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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 475
Date: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:14 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. DeLorean Midwest Connection Club Tech Session
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

2. RE: Now we need a name
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

3. Re: Now we need a name
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

4. DeLoreans in Va Beach?????
From: "David Silek" <dsilek_at_dml_email.msn.com>

5. RE: mode switch hissing etc.
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

6. A letter of thanks and a little more
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>

7. Re: Beware of Jag Shop - PLEASE READ
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

8. Calipers are in!
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

9. the ULTIMATE compliment on my D
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

10. lancia + uploading files...
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com>

11. RE: Now we need a name
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

12. RE: Now we need a name
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_imap.maya.com>

13. Newbie Corner
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

14. Re: RE: mode switch hissing etc.
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

15. Re: lancia + uploading files...
From: paulf52093_at_dml_aol.com

16. ADMIN Uploading Files
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

17. Re: A letter of thanks and a little more
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

18. RE: Hello list
From: "Wright, Ryan (LW)" <Ryan.Wright_at_dml_lambweston.com>

19. Re: Radio wiring - Need more help!
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>

20. Fuel Pump Check Valve.
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com

21. Re: Fuel Pump Check Valve.
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

22. PLANING FOR A DELOREAN
From: azb888_at_dml_cs.com

23. HELP!!!!!!!!!
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

24. Re: A letter of thanks and a little more
From: "sk1pper" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>

25. RE: PLANING FOR A DELOREAN
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:59:10 -0600
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: DeLorean Midwest Connection Club Tech Session

The DeLorean Midwest Connection club (Illinois/Indiana/Wisconsin) is having
its spring Tech Session/"fluid change fest" on May 12 in Naperville IL. This
is open to club members only (New Members are always welcome to join at the
session!). Don Steger will be our "guest mechanic" and will be available to
work on your car for a nominal cost. Do-it-yourselfers welcome too.

Please contact Don Gowler regarding club membership
[dongowler(AT)mediaone.net] and me at [dswingle(AT)enteract.com] regarding
scheduling time at the session.

Thanks;

Dave Swingle




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:23:12 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Now we need a name

How about NOD.   "New Owner Documentation"

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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:04 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Now we need a name


Mine is Delorean Newbe as someone said earlier.
or shoiuld it be De Lorean Newbe.
John Hervey


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:21:08 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Now we need a name

Since we have a Parts Manual to catalogue parts, and a Workshop 
Manual to detail repairs, how about calling it the DeLorean Startup 
Manual since it's goal will be to return cars to the road?

-Robert
vin 6585


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_c...> wrote:
> Ok guys what best exemplifies the task at hand.  Give me your best 
shot.
> 
> Here's mine:  So you bought a DeLorean, now what?
>                                 (A DeLorean Primer)
>  Your thoughts?
> 
> Thanks, Les




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:26:20 -0500
From: "David Silek" <dsilek_at_dml_email.msn.com>
Subject: DeLoreans in Va Beach?????

anybody else have a D. here in Va Beach area?
David Silek
757-467-0351

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From: <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering


> If you have concluded that the looseness, (play) is in the steering
> rack make sure that the bolts holding it to the frame are tight and
> the entire rack is not moving. If indeed the rack has play in it the
> recommended course of action is to remove and replace. The Delorean
> venders can supply a "rebuilt" rack with exchange of your old core. It
> is beyond the abilities of most to work on and the safety issues
> involved would make most consider repalcement. About the only thing
> you can do is lubricate if tight or "sticky" but that doesn't seem to
> be your problem.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
>
>
>
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., edherrmann_at_dml_y... wrote:
> > I was checking out the front end and noticed that it seems that
> > pushing and pulling on the sides of the tire it would move about 5
> > degrees before the steering shaft would move. Looking into it
> further
> > with the wheel off and checking the linkage of the steering rack it
> > seems that the rod that goes into the gear box has slop in it before
> > the steering shaft would move. Can this be fixed or do I need a new
> > rack and pinion assy and i read on a previous post someone asked if
> > there was a cross ref part for this pinion assy but could not find
> > out if it was answered.  Thanks  ED HERRMANN  VIN 16228
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:23:24 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: mode switch hissing etc.

With all due respect to Darryl T & Mike G,

Mike G's method of removing the radio is really slick, but it's not for me.
My opinion, especially for newbies, is to take the console cover off and
move the radio bracket forward to work on the radio and the a/c controls.
This is for several reasons:

1) The center air vents are rather fragile.  Without reaching behind the
dash to release the clips, I would be worried about breaking the plastic.
In order to get a hand in there, you are going to need to remove the console
cover.

2) The vinyl boots on the center air vents collapse too easily.  There was
no way I could get mine back together properly without access from the top.
I think some D's are missing these boots because some mechanics didn't have
the patience to fit them back without removing the console.

3) I admit that I have very large hands, and my hands were too big to reach
behind the console to access the mode switch.  I had to move the bracket
forward to have enough room to work.

On a similar subject, I have read posts about how many people like to remove
a seat to work under the dash.  To me, this would be a total waste of time.
I have no trouble slithering under there with the seats in place while other
people wouldn't even consider it.  Yet on the other hand, I wouldn't think
of working behind the radio bracket without first removing the console cover
and at least loosening the radio bracket.

Probably the best advice is to disturb as little as you can get away with.
And I'm sure that it helps to have small hands.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:49:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: A letter of thanks and a little more

Let me start by thanking Dave S. and the other
moderators of this group (not sure who you are), for
making it available.

Secondly, I'd like to thank each and every one of you
on here.. i've never seen so much support for anything
in my life as I get on here for the DeLorean.... if we
all lost our jobs, we could open up a customer service
consulting business, because i have seen no other
place in the world, cars, computers, or otherwise that
take the time and care, and understanding the folks on
this mailing list do to help others out...

Remember a few weeks ago i had posted the message
aboutgas leaking out of my car... got tons of
replies... i am NO mechanic trust me... i cant change
a tire... well, i ordered the tankzilla from pj grady
(who spent about 45 min of his busy schedule on the
phone with me, even though 40 phones were ringing in
the background)... he told me to order a few things,
but the wife vetoed the spending and i just got the
tankzilla...

Scared as hell, i removed the tire, tire case, and
waaalaa, there it was... the old sending unit... i was
thinking "no way can it be this easy!"... since i had
everything up, i felt all the hoses and they all seem
to be ok.. they are not gushy.. although they are
hard, and they dont leak.. well, i put the silicone on
the zilla-brain, popped in the new floaty thing, and
hooked her up.....

I warned my family to get a couple hundred feet from
the garage cuz I was gonna crank it... and there it
was, the moment of truth... for the first time in 15
years the fuel gauge moved!!! it was no longer
pointing straight up, it was showing just under a full
tank!!!! I almost cried for joy!!!

Ok there is where the hapiness ends...

The car runs great..... however, next to the sending
unit is a thing that had a rubber/plastic seal on it
which was no longer sealing anything, with two hoses
coming out of it  (its pictured in the tankzilla
instructions).. it had some liquid in it above the
electrical contacts under the boot, so i decided to
see what it was... stuck my hand in it.. and it seems
to be water, as it didnt stink like gas.... what is
this thing, and should i replace it???

PJ Grady's talked about a fuel kit... would this
resolve this thing's problem with the boot and such?

Secondly.... after starting the car and backing it out
for a nice 200 mile drive (now that i can see how much
gas i have), i happened to glance over at my battery
meter.. it was almost to 0.... like the alternator
wasnt working..... it was fine before... i am
wondering if maybe i screwed something up putting the
tankzilla in????  When the needle goes down to the
bottom like that, does it mean the battery, or, worse,
i need to get an alternator????  I am going to
disconnect the tanzilla tommorow and see if that
helps.. if it does maybe its grounding somewhere, if
not... i guess i'll buy the battery and if that doesnt
work, head for the alternator...

Now my big worry... as i said, car started, running
great... no probs... my wife said "oh my God! there is
smoke coming out of the front of the car!!!"

I didn't see any, but she wouldnt lie.. then she
complained of a stink.. that I did smell... it was a
metal rubbing metal type of stink....

I had antifreeze leaking out of the front of the car
badly three weeks ago.. i am thinking maybe it was
empty and the front of the car was getting hot because
there was no fluid or something???

Any ideas???  I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO proud of myself
getting the tankzilla in all by myself.... but these
two other problems (battery), and the stinky smell of
metal rubbing, scare me.... the oil gauge when i hit
the gas goes all the way to the top.. strong pressure,
  but when it idles its jumpy, and kinda on the low
side.... i am wondering if maybe something is wrong
there too....

car has 4K miles on it... and the tank was drained
when it was stored so it looks like my fuel system
will be in fairly good shape other than that boot
thingy.... cooling system, battery, and smoke stink
are probs now... any ideas appreciated! thanks again
for all of your help!

Mike


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:45:54 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Beware of Jag Shop - PLEASE READ

[ Moderators note: I just inherited the list for the week. From time to time we've seen people express their experiances both good and bad with various vendors. I belive we've seen enough on this subject so I'm ending this with the exception of allowing the Jag Shop an opportunity to offer it's side of this subject if they elect to do so.

Bruce Benson, this week's moderator ]


Regretfully so, I saw what was left of Tom's fuel system with my own eyes.
What apparently happened was theft.  I am shocked that the Jag Shop would do
such a thing or at least not be responsible for a vehicle that was left in
their care.  Maybe they had nothing to do with it.  Maybe it happened while
the car was in the care of a sub-contractor.  At first I thought that it
must have been a mistake.  Maybe in a dire need for new parts, they decided
to borrow some parts from another car and just so happened to get the parts
from the wrong donor car.  But then concerning the Jag Shop's attitude --
regardless of whether they are right or wrong in this situation -- I'm
certainly not dealing with them in the future if not only because of their
attitude toward Tom.

And in his e-mail, Tom gave those guys more credit for the fiberglass repair
than they deserve.  Tom had to re-do some of it himself to make it right.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:03:25 EST
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Calipers are in!

Hey List,

       I know its been a while since my last update, but I have been perty 
busy with work, and every time I have off from work it rains.  Today (Sunday) 
I was finally able to install all 4 of my calipers that were painted by 
fellow De Lorean restorer Steve Rubano (thanks again Steve!) and now that 
they are in, I have to finish off my steering connection, then I get to 
install the brake master, and then I can bleed the brake and clutch systems.  
Hopefully if it doesn't rain on Tuesday or Wednesday...I will try and install 
my interior parts also.  There is not that much stuff left that I need to do. 
 I just have the front fascia fitted on the front end, and I need to bolt 
that down, then I need to secure the rear fascia onto the car, then get that 
darn O2 sensor out, so I can get the new one in and to adjust the CO screw 
then just securing the engine compartment cover and the rear louvre, then I 
get to test drive it...finally!  Thats all for now.  As always...any 
questions please feel free to e-mail me.  

Later,
Nick
1852
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:15:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: the ULTIMATE compliment on my D

Last year I moved from Chicago out here to Silicon Valley. The other day
on my way to work in the morning, I decided to take a different route for
no known reason. I was on highway 280, just east of 85. A new yellow
mustang convertible came up behind me real fast. The car swung to my left
and kept pace next to me. I looked over, expecting to see look that we all
know - which I of course saw. It wasn't until a second later that I
realized that the passenger of the car was none other than Steve Jobs, the
founder of Apple Computers. We were on the highway right in front of
Apple's corporate headquarters.

I'm a young guy in the dot-com world, so naturally I've looked up to Steve
Jobs my whole life for being the pirate that he is. It was one of the
greatest compliments of my life to sit in my DeLorean, looking at Steve
Jobs, seeing the envy burning in his eyes!

I couldn't help but notice the similarity of the new Mac Titanium G4
notebook computer and the DeLorean. Have a look at Apple's latest
marketing:

http://www.framezero.com/apple.html

(look closely)

Good night,

Christian
VIN 3452




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:48:07 -0000
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: lancia + uploading files...

Hi List,
I tried to upload some pics of a Lancia Monte Carlo to the files 
section to show how similar the styling is on this car to a DeLorean -
 it's the closest I have ever seen! Anyway, it seems the moderators 
might have turned off our ability to load up images to the files 
section ??? so here's a link to a page with plenty pics for anyone 
who is interested. Notice it even has darker colored front facias! 
The best pics are towards the bottom of the page...
http://homepages.enterprise.net/montemike/monte/gallery.html
It was styled by Pininfarina, and launched around 1975. Do you think 
Giugario was a bit influenced by the design?
John. 




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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:04:18 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Now we need a name

How about FNG, "Futures New Guy/Girl"  You can make the letters stand for
other words if you like.

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031

-----Original Message-----
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:dherv10_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 8:04 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Now we need a name


Mine is Delorean Newbe as someone said earlier.
or shoiuld it be De Lorean Newbe.
John Hervey





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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:36:21 -0500
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_imap.maya.com>
Subject: RE: Now we need a name

How about "Now You've Done It!"

We could also write a companion document for spouses.
We could call it "You Bought a WHAT?"

:-)

--pete lucas
    VIN #06703

At 11:23 PM -0500 3/25/01, Kevin Abato wrote:
>How about NOD.   "New Owner Documentation"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:dherv10_at_dml_aol.com]
>Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:04 PM
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DML] Now we need a name
>
>
>Mine is Delorean Newbe as someone said earlier.
>or shoiuld it be De Lorean Newbe.
>John Hervey
>



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:17:53 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Newbie Corner

Favored name thus far, thanks for all of the suggestions, both on the
list and off.   My favorite from yesterday seemed too pretentious after
reading other suggestions.

Ready for content.

What I'm looking for is problems you encountered when you first got your
D and how you solved those problems (step by step including mistakes),
if possible.

Separately, any problems from cars that had been stored a long time,
what were the main problems encountered.

First hand or second hand, anything you're aware of at startup and early
on.

If it's a complicated procedure run it through the list for alternate
suggestions, if it's simply your version of how it should be done or you
don't want to put it through the list, send it to me directly.

Need a quick flurry of input and we'll get it launched.

Thanks, Les




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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:25:25 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Re: RE: mode switch hissing etc.

Please detail your console cover removal technique while it's still fresh in
your mind.

Thanks, Les

Walter wrote:

> With all due respect to Darryl T & Mike G,
>
> Mike G's method of removing the radio is really slick, but it's not for me.
> My opinion, especially for newbies, is to take the console cover off and
> move the radio bracket forward to work on the radio and the a/c controls.
> This is for several reasons:
>
> 1) The center air vents are rather fragile.  Without reaching behind the
> dash to release the clips, I would be worried about breaking the plastic.
> In order to get a hand in there, you are going to need to remove the console
> cover.
>
> 2) The vinyl boots on the center air vents collapse too easily.  There was
> no way I could get mine back together properly without access from the top.
> I think some D's are missing these boots because some mechanics didn't have
> the patience to fit them back without removing the console.
>
> 3) I admit that I have very large hands, and my hands were too big to reach
> behind the console to access the mode switch.  I had to move the bracket
> forward to have enough room to work.
>
> On a similar subject, I have read posts about how many people like to remove
> a seat to work under the dash.  To me, this would be a total waste of time.
> I have no trouble slithering under there with the seats in place while other
> people wouldn't even consider it.  Yet on the other hand, I wouldn't think
> of working behind the radio bracket without first removing the console cover
> and at least loosening the radio bracket.
>
> Probably the best advice is to disturb as little as you can get away with.
> And I'm sure that it helps to have small hands.
>
> Walt    Tampa, FL
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:22:42 EST
From: paulf52093_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: lancia + uploading files...

As I've owned both a DMC-12 (1982 model, owned since new) and a Lancia 
Montecarlo ... all one word (or more accurately in my case the U.S. version, 
the Scorpion; bought new in 1977 and later sold to a friend who still has it) 
I feel I can comment on the similarities and differences between the two.  
Yes, both had the same general shape, but there were lots of differences.  
The D is stainless; the Lancia conventional steel-and-paint; the D has 
gullwings; the Lancia had a very wide folding ragtop (more like a canvas 
moonroof), but the windows and door frame remained in place; the D has a 
reasonably sized engine, the Lancia had a rejected Fiat 4-cylinder motor; and 
... perhaps the biggest difference:  the Delorean refuses to rust, while the 
Lancia rapidly turned to reddish powder.  (Although it may be that MY Lancia 
was built on a Friday in Turin!)

Still, the "flavor" of the two is similar ... feeling close to the road, 
feeling the road in the seat of your pants, and enjoying the stares of people 
who have never seen one of whichever vehicle is in question.

Both are thoroughly enjoyable to drive ... it's a shame that Fiat ruined a 
company that had produced a proud string of championship cars (including the 
Stratos with a Ferrari Dino V-6 engine, of which only a handful -- 4, I 
believe, one of which I've seen and driven -- ever made it to the U.S.).  And 
it's a shame that the DeLorean fell on evil times.  But such is the lot of 
those of us who like cars that resemble the Lancia Scorpion and the DeLorean. 
Perhaps someday we'll have a new automobile to drool over!

By the way, those front fascias were alike ... both in plastic that tended to 
ripple and discolor with age.

Glad to provide some additional details.

Paul Feine
# 10944



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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:35:48 -0600
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN Uploading Files

Due to some minor difficulties with placing of inappropriate material in the
files, I've "locked" them. If you wish to post something there, write me at
the moderator address. I'll unlock the posting ability for short period of
time, and then close it again. It's best if you let me know when you're
done. I'm not nuts about this either, but that's how it goes.

Also - the "files" area (often referred to by its old name "the vault") is
getting kind of full, so I've started deleting the oldest material. If you
have something there that should be posted forever, let me know and I'll
move it to the main www.dmcnews.com web page. I'd also appreciate it if you
reduce the quality of your posted images so they aren't so big. 30kb for a
picture is about right, 300kb is overkill.

Thanks,

Dave Swingle




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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:08:51 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Re: A letter of thanks and a little more

This is going to require group input, likely a step at a time.  Mine is don't
replace the battery and then the alternator, charge the battery first and see
if the alternator is working, if not then consider another alternator.
Charge the battery fully, see if it holds a charge for a couple of days.  If
not, most batteries are dated by month and year, see how old yours is,  if
it's around 3 years or so might just get a new one for that reason.  If you
don't need it now you'll need it soon.  If the battery seems like it should
have some virtue but is not holding well for a couple of days, disconnect the
closest battery cable and leave it off for a couple of days then see if it
acts like it should when you replace the cable.  If it does, you have drain
while the battery is off and that's another story, come back to the list for
the answer to that one.

Les

Michael Pike wrote:
> Secondly.... after starting the car and backing it out
> for a nice 200 mile drive (now that i can see how much
> gas i have), i happened to glance over at my battery
> meter.. it was almost to 0.... like the alternator
> wasnt working..... it was fine before... i am
> wondering if maybe i screwed something up putting the
> tankzilla in????  When the needle goes down to the
> bottom like that, does it mean the battery, or, worse,
> i need to get an alternator????  I am going to
> disconnect the tanzilla tommorow and see if that
> helps.. if it does maybe its grounding somewhere, if
> not... i guess i'll buy the battery and if that doesnt
> work, head for the alternator...





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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:24:06 -0800
From: "Wright, Ryan (LW)" <Ryan.Wright_at_dml_lambweston.com>
Subject: RE: Hello list

Yes; please!! I am currently a non-owner, but am going to purchase my very
own Delorean sometime this year. Something like this would help me
immensely! Good things to include:

- All sorts of info on bringing a car out of storage (most D's I've come
across have been stored and I have no idea what I'd need to do in order to
make it a reliable daily driver).
- List of typical problems, procedure to identify & fix them and approximate
cost & time for each.

Also, a detailed "what to look for when purchasing" section would be very
helpful. When I buy a car, I like to look under the hood and check
everything out. With a Delorean, I really don't know what I'd be looking
for!

As for names: I like "So you bought a Delorean, now what?"

Unfortunately, I can't help with content, but if you need someone to
organize the project & compile the information I'd be happy to volunteer. We
can start now by throwing out ideas on topics, and once we have enough
topics, present them to the list. Then, the folks who are most knowledgable
here can pick a topic and fill out a template with details about how to
identify the problem, fix it, costs, etc. If a central web site to host and
maintain this FAQ is not available, I'd be happy to provide one.

- Ryan Wright, MCP (ryan.wright_at_dml_lambweston.com)
- Web Operations Analyst
- Lamb-Weston, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Huckins [mailto:jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:11 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Hello list

I'm lobbying for helping the next guys, a section called "Start up
facts" or "First facts" or something along those lines.  FAQ doesn't get
it, that only told me what grade of gasoline to use.



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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:57:51
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Radio wiring - Need more help!


John's radio diagram is great BUT I have more problems:
What do you do when the radio wiring isn't there... the wires going to the 
car connector which in turn connects to the Craig connector.

My question, where are the wires suppose to come from, from behind the 
center console? I need to hook up new wires. I have the speaker wires and 
antenna, but am missing the original +12V wire together with the +12V 
ignition wire... I think they are supposed to be red and orange 
respectively. Please help!

Mr. Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

VIN # 06759

>From: mrvideosawyer_at_dml_netscape.net
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DML] Radio wiring
>Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:50:48 -0500
>
>Group,
>If you are going to replace your radio the first project you are going to 
>have to do is figure wire color coding out.  I gave John Hervey a call at 
>specialTauto and this guy said OK here it is.  Check Johns webb page out, 
>he has drawn in a radio diagram with proper color coding for craig radio.  
>The tricky part was to figure out the common wires, easy when radio is out.
>
>The new radio sounds sooooooooooooo much better.  I'm giddy as a school 
>boy.  Thanks John.  Hummmm maybe I should change the speakers too, enough 
>for one weekend.
>
>Ohhh by the way thanks goes to Darryl at Specialty Automotive he talked me 
>through the AC mode switch replacement/rebuild.
>
>Thanks, Jim
>4149 "ELMO"
>
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:38:06 -0000
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Fuel Pump Check Valve.

   Pardon My ignorance when it comes to fuel systems, but is it 
possible to service just the check valve on the fuel pump? Or replace 
the fuel pump altogether. My car is hard to hot start, yet I have a 
new accumulator in it, so I think it is losing fuel pressure out of 
the check valve. Any other suggestions? Thanks.
-Jay




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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:04:50 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump Check Valve.

There was a change in fuel pump design JUST for this reason.  All 1981 
cars came with a fuel pump with at built in check valve.  To my 
knoledge this is not serviceable.  However, as of the '82 models and 
later, a newer fuel pump was used which had an external check valve.  
Many of the 81s now have the newer style put in them, but ones still 
with an original pump most likely will not.  If your pump is the newer 
style, (which can be determined by a "dome" nut on top of the banjo 
fitting for the fuel line, as apposed to a flat one) you should be 
able to get a new from from a DeLorean or bosch supplier.  (Dont know 
for sure though, since they come with the fuel pump, and I haven't 
seen them listed separately.  I can't imagine they wouldn't be 
availible though.)  If you have the old style pump, you probably 
should just get a new from from a DeLorean supplier, and check the 
condition of the inside of your tank while your at it.  Good Luck.

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., badgeman46_at_dml_h... wrote:
>    Pardon My ignorance when it comes to fuel systems, but is it 
> possible to service just the check valve on the fuel pump? Or 
replace 
> the fuel pump altogether. My car is hard to hot start, yet I have a 
> new accumulator in it, so I think it is losing fuel pressure out of 
> the check valve. Any other suggestions? Thanks.
> -Jay




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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:42:49 EST
From: azb888_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: PLANING FOR A DELOREAN


Hey everybody,

    I may soon be getting a DeLorean! HOPEFULLY. I need some help.  First 
does anybody know of a car CD player that plays burned CD's (CD R's and 
RW's).  Next I would jus like to have some tips on like cosmetics for the 
outside of the car.  Some things like the DMC hubcaps from DMC in Houston or 
others.  

I would really appreciate help with the CD player question.

THANKS \

Ali



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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:57:11 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: HELP!!!!!!!!!

I called rob grady on this one earlier tonight, but I was a little
overwhelmed (and cold) so I don't think I gave him the best info (sorry Rob!
I will call you again tomorrow)  In the mean time...if anyone else can
help...or offer ideas...

I was driving home (1 hour commute) and the last 5 minutes, I noticed that
if I took a sharp (or somewhat sharp) right turn, I could hear a rubbing
sound (like a fan blade scraping something, or the a tire rubbing on the
body)  It came from the front right side of the car (my first thought was
the tire) but I just drove again, and had the same thing, but noticed I had
the heater on with the blower set to "1".  If I turned it off while turning
or set it higher, the rubbing sound went away.  Is the blower fan for the
heat located in the front right side of the car?  Is this what I am hearing?
When I shut it off, it slowly went away, when I cranked it to "2" or "3" it
went away and I could hear the fan with its normal sound.

More importantly.....The car also started to spew coolant when I first got
home.  The temp gauge never went into the red (or over 220) from what I
know.  (I panicked and turned the car off and manually rolled it out of my
garage to avoid a mess)  Over all I lost about 10oz of coolant.  I called
Rob Grady, and he told me that I have to bleed the system.  I am not at all
mechanically inclined, so he told me to have someone help me.  Now that I
drove it again, I checked the coolant expansion tank (when cold) and it was
3/4 filled.  Do I need to add coolant?  Do I need to still bleed it?  I ran
it for 20 minutes and the temp stayed fine (not sure if the fans came on or
not).

I was panicking at first thinking a hose burst, or something worse, but I
did finally realized that the coolant came from the hole on the top where
the cap is.  (again...sorry Rob!  I did not know that hose was SUPPOSED to
do that.  And I did not realized that was where the coolant came from)

Please  respond tonight if you can...so I get a little piece of mind before
I go to bed.  I have had the car blues...new DMC cost me mega bucks, then
the head gasket blew on my Intrepid!  I am going SOOOO broke!  :)




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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:26:14 -0600
From: "sk1pper" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>
Subject: Re: A letter of thanks and a little more

    A sure way of testing the alternator is to start the car then remove one of the battery leads (preferbally the positive), then test the pos and neg for 12-17vDC. This will tell you if the alternator is producing electricity. I had to change my alternator and all was ok partly due to the old motorolla only producing 68vDC and the old rusted nuts causing resistance shorting out the charge. If you need to change the alternator, I have a list of part numbers that will get you a straight replacement from your local parts store, OR if you are like me, more power is always the way to go. I will have a new web page up in about 2-3 days _at_dml_ www.sk1pper.com that has pic of mine and how i put a 140a alternator on.

    Let me know if you need any more info or if this even helps ...


    sk1pper landry
    
> 
> Secondly.... after starting the car and backing it out
> for a nice 200 mile drive (now that i can see how much
> gas i have), i happened to glance over at my battery
> meter.. it was almost to 0.... like the alternator
> wasnt working..... it was fine before... i am
> wondering if maybe i screwed something up putting the
> tankzilla in????  When the needle goes down to the
> bottom like that, does it mean the battery, or, worse,
> i need to get an alternator????  I am going to
> disconnect the tanzilla tommorow and see if that
> helps.. if it does maybe its grounding somewhere, if
> not... i guess i'll buy the battery and if that doesnt
> work, head for the alternator




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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:15:36 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: PLANING FOR A DELOREAN

most car radios will play CD-R discs.  CD-RW is a different story.  I do not
know of any that do that.

-----Original Message-----
From: azb888_at_dml_cs.com [mailto:azb888_at_dml_cs.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:43 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] PLANING FOR A DELOREAN



Hey everybody,

    I may soon be getting a DeLorean! HOPEFULLY. I need some help.  First
does anybody know of a car CD player that plays burned CD's (CD R's and
RW's).  Next I would jus like to have some tips on like cosmetics for the
outside of the car.  Some things like the DMC hubcaps from DMC in Houston or
others.

I would really appreciate help with the CD player question.

THANKS \

Ali


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