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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 527
Date: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:08 AM

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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Current-rating brakelight-switch

2. Re: Twin turbos
From: "DMC Joe" <>

3. Steering wheel aftermarket
From: "Flash66" <>

4. Re: DeLorean Canada
From: François Laplante <>

5. RE: Front End Recall Kit
From: "Marc A. Levy" <>

6. Re: Shipping a car from the US?

7. Re: Oil filter
From: "DMC Joe" <>

8. DeLorean in Thoroughbreed & classic sports car magazine

9. First Right hand drive DeLorean

10. Re: Electrical Glitch; loose connection?

11. Re: speed and hood question

12. Re: Wide Black Sidestripes
From: "Sal celeste" <>

13. Re: Water Pump and A/C Idler bearings

14. Journey Into Darkness Book

15. Re: Electrical Glitch, is this bad??? (quite long)

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:45:26 -0000
Subject: Re: Current-rating brakelight-switch

Jan, Brake light switches look like about $9.00 ea on DMC Houston 
site for cost. But for safety and reliability, double the current 
with the reputation of some of the other switches and relays.I would 
hook up the 40 amp relay and Never have to worry about it again.
John Hervey

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Jan_at_dml_v... wrote:
> Hello again,
> It seems my troubles from last evening were really a glitch;
> Jan van de Wouw
> Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
> Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...
> #05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000
> Check out the DeLorean-Files at:
> --------------------------------


Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:51:52 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <>
Subject: Re: Twin turbos

Turbo Manifold Co. does not have a web site, they can be reached at 800 449-1248.


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:55 PM
  Subject: [DML] Twin turbos

  Does anyone have a web address for turbo manifold co. ?

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 03:02:43 -0400
From: "Flash66" <>
Subject: Steering wheel aftermarket

Has anyone on the list installed an after market steering wheel in their De
If so which hub did you use? I am wanting to replace my old worn one with a

Thanks in advance,
-Paul #16811


Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:41:12 -0400
From: François Laplante <>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Canada

Good morning Kevin,

My name is François Laplante and I live near Hudson Qué. I own VIN 17145
since 1995 and there is 97000 kms on the odometer. The car could be one of a
few aimed at canadian market; it is equipped with a 240 kms speedometer and
seems to have been fitted with a muffler system different then the one I see
in the manual. The car is in perfect working order and is used regularly as
second car.

I do not have a scanner to send you a picture...

If you need other informations, feel free to ask it!



Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:35:31 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <>
Subject: RE: Front End Recall Kit

*****  Moderator's Note  ********
There are two front-end recalls - one for ball joints and
one for the roll bar/crumple tube strengthening.  The ball 
joint recall is the more serious of the two.

This is a very important recall.  I suggest you not drive the car until
it is installed.

If you hit a significant bump in the road, you can damage your frame.

-----Original Message-----
From: []
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: [DML] Front End Recall Kit

I have just looked at the web page and have realised 
that I don't have the front end recall kit. 
What does the recall kit do and it it highly important?. also is it 
expensive or hard to fit?


Message: 6
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:22:32 +0800
Subject: Re: Shipping a car from the US?

Hi Martin,

So have you found a car yet? If its in California I can recommend a shipping
firm that got my DeLorean to London from CA at Christmas, 1999. It cost me

I'm in LosAngeles at the minute and see a couple in the papers here.
1. '81 DeLorean : Ad in LA Times 'restored and ready to go' $19,900 firm
Tel. (818) 563-4919
2. Grey interior, automatic, asking $14,xxx (will send their email/tel
separately). This was in Cal.AutoTrader.
3. My cousin saw one at Pomona SwapMeet. Said it was 100% spotless but
asking $21,000. The cleanest one he had seen. Had 18k miles. Didn't get
details but may be at the next show.

I presume you will be at Eurofest, see you there.

Cheers,     IAN (FOSTER)

> Hi All,
> I have been researching shipping a potential purchase from the US
> back
> to the UK, and came across this mightily useful page. Basically a
> list
> of car shipping companies who'll ship internationally from anywhere
> in
> the US. Many have on-line quoting services.
> I'll let you know how I get on...
> Martin
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 05:48:52 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <>
Subject: Re: Oil filter


Although I have experimented with various oil filters for research purposes, the Purflux has filtered most of the oil running through my PRV.


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lynn Metz 
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:38 PM
  Subject: [DML] Oil filter

  Ok, All I want to know is what filter does DMC Joe use on his 260k-plus 
  DeLorean???  If I get 260k out of my car, I will be happy.  JOE???

  Brian 16584

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:23:49 EDT
Subject: DeLorean in Thoroughbreed & classic sports car magazine

    This months Thoroughbred & classic sports car (Porsche Speedster 1600 on 
cover) magazine features the Original DMC Renault Alpine test mule. The small 
article has some interesting facts about the car. 
    The owner Mark Smyth of London, said that Mrs. DeLorean drove this car as 
her personal vehicle. 
    In addition, the article mentions the PRV-V6 engine that 
Lotus/DMC/Renault modified with high performance components.

    (The article states that the initial DMC had 5 Alpine. There were 6 
Renault Alpine, all silver with red leather interior.)

Mike Pack
VIN 3713
DOA 4743


Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:26:45 EDT
Subject: First Right hand drive DeLorean

    This is something for our UK members to clarify.

    There is a DeLorean for sale in London classic car dealership. The car 
dealer claims that the car was the first RHD DeLorean car converted. The car 
is also advertised in Practical Classics UK edition.

Mike Pack
DOA 4743
VIN 3713


Message: 10
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 08:53:12 -0000
Subject: Re: Electrical Glitch; loose connection?


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., shirazcupala_at_dml_h... wrote:
> I had a similar type problem with the alarm going off randomly like 
> that or the whole car just shutting down completely either while 
> parked or in the middle of driving. Then working just fine at other 
> points. 

I thought this was the first time this happened, but I now recollect 
ONE instance on which something similar happened, but that was over 6 
months ago!

> My mechanic traced it to a VERY loose battery connection 
> behind the panel directly below the rear window. You have to remove 
> that carpeted piece to check it. He said it was very loose. 

I know what area you mean, probably best to check this before I take
out for the clubmeeting next sunday. Is it really a battery
or a bunch of wires you mean? Ah well, I'll just see: I've had the
wall out several times before (to mount speakers in it and a
and fire extinguisher on it) so I've gotten real handy in removing it.

> Tightening that up fixed all my electrical problems.  I 
> just wish I had found it myself because it cost a bundle to have my 
> mechanic find just a loose connection and tighten it up.  I now
> learned from some PNDC club members that this is a common loose 
> connection on DeLoreans.

I had never heard of this before, but I'm going to check for sure.
My front grounding point is OK; I cheked this while I was in there 
replacing my horns and lubing the Angle Drive...
Or maybe I've knocked somethin loose being in there? Another thing to 
put on the "before sunday list"  ;-)

Thanks to everyone who's responded so far, 
I'll let you know when I find my culprit,

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:28:09 -0000
Subject: Re: speed and hood question

     I recently used the old stopwatch on my car and got a 0-60 time 
of 7.8 seconds. Now keep in mind that its not precise, since it was a 
stopwatch and there is the human error factor. Plus I am super 
lightweight at 115 pounds, so I can make any car get a decent 0-60 
time. I think 8 to 9 seconds is reasonable for any stock DeLorean.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Kurt Cenin" <markurbec_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> I have read alot of stuff concerning the acceleration of DeLoreans. 
I have heard everything from 8 seconds to 4.5 seconds (0-60).  Which 
is it?
> Also, what Deloreans were made with the hoods with the grooves?
> Thanks 
> Dan
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Message: 12
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:50:48 -0400
From: "Sal celeste" <>
Subject: Re: Wide Black Sidestripes

Come on , Marc. Wait and see. There are 3 new stripes kits being produced by
DMC in addition to the original standard wide sidestripe. I've seen the new
designs and they are very, very cool. (ala ITAL D) They dress up the D and
help eliminate the old line: "When you've seen one Delorean you've seen 'em
all!" Aren't you guys (gals) sick of looking at 20 of exactly the same car
at every show?


Message: 13
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:17:04 -0000
Subject: Re: Water Pump and A/C Idler bearings

While you are at it don't forget to repack the Flux Capaciter with 
silicone grease!

That "oil hole" is there so if the seal on the water pump leaks the 
coolant doesn't flow through the bearings. The bearings are "lifetime 
lubricated ie: they never need maintainence until they die. On many 
antique cars they had a grease cup that you would give a twist to once 
in a while. They stopped doing that in the early '50's. Generally the 
seal will wear out before the bearings so no lube is required. You do 
however need to change the coolant once in a while to replace the 
additive package including the "water pump lubricant" which is for the 
seal, not the bearings.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Arnie Brandon" <Arnie_at_dml_P...> wrote:
> Walt, your are just kidding us re oiling that little hole in the 
water pump,
> right?  If you are not kidding, you are totally WROMG.
> Arnie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter [mailto:Whalt_at_dml_a...]
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:11 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_y...
> Subject: Re: [DML] Water Pump and A/C Idler bearings
> Jim,
> I didn't use any sealant on the large o-ring gasket (the one that 
falls out
> when you take the bracket loose that holds the idler bearings.)  
Since the
> gasket and whole area were dry (no oil residues) I figure that the 
gasket is
> only to stop dust from getting in there.


Message: 14
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:54:02 -0000
Subject: Journey Into Darkness Book

Group, I contacted the author of the Journey Into Darkness book and 
now have autographed copies. The book is classified as out of print. 
No mark up, $10.99 + postage. It's on the front page of the web site.
John Hervey 


Message: 15
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:49:44 -0000
Subject: Re: Electrical Glitch, is this bad??? (quite long)

Jan, If I was going to use light bulbs instead of LED's or some other 
solid state lighting, I would use another relay and wire. Double the 
current draw on a switch may be a little to much, especially if your 
on the brake longer than you want to be some time.
John Hervey

 --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Jan van de Wouw <Jan_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> Since my daily driver (an old Ford Escort) has a fuel leak I 
decided to take my
> DeLorean to the movies this evening, everything went fine untill I 
got halfway
> back home...
> I had to use my High beams to signal someone from the opposit 
direction, as I
> did this, my Radio cut off, the Tach mad a full 360 spin and the 
> heldback, followed immediately by a backfire (logical I guess, 
probably no spark...).
> As I didn't trust this I tried the Highs several times more and it 
did exactly
> the same, voltage dropped to about 8 Volt, then rose back to 11, at 
this point
> the radio came back on and the high beams stayed on as they should, 
> the switch only made the voltage go back up to 13, signalling made 
it drop again...
> When I was at home I parked my car and tried it again several 
times, both at
> idle as well as with some throttle (about 1500rpm, couldn't revv 
too much: it
> was 23.30h allready) stayed the same, so I'd thought I'd check 
tomorrow. Put out
> the lights, released the throttle and turned the ignition off.
> This made hell brake loose... Well actually just my alarmsystem 
going off, but a
> 120dB siren in between houses makes a lot of noise! I finally got 
the alarm to
> shut up (I HATE emergency-powered sirens), drove out of town -so I 
wouldn't get
> into a fight with the neigbourhood- and tried all again.
> NOTHING!!! Everything worked as it should, alarm, locks, tach, 
lights, EVERYTHING...
> I'm totally at a loss what this could be of could have been. I know 
(I've read
> the manual) the alarm probably went off because of the voltage-
drop: this is a
> tamper-protection in case anyone tries to disconnect the battery or 
siren. I did
> not see the BATT-light come on (light is in working order) and I DO 
have power
> from the alternator: my voltages rises and drops with the RPMs.
> The battery has power since even with the siren going off the 
remote on the
> alarm still worked and I was able to start right away (when trying 
to get away
> from an angry neigbour (he's an ^&%$^#%# anyway, so I don't really 
care about
> him, but even more what he might do to my car)).
> Turning the ignition to I made the alarm shut up (the way it is 
supposed to
> according to the manual).
> So, what do I know?
> - the car seems OK, since everything works now.
> - my alarmsystem works the way it is supposed to.
> - the battery connections are in place and firmly seated
> - I HATE the sound of my siren and makes my ears hurt    ;-)
> - The tach can spin over 360 degrees without breaking...
> - there is SOMETHING WRONG, but I don't know what or why!!!
> This last one is my trouble; does anyone have any idea what could 
have or can
> cause this?
> I really need to know this: I didn't dare put on the alarm after 
the argue I had
> with the guy from across the street, so I put a surveilance cam on 
it, but
> that's not an ideal situation...
> Please help, where should I check first?
> Thanks in advance, hope I can get some sleep after this.
> JAN van de Wouw
> Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
> Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...
> #05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000
> check out the Delorean-Files at:
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posting an
> answer to the list. Let's make life a little easier for the 
moderators  ;-)


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