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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 509
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:49 AM

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There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. No Juice: Thanks
From: "J Rowe" <>

2. RE: missing radio
From: "Selden, Wayne" <>

3. Re: ASI radio wiring

4. broken radiator support bracket bolts


6. Magazine telephone number
From: "Joe Thome" <>

7. Re: how to loosen fuel distributer screws

8. DeLoreans for sale/Spring Social
From: "Dan" <>

9. Re: Oil pan woes
From: "Payne" <>

10. Re: Searching
From: "David Swingle" <>

11. thoughts from a new owner

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:11:21 -0500
From: "J Rowe" <>
Subject: No Juice: Thanks

    To DMCJoe and all others who have helped me out with my no power problem.
I have decided to trade my beloved DeLorean for a nice '76 pacer..........That was a 
joke. Seriously now, my problem seems to have been fixed although I'm not totally
sure of how or why. I tried DMCjoes last suggestion about sticking a light meter into
the #7 fuse socket and I had no pwer to it. I was totally prepared to call him but I 
wanted to try his other idea about putting the jumper cable onto the negative ground
and then to the engine block. As soon as I put the cable onto the negative ground
everything lit up, that is without the other end of the cable being attached to anything.
I couldn't get the cable attached to the negative cable inside the engine compartment 
so I tackled it from underneath and put it on the threads of the bolt. After I disconnected
the jumper cable everything stayed on. I went ahead and pulled the bolt out and cleaned
the frame up even more with engine cleaner and put a brand new bolt in. So far so good.
Does it sound like a coincidence and maybe an intermittent problem or do you think it will
last? I'm not sure how well my faith is restored in this fix yet. Anyway, thanks to all that 
helped me out. I do appreciate it. Now if I could just keep my SVX from dying at idle.

                                Thanks again....................Jason

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:12:11 -0500
From: "Selden, Wayne" <>
Subject: RE: missing radio

David, I replaced mine with a newer radio and would sell it if you are
interested. I had less than 10,000 miles on my DeLorean when I replaced it.
Perfect condition. Email me separately if your interested.

Wayne R. Selden

-----Original Message-----
From: David Silek []

I discovered over Easter Break when I went home that someone helped
themselves to my OLD (read original) radio in my D.  Any suggestions for a

David Silek


Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:20:34 -0000
Subject: Re: ASI radio wiring

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., theshovel1224_at_dml_y... wrote:
> Can anybody tell me which of the common wires on the ASI radio
> go to which speakers?  I know the white/brown & white/red go to
> the right speakers but which one goes to the front & which goes to
> the back?  Same question for the white/green & white/orange
> common left wires.  One final question: are the common wires
> positive or negative?
> John Yeoman

Not 5 minutes after I posted this message I realized that the
white/red and red wires would go to the front right speaker, the
white/brown and brown wires would go to the rear right speaker, the
white/orange and orange wires would go to the front left speaker, and
the white/green and green wires would go to the rear left speaker,
because the colors match up.  So all I really need to know is the
polarity of these wires.
Are the white wires negative and the solid color wires positive?
Or are the white wires positive and the solid color wires negative?

John Yeoman


Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:28:05 EDT
Subject: broken radiator support bracket bolts

hey guys,

how nice.  today i was going to remove my driver's side cooling fan for 
service.  i tried to remove the bolts that hold those L-brackets which 
support the raditator, but the ones that go on the radiator BOTH broke off!  
i used a ratchet and i twisted the heads off of both of them.  the four bolts 
holding the sway bar, however, came out great.  the radiator is not in any 
danger - i didn't try to take the other bolts off in fear of breaking them 
too and not being able to keep the radiator up.  

now what am i going to do?

1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:37:05 -0000

I think the guy knows a lot more about Deloreans than he says.  He 
knows enought to price the drivers side fender(which has a dent) $200 
more than the perfect condition passenger side.  
I doubt the Delorean was stolen from someone who used it, or cared 
for it.  Going by the pics it looks like the car was in a barn and 
some things fell on it (hense the dents and all the grime).
WHo knows, maybe the guy will speak up.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., senatorpack_at_dml_c... wrote:
> How do you know that the parts are not from a stolen car?
> Why does he need to sell so quickly?


Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:04:22 -0700
From: "Joe Thome" <>
Subject: Magazine telephone number

A recent posting mentioned that "Thoroughred & Clasic Cars" magazine had an article about the DeLorean car in it's Spring 2001 issue. Does anyone have a telephone number for this magzine so I can order a copy of this issue. I can't get it locally.

Many thanks

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:37:46 -0000
Subject: Re: how to loosen fuel distributer screws

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., jtrealty_at_dml_w... wrote:
> One of the best methods I have tried is to heat the head of the 
> cherry red and let it cool. Do it several times, let it cool and 
> try to remove.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757

Don't even attempt this on the fuel distributor unless you really 
want to buy a new one.

When I removed my fuel distributor it was really hard to do and I was 
able to loosen the srews by placing a screw driver (same size of the 
screw) into the head of the screw and gave it a couple of quick hard 
shots to it with a hammer. Loosened them enough that I was able to 
break them free by hand and not damage anything.

You can try an air impact gun to loosen them or better yet (cheaper 
and safer) buy yourself an impact screw driver. Works with a hammer 
and is the same principle of an air impact gun...just follow the 
instructions on how to use it. It's the best tool to have in your 
tool box so you won't be throwing money away on a single use, it will 
loosen just about any stuck screw (phillips or flat head). They 
usually run from $20.00 and up (the impact screw driver that is)

Steve Rubano


Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:46:47 -0000
From: "Dan" <>
Subject: DeLoreans for sale/Spring Social

There will be at least one, if not two, DeLoreans for sale at the 
Spring Social this saturday here in NJ. I worked on one of them this 
weekend. I put in a new slave cylinder, steel braided clutch line, 
and a clutch master cylinder in for the owner. It's gonna need some 
work because it's been sitting for a while, but it looks really nice. 
It will be driven to the social, so I guess it is drivable. It's an 
82 or 83 with grey interior, and is a 5 speed. If someone is looking 
for a good deal on a fixer-upper, you might want to come and check 
this one out. 

For club members who plan on attending: please remember that if you 
want your car looked at and/or worked on by Rob Grady, it'll be on a 
first come first serve basis. The event starts at 11am. There will be 
a sign up sheet for inspections and minor repairs, and another sheet 
for just door adjustments. Dave Teitelbaum will be bringing his door 
adjustment tools to help out with the adjustments people need. If 
you're not a member, you can sign up that day and you will be able to 
have your car looked over, and if needed, worked on by Rob. 
Membership into the Mid-Atlantic club costs only $15. 

On another note, new owner Kevin Abato was nice enough to ask one of 
his friends to DJ the event. So, we'll have some cool tunes while 
playing with our cars. Good job Kevin! There will be food and 
refreshments available that day as well.

See ya on saturday...


Directions to the social:


Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:00:04 -0700
From: "Payne" <>
Subject: Re: Oil pan woes

The leak seems like it's coming from the oil pan, concentrated on the side
facing the front of the car.  Like I said, it's not leaving anything behind
on the ground, but looks like fresh oil all around the edge of the pan.
Plus, the seal on the transmission case looks wet like it may be leaking
too.  Next time I can get it on a lift at work I'll clean the underside and
check anywhere else it could come from.  Has anyone done the oil pan gasket
themselves?  I would imagine I should leave it up to a professional though.

Thanks for your help, I'm always open to anyone's suggestions.  This car's
still the best thing I've ever spent money on!



Message: 10
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:43:15 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <>
Subject: Re: Searching

Well, this is a first - replying to my own post. Take a look at I was able to add an embedded 
Google search utility - it works GREAT. 

Now all I gotta do is finish updating the archive. . . one thing at a time. .

Dave Swingle

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> There has been some discussion recently about the difficulty of 
> our now-huge DMCNEWS archive and tech section. The current search 
engine is
> I'll add a link to this on the DMCNews backissues and tech sections 
> Dave Swingle


Message: 11
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:39:02 -0000
Subject: thoughts from a new owner

Please indulge me for a second...


(Sorry for shouting, but I've been waiting 15 years to say that and 
this is the closest thing to "the rooftops" that I could find!)

I flew to Cleveland this past Saturday and purchased VIN 6681 from 
its original owner (who only put 5,000 miles on it, bless her heart). 
Huge thanks go to Marty Maier and Mike Substelny for all their time 
and wonderful advice!

I've only owned my D for a few days, so I'm as far from being an 
expert as one can get. Still, I feel I've learned a lot recently and 
would like to offer some advice to those still waiting to live the 
dream (since I was in the same boat just one week ago!).

First, I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't made some 
connections with folks in the D community. Since I live in a small 
town in rural Illinois, I always presumed if I bought a DeLorean I'd 
be all alone with no support network nearby. Well, not only did I 
discover somebody a stone's throw away who owns two D's, but there's 
even an entire club in my area! You might not be as fortunate, 
depending on where you live, but I'd wager there's somebody out there 
(probably on the DML, by the way) who would be willing to show you 
their car and share some knowledge.

Also, don't let the opinions of others make you feel discouraged. The 
majority of my peers who knew I was going to buy a DeLorean thought I 
was nuts. They perceived the car as an odd relic from a cheesy era of 
excess -- quaint, but lame. If I had "that kind of money" to spend, 
by their rationale, why not buy a "real sports car" with it? That 
type of attitude wasn't too surprising to me, but what I hadn't 
anticipated was that people's reactions to the *idea* of a DeLorean 
are generally very different from their reactions to a *real* 
DeLorean. Folks at work who had been making jokes about Miami Vice 
and parachute pants last week were huddled around photos of my car 
and begging me to drive the thing to work yesterday. Within the first 
hour and a half of ownership, I had one guy request a photo with my 
car, a few people drive up to get a closer look, two carloads of 
people shouting in approval ("Woo! DeLorean!" and "Back to the 
Future!"), and more passing rubberneckers than I could count. In just 
the first ninety minutes! I hope I never get complacent about that 
and forget how fortunate I am to own such an amazing automobile.

Todd Masinelli
VIN 6681


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