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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 502
Date: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:15 AM

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There are 23 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Talk about ignorane! look at what I found!
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com

2. Re: Cleaning your car using "Scotch Brite" pads
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com

3. Re: Carpet Cleaning
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

4. Re: idle problem
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

5. "Delorean" - the book
From: "Ryan Wright" <irwright_at_dml_earthlink.net>

6. Re: help! no power to fuse # 7
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

7. RE: Bay Area Bull*
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>

8. Speedo. light problems...
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

9. RE: Re: Cleaning your car using "Scotch Brite" pads
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

10. RE: "Delorean" - the book
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

11. RE: "Delorean" - the book
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_home.com>

12. Re: Door Seals
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

13. No Juice
From: "J Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_netusa1.net>

14. Re: Re: help! no power to fuse # 7
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

15. Re: Speedo. light problems...
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

16. I made my DOWNPAYMENT!!!!!!!!!!
From: Todd Koehler <delorean_stainless_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. RE: Speedo. light problems...
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

18. Re: Help! Idle problems - Microswitch - Loose wires!
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

19. Re: idle problem
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

20. Re: No Juice
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

21. Re: help! no power to fuse # 7
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

22. RE: Re: Help! Idle problems - Micro switch - Loose wires!
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

23. RE: Re: help! no power to fuse # 7
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 01:05:40 -0000
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Talk about ignorane! look at what I found!

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: It's unfortunate to see the kinds of misinfomration that often is associated with our cars. I suggest that constructive ways of improving the availability of accurate information is the best approach to this.]

   Hey! Check this webpage out! If you want to see pure and humorous 
ignorace at work, please read towards the bottom of this one. 
Apparently this guy thinks the car is made of aluminum!

http://www.tychocity.com/journal/19991008.html


-Jay




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:51:28 -0000
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Cleaning your car using "Scotch Brite" pads

   I've already spoken to Kevin, so we can all rest easy ;-) The best 
pads to use are the coarser ones. I have some pics of the 'approved' 
ones if anyone wants to compare before they go nuts re-graining. The 
finer pads will have a tendency to smoothen, rather than preserve the 
original graining, which is what makes it soooo nice! 

   I also picked up the rather expensive handle for the pads. It does 
make life a little easier.

Tyler


snip

> If you go to this link: http://www.abato.net/sbpad.jpg  you can see 
a
> picture of what I bought.  There is a floppy disk in picture for 
size
> comparison.

snip

> Kevin Abato
> Vin# 16680




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:39:48 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Carpet Cleaning

Ed,

Place several paper towels above and below the stained area and place a
weight over the toweled section for 24 hours. This process will absorb any
fluid soaked into the fibers. Follow up by applying Westley's Bleche-Wite
sprayed onto a clean wet towel. Scrub the area with a clean scrubbing brush,
use circular pattern when scrubbing, clean up with a clean damp cloth.
Repeat the process until the stain is gone.

Be sure to follow the Bleche-Wite safety precautions; this is a strong
product.

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>
Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Garbade <garbadee_at_dml_bigfoot.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:30 PM
Subject: [DML] Carpet Cleaning


> Any idea how to get brake fluid out of carpet?
>
> BTW, this is an easy way (not desireable) to ID a leaky master cylinder on
a
> manual transmission.  Possibly something for the Tech site?
>
> Ed
> 10541
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:12:14 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: idle problem

Idle quality can usually be reduced to one or a combination of the 
following problems:
An imbalance in the ignition system ie: a bad wire or spark plug
A vacuum leak or a malfuntioning vacuum valve
A misfiring, leaky, dirty fuel injecter
Someone trying to set idle with the 3 brass adjusting screws.(They are 
ALL supposed to be LIGHTLY seated closed)
A problem with the idle micro switch.
In general to improve idle quality if the motor hasn't been tuned up 
in a long time it might be overdue for one. On our cars, most of which 
don't accumulate significant mileage time ages components so even if 
you only have 5000 miles since your last tuneup how many years has it 
been? Also how old is the gas? Stale gas makes the motor stumble, 
hesitate, backfire, hard cold start. Use up the tank as far as you can 
and fill with fresh 91 octane and see if that makes any difference. If 
you still have trouble then you might have to do a compression test 
and valve adjustment. If all of the cylinders are not within 5% of 
each other you cannot get a smooth idle.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., klaus.steiner_at_dml_t... wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Following problem occurs:
> My engine idles between 500 an 1000 rpm when warm, idle speed
> microswitch works. When I press the full throttle enrichment 
microswitch
> the frequency valve changes noise and the engine idles at 1000 rpm. 
Any
> suggestions?  
> 
> Klaus Steiner
> #05980 Germany
> www.steinerklaus.de




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 03:00:57 -0700
From: "Ryan Wright" <irwright_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: "Delorean" - the book

I just finished reading "Delorean". My wife saw it at the library and
brought it home for me Thursday night. I read a few chapters that night, and
decided to read a few more tonight. I couldn't put it down; it's almost
3:00am, and I've finished the book.

I don't know what to say; I'm completely in shock. There has always been an
understanding in my mind that government corruption exists, but I am
absolutely shocked at what I just read. Right now, I would do anything for
John DeLorean. For anyone to have to go through what he went through.... I
just can't imagine it.

Not so many weeks ago, a link was posted to an EBay auction of a poster. The
poster was of a DeLorean with a big red "COKE" bumper sticker. If I recall
correctly, there was some indication that a few of us found this to be
humorous. I pray that I NEVER, EVER have to see anything like that on this
list again. For someone to find humor in that is appalling and disgusting,
and I use those words for lack of an appropriate 4 lettered replacement.

For those of you who have yet to read this book, I highly encourage you to
do so immediately. Pick up a copy at your local library, or buy one online.
There are a couple on EBay right now that can be had for around $10. I am
going to add this one to my permanent collection as a grim reminder of
exactly how our world works.

- Ryan Wright (irwright_at_dml_earthlink.net) (Tri-Cities, Washington State)
http://www.ryanwright.com




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:53:31 -0000
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: help! no power to fuse # 7

Andy, Why are you having to jump the rpm relay all the time. When the 
ignition is turned on the pump will run for a second then when the 
engine turnes over the pump will start up again. If it doesn't, you 
may have a bad pulse coil.If your going to keep jumping it. Then just 
swap two wires in the socket and it will stay on when ever the key is 
turned on. I agree with DMCjoe about the brown hot wires and the fuse.
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:53:57 -0700
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
Subject: RE: Bay Area Bull*

    It's really hard to find someone in Northern California that will work
on our cars and actually knows what they are doing, or are at least are
willing to learn from one of the major suppliers. The closest shop to San
Francisco that we know of is:

Ace Automotive - 3407 Adeline Street - Berkeley, CA 94703 - 501 652-2272

They take care of at least 3 DeLoreans that we know of. We also have a
couple of other shops listed in our 'Links & Resources' section of our club
website:

http://www.ncdmc.org

Most of our members do their own work or send their cars to Southern
California for repairs.

Ken

=======================================================
Ken Montgomery	Sacramento, CA  VIN #10911  'OUTTIME'
http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean/delorean01.htm
mailto:kenm_at_dml_csus.edu
President, Northern California DeLorean Motor Club
http://www.ncdmc.org
Keeper of the International DeLorean Owners Directory
http://www.dmcnews.com  mailto:directory_at_dml_dmcnews.com
=======================================================


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Williams [mailto:delorean_at_dml_framezero.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 11:37 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Bay Area Bull*
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I simply cannot beliieve my bad luck when it comes to cars 
> and the shops
> that fix them. I've got a relatively small problem with my 
> car right now.
> My brakes squeal, and there is a clicking sound coming from 
> the left rear
> wheel. I took the car to my local guy that I've used a couple times
> before. I gave him numbers for Rob Grady and for DMC Houston 
> for parts.
> 
> Well, he called me back this morning with a quote. It seems 
> that I need my
> front rotors turned, rear rotors replaced, pads all around, and the
> anti-rattle spring set for the rear (probably some 
> anti-squeal shims as
> well). He quoted me 680 dollars for the parts and 460 dollars for the
> labor. This sounds outrageous to me. He said that he marks 
> the parts up
> 10%, but by my calculations, he's marking them up 300%.
> 
> And to top it off - when they were inspecting the car earlier 
> this week,
> they broke my parking brake. I haven't worked on brakes much 
> before, but
> the ammount of work to be done doesn't seem that difficult. I'm
> considering attempting the job myself, but would much rather 
> have a shop
> do it... but not for 1200 dollars. If anyone in the San 
> Francisco bay area
> could recommend a shop to me, or if anyone can provide any 
> tips on brake
> work (specifit to the DeLorean or otherwise), it would be 
> much appreciated
> (and worth 1200 bucks!)
> 
> -Christian
> #3452
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:12:34 EDT
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: Speedo. light problems...

Ever since I bought my D about 6 months ago, I noticed that the
speedometer consol's light seemed strangely dim.  I haven't asked
or done anything about it since, but the other day while taking my
D out at night, I noticed that the light was suddenly BRIGHT after
starting the car up.  It stayed that way (which I thought was cool,
but strange) for about 10-15 minutes, then it went dim again.

Do I have some sort of short somewhere?  Did I move a nob to
adjust the brightness of the consol light?  What is going on here?

As usual, thank you for your guy's great help in advance,

Richard
 



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:24:05 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Cleaning your car using "Scotch Brite" pads

Yes...And again thank you Tyler!

And thanks to EVERYONE here on the list!  Though I have only been an owner
for 1 month, and a member of the DML for 2 months, I have found this to be a
highly useful and interesting forum!  I am glad it was available to me!

THANK YOU EVERYONE!  I only hope that one day I can give back as much as I
am getting from you all now.

P.S.  I took my car out the past two days, and WOW!  My wife and I have
thoroughly enjoyed driving around in the beautiful weather!  So many people
have looked at the car, and I am so happy to talk to them and show the car
to them.

I have to say it again (because I feel this way, and also someone said
recently that it is not said enough on the DML)

I LOVE MY CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks everyone....HAPPY DRIVING!

Kevin Abato
VIN# 16680

-----Original Message-----
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com [mailto:graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:51 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Cleaning your car using "Scotch Brite" pads


   I've already spoken to Kevin, so we can all rest easy ;-) The best
pads to use are the coarser ones. I have some pics of the 'approved'
ones if anyone wants to compare before they go nuts re-graining. The
finer pads will have a tendency to smoothen, rather than preserve the
original graining, which is what makes it soooo nice!

   I also picked up the rather expensive handle for the pads. It does
make life a little easier.

Tyler


snip

> If you go to this link: http://www.abato.net/sbpad.jpg  you can see
a
> picture of what I bought.  There is a floppy disk in picture for
size
> comparison.

snip

> Kevin Abato
> Vin# 16680



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:10:19 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: "Delorean" - the book

I have seen this book on www.half.com for about $3-5

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Wright [mailto:irwright_at_dml_earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 6:01 AM
To: 'dml'
Subject: [DML] "Delorean" - the book


I just finished reading "Delorean". My wife saw it at the library and
brought it home for me Thursday night. I read a few chapters that night, and
decided to read a few more tonight. I couldn't put it down; it's almost
3:00am, and I've finished the book.

I don't know what to say; I'm completely in shock. There has always been an
understanding in my mind that government corruption exists, but I am
absolutely shocked at what I just read. Right now, I would do anything for
John DeLorean. For anyone to have to go through what he went through.... I
just can't imagine it.

Not so many weeks ago, a link was posted to an EBay auction of a poster. The
poster was of a DeLorean with a big red "COKE" bumper sticker. If I recall
correctly, there was some indication that a few of us found this to be
humorous. I pray that I NEVER, EVER have to see anything like that on this
list again. For someone to find humor in that is appalling and disgusting,
and I use those words for lack of an appropriate 4 lettered replacement.

For those of you who have yet to read this book, I highly encourage you to
do so immediately. Pick up a copy at your local library, or buy one online.
There are a couple on EBay right now that can be had for around $10. I am
going to add this one to my permanent collection as a grim reminder of
exactly how our world works.

- Ryan Wright (irwright_at_dml_earthlink.net) (Tri-Cities, Washington State)
http://www.ryanwright.com



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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:01:53 -0500
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: RE: "Delorean" - the book

I understand where you're coming from Ryan.
I first read John's autobiography when I was 14, and I felt the same way.
How could everything that was so right go so wrong, and why did the
government have to target John for a sting. You have to remember that
at the time, Ronald Reagan had made the drug war a major priority,
and that John, because of his situation and celebrity, was an easy target
for FBI agents that were over zealous with very questionable ethics.

I have a copy of the "Coke" poster you mention, along with the Clint Clemens
print "Blizzard of the Eighties" hanging over my bed. It's unfortunate, but
most
of the posters put out after the trial in the mid-eighties only feature a
Delorean
with some lame joke about cocaine. I have the "Coke" poster rolled up in a
tube,
like most people on the list, if something has a Delorean in or on it, I end
up buying it.
I don't think people on the list found the poster humorous the way you
think.
I think it was probably meant to be in the spirit of "Oh great, another one
of those
dumb Delorean/cocaine posters from the mid eighties". Anyone that is
familiar
with John knows that he never had a single thing to do with cocaine.

I would be willing to guess about 95% of this list has already read his
book.
I was lucky enough to send my copy to John and have him sign it for me.
If you can locate his mailing address, he might do the same for you. If you
make it to the meet in Memphis in 2002, you might be able to get him to sign
it in person.
I've heard rumors he may be making an appearance.

>>I don't know what to say; I'm completely in shock. There has always been
an
understanding in my mind that government corruption exists, but I am
absolutely shocked at what I just read. Right now, I would do anything for
John DeLorean. For anyone to have to go through what he went through.... I
just can't imagine it.

Not so many weeks ago, a link was posted to an EBay auction of a poster. The
poster was of a DeLorean with a big red "COKE" bumper sticker. If I recall
correctly, there was some indication that a few of us found this to be
humorous. I pray that I NEVER, EVER have to see anything like that on this
list again. For someone to find humor in that is appalling and disgusting,
and I use those words for lack of an appropriate 4 lettered replacement.

For those of you who have yet to read this book, I highly encourage you to
do so immediately. Pick up a copy at your local library, or buy one online.
There are a couple on EBay right now that can be had for around $10. I am
going to add this one to my permanent collection as a grim reminder of
exactly how our world works.>>>





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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:17:55 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Door Seals

I presume you mean at the upper-outer corner of the windshield. Next 
time you recover the headliners(!), shave about 1/4 inch off of the 
core form at the corner before you have them recovered. The 
headliners will stay cleaner there too. 

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., DBJCFAM_at_dml_a... wrote:
> My door seals always seem to crack, on the top, from opening and 
closing the 
> doors.  It almost seems like the headliner is too big, and it is 
rubbing 
> against it.  Does anybody know the fix?




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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 05:27:16 -0500
From: "J Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_netusa1.net>
Subject: No Juice

      Hello All, 
    
                 I have ran into a problem today. I went out to start the DeLorean to take it out for
a drive but when I tried to start it it turned over maybe twice and then all electrical power 
seemed to have died very suddenly. I now have no courtesy lights, no buzzer, no ignition, 
and the gauges won't budge when you turn the key. Absolutely no power at all. Heres what 
I checked: 1. Battery has full charge. 2. Cleaned up the ground wire connection that goes to 
the frame under the coolant bottle. 3. Checked all fuses. 4. Pulled the relays to make sure that
one of the contacts hadn't pushed down or something. 
                  This leads to another question. On my start inhibit relay there are 5 pins on the 
relay itself but the socket only has 4 contacts in it. The middle contact isn't there. I took 
out the whole section of sockets to see if there was a wire underneath that should go there but 
there wasn't. My wiring doesn't look to be all butchered or anything so is there supposed to 
be one there? Anyone have any ideas? Anything that I should double check?
                        Thanks in advance.........................Jason  #5903


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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:38:52 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: help! no power to fuse # 7

In a message dated 4/14/01 1:23:30 PM Central Daylight Time, dherv10_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:


> Andy, Why are you having to jump the rpm relay all the time. When the 
> ignition is turned on the pump will run for a second then when the 
> engine turnes over the pump will start up again. If it doesn't, you 
> may have a bad pulse coil.If your going to keep jumping it. Then just 
> swap two wires in the socket and it will stay on when ever the key is 
> turned on. I agree with DMCjoe about the brown hot wires and the fuse.
> John Hervey
> 

Hello John and others,

i have to jump the RPM relay to test my fuel pressure and other fuel related 
problems. my car does not run.  it will turn over and fire but it will not 
start up.  i do not have the luxury of having a car that is actually running 
while i troubleshoot my problems!!  the RPM relay is really the only way to 
go , as long as i am by myself in my garage where i can't reach the ignition 
from the fuel pump or the engine compartment.  

also, i found the problem with my fuse block.  what a stupid problem it was.  
i found that a previous owner had jumped fuse 7 out of the block on a fused 
jumper, and the fuse that was in there was a dummy just to have in there.  i 
found the fuse holder for # 7 and sure enough, it was blown! replaced it and 
things work just fine again.

i should have known it was jumped!

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:46:10 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Speedo. light problems...

On the center console, in front of your shifter/gear selector is the 
rheostat to control the brightness of the binnacle lights. Try 
rotating the knob to see if that will brighten the lights. If not, 
you might have a bad dimmer switch.

Since I always keep the lamps at their brightest, I bypassed the 
dimmer, and hard wired everything together. While the lights are not 
blinding, the are brighter, and much clearer.

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., RJRavalli_at_dml_A... wrote:
> Ever since I bought my D about 6 months ago, I noticed that the
> speedometer consol's light seemed strangely dim.  I haven't asked
> or done anything about it since, but the other day while taking my
> D out at night, I noticed that the light was suddenly BRIGHT after
> starting the car up.  It stayed that way (which I thought was cool,
> but strange) for about 10-15 minutes, then it went dim again.
> 
> Do I have some sort of short somewhere?  Did I move a nob to
> adjust the brightness of the consol light?  What is going on here?
> 
> As usual, thank you for your guy's great help in advance,
> 
> Richard




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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:17:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Todd Koehler <delorean_stainless_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: I made my DOWNPAYMENT!!!!!!!!!!

Hey everyone just want to let the whole group know
today that Friday I maild my Downpayment  for my
Delorean Vin#5386 My project car is 1/4 mine! I can't
believe it!!!

I'm bouncing off the walls special thats to the man
that made it all possible

Richard Weissensel of IL! He has my Delorean there at
his place and is allowing me to buy it in payments! in
several months I will be able to bring her home. She
is a sleeping Beauty hasn't seen the road since 1991.
I was search for a gen what I found was the Delorean
of my Dreams and a new friend in Richard! this guy is
the best! Thanks again to the group, and to the
DMCnews if it wasn't for this site I'd never of found
my baby. I found you guys in november and here in
april I'm already putting a down payment on a
Delorean. Than ky ou again guys!

And thank you Richard! This is the best guy on the
plant!

Todd Koehler
getting closer to my dream
owner of 1/4 of VIN#5386

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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:46:28 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Speedo. light problems...

Richard,
The reostate for the dash lights is mounted on the center console, next to
the clock.  Turn it clockwise to brighten, CCW to dim.

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031

-----Original Message-----
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com [mailto:RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 2:13 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Speedo. light problems...


Ever since I bought my D about 6 months ago, I noticed that the
speedometer consol's light seemed strangely dim.  I haven't asked
or done anything about it since, but the other day while taking my
D out at night, I noticed that the light was suddenly BRIGHT after
starting the car up.  It stayed that way (which I thought was cool,
but strange) for about 10-15 minutes, then it went dim again.

Do I have some sort of short somewhere?  Did I move a nob to
adjust the brightness of the consol light?  What is going on here?

As usual, thank you for your guy's great help in advance,

Richard



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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:42:33 -0000
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Help! Idle problems - Microswitch - Loose wires!

Stian, When the engine is cold, the Lambda system for gas mixture is 
on manual and sending 80/20 signal to the FV to run a certain 
mixture. When things start to heat up, the the sensors start to back 
off, then the 02 sensor takes over and sends the voltage to the 
Lambda to adjust the air/gas mixture. If the air flow is not adjusted 
correctly for the age of the 02 sensor or new 02, then the car is 
( Seeking ). Meaning the 02/lambda is looking for the right mixture. 
Thus your idle goes up and down. Adjust the air flow meter with a 3mm 
long handle allen wrench. Just do a 1/4 turn either direction when 
the engine is hot and see what happens. This should be done with a 
exhaust analyzer for the correct setting, but the manual may get you 
by.  
As far as the two wires loose on top of the engine, more than likley 
they are the wires fron the micro switch which turns the idle spped 
motor on. Black is common normally goes to the center terminal and 
black/green to the upper terminal. 
With out more specific information, there are two many wires in the 
relay compartment to speculiate on where it goes.
What Mike said about the coil is true. Coils do get weak and create 
over time a higher resistance and should be replaced ever so often.As 
I say on my web site: If you want a little pick me up, the coil can 
do it.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:57:13 -0000
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: idle problem

Klaus, As I said in an earlier post. Adjust the air flow with the 3mm 
allen wrench. This will stop it from seeking and level out the idle. 
Again: It should be done with an exhause analyzer.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com


 --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., klaus.steiner_at_dml_t... wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Following problem occurs:
> My engine idles between 500 an 1000 rpm when warm, idle speed
> microswitch works. When I press the full throttle enrichment 
microswitch
> the frequency valve changes noise and the engine idles at 1000 rpm. 
Any
> suggestions?  
> 
> Klaus Steiner
> #05980 Germany
> www.steinerklaus.de




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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:11:28 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: No Juice

Measure voltage drop across every connection till you find the one 
that is causing your problem. The battery could be the problem, I 
have seen fully charged batteries that as soon as you put a load on 
them it is like a connection inside the battery is broken. Load test 
the battery or just try jumping the car with another while you try to 
start it.Or just try another battery. There is nothing special about 
troubleshooting this problem in the electrical system in the Delorean 
as opposed to any other automobile. Don't get thrown off by the 
unusual locations of the components, it still works like any other 
car. I wouldn't touch the inhibit relay till you can keep the power up 
in the car. If the inhibit relay was the source of the problem it 
would have no effect on the gauges, courtesy lights, or buzzer.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "J Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_n...> wrote:
>       Hello All, 
>     
>                  I have ran into a problem today. I went out to 
start the DeLorean to take it out for
> a drive but when I tried to start it it turned over maybe twice and 
then all electrical power 
> seemed to have died very suddenly. I now have no courtesy lights, no 
buzzer, no ignition, 
> and the gauges won't budge when you turn the key. Absolutely no 
power at all. Heres what 





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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:24:46 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: help! no power to fuse # 7

Since you have found the source of your problem with the #7 fuse and 
it is the result of someone's previous unprofessional repair we can 
assume that you may have a similar situation in the fuel system. Take 
nothing for granted. Hoses may or may not be connected or connected 
correctly. Trace each hose to it's source and verify routing and 
condition. This may be an old problem that was never corrected and the 
car ran although not correctly. It is easy to mix up hoses on the fuel 
distributer if you are not careful so start there. In diagnosing a 
problem you have to assume many things. In your case it will be unwise 
to take anything for granted now. There is a tee connection in the 
return line, that is a good place to start tracing the return lines to 
make sure that it is connected and working. Using 2-1-0 in the parts 
manual verify the entire return line from fuel regulater to tank.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757







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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 19:33:05 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Help! Idle problems - Micro switch - Loose wires!

The full throttle micro switch should be connected to the plug with the
green wire and black wire.  The other plug with a green with green strip and
a black wire should not be connected on a car with a manual transmission.
Tie this set of wires back so they will not interfere with the throttle
linkage.

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031

-----Original Message-----
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:dherv10_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:43 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Help! Idle problems - Microswitch - Loose wires!


Stian, When the engine is cold, the Lambda system for gas mixture is
on manual and sending 80/20 signal to the FV to run a certain
mixture. When things start to heat up, the the sensors start to back
off, then the 02 sensor takes over and sends the voltage to the
Lambda to adjust the air/gas mixture. If the air flow is not adjusted
correctly for the age of the 02 sensor or new 02, then the car is
( Seeking ). Meaning the 02/lambda is looking for the right mixture.
Thus your idle goes up and down. Adjust the air flow meter with a 3mm
long handle allen wrench. Just do a 1/4 turn either direction when
the engine is hot and see what happens. This should be done with a
exhaust analyzer for the correct setting, but the manual may get you
by.
As far as the two wires loose on top of the engine, more than likley
they are the wires fron the micro switch which turns the idle spped
motor on. Black is common normally goes to the center terminal and
black/green to the upper terminal.
With out more specific information, there are two many wires in the
relay compartment to speculiate on where it goes.
What Mike said about the coil is true. Coils do get weak and create
over time a higher resistance and should be replaced ever so often.As
I say on my web site: If you want a little pick me up, the coil can
do it.
John Hervey




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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 19:37:06 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Re: help! no power to fuse # 7

For a good reference on how to connect the hoses to the fuel distributor,
check http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/fuelhoses.htm .  This is a good
diagram that Nick Pitello posted.

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031

-----Original Message-----
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net [mailto:jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 7:25 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: help! no power to fuse # 7


Since you have found the source of your problem with the #7 fuse and
it is the result of someone's previous unprofessional repair we can
assume that you may have a similar situation in the fuel system. Take
nothing for granted. Hoses may or may not be connected or connected
correctly. Trace each hose to it's source and verify routing and
condition. This may be an old problem that was never corrected and the
car ran although not correctly. It is easy to mix up hoses on the fuel
distributer if you are not careful so start there. In diagnosing a
problem you have to assume many things. In your case it will be unwise
to take anything for granted now. There is a tee connection in the
return line, that is a good place to start tracing the return lines to
make sure that it is connected and working. Using 2-1-0 in the parts
manual verify the entire return line from fuel regulater to tank.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




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