn't show the engine
> > overheating.
> 
> Umm, I hate to be the one to point this out Sheraz, but the DeLorean
> temperature sending unit is in the RH cylinder head, not in the 
coolant
> line.  There is no reason it should not show the correct engine 
temp.
> 
> -- 
> Darryl Tinnerstet
> Specialty Automotive
> McCleary, WA




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:39:54 -0800
From: Henry Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Headlight trouble

Many companies make the 1A1 (inner-high beam only) and 2A1 (outer-high/low beam
combo) headlights that fit our cars.  But, if you are trying to keep your car
'concours correct' the originals were Sylvania.

Hank




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:47:40 -0000
From: shirazcupala_at_dml_home.com
Subject: Re: Eagle Premier 3.0L - PICTURES

The address for these has changed to:
http://members.home.net/shirazcupala/delorean/tech_pictures.htm
and I've added more pictures that someone requested.

shiraz

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., shirazcupala_at_dml_h... wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So after promising for a long time, I've finally taken some pics of
> my engine setup. Thanks Darryl for prompting me to do this. You
> actually encouraged me to setup my whole DeLorean web site.

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:59:11 EST
From: rbrogren_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Door alignment

Some time back there was an exchange about the need for the Stainless Steel 
Door Guides and that some of the earlier cars did not came with them 
installed. I can't find the reference, so here goes:

My car, VIN 1074, does not have the guides.
My doors align and open and close quite well.
Should I still install the guides?

(There is a set on e-bay, but Ian is the high bidder at this time and I don't 
want to mess him up if he need the guides and I don't!)
Roger


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:00:58 -1000
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Headlight trouble

Your lowbeam has 2 filaments in it; one low, one high. Change out your low 
beam headlight, and all will be beautiful again... :-)

---Dan



   Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:06:19 -0500
   From: Willie Mack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: Headlight trouble


> I have discovered that i have a headlight out on low beam.
>  However, when i switch to high beam the light comes on.

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:47:48 -0600
From: "Skipper Landry" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>
Subject: Re: Stripping paint

i am stripping the paint off mine, if you want to know how it is going, let
me know, ill be happy to let you know what i am finding...only have the top
"T" section and the rear top supports to go!!!

         YEA!!

Skipper Landry
Baton Rouge, La.

----- Original Message -----
From: <rpeckhoff_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: [DML] Stripping paint


> I was wondering if is was possible to strip a painted delorean by
> spreading break fluid across the panels.  Would this method damage
> the SS panels?
>

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:22:28 -0000
From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: RE. Headlight trouble


The headlight switch has a small orange clip in it which keeps it in place
when you put it on dip and beam, mine broke but rather that spend money on
replacing it with a new unit I found the same Lucas part on a Mini in a
scrap yard. People will probably reply saying that the Mini headlight
dip/beam unit will not fit over the DeLorean steering column which is true
but the plastic clip on the Mini switch unit is the same and can be put into
the DeLorean switch. The only difference I found was that the piece of
plastic was yellow rather than orange.
There are a couple of springs in the switch unit when you take it apart but
if you take it apart slowly nothing should fly anywhere, it is one of those
jobs you want to do at the breakfast table rather than  in the work shop.

On the first page of my home page www.dmc12.co.uk you can see the orange
transplanted component I did document the job in great detail but sadly I
have lost the pictures.

Anyway hope this helps.

Regards

James Rg
England




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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:07:30 EST
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Interesting find in door

Hello
My dad and I are working on the driver's side window 'regulator,' and when we 
were searching around in there, a piece of small paper came out. It reads:

DE LOREAN
51245754 F
101407
ISSUE 8    

Does anyone know what any of this means, especially the "ISSUE 8."

Thanks a lot,
John Feldman
VIN 4275


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:19:21 -0500
From: "J Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_netusa1.net>
Subject: Delorean & SVX

    I've got a '92 SVX. Fast, Handles well and an all around blast to drive. All wheel drive is a great 
thing. The split windows helps keep me from having withdrawls until I get the Delorean back out 
for spring in a few weeks :)

                                       Jason   #5903


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:00:45 -0000
From: "chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: DeLoreans in Italy

I believe Christopher Wirz in Switerland has sold cars into Italy. I think
it was quite hard to get them registered.
see http://www.delorean.ch/service/cwirz

Chris S

----- Original Message -----
From: IN2TIME <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: [DML] DeLoreans in Italy


> I need information on DeLoreans that might be available for purchase in
> Italy. 

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:56:31 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean of the 90's?

They pop up from time to time in auto trader for sale. In person I 
have only seen them from a distance, never up close. Very nice looking 
cars. From what I've seen on the internet, they do have a following of 
owners. The SVX seems to also have a few minor quirks like the 
DeLorean does, but nothing that is too serious. Interior looks nice 
and comfortable as well.

Thought about buying one before, but I just could never find one with 
a manual transmission...

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_c...> wrote:
>   I was wondering how many 'D' owners also have A Subaru SVX.

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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:59:01 -0800
From: sgross <sgross_at_dml_ifn.net>
Subject: Radio Antenna

Hello everyone,

My power antenna broke the other day so I removed it and found that the
plastic cable snapped. My question is ,is their a better unit now
available to replace the 20 year old motor,or should I just replace the
antenna mast.
Thanks for any advise you might have,
Steve
#4602



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:05:48 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Re: Scan your keys,before you lose them

Claude wrote:

> For future referance I would suggest you scan your keys into your 
> computer (both sides)and make them to scale(1 to 1)

I'm not sure about the 2-key-cars, but the key on my car is 
symmetrical, so you'd only have to scan one side...

I happened to stumble upon another GREAT possibility:
when I bought my car, all I got was 2 worn copies.
They worked quite well, but looked terrible.

Since I'm still working out technical bits 'n pieces I didn't
want to spend $24,95 on a key just yet, so I asked a local
locksmith for a copy with a plastic head, just so it would 
look better on my keyring (call it vanity if you will...)

What happened then was a big surprise to me:
het took out his "Book of Keys" with an actual match for the
DeLorean key in it and clamped my "original copy" in a
touch-scanner...  He was able to determine the ORIGINAL
cuttingsequence for my car! 

I got a nice, SHARP key, which woked instantly. The ignition 
works even better with this NEW key than it did with the keys
I had! (on the doors too, but I don't really use those because 
of the remote on my alarm system. 
In fact I was so satisfied that I bought a second one as a 
spare; I didn't even have to bring an original: 
he had been so kind as to write down the sequence-number for me.
Total costs for two keys including cutting was less than $13,-

I'm in the Netherlands, so I'm not sure if it can be of any 
help to anyone outside Europe, but if anyone wants, I can
go check out what kind of machine they used...

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

check out the Delorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
------------------------------

PS. If you can't bring your car to the locksmith for testing
the keys, bring along the lid for the box behind the driversseat!
If it works in there it allmost surely will on the other lock too!



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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:12:50 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Re: Interior lights

With all this talk about the Hummer-lights and all;
HOW exactely do the function?

On a D the middle position is off, forward is doors
and backward is allways on, does the Hummer-light work?

I'd like to have a light that lights when the doors open
on the middle position, this way the light is more flush
with the rest of the roof.
Forward en backward don't really matter, since thats just
a matter of inserting the light the other way.

We've had a Citroen BX at home that had this, 
but those lights don't seem to fit...
That it wouldn't be stock doesn't matter to me:
my car isn't stock anymore anyway...

Thanks for the info,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

check out the Delorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:10:45 EST
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Power locks

Assuming that the locks work together to lock and unlock eachother no matter 
which one you use, there is something wrong with ours.
Before working on the window regulator, everything worked right (except for 
the window.) So after we fixed that, we put most of the trim and stuff on, 
and decided to try everything in case something was wrong. Well, now we 
cannot lock the passenger side, but the passenger side can lock and unlock 
the driver side. Also, the driver side can unlock when the passenger side is 
locked.

We looked around at everything, and couldn't find anything wrong.
Any ideas???

Thanks, 
John Feldman
VIN 4275


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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:18:50 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Door light question

Light switches work fine, all the door lights go out, door open warning
light comes on with doors closed (ignition on, of course).  Also
involved, courtesy delay circuit doesn't work, courtesy lights stay on
all the time, even with delay unit pulled.  I can't see why on the
diagram, any clues?  Would have to be a ground between the diodes, would
it not, but how could that be?

Thanks, Les




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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:28:04 -0000
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: upper roof seal replacement

Hi all,

  I'm thinking of replacing both upper door/roof seals. I've seen a 
post or two in the archives about this, but I was hoping someone 
could give me a few more pointers than what was said. I know that 
going to far with the drill will end in disaster, but other than that 
what do you suggest? What tools are best to use? Are those rivets 
Stainless Steel (should I get them from DMC Houston)?

  Also, exactly how important are they? I assume they can't totally 
prevent water from entering the torsion bar area, so is it ok to get 
lots of water in there? Mine are pretty much gone, so I'm avoiding 
any water for now.

Thanks a bunch!
Tyler
#3472




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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:40:39 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Windshield washer nozzle

It's held on by two twisted pieces of rusty wire, that can't be right
can it?  Doesn't show in the book.

Thanks, Les




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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:02:59 -0600
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean of the 90's?

How about a picture? I'm not familiar with that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 4:10 PM
Subject: [DML] DeLorean of the 90's?


>   I was wondering how many 'D' owners also have A Subaru SVX.

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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:56:27 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: lock module and power window motor for sale

in case anyone is interested, i'm not trying to make a big profit off of 
these, but if anyone would like them, they're up for grabs:

1.  OEM lock module.  a couple of fried wires on the harness, but if you know 
what you are doing, you can fix it up so it won't cause problems with your 
locks.  OR, just take it and try to do something original with it.  it works 
perfectly, at least it did when i took it out a couple weeks ago. $10 shipped 
takes it.

2.  one heavy duty window regulator. used.  This was in my driver's side door 
and worked just fine when i took it out.  i bought a new pair of motors from 
PJ Grady since i was in my doors anyway, and thought i'd change all this old 
stuff out.  well i found this upgraded one in the driver's side but i 
replaced it anyway since i had new stuff!  it works just fine, but it is 
shipped as is.  $35 shipped takes this one.

if no one here replys in a couple days, i'll put 'em on ebay.  but the list 
gets first dibbs.  reply privately please.  

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:34:51 -0700
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>
Subject: Please contact me

Micah Fryman, if you are out there please contact me.
Thanks.

-- 
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
4 LaBelle Lane
McCleary, WA 98557
PH: 360-495-4640
FAX: 360-495-4680




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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:34:44 -0700
From: "dmczr1" <dmczr1_at_dml_qwest.net>
Subject: Re: DeLorean of the 90's?

YES!  I was wondering why someone else on the DML hadn't paid much attention
to the SVX.  Actually, I had the SVX first and then wound up with the
DeLorean.  I live in Colorado and the SVX is the perfect all-weather sports
car.  Size-wise it reminds me allot of the Trans Am I used to own.  It's
also practical, reliable, and comfortable.  I feel the SVX was one of the
most underrated cars of all time.

PS I notice your D's VIN is very close to mine.

Jack Janney
'82 #10901
'94 SVX

----- Original Message -----
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 3:10 PM
Subject: [DML] DeLorean of the 90's?


>   I was wondering how many 'D' owners also have A Subaru SVX.

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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:54:46 EST
From: Owen3164ever_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Meeting on Wednesday, DeLorean for sale and Marni

First off, I am sad to say that I have to work at the Lombard Jewel tomorrow 
at 5-10PM. =( But Dave, I would like to ask you to keep me posted about that 
one meeting at Neuqua Valley high school. I would also be kinda shy in front 
of all ya's, me being the non-adult in Schamberg. Hope you guys have fun 
though. I would like a copy of that Cleveland tape from the car show if you 
don't mind...I'm willing to pay for it too.

Dave, I would like some info about that DeLorean that's almost in mint 
condition that you said about earlier. Thanks.

Marni, thank you so much for your offer!! I'm all for that!! I can't wait 
till the nice weather sets in. I just can't thank you enough that you'd let 
me have a ride in it!!!!  I have been going crazy ever since i read your 
email. I can't calm down, hehe. Keep me posted and write back.

Write back Dave and Marni and anyone else w/input.
Thank you so much everyone, you all are the best (I don't care what they say! 
LoL!)
Later,
Justin



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