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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 459
Date: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:35 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Firestar 500
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

2. Re: more updates - my watery fuel pump
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

3. Door Solenoids
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

4. Re: Gold DeLorean - Plus Torsion Bars
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

5. RE: Firestar 500
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_home.com>

6. Re: RE.RE. Headlight trouble
From: CBL302_at_dml_msn.com

7. my latest fuel problem
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: RE.RE. Headlight trouble
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

9. Fun first day with my car...but I have a radio question!
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

10. Re: Newbie questions
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

11. Re: Door alignment
From: mrvideosawyer_at_dml_netscape.net

12. Re: Vanity Plate Ideas
From: Rick Barranco <toccata_at_dml_magicnet.net>

13. liability contract for shows
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>

14. Re: I got my new car today and I am "Living the dream"
From: "Doug Venner" <dmc12_at_dml_prodigy.net>

15. Re: Gold DeLorean.
From: "Tamir Ardon" <tamir_at_dml_entermyworld.com>

16. Re: testing watery fuel pump
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: removing fuel pump
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

18. Re: update to 'car mysteriously won't start'
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

19. Re: Vanity Plate Ideas
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

20. Fuse Box Cover
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

21. Re: my latest fuel problem
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

22. Re: Door alignment
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

23. Gold DeLorean
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>

24. Re: I got my new car today and I am "Living the dream"
From: Dmc3360_at_dml_aol.com

25. Re: fuse box cover
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fisherdesign.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:22:55 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Firestar 500

The Firestar 500 was a concept car to help the rebirth of DMC. Back 
in 1985 after the drug trial was over, efforts were under way to 
restart DMC. The idea was to purchase the remaining parts from KAPAC 
in Ohio. From the parts, 2 cars could be built, the DMC-12, and the 
Firestar 500. The FS 500 was basicly going to be the DMC-12 with 
different facias, new rims, and a more powerfull engine. As well as a 
sizeable rear wing on the back. The idea for the company was the DMC 
would now have most of their assets back in the form of parts. But, 
they would now be paid for in full since they would have been 
purchased from KAPAC. And from here of course they could build new 
cars and take profits from these car sales to reinvest in the 
company. JZD was so close at the time that he even had backers and 
investors with cash in hand. But alas the government stepped in and 
stopped him when JZD was once again placed on trial. But this time 
for fraud. It should be noted however that JZD was also aquited from 
this trial as well.

As far as a new car being put out in '99. JZD did talk in '97 about 
the possibility of a new car comming off the assembly line in '99. 
How did the rumor start that it was the Firestar 500? JZD talked 
about his plans for a new sports car, and it think that it was 
assumed/hoped from there that the car was to be the FS 500.

-Robert
vin 6585

p.s. On an interesting side note to this story, there was a movie 
back in the 80's called "Collision Course". The movie stared Jay Leno 
and others (Pat Morita too, I think...). An interesting side plot in 
the movie is a Detriot Excutive who puts out a line of cars that bear 
his own name. One of which is called the Starfire! It also has some 
other references to others such as Roy Nesseth, and seedy dealings. 
However this time rather then drug dealers, it corrupt politicians.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Paul" <DeLorean53_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Anyone know about this Firestar 500? i  heard it was going to come 
> out in 99 but obviously that hasnt happened




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:01:45 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: more updates - my watery fuel pump

Going out on a limb here, I'd say that your pump is probably ok. 
Check the pick up hose, and make sure that it is intact and in good 
condition.

Try swapping the Control Pressure Regulator plug with the Cold Start 
Valve, and see if that starts the engine up. If no go, remove the 
cold start valve to inspect it to make sure it isn't clogged. Since 
the engine is coughing, it's getting fuel. But probably not enough to 
start it since it's cold.

Since Wayne A. Ernst did such a good job on how to seal the fuel 
pump, there isn't a reason to repeat anything he said. You can 
install a water defector to keep rain and wash water away from the 
boot. But if you have sealed everything correctly, the deflector 
isn't nessisary.

-Robert
vin 6585

p.s. a quick way to check if the pump is working: Have a 2nd person 
jump the relay to turn the pump on manually. Then check to see if any 
fuel comes out of the return hose in the tank. Just remember to keep 
some bare skin against a body panel to keep yourself grounded and you 
should be fine. But as a precaution, I would only do it long enough 
to check for flow. And I would only do it if you feel comfortable 
with the procedure.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> the responses and help just keep coming in!
> last night i plugged in my cleaned up and newly rewired fuel pump 
into my 
> harness and turned the key.  it still works!  and sounds strong 
too.  so 
> since it works upon ignition, that would indicate that my problem 
does not 
> lie in my fuel pump or any other fuel system components up to that 
point.  
> i.e., my relays aren't fried, pump works




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:13:39 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Door Solenoids

Can anyone here tell me if it is a difficult job to rewind the dooor 
solenoids? According to the Technical Library, each solenoid takes 
70' of #20 enameled motor wire. Since chances are that I'll need to 
replace the passenger side solenoid, I was looking at this fix as a 
possible alternative.

-Robert
vin 6585




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:29:55 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: Gold DeLorean - Plus Torsion Bars

Good eye seeing those sliding windows, but I dont know whats up with 
them either.

I acually have another question spawned upon reading part of the 
article legible in one of the pictures.  It said "the doors are 
counterbalanced using cryogenically pre-set stainless steel torsion 
bars".  Whats up with this stainless still bit?  There was a short 
discussion I brought up a few months ago about this, and I thought it 
was settled that the torsion bars were regular steel.  I looked at 
mine, and sure enough, it looks like there is a tad bit of surface 
rust on small parts of them.  This almost has me concerned though, if 
the torsion bars will rust, wont that pose a safety hazard considering 
the power stored in them?  So perhaps we could get an "offical" word 
on the construction of the torsion bars.  Are they regular, or 
stainless?

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Hey everybody,
> I was looking at an American Express Christmas catalogue (with Gold 
> DeLorean) on Ebay - Item #1123230610.
> I noticed that the car pictured has sliding windows. The gold 
> DeLoreans I have seen all had regular tool booth windows, so whats 
> the story with this car? Was it a fake gold car, a prototype simply 
> painted gold? Where is it now!
> Another question, did DMC make a few sets of spare gold plated 
> panels, or were they all used up in the 3 or 4 that were built?
> Thanks,
> John Dore, Ireland.




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:31:12 -0600
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: RE: Firestar 500


>>>Anyone know about this Firestar 500? i  heard it was going to come
out in 99 but obviously that hasnt happened>>>>

The Firestar 500 was a DMC-2 concept that John was playing with around
1985-1986. I saw it in a few short magazine article blurbs around
the time the whole cocaine trial was winding down. Although I haven't
seen any design photos yet of the new sport car or cars that John is wanting
to
get into production, we can only speculate as to whether they will look
anything like
the Firestar 500. Here's a link to a picture of it on the Delorean Motor
Club of Canada's site.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/8842/firestar.html







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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:59:30 -0000
From: CBL302_at_dml_msn.com
Subject: Re: RE.RE. Headlight trouble

Good advice,
But unfourtunely,here in the USA,the 1985 Mini car you describe to 
get the part from is as common as You finding a 1985 Chevy 
Chevette,in your salvage yards,they are just not found here,The 
Triumph Tr7 or Tr8,should have the same stalk/comb switch,they are a 
more common car on both sides of the Ocean.

Claude
000570

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Vin#5462" <dmc12_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> It only cost me around $15.00 to buy a switch unit from
> a Mini car in a scrapyard (or junkyard as I think you
> refer to them in the USA) don't you think it is worth
> trying to fix it, when you take the unit apart you will
> see how basic it is.

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:20 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: my latest fuel problem

Hello Guys,

after four days of investigations, i've gotten my car to the point where i 
can start it and it will idle for about 10 seconds, then die.  

here are the things i have checked:
1. fuel pump is good. needs baffle though
2.  RPM relay functions
3.  all vacuum hoses appear to be connected
4.  if you hold down the air valve on the intake manifold, the car will run 
indefinitely as long as you have the piece pushed down a few millimeters.  
this indicates incorrect mixture levels since my vacuum hoses appear to be 
correct.
5.  i have all the brass fittings on the water pump near the banjo and dome 
nut so that pressure is right there.

HOWEVER:
i have discovered that now that the car will run for a bit, i have gasoline 
spilling out all over my underbody.  i have observed two pipes which run 
parallel near each other, then split off and go to different sides of the 
engine near the transmission.  where the pipes are close together is where 
the gas seems to be leaking out.  quite a bit of it comes out, too.  it drips 
quickly from both pipes an equal amount. i do not know if the pipes 
themselves are leaking (i don't even know if they are fuel pipes) or if the 
leak is coming from above the big pipes. 

i had the car towed over to a local service center to find out if they can 
get the car on a hoist and see what's happening down there.

anyone here have any ideas on what's happening? if you need more details, i 
will try to give them!

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:06:16 EST
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: RE.RE. Headlight trouble



    Thank you for your reply. It is great to hear that you sourced a Mini 
Cooper with the same stalks as on the DeLorean. I'm happy to hear that you 
and your car are becoming familiar with each other.

By the way have you looked at an Austin Allegro? 
I was informed that the stalks and some of the electric's are the same too.

    However, the Mini is not imported to the USA at the moment. That is why I 
recommended a DeLorean correct part for the gentleman. I understand your 
intention was to assist another owners concern and ease his thoughts about 
spending money on a repair. 

    The last time I checked at our Bowie British Car Day there were very 
limited numbers of Mini's here in the USA. The number of Mini's in our 
American scrap yards is probably non existent too.
     It is bad news to hear that Mini's are plentiful in scrap yards in the 
UK.  I wanted to purchase one when they go on sale here in the USA next year. 

    I'm starting to believe after many years of reading, researching and 
driving DeLoreans that many "correct for the car," AKA DeLorean parts, are 
available at DeLorean parts suppliers, such as those in the DeLorean World 
Magazine. 
    
    Imagine that, DeLorean parts are available! 

    Who would have thought that buying & driving a 20 year old car would 
require maintenance and replacement parts?

    I hate to hear that a new DeLorean owner or veteran owner has to perform 
an expensive part replacement or contract a DeLorean specialist to overhaul 
their Gullwing Stainless Steel Super Car.

    I'm starting to believe that many of the DeLoreans' that have to undergo 
such intensive care and restoration are those that had questionable repair 
methods and incorrect parts...parts probably from a scrap yard?

Sincerely,
Mike Pack



<< 
 "The internal part that goes "click-click" is plastic. It probably broke
 inside, and believe me it is not worth the time to fix. There are many ball
 bearings, etc., inside. So more than likely you will have to replace the
 stalk mechanism. $165.00"
 
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:36:37 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Fun first day with my car...but I have a radio question!

Ok...so I played hooky today from work to register my new DMC and drive it
around all day (thanks to the guy upstairs for holding off on the predicted
rain!)

Everything was great....EXCEPT.....

How the heck do you set the time on the damn radio!!???

Kevin A.
Vin #16680




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:03:09 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Newbie questions

Try to order most of your parts from the Delorean venders, you also 
get their invaluable advice included with the parts! As for the 
leather Lexol cleaner and protecter is the premium stuff to use on 
leather. It is expensive but a little goes a long way. For cleaning 
products try www.griotsgarage.com. or your local auto parts store.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Wright, Ryan (LW)" <Ryan.Wright_at_dml_l...> wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Well, it's official. My next car is going to be a Delorean. First, I 
have to
> come up with the money (should be set in a few months), then I'm 
going
> shopping. In the meantime, I need to learn every little thing about 
the car
-Ryan




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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:24:07 -0500
From: mrvideosawyer_at_dml_netscape.net
Subject: Re: Door alignment

Group,

Can doors be removed without taking out torsion bars??  The insides would be easier to work on when on the bench.

Jim
Vin4149 "ELMO"
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:34:33 -0500
From: Rick Barranco <toccata_at_dml_magicnet.net>
Subject: Re: Vanity Plate Ideas

Rick Barranco
81
Vin3268

"DMCXII"

Kevin Abato wrote:

> Ok...I have been stewing over this for a few days now.....
> These are the ideas I have for my vanity plate...tell me what you like,
> don't like, etc...
> TYMMCHN
> TYMACHN
> DMC-12
> 88 MPH . . .
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:47:31 -0700
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: liability contract for shows

Dear List,

Does anyone have a copy (preferably electronic) of a contract for a
show/event they’ve done stating that the group putting on the event is
liable for damage/theft/etc….?  I need a copy for something coming up in
May.

I think I remember a DMC Joe posting a while back saying he has one.  How
about it Joe?  Or anybody else?  Perhaps this is something that belongs in
the Files section of Yahoo Groups?

Thanks in advance,

Ryan McCaffrey
#10014
Arizona DeLorean Club


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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:22 -0500
From: "Doug Venner" <dmc12_at_dml_prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: I got my new car today and I am "Living the dream"

Wrote by Kevin:
> I purchased VIN# 6680 from Doug Venner in NJ and drove it home tonight.

BOY did Kevin Bust me on the list!
I got a call from Dan, Marc sent a post to the DML, now I'm just waiting for
a E-mail from Gary!!
I know, I know, I shouldn't of sold my car but my work situation is not
looking to get any better any time soon! I know Kevin will take good care of
#16680 and be able to attend the events that I wished I had the time to
attend. Have fun with Her Kevin!! and KIT!
I will own a Delorean again...some day, mark my words!
Doug Venner    NJ
Former owner #15880 & 16680




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:06:09 -0800
From: "Tamir Ardon" <tamir_at_dml_entermyworld.com>
Subject: Re: Gold DeLorean.

The Gold DeLorean on the cover of the catalog is a poorly done illustration
using the last prototype DeLorean.  They merely colored the car Gold.
Notice not only the sliding windows, but the side markers are touching the
fascias.  There is no rear louver either.

My information on the actual Gold DeLoreans produced is that after the two
were built in late 1981, there were enough extra panels only to make one
more car, and that was the last DeLorean made.

Regards,
Tamir
http://www.entermyworld.com


> Hey everybody,
> I was looking at an American Express Christmas catalogue (with Gold
> DeLorean) on Ebay - Item #1123230610.
> I noticed that the car pictured has sliding windows. The gold
> DeLoreans I have seen all had regular tool booth windows, so whats
> the story with this car? Was it a fake gold car, a prototype simply
> painted gold? Where is it now!
> Another question, did DMC make a few sets of spare gold plated
> panels, or were they all used up in the 3 or 4 that were built?
> Thanks,
> John Dore, Ireland.





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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:40:28 EST
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: testing watery fuel pump

In a message dated 3/15/01 3:57:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Soma576_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:

<< last night i plugged in my cleaned up and newly rewired fuel pump into my 
 harness and turned the key.  it still works!  and sounds strong too. >>

Don't run it without fuel to draw.  The fuel is the lubricant, and you could 
damage your pump testing it.

-Wayne A. Ernst
The New DeLorean Manuals Project
vin 11174



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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:42:57 -0000
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: removing fuel pump

Andy, I would definitly get the water/gas cleaned out of the boot and 
replair the cover so that doesn't happen again. I check mine 
periodically for that. Before you try to take the fuel pump out you 
might want to try one thing first. Lay a small piece of cardboard on 
top on the engine and take out the cold start valve and lay it on the 
cardboard. Then try to start the car, just a quick turn over or two. 
If gas is pumping and under pressure the cold start valve system is 
working ok then it will squirt a little gas onto it. If no gas, then 
I would proceed to make sure the pump is turning on when someone else 
turnes the key so you can listen or feel it. Normally it will turn on 
for a second or two then stop because it built up the pressure. Try 
that first. If the pump comes on and doesn't quit running, then it 
may have a broke diaphram. Runs but very little pressure.  The pump 
has and electric motor in it with a diaphram to create the pressure.
This will help to determine if it's gas problem or you can check the 
spark to the plugs. If you need help on removal it's pretty easy, and 
you can call my office 800-413-3300. 
John Hervey
specialTauto.com

 the --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> i think my problem with starting lies in my fuel pump.
> i opened my trunk and there's murky water inside the
> boot with all the connections underwater..... 
> hmm. :-(
> 
> can someone tell me if the pump is a gravity pull pump or how does 
it work?
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:49:30 -0000
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: update to 'car mysteriously won't start'

Andy, Due to the fact that new pumps cost about $150.00, you can see 
on my site. If you need to borrow a pump to test I could send you 
one. Don't throw away the old one. I get them rebuilt.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com



 --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> many thanks to everyone who replied while i try to determine
> why my car won't start lately.  
> 
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:10:17 -0500
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Vanity Plate Ideas

I thought of a good vanity plate idea, but it is BTTF related:

 DENSITY  (you know, when Marty's young father meant to say "destiny".)

Just an idea, I'm not using it though.

-Hank  #1619




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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:39:52
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Fuse Box Cover


Hello,

I'm looking into the re-manufacture of the long-lost fusebox cover. 
Depending on how many people that sign up for it (the more, the better / 
read:cheaper) expect the price to be around 200 dollars per cover. Yes, I 
know its expensive but at least I've found a company who says they can do 
it.

If interested e-mail me privately. There will be only one production run, so 
its now or never...

Best wishes from Norway,

Stian Birkeland

VIN # 06759

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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:16:29 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: my latest fuel problem

The fuel system is under HIGH pressure and there can be NO leaks. It 
could drip down onto the exhaust and BURN. Find the leaks and fix. 
After you can contol the leaks it might be that the mixture is way 
off. In Richmond this past summer a member had a car with the same 
symptoms and Rob Grady adjusted the mixture screw and got it running. 
To adjust properly you really need an anylizer but I guess with as 
much experience as Rob has he got it close.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



-- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hello Guys,
> 
> after four days of investigations, i've gotten my car to the point 
where i 
> can start it and it will idle for about 10 seconds, then die.  
> 

> 
> 
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:20:29 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Door alignment

The answer is NO. You MUST remove the torsion bar to remove a door. Be 
very careful working around the torsion bar, see the archives and old 
posts on the subject. It also isn't worth the work re-aligning the 
door after removing. Get a string and tie the door part-way closed as 
you sit on the door sill. Tape all sharp edges inside or you will get 
sliced up.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



-- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., mrvideosawyer_at_dml_n... wrote:
> Group,
> 
> Can doors be removed without taking out torsion bars??  The insides 
would be easier to work on when on the bench.
> 
> Jim
> Vin4149 "ELMO"
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:20:49 -0800
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>
Subject: Gold DeLorean

Re the Gold Deloreans,  about all I really know is what I READ (like everyone else) and I have most of the books and magazines that ever referred to the car.   From what I have gleaned from these sources, plus a couple phone calls, it appears that the two gold versions were built and ended up in museums.....at the time one of the articles said that it was "required" that parts be available for all cars.  So this included a full set of gold plated panels for repairs......when the company went belly up, someone decided those parts could be used for the third car so either the last car or near the last car was assembled by the workers WITH the gold panels.   

A few years ago the owner of this car let word out that he wanted to sell it.  I thought his price was awful low (at that time 75K) and called him a couple times.  He told me the cost of insurance was astronomical and he had in mind charging admission to SHOW IT.  It turned out to NOT be a practical money making venture at all so he wanted to get rid of it.  By the time I had thought about it for a short time and called him back, it was already sold.     FWIW Dept.

Murray Fisher
VIN: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State


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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:39:35 EST
From: Dmc3360_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: I got my new car today and I am "Living the dream"

Well Doug I was trying to be nice :-)  I am very sad to hear you have sold 
your car.  You have been a long time DML member and when I first bought my 
car you came to my house and helped me with it even though we had never met.  
I hope you will still attend the Mid Atlantic Club events and I extend an 
invitation to the new owner of your car also.  A reminder to all those in the 
area, our Spring Social will be April 21st.  Everyone is welcome to attend.  
Rob Grady will be there along with many other owners and enthusiasts.  Check 
the web site below for all the details

http://members.aol.com/delorean31/social.html

Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
VIN3360


> Wrote by Kevin:
> > I purchased VIN# 6680 from Doug Venner in NJ and drove it home tonight.
> 
> BOY did Kevin Bust me on the list!
> I got a call from Dan, Marc sent a post to the DML, now I'm just waiting for
> a E-mail from Gary!!
> I know, I know, I shouldn't of sold my car but my work situation is not
> looking to get any better any time soon! I know Kevin will take good care of
> #16680 and be able to attend the events that I wished I had the time to
> attend. Have fun with Her Kevin!! and KIT!
> I will own a Delorean again...some day, mark my words!
> Doug Venner    NJ
> Former owner #15880 &




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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:09:22 -0800
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fisherdesign.com>
Subject: Re: fuse box cover

(Note to moderator: Sorry for not sending this directly to
Stian...I accidently deleted his e-mail address before I could reply to
his posting.  Thanks!)


Stian,
    DON'T have these made for $200 apiece!  I can make them for about 50
cents American!
    I just don't want you to throw your money away.
        Sincerely,
        Josh
        VIN 5102
        VIN 15964

PS-Did Bauerle EVER call you back about that heat shield?  That guy is
just about the laziest/busiest person I've ever met!




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