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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 495
Date: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:29 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: ANNOUNCEMENT DMCNews and DMCTech
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

2. RE: British Car Day South
From: "Doc" <doctor280_at_dml_triad.rr.com>

3. Re: Charging Battery Bubbling Noise
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

4. RE: manual trans HP
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>

5. Re: Cold engine performance problem
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

6. Re: Fan speed "3" is gone..
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

7. RE: How many Deloreans?
From: "Jack Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_minalco.com>

8. Re: Charging Battery Bubbling Noise
From: Jan van de wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

9. Re: GPS in a DMC?
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>

10. RE: GPS in a DMC?
From: "Wright, Ryan (LW)" <Ryan.Wright_at_dml_lambweston.com>

11. Cooling problem 2nd question
From: paulheymeson_at_dml_thefreeinternet.co.uk

12. Re: Fan speed "3" is gone.. CORRECTION
From: Jan van de wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

13. Timing plate/ distributor
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

14. Re: How many Deloreans?
From: Henry Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

15. Re: Charging Battery Bubbling Noise
From: turbodmc_at_dml_hotmail.com

16. Two-Toned Interiors...
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

17. Re: trans question
From: "sk1pper" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>

18. Re: How many Deloreans?
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

19. Spring Minnesota Meet
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

20. RE: GPS in a DMC?
From: "FARIS ASMAR" <farisasmar_at_dml_hotmail.com>

21. Re: How many Deloreans?
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

22. Re: trans question
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

23. Re: Cooling problem 2nd question
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

24. Re: Ground effects...
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

25. Re: How many Deloreans?
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:34:57 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT DMCNews and DMCTech

As it is right now, the DMCTech site is still young, but does show 
some potential, along with a few questions. However, I am more then 
just a bit concerned about one thing: copyright. The rules of the 
list for the DML do not mention copyright anywhere within. However, 
the rules for the DMCTech list state the following:

Copyright policy:  This site is copyrighted  by the moderator, Wayne 
A. Ernst.  Any subscriber may use the information contained herein 
for their own personal use, but it may not be reproduced without 
written permission.  Contributors retain the right to use their own 
material in any way, but also grant to DMCTech the right to reproduce 
or distribute it in any way, shape or form, with or without credit, 
free or or for a fee, and without remunertion.

Will this now apply to the DML as well? I don't mean to be a pain or 
anything, but I do NOT wish to have someone profit off of my hard 
work and time. Especially if my knowlege is used to write a manual or 
book that someone else will profit off of. What I do contribute to 
the DML I would rather have freely distributed for no charge except 
for the distribution costs while maintaining proper credit for 
myself. I realize that I do not speak for others, but I would also 
like thier opinions as well on this subject matter. 

Open source = open knowlege.
FreeBSD/FreeDMC!

-Robert
vin 6585




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:10:55 -0400
From: "Doc" <doctor280_at_dml_triad.rr.com>
Subject: RE: British Car Day South

As I said before we had six Deloreans last year and I have managed to talk
the officials into giving us our own class. That is if we get six car to
preregister by April 22, 2001. I know that we have three local cars,
including mine, that are planning on going already, so we need three more.

The information is on my site
http://stainlesssteel.freeyellow.com/index.html

Please let me know if you are planning on attending.
Robert Starling
Vin#05252




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 03:11:59 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Charging Battery Bubbling Noise

If you were charging a "sealed" battery (one that you can't open the 
caps to the cells) and you heard it "bubbling" you were probably 
overcharging it. The best way to charge a battery is long and slow. 
Never let it get hot while charging. 8 hours on a high rate of charge 
was probably too much. Be very careful to never charge a battery that 
has been frozen, some of the plates may have shorted together and in 
extreme cases they have been known to explode! If you have the time 
hook to a trickle charger and check daily till fully charged. Load 
test to measure the amp-hour capacity of the battery. If it is less 
than 80% of listed capacity consider replacemant. You should always 
remove from car while charging. Never smoke or use open flame near a 
charging battery, it is giving off hydrogen gas.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., theshovel1224_at_dml_y... wrote:
> Had my battery on the charger for about 8 hours today.  When I
> took it off the charger, I heard a bubbling sound coming from
> the inside of the battery.  Just wondering, does a charging battery
> normally make a bubbling sound after awhile?
> 
> John Yeoman




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 20:23:52 -0700
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>
Subject: RE: manual trans HP

Skipper asked -
> Does anyone know how much HP a manual can safely handle?

My estimated HP is 300 (which may be a little optimistic) and last year,
accelerating "rapidly" in 3rd on a freeway onramp, I had a sudden
transmission failure.  Suspecting a twisted-off input shaft, I was close -
there is a splined coupler that mates the input shaft to the mainshaft.  It
is a flimsy piece with large spaces between sets of splines, and made of
soft metal.  I had a new one made which is bulletproof, but also must
consider that maybe this piece was made that way for a reason - think
"fuse".  Anyway, its working great now.  But I still don't recommend
burnouts....

-- 
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
McCleary, WA
 




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 03:23:15 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Cold engine performance problem

To adjust the fuel mixture you MUST have an emission analyzer. Any 
garage that has one can adjust the car. For the full procedure refer 
to workshop manual D:04:01-:03. By a literal interpetation of the law 
you are really not supposed to touch the adjustment without the proper 
training and certifacation hence the reason for the "tamperproof" 
plug. If you bring the car in ready to do it shouldn't cost too much 
although I know some shops that say anyone on the analyzer has to 
cover their cost so they charge out at about $75/hour but you only 
need about 15 minuets. Make sure you plan an appointment in advance 
and come in with the car warmed up.(Some shops keep their analyzer off 
until they need it and it takes some models as long as 15 min just to 
warm up and then they have to be calibrated!)
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Ed Garbade" <garbadee_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> Thanks to John and David (advice below) I fixed this problem.  Put 
plugs,
> rotor, dist. cap, plug wires, and O2 sensor.  Runs like a new car.
> 
> Can anyone pass along info on how to adjust the airflow mixture?
> 
> Ed
> 10541
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----





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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 03:45:20 -0000
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Fan speed "3" is gone..

Jan is correct, I overlooked they are in series. Relay's may click 
like they are working but not. You may try swaping them out.4th speed 
for third speed. Then see what happens to the fan. you may only need 
to clean the contacts. Be sure to check for loose wires or not 
connected good.
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com







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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:14:43 -0400
From: "Jack Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_minalco.com>
Subject: RE: How many Deloreans?

I threw a few pictures I took of the Gold DMC in Reno, Nevada.  The link is

www.sacketmansion.com/gold-dmc


Jack & Virginia Stiefel
'81 DeLorean Vin 03461 Aug.1981 NYS Lic:1981 DMC
'97 Red BMW Z3 Convertible 6 cyl, not the baby 4
'99 Ford Expedition 4x4 Eddie Bauer Edition
'01 Black PT Cruiser Limited w/Flames
Visit us at www.sacketmansion.com



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:37:51 GMT
From: Jan van de wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Re: Charging Battery Bubbling Noise

John Yeoman wrote:
 
> Had my battery on the charger for about 8 hours today.  When I
> took it off the charger, I heard a bubbling sound coming from
> the inside of the battery.  Just wondering, does a charging battery
> normally make a bubbling sound after awhile?

In a Lead-Acid battery gas is formed when charging the battery,
this is normal. The more amps you push in the more bubbling...

BE VERY CAREFULL when you still hear this bubbling:
these fumes are not good for your health and are flammable.
No smoking near a charging battery and look out for sparks;
disconnect power to the charger first, THEN disconnect the
wires from the battery. This way there is the lest chance of sparks.

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

Check out the DeLorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 08:43:03 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy_at_dml_dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: GPS in a DMC?

Looks like a Garmin portable..  You can put this in any car, it just sticks to
the dash.

Kevin Abato wrote:
> 
> Check this out!
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=575687354&
> r=0&t=0
> look at the "super sized" picture of the steering wheel and dash....is that
> a GPS of some kind on the top of the binnacle?



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:41:11 -0700
From: "Wright, Ryan (LW)" <Ryan.Wright_at_dml_lambweston.com>
Subject: RE: GPS in a DMC?

I've been drooling over that Delorean all weekend. I would have bid on it,
but I can't be 100% certain that I'll have the money in a couple of weeks
when it comes time to pay. Looks like a real gem. For those of you who
didn't check out the link, this was a ~38K mile car, and the owner used to
be a professional Delorean mechanic. Car looked immaculate all around. He
had yellow neon under the car below the doors, and another small neon bar in
the rear window (inside the car). Full custom stereo system with a nice
subwoofer, and a blue neon amp on the shelf behind the seats. The entire
system (including the neon) was modular and could be pulled out, leaving no
bolt holes or other damage on the vehicle if you wanted to return it to
stock.

All in all, I came real close to buying it, except for the little problem
that I'm not sure how I'd pay for it just yet. :)

The high bidder came within a few hundred bucks of the guy's reserve price,
so my guess is they made a deal offline and it's sold. Does anyone know who
bought it?

- Ryan Wright, MCP (ryan.wright_at_dml_lambweston.com)
- Web Operations Analyst
- Lamb-Weston, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Abato [mailto:delorean_at_dml_abato.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Dmcnewsyahoo (E-mail)
Subject: [DML] GPS in a DMC?




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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:07:46 -0000
From: paulheymeson_at_dml_thefreeinternet.co.uk
Subject: Cooling problem 2nd question

Hello list,

After trying 3 switches and testing everything else as my last post 
explained.
I proceded to put my hands on all the pipes to see if they were 
getting hot enough,sure enough they were nearly burning my fingers.
So I was just wondering as my fans work fine if I join the 2 wires on 
the otterstat,does it make any difference which way round the wires 
plug on the switch.
Probably doesn't but I thought I would ask anyway.

Cheers.
Paul UK.It's a mystery,but if all else fails I guess its bleed or 
thermostat?




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:29:52 GMT
From: Jan van de wouw <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Re: Fan speed "3" is gone.. CORRECTION

I wrote:

> First thing I would check is if the contacts are all in the sockets, not
> pushed down, when that's the case check if you get any power to the 
> sockets; there should be +12V at 2 of the contacts, ground on one,
> one ground THROUGH THE MOTOR AND RESISTOR #3 and one contact isn't used.
[snip: look at my original post for the diagram]
> 1 and 2 should have +12V on them, 5 is ground, 3 isn't used and 4 goes
> to the motor through the last resistor. 

What I forgot to mention is that the power to 1 comes from the speedswitch, so it is only
there with the speed set to "3", 1 has +12V with the ignition on, the rest is permanent...

Sorry for the confusion.

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

Check out the DeLorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:23:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Timing plate/ distributor

I just 'fixed' my distributor, now my car runs 0% of the time, instead of
the previous 5%.  I was going to try to check on the timing, but since the
car won't run or idle, this is quite difficult.  Is there a setting/location
of the distributor where it should be close enough to run?

Also- my timing plate- I highly suspect- is not stock.  Is there any chance
someone could take a picture of the timing plate and post it/send it to me? 
I'm curious about where 0 (TDC) is located.  The plate on mine is very large
and the '0' seems a little further left than I would have expected.  I may
have to realign the timing plate- anyone have any pointers for finding TDC
for cylinder 1?

Jim






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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:25:10 -0700
From: Henry Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: How many Deloreans?

Both Close, but no cigar.

The 1981 American Express Christmas Catalog offered DeLoreans, electroplated
with 24kt gold at $85,000 each. This was to be a limited edition of no more
than 100 cars.  Two were actually built:  VIN 4300 and VIN 4301.  The first,
(VIN 4300) is on display at the The National Automobile Museum (Harrah
Automobile Foundation) in Reno, NV.  The second (VIN 4301) is on display in a
locked glass showcase in the lobby of the Snyder National Bank, Snyder, TX.

There is at least one additional Gold Plated DeLorean - the last car
assembled.  This car, VIN 20105, is a 1983 model.  The source of the gold
plated panels is in question.  Some state that the panels were plated at the
same time as the other two cars were built and were held in stock in case one
of the cars needed repair.  Others state that they were gold plated just to
mark the last car produced.

more info at http://delorean-owners.org/events/museums.html

Hank Breer


William T Wilson wrote:

> <snip>
> There are also three (or possibly four) gold-plated cars which are the
> absolute last cars produced,all of which are in museums or collections.
> One was in a bank in Las Vegas but I don't know if it's still on
> display or not, another was in a car museum in I believe Texas,
> and the third is/was in a private collection somewhere on the east
> coast.
> <snip>

Shannon Yocom wrote:

> <snip>
> The last one is 24K Gold Plated as a part of the credit card
> promotion years ago.
> <snip>






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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:47:45 -0000
From: turbodmc_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Charging Battery Bubbling Noise

That is not uncommon. When you charge a lead acid battery you form 
hydrogen and oxygen (that's what causes them to explode) it bubbles 
off the plates in the acid solution and that's what you heard. The 
faster the charge rate (more current) the more bubbles you produce, I 
would guess that you were charging it at a rate of 5 amps or more. 

Regards,

Mike D.




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., theshovel1224_at_dml_y... wrote:
> Had my battery on the charger for about 8 hours today.  When I
> took it off the charger, I heard a bubbling sound coming from
> the inside of the battery.  Just wondering, does a charging battery
> normally make a bubbling sound after awhile?
> 
> John Yeoman




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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:35:51 EDT
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Two-Toned Interiors...

    

    This interior color scheme is very attractive. The contrast between the 
silver carpets and black seats, dash, console, door trim panels, etc., 
naturally blends together the exteriors black and silver with the interior. 
It is very eye catching.
    The carpeting material in the 1983 cars is a different pile or texture 
than the 1981 vehicles. 

    In addition, Rob Grady won the first place trophy with his personal DMC 
in the DeLorean Owners Association 1994 Williamsburg Virginia Concourse. His 
1983 DeLorean has the aforementioned silver and black interior. (DeLorean 
World magazine Volume 11 Num. 3, summer 1994.)

    Based on the information provided to me via final assembly, there were no 
factory cars produced with gray seats & black interior, or black seats with 
gray interior. Additionally, there were no gray dashboards with black 
binnacle, and visa versa.

Sincerely,
Mike Pack
DOA 4743
VIN 3713



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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:47:48 -0500
From: "sk1pper" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>
Subject: Re: trans question

is the Centerforce a DeLorean model or do i have to crossreference?

----- Original Message -----
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] trans question


> On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, sk1pper wrote:
>
> > how much hp/ torque can a D's 5 manual trans safely handle?
>
........Clutch stresses on the other hand are worse in higher
> gears.  Be sure to get a heavy duty clutch, there is a Centerforce model
> for the DeLorean.
>
> 



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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:49:46 EDT
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: How many Deloreans?

In a message dated 04/08/2001 10:23:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
evilmofo_at_dml_pacbell.net writes:

<< one is in the National Automobile Museum in Reno >>
This car has approx. 1,400 miles.
    The second is owned by the Mize family of Snyder Texas. Their grandfather 
was the President of Snyder bank, and purchased the car after reading the 
American Express 1980 Christmas catalogue. 
    The car was never started and wheeled in the lobby of the bank. It has a 
black leather interior. This car has zero miles.
    The third and final gold car is owned in a private car collection in 
Maryland. This car has approx. 700 miles.
    You can read more about the Gold Cars in DeLorean World magazine volume 3 
# 3 Fall 1985 & DeLorean World magazine volume 10 number 2; 1993.

Sincerely,
Mike Pack
DOA 4743
VIN 3713



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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 18:02:00 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Spring Minnesota Meet

For all who are interested, MNDMC, the Minnesota DeLorean Club, is 
having a spring meet/lunch on Saturday, May 5th.  It is going to be 
at Baker Park Reserve, in Medina Minnesota (far west Minneapolis 
metro).  Bring your own food to cook up on the grilles, I will supply 
charcol if necessary.  This is open to anyone who wishes to attend.  
More information will be availible soon.  If anyone has specific 
questions, please email me directly at ultra(at)isd.net.  Hope to see 
you there!

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960




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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:38:26 -0400
From: "FARIS ASMAR" <farisasmar_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: GPS in a DMC?

I don't think it's sold. The owner reposted it on eBay with no reserve. 
Here's the URL to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=578008216
_____________________________________
>
>I've been drooling over that Delorean all weekend. 



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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:01:42 -0500
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: How many Deloreans?

According to Lief Montin, the National parts manager for the original
DeLorean Motor Company, the last gold car was plated with panels kept on
hand at the request of American Express in case one of the two cars needed
repair. Same for why the last car also has a tan interior. They were spares,
also.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas 

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com

> From: Henry Breer <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
> Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:25:10 -0700
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] How many Deloreans?
> 
> The source of the gold
> plated panels is in question.  Some state that the panels were plated at the
> same time as the other two cars were built and were held in stock in case one
> of the cars needed repair.  Others state that they were gold plated just to
> mark the last car produced.




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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:55:44 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: trans question

No, the clutches made by Centerforce are specificly for the DeLorean. 
I say clutches because there are 2 seperate models. The regular 
Centerforce I, and the Dual Friction. Your be best is to order the 
Center Force kit from either DMCJoe or PJ Grady. That way you can get 
the complete kit with the pilot bearing, throw out bearing, and the 
clutch fork grease seal all in one shot.

Minus the adjustable clutch link and a new flywheel, my entire clutch 
system is brandnew. So for me to make a viable comparison to my old 
OEM clutch is a bit difficult since it had defective parts. But if 
you car is only going to see occasional, light use, the OEM should be 
fine. For daily driving, I would use the Centerforce first. The CF 
clutch is only $40 more then the OEM, and it provides 30% more 
gripping power. When hitting hills, headwinds (not often in a 
DeLorean!), or starting out, I can feel a definate difference. The 
stiff feel of the pedal is still the same, but it does grip a bit 
quicker.

Dual friction is only for heavily modified vehicles. CF's website 
states that it has 90% more gripping power than a stock clutch, but 
with a lighter feel. I have no idea what so ever as to this clutch's 
performance. I don't even know if it would be warranted on a dual 
turbo, or upgraded engine from DMC Houston. But it would be 
interesting to see how one feels...

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "sk1pper" <sk1pper_at_dml_i...> wrote:
> is the Centerforce a DeLorean model or do i have to crossreference?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_s...>
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_y...>
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 10:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [DML] trans question
> 
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, sk1pper wrote:
> >
> > > how much hp/ torque can a D's 5 manual trans safely handle?
> >
> ........Clutch stresses on the other hand are worse in higher
> > gears.  Be sure to get a heavy duty clutch, there is a 
Centerforce model
> > for the DeLorean.
> >
> >




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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 22:23:22 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Cooling problem 2nd question

It doesn't make any difference how the wires are connected to the 
switch. Test the switch. Both terminals should not have any connection 
to the case and should have continuity to each other at the preset 
temperature. (it should say on the case). Immerse in water and heat 
the water and watch the thermometer with a meter connected to the 
terminals. Near the prescribed temp the switch should show continuty.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., paulheymeson_at_dml_t... wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> After trying 3 switches and testing everything else as my last post 
> explained.
> I proceded to put my hands on all the pipes to see if they were 
> getting hot enough,sure enough they were nearly burning my fingers.
> So I was just wondering as my fans work fine if I join the 2 wires 
on 
> 




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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:24:27 -1000
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ground effects...

I just ordered the ground effects package for my car from PJ Grady. Robert, 
if you are sill looking, they can get the kit for you too. (800)350-7429 is 
the number. I'm having them drill the holes and insert the little plastic 
clips too so I can secure the side and rear pieces on without drilling any 
holes into my car. PJ Grady has some sort of "jig" so they can drill the 
holes correctly and accurately. The pieces are gonna hook up just like the 
stock rocker panels that I'm removing. I can't wait to get mine!!!

---Dan



From:  Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude_at_dml_j...>
Date:  Fri Apr 6, 2001 8:42pm
Subject:  Of Ground Effects & Two-Toned Interiors...

......also had some cool ground effects on it.
The side skirts, black,  had "DeLorean" in silver, and the front "thing"
looked as if it were bolted onto the stock "thing"  (Note: "Thing" refers
to
the scrub bar under the bumper, I do not know the correct name, so please

fill me in, thanks.) :  )
  2.The question is, WHO makes these effects?  They are SO tight!



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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:50:28 -0000
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: How many Deloreans?

I don't mean to be rude, but:
Here is another case of the situation where if people would
bother to check in the archives because I covered this about
a month ago in post #15741

John Yeoman





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