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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 517
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 5:27 AM

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There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. re: non-mechanic question
From: "H. Julian Wainthrop, IV" <>

2. Re: fuel baffle, inserting

3. Lower ball joint

4. door dings caused by window regulator
From: "Walter" <>

5. parking brake problems

6. Re: Still need DMCTech?
From: "Walter" <>

7. I need more updates for the DeLorean Owners Directory..
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <>

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:52:56 -0700
From: "H. Julian Wainthrop, IV" <>
Subject: re: non-mechanic question


As a non-mechanic who has been reading this list for a while, and also
studying the manuals intensely in preparation for owning my own D (which
has been postponed due to the rear-ending of my current vehicle by some
Toyota monstrosity driven by a five-foot-nothing blonde with a cell
phone and a rich daddy), I can say that the DeLorean certainly looks
like a very easy, straightforward car to work on. The only thing you may
come across is not having the proper tools for something (air-tools come
to mind), in which case you can borrow from somebody (and let them watch
you work on your "living legend"), or you can take it to a foreign car
specialist.  DeLoreans are great cars. There's a reason they're still on
the road twenty years after they were built. And I don't mean like the
"rebuilt" machines out there, either. Plus, hey, it's a DeLorean! How
cool can you get? ;)

So my advice to you is: Buy it! You will never regret it. :)

Farrar Hudkins
New Orleans, Louisiana


Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:36:45 -0000
Subject: Re: fuel baffle, inserting

It is possible to slip the fuel baffle in while assembled.

Step 17 will tell you everything you need to know.

vin 6585

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., deloreanernst_at_dml_a... wrote:
> In a message dated 4/23/01 1:31:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> writes:
> << In order to fit it through the fuel pump hole, I had to pass the 
> through separately; although, I have heard of some magicians fitting 
> through the hole pre-assembled.


Message: 3
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:45:30 -0000
Subject: Lower ball joint

Hi list,

Just wondered how hard a job it is to replace the lower ball joint on 
the d drivers side?
Anyone done one?

Cheers Paul Heymeson vin741UK.


Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:41:06 -0400
From: "Walter" <>
Subject: door dings caused by window regulator

I have noticed the same dents in every DeLorean car door that I have looked
for them including both the passenger and driver's doors.  These dents on
every car are located approximately in the center of the door just below the
molding.  On some cars it is much more noticeable than others, but I have
noticed them on perhaps more than a half dozen cars so far.  The dents
protrude outwards and appear to be coming from the tubes of the window
regulators hitting the inside of the door as they over-torque at the end of
their travel.

My car is no exception.  I have rather noticeable dents on both doors.  I am
suspicious that it is the OEM window regulator that is at fault and not the
heavy duty replacements sold by the vendors.  My driver's door still has the
OEM window regulator, and the passenger door regulator was already replaced
before I got the car.  Since I have owned the car for over a year now, the
dents in the drivers door has gotten worse!  Yet the passenger door does not
appear any worse.

The driver's side window gets more use (since I actually do use it for a
toll booth window and to have security gates scan a bar code which I refuse
to stick on my car.  I don't recommend throwing change through that little
window, though.  The last time I tried it, both quarters missed the basket.
I had to get out to fetch them.  The funny thing though, I was so close to
the basket that my door wouldn't clear it.  I couldn't pull much forward
since the gate was closed, and I had trouble backing up since the guy behind
me was already up my a...  But I did make out like a bandit once I got out
and started picking up quarters that everyone else lost.)  Okay I get side
tracked too easily....

So I suggest to everyone who wants to keep their pristine doors dent free to
not use the OEM window regulators anymore.  Or if you do, be very careful to
not run the windows all the way up or all the way down without taking your
finger off the button immediately.  I hear that the OEM regulators do not
stop automatically, and this is partially the cause of why they tend to
prematurely self-destruct.

Before anyone accepts this as the gospel truth, lets have some input from
the other DML'ers.

I have yet to take my driver's door apart, but by peeping in through the
front door light it looks like I have an OEM window regulator in there.  DMC
Joe showed me how to pull the light out and look inside, and he said that it
looks like an original.  My passenger door definitely already has the heavy
duty regulator, but it went bad shortly after I bought the car.  It filled
up with water because no one removed the drain plug when they installed it.
(Read more about this in the archives.)

Walt    Tampa, FL


Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:56:57 EDT
Subject: parking brake problems

Hey guys,

ever since i took ownership of my DeLorean, the parking brake has never 
worked.  the previous owner said that it was always catching on one of the 
wheels and since he only drove his a few times (it was not a daily driver) he 
just disconnected the lines at the handle.

well i want a parking brake!  it's really crappy driving a manual 
transmission without a parking brake.  so today i decided to have a look.  i 
connected the cables again at the release handle (which was a 2 hour job by 
itself), and i removed both rear wheels.  yes, the cable is not disengaging 
on the passenger side.  what is actually happening is that it is catching and 
hanging up somewhere back there.  i lifted the handle again and the passenger 
side cable fell out of the mechanism. dang it!!!!  but that just goes to show 
that the passenger side cable or caliper is hanging up.  the driver's side 
seems to work just fine.

if you push the parking brake caliper apart, as in, push the inside half 
towards the car, you can feel it grinding.  i lubed up the hinge really good 
and moved it around a bit, but i think the grinding is coming from the cable 
itself or one of the pieces it passes through.  

finally, should the rear wheels be very hard to turn?  i don't have the tires 
on, but there is noticeable resistance when i turn the discs.  should they be 
totally free moving, or should it be somewhat tough to turn?  the car is in 

thanks to all the brake gurus out there

1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:05:17 -0400
From: "Walter" <>
Subject: Re: Still need DMCTech?


I'm behind you 100% in supporting the DMCTech site.  I'm just too busy with
other things to do a decent job at anything.  You are welcome to copy or
whatever anything I post to the DML to use in the DMCTech site.  You are
also welcome to clean up and modify/correct as needed.

I would like to see a web site organized like a tech manual.  I suppose that
is what you are in the process of setting up.  I haven't looked at the
DMCTech site yet.... sorry.  Right now I'm not even staying caught up with
the DML.

My suggestion is to collect a couple of articles from the smarter guys and
then have a good technical guy go through and compile it all into one
complete article.  Do this for every part or system in the car, and you will
have a complete new tech manual!

Walt    Tampa, FL


Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:37:42 -0700
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <>
Subject: I need more updates for the DeLorean Owners Directory..

It's time to come out with an update to the DeLorean Owners Directory. If
you've NOT put you and your car into the Directory, now is the time. I want
to have a new edition available well in advance of the Belfast Expo. 

So I'm setting a deadline of Saturday, May 5, 2001 as the cutoff
for new updated entries for the next issue. Any entries beyond that will be
saved for the next edition in the fall. To add your car to the Directory, go

And while I've got your attention, I want to remind you of the Fall West
Coast DeLorean Show on September 20-23. Plans are coming along well and
it'll be a great time for everyone. See my club website for details
( . We should have registrations available somewhere
around the time of the Belfast Expo.


Ken Montgomery	Sacramento, CA  VIN #10911  'OUTTIME'
President, Northern California DeLorean Motor Club
Keeper of the International DeLorean Owners Directory


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